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* Jihad to be taught in Pakistani schools - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a8672a927cf6e806
* Millions meant for Muslims unspent - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e402ebc2ed2a67fc
* Mushroom Cloud over Las Vegas: US Plans Test - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/616491651d306f4c
* Muslim cleric held over Varanasi blasts - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c7da75b260e7e841
* SUSAN E COHEN'S ADDRESS AND TELEPHONE NUMBER ONE MORE TIME - 1 messages, 1
author
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* HOW TO REPORT ABUSE ON THE NET - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* We're FRICKED, peoplez !!!!!!!! - 2 messages, 1 author
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* Wetbacks wise to the Jew. - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Study: You're Wasting Your Time Praying! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* "PKK's 'mountain Kurds' declare independence" - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* DESERTER SPEAKS OF U.S. ATROCITIES IN IRAQ - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Is Socialism Good in Theory? - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Jihad to be taught in Pakistani schools
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a8672a927cf6e806
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 11:08 pm
From: hi@anony (habshi)
No wonder funds for 9/11 came from there and it supplies most
of the worlds terrorists.
excerpt asianage.com
Islamabad, March 29: While aiming to provide quality education, the
new education policy to be implemented in Pakistan next year will
retain the subject of jihad in the school curriculum, a senior
minister has said.
The government was using all available resources to promote quality
education and had started working on the education reforms, education
minister Javed Ashraf Qazi told reporters.
He said the subject of human rights would be included in the syllabus
and the government had no plan to omit the subject of jihad from the
Islamiat (moral studies).
"We will teach Islamiat from class one to twelve," Pakistan
...
All religions other than Islam are heresy and error. Any place
designated for worship other than [that of] Islam is a place of heresy
and error, for it is forbidden to worship Allah in any way other than
the way that Allah has prescribed in Islam. The law of Islam (shari'a)
is the final and definitive religious law. It applies to all men and
jinns and abrogates all that came before it. This is a matter about
which there is consensus.
"Those who claim that there is truth in what the Jews say, or in what
the Christians say - whether he is one of them or not - is denying the
Koran and the Prophet Muhammad's sunna and the consensus of the Muslim
nation
Allah said: 'The only reason I sent you was to bring good
tidings and warnings to all [Koran 34:28]'; 'Oh people, I am Allah's
Messenger to you all [Koran 7:158]'; 'Allah's religion is Islam
[3:19]'; 'Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it shall not be
accepted from him [3:85]'; 'The unbelievers from among the people of
the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] and the polytheists are in
hellfire and will be [there] forever. They are the worst of all
creation
[98:6].'
"Therefore, religion necessitates the prohibition of unbelief,
...
Japan Economic Newswire Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge)ISLAMABAD, March
31_(Kyodo) _ Baluchi militants blew away power pylons and four big
transmission towers Friday morning, cutting off supply of electricity
to nearly 70 percent of the southwestern province Baluchistan,
officials in the provincial capital Quetta said.
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TOPIC: Millions meant for Muslims unspent
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e402ebc2ed2a67fc
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 11:08 pm
From: hi@anony (habshi)
Who is giving tax payers money to fund religious groups?
excerpt asianage.com
UP Muslims deprived of loan benefits
- By Amita Verma
Lucknow, March 31: For the Mulayam Singh government, which prides
itself on its pro-minority stand, this could be a major embarrassment.
The Samajwadi government, in the past two years, seems to have
completely forgotten to utilise the money meant for Muslim welfare.
Nearly Rs 70 crores provided by the Centre to disburse loans for
education and employment to Muslims living below the poverty line has
remained unutilised during the past two years and the state government
has no explanation for this lapse.
"The National Minorities Development and Finance Corporation (NMDFC
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TOPIC: Mushroom Cloud over Las Vegas: US Plans Test
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/616491651d306f4c
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 6:15 pm
From: "Jack O'Neill"
"Four-Way Windowpane" <sheet@blotter.org> wrote in message
news:TriXf.62333$Jd.28935@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> Jack O'Neill wrote...watch for it...
>>>The other part of the project is the penetrator technology, whatever
>>>technology is necessary to penetrate a nuclear warhead deep into the
>>>earth. All you need to know is how deep a 10-ton micronuke needs to
>>>go to crack the bunker, and that's what this test is for.
>>
THIS PART:
"This ought to be fun.Where did you get this , erm,
"idea"?You do not speak
>> the tech
>> yet you know what this test is for."
>
> I just asked on alt.war.nuclear, surely someone there would know.
Oh, surely.And if they knew, gladly shared.
> And remember that huge explosion in North Korea a year or two ago?
> Everyone began speculating they had conducted a nuclear test,
> while DPRK said it was a construction project.
>
.......
> What do think the test is for?
Minitiarizing conventional warheads to destroy deep bunkers
without having to go nuclear-just like they fuckin said.
This one I believe because of the reports of the effectiveness of ground
penetration in Iraq-every material has a "brittle" point, where a detonation
at the exact right speed will cause destruction that a warhead 100 times
bigger
wouldn't cause.Its the same thing in making bombs, any kind.The detonators
for different explosives have differences in the thousands of
feet-per-second
cascades that detonate the primary explosive.
>I'm sure a 700-ton conventional
> could probably crack an underground bunker, but unless the U.S.
> is planning on dropping 700-ton bombs on targets it seems that
> this test has no purpose.
You just got the right answer, and then threw it out.
The test is to get that 700 tonnes into a much smaller package.
> I also don't see how a huge giant
> conventional bomb could generate data relevant to the explosion
> of a very small tactical nuke.
Oh well.
> Making up numbers, 1 megajoule
> of energy released by a 100 cubic meter conventional bomb would
> propagate differently than 1 megajoule released by a 1 cubic
> meter nuclear bomb. The released energy would be spread out
> over a much larger area, so the shock wave hitting the target
> would be much smaller.
See.You know the answer already, you just dont know it.You are right there.
Shock wave, propagation of forces, different strengths ....
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 11:38 pm
From: "SothernAhia"
The Bush Admiistration has shown some very calloused irresponsibility over
the years,but as far as detonating a subterrainian micro-nuke on its own
soil,especially on the lower 48,would be just plain insane.Although downward
blast force is the key issue at hand,how in the hell will the lateral blast
force be contained?One miscalculation and massive shockwaves could very
well reach the San Adreas fault.And with that,the nations west coast could
experience a series of quakes and tremors as a result.
Maybe the military needs to rethink their planning,and conduct these tests
near the bordertowns of New mexico or Texas.
"Jack O'Neill" <J'ONeill@SGC.gov> wrote in message
news:5omdnYCt7odlKrDZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
> "Four-Way Windowpane" <sheet@blotter.org> wrote in message
> news:TriXf.62333$Jd.28935@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> Jack O'Neill wrote...watch for it...
>>>>The other part of the project is the penetrator technology, whatever
>>>>technology is necessary to penetrate a nuclear warhead deep into the
>>>>earth. All you need to know is how deep a 10-ton micronuke needs to
>>>>go to crack the bunker, and that's what this test is for.
>>>
>
> THIS PART:
> "This ought to be fun.Where did you get this , erm,
> "idea"?You do not speak
>>> the tech
>>> yet you know what this test is for."
>>
>> I just asked on alt.war.nuclear, surely someone there would know.
> Oh, surely.And if they knew, gladly shared.
>
>> And remember that huge explosion in North Korea a year or two ago?
>> Everyone began speculating they had conducted a nuclear test,
>> while DPRK said it was a construction project.
>>
>
> .......
>
>
>> What do think the test is for?
>
> Minitiarizing conventional warheads to destroy deep bunkers
> without having to go nuclear-just like they fuckin said.
> This one I believe because of the reports of the effectiveness of ground
> penetration in Iraq-every material has a "brittle" point, where a
> detonation
> at the exact right speed will cause destruction that a warhead 100 times
> bigger
> wouldn't cause.Its the same thing in making bombs, any kind.The detonators
> for different explosives have differences in the thousands of
> feet-per-second
> cascades that detonate the primary explosive.
>
>
>
>
>>I'm sure a 700-ton conventional
>> could probably crack an underground bunker, but unless the U.S.
>> is planning on dropping 700-ton bombs on targets it seems that
>> this test has no purpose.
>
> You just got the right answer, and then threw it out.
> The test is to get that 700 tonnes into a much smaller package.
>
>
>> I also don't see how a huge giant
>> conventional bomb could generate data relevant to the explosion
>> of a very small tactical nuke.
>
> Oh well.
>
>> Making up numbers, 1 megajoule
>> of energy released by a 100 cubic meter conventional bomb would
>> propagate differently than 1 megajoule released by a 1 cubic
>> meter nuclear bomb. The released energy would be spread out
>> over a much larger area, so the shock wave hitting the target
>> would be much smaller.
>
> See.You know the answer already, you just dont know it.You are right
> there.
> Shock wave, propagation of forces, different strengths ....
>
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 6:59 pm
From: "Jack O'Neill"
"SothernAhia" <suthernahia@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:04jXf.73970$UZ5.70194@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> The Bush Admiistration has shown some very calloused irresponsibility over
> the years,but as far as detonating a subterrainian micro-nuke
cite?I have stayed away from news services as much as possible.
> on its own soil,especially on the lower 48,would be just plain
> insane.Although downward blast force is the key issue at hand,how in the
> hell will the lateral blast force be contained?One miscalculation and
> massive shockwaves could very well reach the San Adreas fault.And with
> that,the nations west coast could experience a series of quakes and
> tremors as a result.
yes.
> Maybe the military needs to rethink their planning,and conduct these tests
> near the bordertowns of New mexico or Texas.
> "Jack O'Neill" <J'ONeill@SGC.gov> wrote in message
> news:5omdnYCt7odlKrDZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>
>> "Four-Way Windowpane" <sheet@blotter.org> wrote in message
>> news:TriXf.62333$Jd.28935@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Jack O'Neill wrote...watch for it...
>>>>>The other part of the project is the penetrator technology, whatever
>>>>>technology is necessary to penetrate a nuclear warhead deep into the
>>>>>earth. All you need to know is how deep a 10-ton micronuke needs to
>>>>>go to crack the bunker, and that's what this test is for.
>>>>
>>
>> THIS PART:
>> "This ought to be fun.Where did you get this , erm,
>> "idea"?You do not speak
>>>> the tech
>>>> yet you know what this test is for."
>>>
>>> I just asked on alt.war.nuclear, surely someone there would know.
>> Oh, surely.And if they knew, gladly shared.
>>
>>> And remember that huge explosion in North Korea a year or two ago?
>>> Everyone began speculating they had conducted a nuclear test,
>>> while DPRK said it was a construction project.
>>>
>>
>> .......
>>
>>
>>> What do think the test is for?
>>
>> Minitiarizing conventional warheads to destroy deep bunkers
>> without having to go nuclear-just like they fuckin said.
>> This one I believe because of the reports of the effectiveness of ground
>> penetration in Iraq-every material has a "brittle" point, where a
>> detonation
>> at the exact right speed will cause destruction that a warhead 100 times
>> bigger
>> wouldn't cause.Its the same thing in making bombs, any kind.The
>> detonators
>> for different explosives have differences in the thousands of
>> feet-per-second
>> cascades that detonate the primary explosive.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I'm sure a 700-ton conventional
>>> could probably crack an underground bunker, but unless the U.S.
>>> is planning on dropping 700-ton bombs on targets it seems that
>>> this test has no purpose.
>>
>> You just got the right answer, and then threw it out.
>> The test is to get that 700 tonnes into a much smaller package.
>>
>>
>>> I also don't see how a huge giant
>>> conventional bomb could generate data relevant to the explosion
>>> of a very small tactical nuke.
>>
>> Oh well.
>>
>>> Making up numbers, 1 megajoule
>>> of energy released by a 100 cubic meter conventional bomb would
>>> propagate differently than 1 megajoule released by a 1 cubic
>>> meter nuclear bomb. The released energy would be spread out
>>> over a much larger area, so the shock wave hitting the target
>>> would be much smaller.
>>
>> See.You know the answer already, you just dont know it.You are right
>> there.
>> Shock wave, propagation of forces, different strengths ....
>>
>
>
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TOPIC: Muslim cleric held over Varanasi blasts
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c7da75b260e7e841
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 11:21 pm
From: hi@anony (habshi)
There are thousands of madarasa schools which have come up on
India's borders even where there are few Muslims . its time the stupid
Hindu seculars woke up and decreed an Islamist free fifty mile zone.
asianage.com March 30
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TOPIC: SUSAN E COHEN'S ADDRESS AND TELEPHONE NUMBER ONE MORE TIME
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e108e36a3423c2d0
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 11:25 pm
From: Ken Lewis
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:10:16 GMT, <Ivxkf.7761$a%.4130@trnddc05> flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>On 3-Dec-2005, "Ted" <tdichtler@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> The Re'evd wrote:
>> > Suzy "convert" Cohen must have you killfiled, cunt.
>> > She *insists* that people are only posting "Alex's" business address!
>> OK, whatever.
>Actually, this is just another lie of the self-proclaimed cunt who
>calls himself "Rev" etc.
>I only said no one did this *when* no one *had* done this.
>He has since pretended that I said no one had done this *ever*.
>It was HIS pretending that he had found MY home address
>that nmade everyone post Seredin's - but
>I wish they had posted the phony rev's - all we have so far
>is Gordon Radavich
AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON YOU SUSAN E COHEN OF SILVER SPRING, MD
AS HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER PARTY
>> GARY A RUMAIN Born 1964
>> 8112 GROVE ST
>> SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>> SUSAN E COHEN Born Nov 1962
>> 8112 GROVE ST
>> SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>> zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)
>Thanks for showing yet again that you will trust anything you read,
>and that you will change your "mind" at the first sign of something
>different than the last thing you saw.
>Susan
You look very stupid in your denial of the facts Susan. You have been
successfully outed so live with it.
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:02:03 GMT, <%bTjf.9769$AB2.6571@trnddc08>
flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>And you wonder why you liars get called stupid.
I saw no lie. Where was the lie? For the fun or it I checked it out and it is
all true.
>http://www.zabasearch.com/
Using the above search I found the following also.
>GARY A RUMAIN Born 1964
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>
>SUSAN E COHEN Born Nov 1962
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
http://www.infospace.com/home/white-pages/reverse-phone
A reverse trace of the above telephone number shows:
Gary Rumain
8112 Grove St
Silver Spring, MD 20910-4758
Add to Outlook 301-565-9746
http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=46587777:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Rumain&QF=Gary&QC=Silver%20Spring&QS=MD&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
The above long link as a TinyURL:
http://tinyurl.com/a74xw
They even show a map of how to get to your house. Care to remain in denial
Susan E Cohen?
You made the post below did you not? You admitted Gary Rumain is your husband
did you not?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/5a65b7eefb1e7400
(Archived locally as: GaryAndSusan_1)
>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)
>Re: Bruneian Royal Harem: "Harem Scare 'Em?" Dateline NBC 9/23/97
>1997/10/05
><617cpg$p9a$14@news.smart.net>
>In alt.talk.royalty Yet Another Steve <Steve_Hoffman@SPAM-FWDED2POSTMASTERSqmail4.nba.trw.com> wrote:
>: In article <60snlk$hlc$9@news.smart.net>, zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain) wrote:
>: Okay, you've managed to confuse me now, too. You post under the name
>: "Gary Rumain" and sign your postings "Susan Cohen." Is this an instance
>: of someone "hiding his/her identity" as well?
>No. If I wanted to hide my identity, would I sign each & every post with
>my name? We haven't been able to change the post-name so it includes mine
>as well as my husband's. However, I was under the impression that this was
>a common enough occurence on Usenet.
>And, the "anonymity" to which I referred was the fact that, while mine is
>genuine, the original poster's was a false e-mail address. You can reach
>me at zenda@smart.net any time you feel like tyoing. There was no way to
>reach the original poster. I find that very suspicious, if only because
>it is a perennial practise of the worst trolls.
>Susan Cohen
SUSAN STILL TRYING TO GET THE ADDRESS OF HER OPPONENT
>All the search engines the bigots use (which I never knew of
>until THEY posted about them - such idiots! -) are centered
>in the US.
>Susan
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TOPIC: HOW TO REPORT ABUSE ON THE NET
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a6101ecc3228e05e
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 3:27 pm
From: "Panting Pink Panta"
Mhitsos wrote:
> gogu wrote:
> > Mhitsos wrote:
> >
> >>TrafalgarSquare wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>HOW TO REPORT "ALI ASKER":
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Please file an online abuse report:
> >>>For each posting that violates the laws (society or usenet) please file
> >>>an online abuse report at this adress (you can also report anonymously):
> >>>
> >>> http://bbplus.ntlworld.com/NetReport/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>This guy named "Ali Asker" is flooding the newsgroups with
> >>>his propaganda crap for the outlawed terror organisation p.k.k.
> >>
> >>They fight terror with terror.
> >>The decent think to do would be to look the other way round while the
> >>Turkish army is destroying Kurdish villages and life's.
> >>
> >>>He says that he is a terrorist.
> >>
> >>Who want's to end torture.
> >>Which means that he hates Turkish culture and custom.
> >>
> >>>He supports, or is even a
> >>>member of an outlowed terrorist organization.
> >>
> >>Instead of supporting the lawful mass murdering Turkish army.
> >>
> >>>He posts manipulated news articles,
> >>
> >>Instead of posting truthful Turkish nazi propaganda.
> >>
> >>>calls for war, spreads hate speech.
> >>
> >>Yeah, he wants to end torture the bastard.
> >>
> >>>He is in the UK.
> >>>
> >>>As can be seen he is blatantly violating national and international laws,
> >>>but it seems this guy is somehow protected by a "high" british location.
> >>
> >>Mountains?
> >>
> >>>He clearly misuses the Usenet for posting mass propaganda (he crossposts into 10+ groups).
> >>
> >>Then killfile him
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Please file your online abuse report at the above adress.
> >>
> >>He is abusing the rights of the Turkish government to abuse human rights.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>At least he is using the same alias every time so you can easily
> >>killfile him.
> >>Not so with you. You change your alias all the time and hide your IP
> >>address most of the time too.
> >
> >
> >
> > *LOLOL*
> >
> > Look who's talking
> >
> > Post your name and address, brave anonymous troll, or SHUT THE FACK UP
> > bickering little MooMoo
> Look who is talking. The nazi troll who is using 100+ aliases and
> different servers to post to the same news groups.
I knew you wouldn't post your name and address you typically GUTLESS
GREEK COWARD
You know my name don't you ? Seanie Rutledge, and my addres 1 The
Glades, Bromley
Your turn.................
Cluck Cluck Cluck Cluck !
*LMFAOAY*
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 3:36 pm
From: "Panting Pink Panta"
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ABFORM: Newsgroup posting
ABTYPE: Offensive material
OFFIP: 81.99.86.31
OFFPORT: -1
OFFEMAIL: pasa_asker@kurdistan.kd (FAKE !)
LOG: The post below is supporting an internationally outlawed terrorist
organisation known as the PKK<BR><BR>The PKK are a Marxist terrorist
group that
are Proscribed as such by the British government under the terroism act
2000<BR><BR>http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/security/terrorism-and-the-law/terroris
m-act/proscribed-groups<BR><BR>The glorification of terrorist groups is
an
arrestable offence under the terrorism act 2000<BR><BR>In addition,
this
cross-posted usenet posting is in violation of you AUP<BR><BR>Failure
to prevent
pro terrorism propaganda being spread via your server may be construed
as aiding
and abetting terrorist activity<BR><BR>Please act swiftly to prevent
this
abuse<BR><BR>Thank you<BR><BR><BR> Path:
g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.c
om!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfe
ed.freenet.de!ndsoftware.com!194.168.222.133.MISMATCH!news-out.ntli.net!newsrout
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gui.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail<BR>From: "Ali Asker"
<pasa_as...@kurdistan.kd><BR>Newsgroups:
alt.politics.greens,alt.politics.usa.congress,alt.security.terrorism,soc.culture
.british,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.kur
dish,soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.european-union<BR>Subject:
PICTURES FROM
THE KURDISH UPRISING IN TURKEY<BR>Lines: 9<BR>X-Priority:
3<BR>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal<BR>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook
Express
6.00.2900.2180<BR>X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed Original<BR>X-MimeOLE:
Produced By
Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180<BR>Message-ID:
<P%VWf.23086$Mx1.9586@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net><BR>Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006
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81.99.86.31 (Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:07:27 BST)<BR>NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu,
30 Mar
2006 20:07:27 BST<BR>Organization: ntl Cablemodem News
Service<BR><BR>Please
click the pictur!
es to en
large
them..<BR><BR>http://www.firatnews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=67
65<BR><BR>LONG LIVE PKK!!!<BR>LONG LIVE LEADER APO!!!<BR>LONG LIVE
BROTHERHOOD
OF THE PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD!!!
DATEHOUR: 20
DATEMIN: 7
DATEDAY: 30
DATEMONTH: 3
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TIMEZONE: 0
MYNAME: Serdar Argic
MYEMAIL: han@sarp.aic.com
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 1 2006 1:40 am
From: Panta Rhei
Panting Pink Panta writes:
> Mhitsos wrote:
>> gogu wrote:
>>> Mhitsos wrote:
>>>
>>>>TrafalgarSquare wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>HOW TO REPORT "ALI ASKER":
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Please file an online abuse report:
>>>>>For each posting that violates the laws (society or usenet) please file
>>>>>an online abuse report at this adress (you can also report anonymously):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://bbplus.ntlworld.com/NetReport/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This guy named "Ali Asker" is flooding the newsgroups with
>>>>>his propaganda crap for the outlawed terror organisation p.k.k.
>>>>
>>>>They fight terror with terror.
>>>>The decent think to do would be to look the other way round while the
>>>>Turkish army is destroying Kurdish villages and life's.
>>>>
>>>>>He says that he is a terrorist.
>>>>
>>>>Who want's to end torture.
>>>>Which means that he hates Turkish culture and custom.
>>>>
>>>>>He supports, or is even a
>>>>>member of an outlowed terrorist organization.
>>>>
>>>>Instead of supporting the lawful mass murdering Turkish army.
>>>>
>>>>>He posts manipulated news articles,
>>>>
>>>>Instead of posting truthful Turkish nazi propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>>calls for war, spreads hate speech.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, he wants to end torture the bastard.
>>>>
>>>>>He is in the UK.
>>>>>
>>>>>As can be seen he is blatantly violating national and international laws,
>>>>>but it seems this guy is somehow protected by a "high" british location.
>>>>
>>>>Mountains?
>>>>
>>>>>He clearly misuses the Usenet for posting mass propaganda (he crossposts into 10+ groups).
>>>>
>>>>Then killfile him
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Please file your online abuse report at the above adress.
>>>>
>>>>He is abusing the rights of the Turkish government to abuse human rights.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>At least he is using the same alias every time so you can easily
>>>>killfile him.
>>>>Not so with you. You change your alias all the time and hide your IP
>>>>address most of the time too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *LOLOL*
>>>
>>> Look who's talking
>>>
>>> Post your name and address, brave anonymous troll, or SHUT THE FACK UP
>>> bickering little MooMoo
>> Look who is talking. The nazi troll who is using 100+ aliases and
>> different servers to post to the same news groups.
>
> I knew you wouldn't post your name and address you typically GUTLESS
> GREEK COWARD
>
> You know my name don't you ? Seanie Rutledge, and my addres 1 The
> Glades, Bromley
>
> Your turn.................
>
> Cluck Cluck Cluck Cluck !
>
> *LMFAOAY*
Heheheee.... who would be foolish enough to post his real address on
Usenet?!!!! LOL Of course, a dumb tURk who was even stupid enough to post
the pics of his fat and ugly Turkish fat wife on the Internet!
BTW, retard, why did you remove her pics? Too many complaints about those
ugly pics???? LMAO!
Muahahahahaaaaaa......
--
Living the life of a ridiculed, bitchslapped loony on usenet helps Beanie
Tinfoil forget the failures in his life.
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TOPIC: We're FRICKED, peoplez !!!!!!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6b3ac486f8a62a5e
==============================================================================
== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 1 2006 10:30 am
From: imorf
immortality@so.really.really.really.old.net wrote:
> A couple of interesting links showing possible extemes of earths past climate :-)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth
> http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~devans/iitpw/iitpwpr.html
Thanks.
They are interesting in themselves, and they are extremes, but they
don't really apply to our more recent/current situation.
The geological/tectonic/atmospheric makeup/flora/fauna/solar activity of
the Earth 500 million years ago and beyond, is so different as to make
it a stretch that it can relate meaningfully to the current greenhouse
debate. The Cambrian explosion (or what caused it) and the Snowball
Earth's are not even cyclical events. They are more "one-offs" and
stemmed from large tectonic migrations of the supercontinent. Today's
Earth is relatively tectonically stable, and plates move at a slow speed.
What you need to show me/us is a graph of atm CO2 vs global temp going
back beyond 400,000 years that shows what happens if or when atm CO2
goes beyond 290ppmv.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 5:03 pm
From: imorf
immortality@so.really.really.really.old.net wrote:
> "imorf" <imorf@iformRemovethis.com.au> wrote in messa.really.really.old.net wrote:
>>>Mans influence just made the increase occur quicker.
>>
>>Man's influence has pushed atm CO2 well beyond the natural historical
>>peak. Look at this graph of est atm CO2 for the past 400,000 years
>><http://www.grida.no/climate/vital/02.htm>.
>>CO2 at 280-290ppmv appears to be the natural (ie non human influenced)
>>historical cyclical peak. That graph does not show it,
>
>
> Because the graph is 50 years old.
No it's not, it's based off the Vostok ice core which was first begun in
the 1970's and then drilled further.
" Vostok research station has operated year-round for more than 37
years. In the 1970s, researchers from the Soviet Union drilled a set of
holes 500952 m deep in the ice (see figure 2). These holes have been
used to study the oxygen isotope composition of the ice, which showed
that ice of the last glacial period was present below about 400 m depth.
Then three more holes were drilled: in 1984, Hole 3G reached a final
depth of 2202 m; in 1990, Hole 4G reached a final depth of 2546; and in
1993 Hole 5G reached a depth of 2755 m. The station was temporarily
closed in January 1994, but it reopened last November and drilling
continued during the winter of 1995. The core, the longest ever drilled,
has now reached 3100 m. It is 50 m longer than the core from Greenland
that previously held the record."
What is more important is the science behind the analysis of the core is
current. Apparently they have added another 250,000 years to the record
but I haven't seen a graph of that. If you can locate one, that would be
good.
>
>>but 2005 levels
>>were in excess of 370 ppmv (ie off the graph), and has increased from a
>>pre-industrial concentration of about 280 ppmv.
> See further below.
>>>During past events the co2 and other greenhouse gasses
>>>were just as bad, due maybe to fires, or other nutural causes.
>>Wrong, see above graph and compare current levels.
>
> That is a plot of 50 year old data which only shows the most recent events.
Are you saying the data is wrong (because you date it 50 years)?
There are enough swings in the CO2/temp graph in that record for the
last 400,000 years to show a significant regular cyclical relationship.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Phanerozoic_Carbon_Dioxide.png
>
> I've seen *much* more detailed plots of similar data
> & will post it when I find the site again.
> I've checked heaps of sites already which is why I took so long to reply.
>
That graph is meaningless to this debate. Where is the temp? How does a
500 million y.o. earth compare to today? (see my reply to your appending
post)
We need a CO2 vs Temp graph that extends the Vostok data beyond 400,000
years. There may be recently released data going back to 650,000 or even
950,000 years that would be illuminating.
<snip>
>>I do however share your pessimism. :)
>
> Though it might not seem like it, I'm not the pessimistic type :-)
> More of a realistic type.
Yes I'm a realist too, and that's why I'm pessimistic about it. The
changes are already happening, but our CO2 release is still growing at
an accelerating rate, and our economic greed will not slow it. By the
time it does, it will be too late.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Wetbacks wise to the Jew.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3a25c708edb175d7
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 6:37 pm
From: "serwad"
"127.0.0.1" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3136091.vXUDI8C0e8@0ICU8I2...
> Nationalism is the ultimate threat to the jews. Jewry, a religion and race
> of pure evil, promotes mixing everybody, except for themselves, into one
> bowl where there no longer exists any ethnicity or identity. Thus today we
> can rightly call the United States of America an empire of bastards. Jewry
> wishes to subjugate the Aryan, African and Aztec tribes and dictate to
> those tribes its wretched lies. The youth in all communities are lost by
> the many poisonous carrots that are dangled in front of them by the jewish
> media. This has created a generation of confused, unmotivated and lazy
> people who are looking for the quick and easy way to obtain these carrots.
> These youths are no longer inspired to work hard and better themselves.
> They want simply the material evils which they see on MTV and VH1. They
> crave the street drugs like Ecstasy and GHB which are manufactured in
> Israel and sold to our children by rabbis! Jewry promotes the admonition
> of
> ethnic pride and thus it always attacks those groups who preach ethnic
> pride while applauding the boot-licking turncoat groups who preach
> tolerance and co-existence. Jewry has created an intolerant and racially
> discriminatory climate in America by persecuting Aryans, Africans and
> Aztecas who have ethnic pride and are vocal about it. The jew media labels
> these people as extremist, separatist or supremacist groups which desire
> anarchy, chaos and the promotion of 'anti-semitism.' Meanwhile, jews
> continue on undetected as the real extremist, separatist and supremacist
> group. They have slowly but surely infested the infrastructure of the
> United States' government to the point that the zionist vision and plan
> are
> of the highest priority. Jews have taken control of the media which has
> basically given them the forum they need to preach and justify their evil.
> Through television, cable, Hollywood and the government jews have America
> in a strong choke-hold and will continue to squeeze so long as the people
> remain ignorant and unwilling to stop it.
>
> Through Nationalism we preserve all that jewry wishes to destroy. The
> Third
> Reich, in modern times, is vilified for its so called anti-semitism but in
> reality it was established to make Germany self sufficient and autonomous
> from the world which found itself in the clutches of an economic collapse,
> the Great Depression of the 1930's. The Third Reich, as Hitler had
> promised, did not take power violently. The will of the German people,
> through their hunger for greatness, was carried out. Nazi Germany is
> called
> a racist state which planned to exterminate all non-Aryans beginning with
> the jews. This, like most jewish slander, is in fact mere projection of
> the
> jewish psyche onto their victims. We too have suffered from their vicious
> projections. This acceptance of the jew history of Germany would be
> laughable when one studies the true dogma of the Third Reich. Consequences
> of internalizing jew lies and acting on them, as we Aztecas, like others,
> have had led to a misinformed and erroneous view of Nazi Germany. If the
> jewish depiction of Nazi Germany was true, Hitler would not have supported
> Francisco Franco in Spain, Mussolini in Italy or have aligned himself with
> Emporer Hirohito's Dai Nippon (Great Japan). Himmler's Waffen SS was the
> most perfectly multinational combat organization in the war. Arab
> civilians
> prospered more under the Axis than British/jewish occupation. We must be
> careful not to accept as fact the lies which are published and broadcast
> about Nazi Germany. We must remember at all times that the jew media
> censors what gets aired and printed and what most people read, see or hear
> has been censored to assure it conforms to the zionist agenda
>
> http://www.aztlan.net/aztlan_nationalism.htm
You got that right, amigo! If you let jews rule Latino countries they will
make slaves out of you
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TOPIC: Study: You're Wasting Your Time Praying!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e9f4d8dfa08ede4e
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 3:44 pm
From: Bob Officer
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:34:19 -0500, in alt.astrology, "Shirley"
<bigd1999@bellsoutj.net> wrote:
><snip because I like this part here>
>
>> Sorry to disappoint these slugs, but lacking a god and an afterlife,
>> prayer is about as dumb as chicken poop!
>
>I would rather get up every morning and thank God for one more day
Why What does any god have to do with that?
>to be
>with family and to offer up prayers for those who ask, than to thank or pray
>to chicken poop (which I gather you do)....
Chicken Poop after all is real, and god or gods are not.
--
Ak'toh'di
==============================================================================
TOPIC: "PKK's 'mountain Kurds' declare independence"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d059a8bd81fa642e
==============================================================================
== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 3:44 pm
From: "Panting Pink Panta"
rick murphy wrote:
> http://www.thenewanatolian.com/tna-3834.html
>
> PKK's 'mountain Kurds' declare independence
>
Ocalan is really FACKED now !
*LOL*
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 1 2006 1:53 am
From: Panta Rhei
Panting Pink Panta writes:
> rick murphy wrote:
>> http://www.thenewanatolian.com/tna-3834.html
>>
>> PKK's 'mountain Kurds' declare independence
>>
>
> Ocalan is really FACKED now !
>
> *LOL*
Awww, how cute: dumb, helpless Turkish Nazis trying to reassure each other!
LMAO!
--
Living the life of a ridiculed, bitchslapped loony on usenet helps Beanie
Tinfoil forget the failures in his life.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: DESERTER SPEAKS OF U.S. ATROCITIES IN IRAQ
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dd0400e37e5d2d45
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 6:50 pm
From: "serwad"
"captain." <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
news:y4hXf.14859$B_1.9893@edtnps89...
> this story did make the news in canada. whether or not it is all true is
> not for me to judge but for once spermy did post a real story.
IF YOU WERE COMPUTER LITERATE, YOU COULD VERIFY EVERY STORY. HOWEVER YOU ARE
A DONKEY AND I AM NOT ABOUT TO TEACH YOU HOW TO DO IT
>
> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:TJ_Wf.2815$L7.897@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> War deserter tells of atrocities
>>
>> By ANDREW DAVIDSON
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> TORONTO (CP) - A "trigger-happy" U.S. army squad leader shot the foot off
>> an unarmed Iraqi man and soldiers kicked a severed head around like a
>> soccer ball, a U.S. war deserter told an Immigration and Refugee Board
>> hearing Thursday.
>>
>> Joshua Key, the first U.S. deserter with combat experience in Iraq to
>> apply for refugee status in Canada, told the board he witnessed numerous
>> atrocities committed by U.S. forces while serving eight months as a
>> combat engineer.
>>
>> Key, 27, said he was never trained on the Geneva Convention and was told
>> in Iraq by superior officers that the international law guiding
>> humanitarian standards was just a "guideline."
>>
>> "It's shoot first, ask questions later," Key said of his squad's guiding
>> principles. "Everything's justified."
>>
>> Key is one of five members of the U.S. armed forces asking for asylum in
>> Canada.
>>
>> But the Oklahoma native is unique in that he is the only applicant that
>> has combat experience in Iraq, said Key's lawyer, Jeffry House. The other
>> are seeking asylum in Canada to avoid being sent there, he said.
>>
>> "He has boots-on-the-ground experience about what the actual conduct of
>> the war in Iraq is," House said outside the hearing.
>>
>> With visible bags under his eyes, Key told the hearing he suffers from
>> post-traumatic stress disorder and frequently has nightmares over what he
>> witnessed in Iraq.
>>
>> He recalled participating in almost nightly raids on homes of suspected
>> insurgents in Ramadi and Fallujah as a member of the 43rd Combat Engineer
>> Company.
>>
>> He said that while the raids seldom turned up anything of interest, he
>> often saw soldiers ransack the homes and steal jewelry or money, while
>> superior officers looked the other way.
>>
>> He also said several Iraqis were shot dead, and that they were cases of
>> soldiers "shooting out of fear and inventing reasons afterward."
>>
>> In Ramadi, Key said he saw the beheaded bodies of four Iraqis beside a
>> shot-up truck and witnessed several members of the Florida National Guard
>> kick a severed head "like a soccer ball."
>>
>> Key also said he witnessed one of his "trigger happy" platoon's squad
>> sergeants shoot part of an unarmed Iraqi man's foot off in Khaldia, a
>> village between Fallujah and Ramadi. The man was sitting on a chair
>> outside a store and had raised his foot as a sign of disrespect, he said.
>>
>> Key added he was never questioned about the incident and was not aware of
>> any charges being laid.
>>
>> Keith Brennenstuhl, the IRB member overseeing the hearing, ruled at an
>> earlier hearing that the board would not consider the legality of the
>> U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
>>
>> Key also described seeing U.S. soldiers indiscriminately kick and scream
>> at two hooded and naked detainees while escorting them to a grassy area
>> to relieve themselves.
>>
>> Brennenstuhl asked Key whether he received any interrogation training
>> before dragging detainees out of their homes during raids.
>>
>> "The only thing we were told was how to keep them quiet," Key said,
>> explaining that soldiers cuffed prisoners' hands behind their backs and
>> put hoods over their heads.
>>
>> "Could they breathe?" Brennenstuhl asked.
>>
>> "I guess it wasn't my concern," Key responded, adding that officers said
>> the hoods were designed "to humiliate them."
>>
>> Key, the father of four young children, told the hearing he joined the
>> army for steady pay and medical coverage for his family. He said he
>> initially went to Iraq as a willing participant because he believed U.S.
>> intelligence claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
>>
>> But Key became disillusioned with the war during his service and decided
>> to abandon his contract with the army during a two-week leave from Iraq
>> in November 2003.
>>
>> He and his family lived on the run in Philadelphia before crossing the
>> border at Niagara Falls, N.Y., on March 3, 2005.
>>
>> Key now works as a welder in Fort St. John, B.C. He and his wife Brandi
>> have four children between the ages of seven months and six years.
>>
>> If returned to the United States, Key said he believed the army would
>> "make an example" of him as a way to deter other possible deserters.
>>
>> Lawyers from all parties will submit their written submissions in the
>> coming weeks before the board rules on Key's application.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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TOPIC: Is Socialism Good in Theory?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5375955ce2b01791
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 4:03 pm
From: "Alohacyberian"
"Antimulticulture" <Antimulticulture@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:442d070e$0$2124$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Is Socialism Good in Theory?
> http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/gov_philosophy/socialism_in_theory.htm
> Sheldon Richman
> October 2003
>
> Socialism has been mortally discredited on economic grounds, thanks
> to
> Ludwig von Mises, F. A. Hayek, and history. But for many people it has not
> been discredited on moral grounds. You can tell this by how often people
> say
> that while socialism doesn't work in practice, it is good in theory.
>
> Strange notion - that a theory which doesn't work in the world can
> somehow still be good. Where else is it to be judged? One would think that
> a
> theory whose consistent realization requires gulags and secret police
> would
> be morally disqualified even if it "worked."
>
Many diehard Socialists and Communists contend that the reason Socialism and
Communism have never worked is because the right people haven't been in
charge. :-) KM
~ Article #17
~ The Politically Correct "Official Elitist Leftwing Liberal Handbook"
~ http://alohahawaii.home.att.net/leftwing.html
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