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* Wind energy more lucrative than cattle - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3726cc33bd4f4b69
* Muslims Call For Release Of Afghan Christian - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f2baad4018d91f24
* LOS QUE SE CAGAN EN LAS LEYES QUIENES SON ? ESOS NO DEBIERAN LLORAR CUANDO
OTROS HACEN LO MISMO...JE, JE.JE Y LES PARTEN EL PESCUEZO - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5613fd1b972930e5
* SAYANIM - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8a494914ed8eb434
* HOW ISRAEL CONTROLS WHAT YOU READ - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/508d9a807a59d05d
* Tinfoil Hat kook-rant #82 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/201463c9d0285830
* ELIMINANDO A LOS VERDADEROS SINDICATOS...Fedepetrol critica violación del
contrato por creacion de EPS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/57d61b390dd9f190
* Once Protected by Hussein, Palestinians Suffer Backlash - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c3515b9c2e3031f2
* Sing Along With BITCH ("Itz Hard Out Here For A Pimp") - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d050999ea1771c53
* N.Korea: Pre-emptive Attacks Can Go Both Ways - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/51baedf3751506b1
* Jews rip off Randy Quaid - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/38b345ee0806497
* Funnier and cleaner than Dave Chappelle ... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dab5772c6d1af6c2
* City to Pay $1.7 Million for hiSPanIC Drunk - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/38b5755faa4788d0
* Pakistan, Saudi Arabia in secret nuke pact - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/45dc30161b341339
* Afghan Clerics Demand Convert Be Killed - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b9fd448c30224917
* Bush shuns Patriot Act requirement - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b5d2c03d1270969a
* GUN NUT OPENS FIRE AT CALIF DENNY'S, KILLS ONE - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cab9e6c5a535051b
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TOPIC: Wind energy more lucrative than cattle
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3726cc33bd4f4b69
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Date: Sun, Mar 26 2006 2:15 am
From: jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
In sci.physics dragmit <dragmit@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Wind energy is a great potential source for electrical energy.
> Electricity can and most probably will replace out present
> transportation energies.
Yeah, right, just pour 4 cups of electrons down the fuel spout of your
18 wheeler...
<snip remaining>
--
Jim Pennino
Remove .spam.sux to reply.
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TOPIC: Muslims Call For Release Of Afghan Christian
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f2baad4018d91f24
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Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 11:34 pm
From: "Sam Rahul"
"smashter" <smashter@mink.com> wrote in message news:NmmVf.8081$qX6.326786@news20.bellglobal.com...
> It should not be denounced as 'to enhance the understanding of Islam,
> encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American'. It should be
> denounced as a filthy,black-hearted muderous judgment that only a pig would
> decide. It is a judgment only a sub-human pig would
> advocate. It has developed from a love of lucifer. It is an act of
> evil....only a follower of lucifer
You are full of hate.
> could even consider such an evil judgment.The coward who has made this
> judgment will go to his god,lucfer and he will burn in hell for ever and
> ever...he is a pig.a dog. a coward.he sits in judgment , arrogant and
> merciless like his god...lucifer....
You need psychological help, you are on the brinks of getting into a mental institution
>
> "Sam Rahul" <SamRahul@NOemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1pSdnWspzpYfcLjZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@sysmatrix.net...
> > Wednesday, March 22, 2006
> > CAIR Calls For Release Of Afghan Christian
> >
> > In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
> >
> > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> >
> > CAIR CALLS FOR RELEASE OF AFGHAN CHRISTIAN
> > Islamic civil rights group says conversion a personal, not state matter
> >
> > (WASHINGTON, D.C., 3/22/2006) - A prominent national Islamic civil rights
> > and advocacy group today called on the
> > government of Afghanistan to release Abdul Rahman, a man facing the death
> > penalty for converting from Islam to
> > Christianity.
> >
> > The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) says the
> > man's conversion is a personal matter not
> > subject to the intervention of the state.
> >
> > SEE: Afghan Christian Could Face Death
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/22/world/main1428951.shtml
> >
> > In its statement, CAIR said:
> >
> > "Islamic scholars say the original rulings on apostasy were similar to
> > those for treasonous acts in legal systems
> > worldwide and do not apply to an individual's choice of religion. Islam
> > advocates both freedom of religion and freedom
> > of conscience, a position supported by verses in the Quran, Islam's
> > revealed text, such as:
> >
> > 1) 'If it had been the will of your Lord that all the people of the world
> > should be believers, all the people of the
> > earth would have believed! Would you then compel mankind against their
> > will to believe?' (10:99)
> > 2) '(O Prophet) proclaim: 'This is the Truth from your Lord. Now let him
> > who will, believe in it, and him who will, deny
> > it.'' (18:29)
> > 3) 'If they turn away from thee (O Muhammad) they should know that We have
> > not sent you to be their keeper. Your only
> > duty is to convey My message.' (42:48)
> > 4) 'Let there be no compulsion in religion.' (2:256)
> >
> > "Religious decisions should be matters of personal choice, not a cause for
> > state intervention. Faith imposed by force is
> > not true belief, but coercion. Islam has no need to compel belief in its
> > divine truth. As the Quran states: 'Truth
> > stands out clear from error. Therefore, whoever rejects evil and believes
> > in God has grasped the most trustworthy
> > hand-hold that never breaks.' (2:256)
> >
> > "We urge the government of Afghanistan to order the immediate release of
> > Mr. Abdul Rahman."
> >
> > Before issuing its statement, CAIR consulted with members of the Fiqh
> > Council of North America, an association of
> > Islamic legal scholars that interprets Muslim religious law.
> >
> > CAIR, America's largest Muslim civil liberties group, has 32 offices,
> > chapters and affiliates nationwide and in Canada.
> > Its mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue,
> > protect civil liberties, empower American
> > Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual
> > understanding.
> >
> > - END -
> > www.cair-net.org
> >
> >
>
>
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TOPIC: LOS QUE SE CAGAN EN LAS LEYES QUIENES SON ? ESOS NO DEBIERAN LLORAR
CUANDO OTROS HACEN LO MISMO...JE, JE.JE Y LES PARTEN EL PESCUEZO
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5613fd1b972930e5
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Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 9:04 pm
From: "PM"
"La Revolución está por encima de la ley" dijo un connotado protagonista del
oficialismo con ocasión de una solicitud de un propietario invadido, en una
desigual confrontación entre un hombre con poder armado y uno que no lo
está. El poderoso nunca podrá sacar razón de su fuerza; pero siempre
podremos obtener fuerza de la razón. Ante la mirada impávida de las
"autoridades", vándalos en los barrios se han apoderado de los expendios de
Mercal y los vecinos aterrorizados se encierran en sus casas para no ser
objeto de agresiones; los médicos cubanos están en franco proceso de
deserción rumbo a barrio afuera; las casas en las cuales se reparte comida
a los mas necesitados se enriquecen mientras se reparten escasas raciones de
bajísimo poder alimenticio; en el campo recrudecen las invasiones a fincas
en plena producción para dejarlas destruidas. El poder se defiende con la
censura, acallando a los medios de comunicación. Se podría esperar una
transición por colapso del poder, ante la indiferencia de unos funcionarios
públicos sometidos el gobierno autoritario y la actitud pasiva del sector
más empobrecido convertido en una organización de supervivencia. Sólo se
puede salir de una situación como la descrita mediante la unidad real de la
sociedad civil con todos los partidos de la oposición y con la presencia de
un factor que se convierta en barrera.
--
THE MOST DANGEROUS ENNEMY OF HUMANITY :
ARE NOT THE NUCLEAR OR MASS DESTRUCTION WEAPONS,
BUT STUPIDITY, FOR WHICH EVERY MINUTE... MANY HUMANS GET HURT.
¿SE LIBERARAN ALGUN DIA DELA ESTUPIDEZ?
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TOPIC: SAYANIM
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8a494914ed8eb434
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Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 9:23 pm
From: "PhonyRevSucks"
DoD wrote:
> <Joseph> wrote in message
> news:84qb22d8js29q3t51ng0964sojs9smm1db@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:35:59 -0500, "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> --
>> "I hope the time is not far off,when I shall be able to unite all the
>> wise and educated men of all the countries and establish auniform
>> regime based on the principles of Qu'ran, which alone are true.and
>> which alone can lead,man to happiness" (Napoleon Bonaparte)
>
>> ***I knew it! You have a Napoleonic complex!
>
> He has a complex for sure. A penchant for lying. That is a fake quote.
"Alex Spermwad is a fucktard" --Napoleon Bonaparte
--
___________________________________________________________
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities
of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the
name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of
darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost
children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and
furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my
brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance
upon thee.
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TOPIC: HOW ISRAEL CONTROLS WHAT YOU READ
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/508d9a807a59d05d
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Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 6:26 pm
From: "Ariadne"
serwad wrote:
> "Ariadne" <ariadne.mac@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1143187138.477730.222820@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Theodore Herzl wrote:
> >> The fact that Harvard was pressured into removing the logo only proves
> >> just how powerful and corrupting the Israeli lobbies have become. By
> >> removing the logo, the University is protecting themselves from the
> >> Jewish attack dogs that work tirelessly to deflect criticism of the
> >> Israeli regime.
> >>
> >
> > And NORMAL people know that THE TRUTH has everything
> > to do with it.
>
> The fact that Israel, with it's 4.8 million Russian and Polish immigrants,
> with an average IQ of 90, and a aggressive behavior, caused by years of
> inbreeding, are sitting on 400 plus nukes, are the real monsters we have to
> fear.
>
> Iran never attacked a unarmed US ship.
The FACT?
You have never posted a fact in your entire
posting history in 984098985380957571
different IDs.
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TOPIC: Tinfoil Hat kook-rant #82
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/201463c9d0285830
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Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 6:27 pm
From: running dogg
Monkey Boy wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:45:31 -0500, "Uncle Fartface"
> <santafarter@flaresortdong.com> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
> <331eb$441fa105$d1cc7a6c$999@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>:
>
> > Charles Schlund is a whistleblower and
> > political witness who is being subjected to *high-tech*
> > [i.e. electronic] torture by the U.S. government,
>
> They strap him in a chair and make him watch American Idol?
>
No, they put him in a cell and played "It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp"
over and over.
Oh wait, if they're doing that, he must be in Gitmo, so he wouldn't be
filing any lawsuits.
Never mind.
Maybe you're right. American Idol contains secret messages that only he
can hear.
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TOPIC: ELIMINANDO A LOS VERDADEROS SINDICATOS...Fedepetrol critica violación
del contrato por creacion de EPS
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/57d61b390dd9f190
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Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 9:08 pm
From: "PM"
Caracas, sábado 25 de marzo, 2006
Economía
Misión para evitar trabas
El Ejecutivo Nacional sustituyó las asignaciones económicas a
las amas de casa por la Misión Madres del Barrio para saltar los pasos
legales estipulados en la normativa vigente. En la Gaceta Oficial número
38.404 que circuló ayer quedó plasmada la creación de la nueva misión social
y allí se incluyeron los requisitos que deberán cumplir las mujeres que
participen en el programa.
ver más información
Fedepetrol critica violación del contrato por creacion de EPS
El Comité Ejecutivo de la Federación de Trabajadores Petroleros,
Químicos y sus Similares de Venezuela (Fedepetrol) rechazó la creación de
las Empresas de Producción Social (EPS) por considerar que violan la
Convención Colectiva Petrolera y atentan contra la estabilidad de los
trabajadores de este sector.
ver más información
Existe preacuerdo para precio de la sardina
Un preacuerdo sobre un precio de 150 bolívares por kilogramo de
sardina fresca se produjo entre pescadores artesanales independientes del
golfo de Cariaco, en Sucre, e industriales del sector sardinero.
ver más información
Cesta Venezolana retrocedió 45 centavos por barril
La cesta venezolana de crudo y derivados petroleros retrocedió
este ejercicio, tras cuatro semanas consecutivas de ascenso, como
consecuencia de las masivas liquidaciones de contratos que experimentaron
los mercados a futuro. De acuerdo con lo explicado por el Ministerio de
Energía y Petróleo, las cotizaciones se recuperaron hacia el final de la
semana ante los temores de un menor suministro de petróleo de parte de
Nigeria, lo cual provocó un resultado mixto.
ver más información
Ajuste a precios de inmuebles será mediante bandas por
parroquias
El Ministerio de la Vivienda y el sector inmobiliario continúan
haciendo ajustes al plan de estabilización de los precios de las soluciones
habitacionales y en las últimas reuniones han decidido establecer bandas
referenciales por parroquias de manera temporal.
ver más información
Listo proyecto de Ley de Desarrollo Agrario
En 15 días será presentado a la plenaria de la Asamblea Nacional
el proyecto de Ley Orgánica de Desarrollo Agrario y Soberanía Alimentaria,
formulado por la Comisión de Desarrollo Económico presidida por el diputado
Ricardo Gutiérrez (Podemos-Portuguesa).
ver más información
Breves Economía
Mercantil lidera cartera de crédito
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Gobierno destaca optimismo del sector industrial
La ministra de Industrias Ligeras y Comercio, María Cristina
Iglesias, aseguró que los resultados registrados por el sector industrial
del país demuestran que es falso que exista un descenso de la actividad
manufacturera en los últimos meses, tal y como lo aseguró esta semana el
presidente de Conindustria, Eduardo Gómez Sigala.
ver más información
INTI actúa con potestad legal
La procuradora general de la República, Marisol Plaza, calificó
como absurdo pensar que todas las decisiones del Gobierno deban ser
sometidas obligatoriamente de manera previa ante un juez de la República
para tenerlas como valederas.
ver más información
Chávez cree que la CAN recibió puñalada con firma de TLC por
parte de Colombia
Para el presidente venezolano, Hugo Chávez Frías, la firma del
Tratado de Libre Comercio entre Colombia y Estados Unidos es una "puñalada"
para la Comunidad Andina de Naciones (CAN) y por tanto este bloque "se
acabó".
ver más información
"Debemos hacer una realidad el Banco del Sur"
Los presidentes de los bancos centrales de América Latina y el
Caribe han iniciado el análisis de las perspectivas de integración económica
y financiera en la región.
ver más información
Declaran medida de embargo a cuentas de petrolera ENI
El Tribunal Superior Cuarto en lo Contencioso Administrativo
dictó una medida cautelar sobre las cuentas por cobrar a Petróleos de
Venezuela de la compañía Eni Dación por 99,4 millardos de bolívares.
ver más información
Chávez indica que Venezuela está lista para iniciar aportes
El presidente de la República, Hugo Chávez, afirmó ante los
representantes de los bancos centrales de Latinoamérica y el Caribe que
Venezuela está lista para crear el Banco del Sur y sólo espera porque otras
naciones den el paso.
ver más información
Medida de restricción está vigente
El Ejecutivo Nacional podría interrumpir temporalmente la medida
de suspensión sobre la frecuencia de vuelo a las aerolíneas estadounidenses,
dependiendo del "clima de la reunión acordada con la Administración Federal
de Aviación (FAA), la cual está prevista a celebrarse este lunes 27 con
funcionarios del Instituto Nacional de Aeronáutica Civil (INAC)".
ver más información
Anuncian I Macro Rueda de Negocios Suramericana en Caracas
El ministro para la Integración y el Comercio Exterior, Gustavo
Márquez, anunció la realización de la I Macro Rueda Suramericana de Negocios
e Inversión, que se efectuará en Caracas del 16 al 19 de mayo, con la
participación de Colombia, Ecuador, Perú, Bolivia, Argentina, Brasil,
Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, Surinam y Guyana.
ver más información
Acerca de la reversión de la apertura
Juan Carlos Sosa Azpúrua
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--
THE MOST DANGEROUS ENNEMY OF HUMANITY :
ARE NOT THE NUCLEAR OR MASS DESTRUCTION WEAPONS,
BUT STUPIDITY, FOR WHICH EVERY MINUTE... MANY HUMANS GET HURT.
¿SE LIBERARAN ALGUN DIA DELA ESTUPIDEZ?
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TOPIC: Once Protected by Hussein, Palestinians Suffer Backlash
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c3515b9c2e3031f2
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Date: Sun, Mar 26 2006 12:34 pm
From: "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com>
"serebel" <serebel@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1143338177.034340.68300@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> If they all killed each other, the world will be better off.
They seem to be working toward achieving that goal.
>
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TOPIC: Sing Along With BITCH ("Itz Hard Out Here For A Pimp")
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d050999ea1771c53
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Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 9:42 pm
From: Voice Of Reason <>
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:59:59 -0800, Von Bailey
<ovbailey@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:29:20 -0500, Voice Of Reason <> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:37:16 -0800, Von Bailey
>><ovbailey@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:32:59 -0500, Voice Of Reason <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Can anyone please explain WHY this "song" is nominated for an award??
>>>>>>>>>>>>At least someone had enough common sense to ensure a 5-second *delay*
>>>>>>>>>>>>is in effect during the show.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Because it does a good job of representing the movie that it was
>>>>>>>>>>>scored for, which would be the reason any song is nominated in the
>>>>>>>>>>>oscars.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Can ya show us where it says THAT is the main criteria for nomination?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Where did I say it was the 'main reason'? Again you misiterpret my
>>>>>>>>>words and ask me to explain your misinterpretation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes you're right. You did say it was "the" reason for its nomination,
>>>>>>>>not the main reason. So my question is even more relevant now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.oscars.org/78academyawards/rules/rule16.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Read the rules and get informed before you get into discussions you
>>>>>>>know little about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Where in the rules does it justify voting for a piece of trash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>I see. Everyone was supposed to start with the premise that YOUR
>>>>>opinion is the only one that matters. Well, sorry to disappoint you
>>>>>but the people who voted obviously couldn't care less about your
>>>>>opinion on the matter. Try to live with it.
>>>>
>>>>I can live with it just fine, because I realized many, many years ago
>>>>that the Oscar awards committee was packed with folks who are way out
>>>>of the mainstream. Of course, I do keep hoping for a pleasant
>>>>surprise now and then, but it looks like I've got more waiting to do.
>>>>
>>>It's interesting that you consider yourself the definition of
>>>'mainstream' while the real thing moves further and further from you.
>>>As I have said in the past, you will die off, just like all the old
>>>people who ranted about how rock and roll, jazz and any other kind of
>>>music that moved into the mainstream was destroying something and
>>>never did. And Rap Music will still be here...
>>
>>cRap music will be still be here for a small group of knuckleheads,
>>but just because the super-liberal Hollywood types saw fit to give it
>>ONE award doesn't mean that it is now "accepted" by the mainstream,
>>because it isn't.
>>
>That's right. Stay in denial you serve a purpose there. An example
>of a dying breed. First step, they deny the world is changing around
>them, fail to adapt and die off.
Wrong, wrong and wrong. Now quit dreaming, get out of bed and go do
something constructive. Like chase the pimps off your block.
>>>>>>>>>Are you claiming
>>>>>>>>>that the song has nothing to do with the movie it was scored for? Are
>>>>>>>>>you claiming that such a criteria has nothing to do with it's
>>>>>>>>>nomination?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Virutally every movie made over the past 40 years has a soundtrack, so
>>>>>>>>the fact that this putrid film has a song that "represents" it is
>>>>>>>>meaningless. I still have no idea, upon reviewing the lyrics, why on
>>>>>>>>earth *this* song is worthy of an award.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's because, as you have already admitted, you haven't seen the
>>>>>>>film and you are a poor judge of whether or not it effectively
>>>>>>>represents the film for just that reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Since nearly every movie made has at least one song that "represents"
>>>>>>it at least as well as this one, I still don't see why *this* one has
>>>>>>to win the award.
>>>>>>
>>>>>You haven't seen the movie so you have no legitmate metric to make
>>>>>your judgement from. Until then it's just you ranting your usual
>>>>>uninformed opinion.
>>>>
>>>>Wrong, I DO have a "legitmate metric" -- it's called the lyrics, which
>>>>I and others around here have referred to, including right here on
>>>>this thread. Now grab some coffee, then open yer eyes, and yer mind
>>>>too.
>>>>
>>>Your "legitmate metric" is not the one that the oscars use so as far
>>>as the "oscar winners" your metric is useless. Go find someone who
>>>cares about the songs of old white men wishing for the past.
>>
>>You missed the point as usual. Of course the Oscar folks didn't take
>>the lyrics into account when selecting the award -- if they did, they
>>would have had to give the award to someone else.
>>
>According to you who was not part of the process and as such has
>nothing except your bigotted notiions to draw from.
Nothing except the words of the lyrics themselves, which were freely
available to any interested party before the awards were decided, and
thus could have (and should have) been reviewed by the members of the
committee before the vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>You want songs about happy people singing in the mountains go back to
>>>>>>>>>>>the past where you belong. Oops, you can't do that. Guess you'll
>>>>>>>>>>>have to deal with reality.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Wrong dunce. I already do deal with "reality", and have been every
>>>>>>>>>>day that I've walked on this Earth. Unlike you. Now I don't
>>>>>>>>>>necessarily want "happy" songs, but I don't think filth that might be
>>>>>>>>>>OK in the `hood but nowhere else should get a form of AA here. Like:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Man it seems like I'm duckin dodgin bullets everyday
>>>>>>>>>>Niggaz hatin on me cause I got, hos on the tray
>>>>>>>>>>But I gotta stay paid, gotta stay above water
>>>>>>>>>>Couldn't keep up with my hos, that's when s--- got harder
>>>>>>>>>>North Memphis where I'm from, I'm 7th Street bound
>>>>>>>>>>Where niggaz all the time end up lost and never found
>>>>>>>>>>Man these girls think we prove thangs, leave a big head
>>>>>>>>>>They come hopin every night, they don't end up bein dead
>>>>>>>>>>Wait I got a snow bunny, and a black girl too
>>>>>>>>>>You pay the right price and they'll both do you
>>>>>>>>>>That's the way the game goes, gotta keep it strictly pimpin
>>>>>>>>>>Gotta have my hustle tight, makin change off these women, yeah"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Now I've said this before and I say it again: What if MLK had
>>>>>>>>>>suddenly returned to life. Suppose he came back Sunday evening,
>>>>>>>>>>flipped on the TV to see what passes for entertainment today, tuned
>>>>>>>>>>into the Oscars and saw a group of young black men chanting the above
>>>>>>>>>>lyrics? What would he think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have no idea, but I am quite certain that his concern would be
>>>>>>>>>turned towards an illegal war and a government that was lying to it's
>>>>>>>>>citizens to cover up the biggest corruption scandal in Washington in
>>>>>>>>>decades instead of what is happening at the oscars. Especially given
>>>>>>>>>that his rhetoric had turned towards an anti-war message instead of
>>>>>>>>>civil rights towards the end of his life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So IOW he wouldn't give a damn about the current state of affairs in
>>>>>>>>the black community?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No. He wouldn't measure the current state of affairs in the black
>>>>>>>community by what was nominated as best song in the oscars. He wasn't
>>>>>>>stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But he understood the power of the media. Better than many even
>>>>>>today, over 40 years later. I seriously doubt he would have been
>>>>>>pleased that of all the songs associated with movies that were written
>>>>>>and/or performed by black artists, this particular one was deemed
>>>>>>worthy of an Oscar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Only a stupid bigot such as yourself would think that MLK would be
>>>>>judging the condition of the black community based on a song being
>>>>>judged by a mostly white audience, the oscar voters. He, unlike you,
>>>>>would have the decency to actually speak to black people in their
>>>>>homes and workplaces just as he did in the time he was alive. To
>>>>>assume that he would do so by clicking on the television set and
>>>>>making a judgement based on an awards show is just stupid, which
>>>>>explains why you used it.
>>>>
>>>>And he had gone out to black homes and workplaces, he would have
>>>>gotten an earful, just like when a couple of journalists for the
>>>>Washington Post did the day after the awards:
>>>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/06/AR2006030601461.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, let's see what the article says about it...
>>>
>>>Retha Hill, vice president of content for BET.com -- whose audience is
>>>largely African American, college-educated and urban -- said her Web
>>>site began posting discussions soon after the song was nominated
>>>because her staff knew it would be controversial.
>>>
>>>She said the Oscar selection and the song should be put in context. It
>>>was rapped in the film by the pimp as he struggled to make it as a
>>>hip-hop artist, she said. He was telling the story of how he hoped to
>>>rise above his circumstances and improve his lot -- a classic underdog
>>>story.
>>>
>>>"In the context of the movie, the song makes perfect sense," Hill
>>>said. "But if you have not seen the movie or are just watching the
>>>performance on the Academy Awards as members of middle America and you
>>>hear someone talking about being a pimp, it is very difficult for you
>>>to understand."
>>>___________________________
>>>
>>>Imagine that!! She says that the song should be put in context, just
>>>like I've been saying all along.
>>
>>Yes, the context that the main character is a PIMP. Some hero.
>>
>Who said it was a story about a hero?
Well the song about him got an Oscar, didn't it?
>>And everyone else, those ordinary folks in the `hood who were
>>interviewed for the article were not as enthusiastic about the award,
>>and some were outright disappointed.
>>
>>And of course, other reviewers, including black ones, of the movie
>>weren't as thrilled either. From:
>>http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/story/331126p-283024c.html
>>
>>Film tries to 'Hustle' us on value of street cred
>>by Stanley Crouch
>>
>I couldn't care less what your "acceptable black person" has to say on
>the subject.
You really DO enjoy wallowing in your ignorance.
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TOPIC: N.Korea: Pre-emptive Attacks Can Go Both Ways
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/51baedf3751506b1
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 26 2006 2:44 am
From: Tank Fixer
In article <sqsb221jd24gpjmfkpmlo42k1m27nso0gs@4ax.com>,
on Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:50:54 -0800,
Nick James no@ddress.here attempted to say .....
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:46:13 GMT, Tank Fixer <paul.deekat.carrier@127.0.0.1>
> wrote:
>
> >True, but he won't understand why his TV is acting funny just before his walls
> >blow in...
>
> I live in northern BC Canada. I think I'm safe.:)
hahahaha
--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.
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TOPIC: Jews rip off Randy Quaid
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/38b345ee0806497
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 26 2006 2:46 am
From: "Salah Jafar"
Jews Homosexual movie Brokeback mountain was a success in the theater as thousand of Jews flock to the theater to see their art work of homosexuality. But the Jews needed good actors, so the Jews told Quaid the movie is low budget and they cut his seven hundred thousand to nothing. Now Quid filled a law suit against the thieving Parasites. Good luck to you Quid, we lost Palestine to the Parasite through robbery and murder.
SJ
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 6:58 pm
From: "Al Nakba"
We heard that you auditioned for Brokeback Bedouin..Dweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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TOPIC: Funnier and cleaner than Dave Chappelle ...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dab5772c6d1af6c2
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 6:46 pm
From: riclanders@gmail.com
Funnier than Bernie Mac. Funnier and cleaner than Dave Chappelle ...
Help this comedic genius land a sitcom.
See his clips here:
http://backdoorstuff2.blogspirit.com/
And return for daily updates...
Prof Marvel
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TOPIC: City to Pay $1.7 Million for hiSPanIC Drunk
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/38b5755faa4788d0
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 26 2006 2:49 am
From: Tank Fixer
In article <ajfVf.2968$q6.2595@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
on Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:46:54 -0500,
Frank Arthur Art@Arthurian.com attempted to say .....
> Obviously you hate Hispanics.
> Judges have awarded millions of dollars for people being the "victims" of
> things like spilling hot coffee on themselves. Those millions go to Poles,
> Greeks,Irish,Germans etc? Should these all be deported too? Or only
> Mexicans?
"NYC XYZ" is a racist pig, if you hadn't noticed yet...
>
> "NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1143304523.781374.149770@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Ever wonder what they mean when the trains shut down due to a "sick
> > passenger"??
> >
> > The only thing worse than a drunk is a hispanic drunk!
> >
> > PUTAS LATINAS!!!!
> >
> > DEPORT THEM NOW!!!!
> >
> >
> > http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/402855p-341181c.html
> >
> > EXCERPTS
> >
> > Have the judges in Albany been hitting the bottle? The state's highest
> > court has decided the Transit Authority should be held liable for a
> > train hitting a Queens man - even though the man was illegally
> > trespassing on the subway tracks after a night of drinking.
> >
> > The ruling by the state Court of Appeals Thursday makes Juan Soto a
> > millionaire with $400,000 to spare.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Soto's lawyers argued that their client could run as fast as 8 mph - an
> > estimate based on how he once ran on a treadmill.
> >
> > Based on that calculation, a Queens jury accepted the argument that the
> > motorman had enough time to stop the train before striking Soto - even
> > though he never should have been on the tracks.
> >
>
>
>
--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.
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TOPIC: Pakistan, Saudi Arabia in secret nuke pact
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/45dc30161b341339
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 7:00 pm
From: visualseeplus@yahoo.com
Eyeran may be just responding to Saudi Arabia's aquisition of nukez.
For years, pakistan has been receiving a lot of free money from Saudi
arabia to bank roll its drive for nuclear weapons. The deal involved
sharing of the fruits of the labor (i.e pak makes the nuke, and
transfers it to saudi arabia thereby making them nuke capability).
However that plan has gone haywire with the arrival of Americans in
Pakistan. The US is now so deeply embedded in pakistan 'fighting
terrorism' that any attempt at nuclear cooperation between saudi & pak
will be easily detected. Its kind of hard for Saudis to cash in their
'investments' and get their bomb and after all that money they have
given pakistan, they have no bomb to show for it. In fustration, Saudi
arabia just recently refused to extend its 2 billion dollar a year free
oil handout to pakistan. Perhaps they realise they have been cheated
and are not getting the bomb?
-------------------------------------
Pakistan, Saudi Arabia in secret nuke pact
By Arnaud de Borchgrave
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have concluded a
secret agreement on "nuclear cooperation" that will provide the Saudis
with nuclear-weapons technology in exchange for cheap oil, according to
a ranking Pakistani insider.
The disclosure came at the end of a 26-hour state visit to
Islamabad last weekend by Crown Prince Abdullah bin Abdulaziz, Saudi
Arabia's de facto ruler, who flew across the Arabian Sea with an
entourage of 200, including Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al Faisal and
several Cabinet ministers.
Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud, the pro-American defense
minister who is next in line to the throne after the crown prince, was
not part of the delegation.
"It will be vehemently denied by both countries," said the
Pakistani source, whose information has proven reliable for more than a
decade, "but future events will confirm that Pakistan has agreed to
provide [Saudi Arabia] with the wherewithal for a nuclear deterrent."
As predicted, Saudi Arabia - which has faced strong international
suspicion for years that it was seeking a nuclear capability through
Pakistan - strongly denied the claim.
Prince Sultan was quoted in the Saudi newspaper Okaz yesterday
saying that "no military agreements were concluded between the kingdom
and Pakistan during [Prince Abdullah´s] visit to Islamabad."
Mohammad Sadiq, deputy chief of mission for Pakistan's embassy in
Washington, also denied any nuclear deal was in the works. "That is
totally incorrect," he said in a telephone interview. "We have a clear
policy: We will not export our nuclear expertise."
But the CIA believes Pakistan already has shared its nuclear
know-how, working with North Korea in exchange for missile technology.
A Pakistani C-130 was spotted by satellite loading North Korean
missiles at Pyongyang airport last year. Pakistan, which is estimated
to have between 35 and 60 nuclear weapons, said this was a straight
purchase for cash and strongly denied a nuclear quid pro quo.
"Both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia," the Pakistani source said, "see a
world that is moving from nonproliferation to proliferation of nuclear
weapons."
The Saudi rulers, who are Sunni Muslims, are believed to have
concluded that nothing will deter the Shi'ite Muslims who rule Iran
from continuing their quest for a nuclear weapons capability.
more at :
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20031021-112804-8451r.htm
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TOPIC: Afghan Clerics Demand Convert Be Killed
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b9fd448c30224917
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 26 2006 3:00 pm
From: "Feelers"
that's exactly what the bushies are instigating and inciting besides
engineering 9-11..
who knows that cleric must be paid to say what he was told to say...
'aggravating the situation, creating confusion, fomenting hate, instigating
violence..' that's the aim.
<visualseeplus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1143170190.694547.154970@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Your tax dollars could be paying for the rope that hangs this guy.
> Remember that everytime Bush decides to hand over a welfare check to
> Pakistan & afghanistan for 'the war on terror'.
>
> -------------------
>
> Afghan Clerics Demand Convert Be Killed
> By DANIEL COONEY, Associated Press Writer
> Thu Mar 23, 3:17 PM ET
>
> KABUL, Afghanistan - Senior Muslim clerics demanded Thursday that an
> Afghan man on trial for converting from Islam to Christianity be
> executed, warning that if the government caves in to Western pressure
> and frees him, they will incite people to "pull him into pieces."
>
> In an unusual move, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice telephoned
> President Hamid Karzai on Thursday seeking a "favorable resolution" of
> the case of Abdul Rahman. The 41-year-old former medical aid worker
> faces the death penalty under Afghanistan's Islamic laws for becoming
> a Christian.
>
> His trial has fired passions in this conservative Muslim nation and
> highlighted a conflict of values between Afghanistan and its Western
> backers.
>
> "Rejecting Islam is insulting God. We will not allow God to be
> humiliated. This man must die," said cleric Abdul Raoulf, who is
> considered a moderate and was jailed three times for opposing the
> Taliban before the hard-line regime was ousted in 2001.
>
> The trial, which began last week, has caused an international outcry.
> President Bush has said he is "deeply troubled" by the case and
> expects the country to "honor the universal principle of freedom."
>
> Rice spokesman Sean McCormack said she told Karzai it is important for
> the Afghan people to know that freedom of religion is observed in their
> country. But in deference to the country's sovereignty, Rice evidently
> did not demand specifically that the trial be halted and the defendant
> released.
>
> "This is clearly an Afghan decision," McCormack said. "They are a
> sovereign country."
>
> Still, Rice's direct appeal to a foreign leader in a judicial
> proceeding in their own country is an unusual move.
>
> German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters she had received
> assurances from Karzai in a telephone call that Rahman would not be
> sentenced to death.
>
> "I have the impression that he (Karzai) has a firm willingness" to
> abide by the human rights requirements, Merkel said going into pre-
> European Union summit talks. "I hope we will be able to resolve this."
>
> Diplomats have said the Afghan government is searching for a way to
> drop the case. On Wednesday, authorities said Rahman is suspected of
> being mentally ill and would undergo psychological examinations to see
> whether he is fit to stand trial.
>
> But three Sunni preachers and a Shiite one interviewed by The
> Associated Press in four of Kabul's most popular mosques said they do
> not believe Rahman is insane.
>
> "He is not crazy. He went in front of the media and confessed to being
> a Christian," said Hamidullah, chief cleric at Haji Yacob Mosque.
>
> "The government is scared of the international community. But the
> people will kill him if he is freed."
>
> Raoulf, who is a member of the country's main Islamic organization, the
> Afghan Ulama Council, agreed. "The government is playing games. The
> people will not be fooled."
>
> "Cut off his head!" he exclaimed, sitting in a courtyard outside Herati
> Mosque. "We will call on the people to pull him into pieces so there's
> nothing left."
>
> He said the only way for Rahman to survive would be for him to go into
> exile.
>
> But Said Mirhossain Nasri, the top cleric at Hossainia Mosque, one of
> the largest Shiite places of worship in Kabul, said Rahman must not be
> allowed to leave the country.
>
> "If he is allowed to live in the West, then others will claim to be
> Christian so they can too," he said. "We must set an example. ... He
> must be hanged."
>
> The clerics said they were angry with the United States and other
> countries for pushing for Rahman's freedom.
>
> "We are a small country and we welcome the help the outside world is
> giving us. But please don't interfere in this issue," Nasri said. "We
> are Muslims and these are our beliefs. This is much more important to
> us than all the aid the world has given us."
>
> Afghanistan's constitution is based on Shariah law, which is
> interpreted by many Muslims to require that any Muslim who rejects
> Islam be sentenced to death.
>
> Hamidullah warned that if the government frees Rahman, "there will be
> an uprising" like one against Soviet occupying forces in the 1980s.
>
> "The government will lose the support of the people," he said. "What
> sort of democracy would it be if the government ignored the will of all
> the people."
>
> Meanwhile, human rights group Amnesty International said if Rahman has
> been detained solely for his religious beliefs, he would be a "prisoner
> of conscience."
>
> "The charges against him should be dropped and if necessary he should
> be protected against any abuses within the community," the London-based
> group said in a statement.
>
> Rahman is believed to have lived in Germany for nine years after
> converting to Christianity while working as a medical aid worker for an
> international Christian group helping Afghan refugees in Pakistan. He
> returned to Kabul in 2002.
>
> It was not immediately clear when Rahman's trial will resume.
> Authorities have barred attempts by the AP to see him and he is not
> believed to have a lawyer.
>
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TOPIC: Bush shuns Patriot Act requirement
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b5d2c03d1270969a
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 6:57 pm
From: Deaf Power
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:19:07 GMT, GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon
Utopia <gw@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Ray Benson wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:18:22 -0800, Jim E wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You're frothing again, go find your little foil hat, and calm down.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim E
>>
>>
>>
>> Gotta be a government shill. Nobody....no common man....is *that* fucking
>> stupid.
>
>Jim E is really that dumb. He loves having a nanny government spying on him.
True, true. lol.
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https://political.moveon.org/donate/notillegal-QT.html
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TOPIC: GUN NUT OPENS FIRE AT CALIF DENNY'S, KILLS ONE
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cab9e6c5a535051b
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 25 2006 8:01 pm
From: "Neil Boss"
Interesting reply.
0:-> <pohaku.kane@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoWdnTs3wb8oObjZRVn-pQ@scnresearch.com...
>
> I see. You think what we should have learned is not to go. To abandon
> people to despots and killers.
>
Like in Vietnam. Like in Afganistan once the people there were freed from
the USSR in the 80's they were left to the likes on the Taliban. Or Iraq
Saddam was a great friend when he fought against the Iranians even though he
was a dictator. Oh let us not also forget Sudan remember the film Black Hawk
down?
> We learned, alright. We learned how to fight such wars...but then we've
> always been very good at them. We fight to win. Our politicians,
> sometimes, do not.
I am sure you do let us see you win then talk.
> That was Vietnam.
>
> Remember Desert Storm every time you scream, "Remember Vietnam." And
> tell us, what do you see going wrong in Afghanistan?
>
I see nothing wrong there its a great place to holiday these days.
> We never fight wars expecting to take no casualties. Do you? Is that
> your criteria for our "failure?" That we take casualties?
>
> You don't know much about or understand war, do you little child?
The only children I know of are those who keep on getting burnt because they
played with fire not once but many times.
Yes I glad that the Yanks are so brave and are ready to risk their lives to
clean the neighbourhood that they messed up. I think it is wonderful that
you are doing the job saves others from having to do it. We are very
grateful to America ... god save america, they need your help alright.
> Kane 0:->
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Peter Franks <none@none.com> wrote in message
> > news:53VUf.138$Fl.90@fed1read09...
> >
> >> Do you believe in COMPULSION to do what is right?
> >>
> >> We believe in FREEDOM -- allow the individual to choose right from
> >> wrong, and learn from the consequences.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
> to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
> contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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