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* No Israelis parasite please, Libya tells trekkers - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d2979539fe834fe3
* HOW ISRAEL CONTROLS WHAT YOU READ - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/508d9a807a59d05d
* The First Head To Roll In The Semdinli Mystery in Turkey - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2deab2e0bc0eecd2
* Three Ways to Remember Rachel - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6f69fcc00c58349
* so called Jews killed in chili, it is official - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9af95b507f81100b
* Turkey begged Afghan President to add PKK in their terrorist list! - 2
messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/61425e5194925d0e
* A vital safe guard....we do things our way - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/157fea714be95938
* International Stuff - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5d1b6b36a66fef20
* 12 Americans Killed in Chile Bus Accident - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8dab61957a13a216
* British Muslim children being beaten at school - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/65405b4fbb4d48af
* 9/11 - What Really Happened? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e714af3f63ffb309
* Are persons who were born in Africa and now live in America also "African
Americans"? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/54b711da16c782f4
* Palestinians Students Burn Their School - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ea179816fbc1bdd3
* Racism still rife in US, says China - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d9b7345c735cc004
* Find the gene that makes tortoises live so long - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/701480718dbd1532

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TOPIC: No Israelis parasite please, Libya tells trekkers
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d2979539fe834fe3
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 4:20 am
From: "Salah Jafar"

3 Tacos, one Burrito and una Burga for yur mouth.
SJ

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 4:47 am
From: "Mexican Bandolero"

"Salah Jafar" <codeman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3sKUf.14056$vy.1924@trnddc01...
3 Tacos, one Burrito and una Burga for yur mouth.
SJ

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You can't reach your dick Salah Doggie?
Maybe your dick is just few millimeters "long"
Don't worry, that dick is useless anyway.
It serves no purpose whatsoever.
Practice masturbating between serwads leg.
maybe it helps.
MB
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TOPIC: HOW ISRAEL CONTROLS WHAT YOU READ
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/508d9a807a59d05d
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 8:27 pm
From: "Boedicia@isp.com"

Ariadne wrote:
> The State Department wrote:
> > By Marc Parent | bio
> > Harvard Backs Away from "Israel Lobby" Professors; Removes Logo from
> > Controversial Paper
> >
> > [From the anti- American pro-Israel Lobby to you. Pathetic creatures. Thanks
> > for the free advertising]
> >
> > March 22, 2006
> >
> > by Alex Safian
> > Harvard Backs Away from "Israel Lobby" Professors; Removes Logo from
> > Controversial Paper
> > A controversial research report, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy,
> > by Harvard professor Stephen Walt and University of Chicago professor John
> > Mearsheimer, that faults the "Israel lobby" for allegedly distorting the
> > foreign policy of the United States to the detriment of U.S. interests, and
> > which has been severely criticized as inaccurate and wrongheaded, no longer
> > sports the Harvard or Kennedy School of Government logos that previously
> > appeared on its front page.
> >
> > The original first page, with the Harvard and KSG logos, and the usual small
> > disclaimer.The revised first page - no Harvard logos and a much stronger and
> > prominent disclaimer.
>
> Good. I had assumed that Harvard is a very
> good university.

Harvard was founded by an English born and London Baptised Christian
Englishman, John Harvard "For the education of young Englishmen".
As such it
*was* a very good university until the tribe took it over. Now it's
a place where
thousands of jew lawyers are turned out every year with the sole
purpose of
making money by getting the rich guilty off. The jew Dershowitz is
an example
of the type of shyster who should *not* be teaching law at Harvard.
He was one of
those shysters who sat there while the silly token black Johnny
Cochran did his
rap jive before a black jury. He didn't utter one word, so how did
he and all those
other jew lawyers earn their million dollar shekels?

> What happened between your castigation of Blowdoggia
> and these recent posts?

You are a moron and badly in need of mental help. If you are an
example of
the "clever jew" God help the tribe, they are in a worse state than
formerly believed.

"Shyster" - Named for a New York jew named "Sheuster" who was
disbarred
for his disgusting courtroom antics. After watching the O.J. trial,
I can see why.

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TOPIC: The First Head To Roll In The Semdinli Mystery in Turkey
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2deab2e0bc0eecd2
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 4:34 am
From: "Ali Asker"

The First Head To Roll In The Semdinli Mystery

Hurriyet/ Mar 23, 2006

The head of the Turkish Police Bureau's Intelligence Department, Sabri Uzun,
was removed yesterday from his job following a comment regarding the
Semdinli incidents late last year in which he said "When the thief is inside
the house, locks are no good."

The comment provoked a strong reaction from the military at the time, with
the target of the statement widely understood to be the military itself.
Statements made by Uzun in front of the Turkish Parliament's (TBMM) Semdinli
Commission are thought to have opened the way to an atmosphere in Ankara
that favored the idea that the Semdinli gendarmes were involved in the
bombing of the Kurdish-owned Umut Bookstore in Semdinli.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, on his way back to Ankara from Istanbul
yesterday, responded to reporters' questions about Uzun's dismissal from his
posting, commenting only "Leave the reasons up to us.

http://www.kurdistanobserver.com/

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TOPIC: Three Ways to Remember Rachel
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6f69fcc00c58349
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 11:02 pm
From: AnonMoos

clifffreeling@yahoo.com wrote:
>AnonMoos wrote:

>> 1) Burn a flag, while
>> 2) Wearing a phoney pseudo-islamic headscarf, and
>> 3) Shouting your hatred of your own country.

> Nobody decent could love a country run by Zionazis.

That's nice; however, anti-American sentiment doesn't go together very
well with attempting to present Corrie as an idealistic clean-cut
all-American girl -- nor with the relentless cynical attempts by
shameless political opportunists to try to manipulate the Corrie case
into becoming the next mass-media Natalee Holloway affair.

> ------------------- "Don't worry about American pressure on
> Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans
> know it." ----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

That's appropriate for a bigot like you -- use a fabricated phoney
lying quote as your sig!

--
Hamas motto: لا إله لهم
إلا الموت،
«حماس» رسول
الموت (The death-worshipping cult)
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/

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TOPIC: so called Jews killed in chili, it is official
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9af95b507f81100b
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 4:52 am
From: "Mexican Bandolero"

"Salah Jafar" <codeman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mrKUf.14054$vy.4631@trnddc01...
Please Senor 3 tacos, one burrito and una Burga for your mouth.
SJ
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Run around in circles Salah doggie!
Then raise your left leg beside that telephone pole.
PEEEEEEEEEE Salah Doggieeeee! PEEEEEEEEEE
Do it gooood! People in these NG are watching you!
MB
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TOPIC: Turkey begged Afghan President to add PKK in their terrorist list!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/61425e5194925d0e
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 9:06 pm
From: "rick murphy"

"From: Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com)
Subject: Re: Kuwerdish contribution to Oscar 2005
This is the only article in this thread
View: Original Format
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian, soc.culture.kurdish,
soc.culture.turkish, soc.culture.iraq
Date: 2004-10-02 04:55:12 PST

We are the TERRORISTS...

We will divide Iran, Turkey, Syria and Iraq in to the pieces until
ever single individual is free from thought control, torture and
brain-washing! Every nation should have their own land where they can
practice their own culture. Iran has consist of about 20 some
different nations and we will tore them in to 20 different countries
and give mollahs a small land where they can practice their barbaric
religion to themselves and only harm temselves.

WE WILL BREAK IRAN IN TO THE PIECES!!! "

++++++++++++++++++

http://www.turkses.com/index.asp

The Terror Organization KADEK

1. General

Historical Background

The initial activities regarding the terror organization PKK have
started with the intellectual activities of some students defending the
Marxist-Leninist ideology within the Ankara's Democratic Patriotic
Students Association (ADYÖD) under the leadership of Abdullah ÖCALAN
since 1973.

Abdullah ÖCALAN and his friends declared the setting up of the
Kurdistan's Workers Party (PKK) during an illegal meeting held in the
Diyarbakir province, Lice district, Fis village on November 27, 1978
which was called 1 st. Congress.

The inital documents stating PKK's aim were the "The Way Of
Kurdistan's Revolution-Manifesto" and party program published in 1978.
According to the said program, the aim of the terror organization is to
found initially an independent Marxist-Leninist Kurdistan state in the
East and Southeast Anatolian regions in Turkey by using the method of
armed propaganda and to achieve subsequently its final goal of
establishing an "Independent United Kurdistan" through the unification
of the Kurdish states to be founded in neighboring countries.

To this end, the terror organization PKK having officially declared
the commencement of its armed activities following the bloody attacks
on the districts Eruh and Þemdinli on August 15, 1984 has determined
four-stage strategy in order to divide and destroy Turkey by trying to
gather some part of the people, who have been living in peace within
the country for thousands of years, on a separate territory under a
different flag claiming that they have allegedly a different identity.

According to the above-mentioned strategy, it has been intended to;

- Obtain certain cultural and social rights at the first stage,

- Set up an autonomy or another administrative system of federation
type at the second stage,

- Establish the alleged North Kurdistan in our territory at the
third stage and

- Found an independent and united Kurdistan state in the region to
include some parts of Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian territories at the
final stage.

To this end, the terror organization PKK has adopted the method of
separatism-based, three-phased armed propaganda which was called the
war of people, and based on violence directed against the regional
people. Accordingly, the terror organization PKK has aimed at.

- Completing strategic defense stage through armed propaganda,
alleged guerilla war and mobile war operations under the control of its
leading staff within the framework of its ideological ideas in the
first phase,

- Partially completing the process of establishing fronts and an
army and thus, creating the strategic balance which will provide the
balance of power between the security forces and the terror
organization in the second phase and,

- Establishing saved areas in the region after triggering public
risings wherever possible by escalating the conflicts and passing into
strategic attack state when seizing the authority in the third phase,

The terror organization which has increased its armed force over 8
thousand men and raised the violence it has used against the people
regardless of their being women, elder or children to the highest level
from 1992 has not been able to achieve the above-mentioned stages until
today due to the measures taken in accordance with the "Area
Superiority Concept" put into practice from 1994, and the operations
successfully conducted by security forces. As a result, the separatist
terror organization was forced to take the decision of unilateral
ceasefire four times in 1993, 1995, 1998 and finally on September 01,
1999 in order to preserve its terrorist power.

The terror organization desiring to exploit the alleged cease-fire
as an opportunity of recovery for tactical purposes has tried to prove
that it still maintains its existence by continuing its acts and
violence against the civilians and security forces in rural, on the one
hand, carrying out sabotage and bomb attacks in the cities, on the
other hand.

The Turkish Armed Forces has gained an important success in pulling
down the terror organization and its activities to a marginal level
through a successful military operation it has conducted under the
Turkish constitution and legislation to destroy the internal threat, by
acting in a way that ensures the simultaneous implementation of a
series of administrative, social and economic measures taken to prevent
the support being provided to the terror organization.

The last achievement of the Turkish Armed Forces in struggling
against terrorism was that head of the terror organization A. ÖCALAN,
who was deported from Syria, was taken to Turkey following his capture
in Kenya/Nairobi on February 15, 1999 and brought before the
independent court.

The terror organization, tending to resort again to violence during
the period when the head of the terror organization has been taken to
Turkey and brought before the judge, has been able to adapt itself to
the new situation in a short time within the framework of the defense
that head of the terror organization has made in the court and has
tried to reach its goal by exploiting Turkey's EU goal and certain
values such as human rights and democratic rights widely accepted by
the international community. Within the framework of his defense in the
court, the head of the terrorist organization has changed his tactic
and begun to articulate such concepts as "Democratic Republic" and
"Democratic Middle Eastern Union" in its defense to save himself from
capital punishment.

At the VII. Congress of the terror organization held in the Kandil
Mountain region in Iraq on January 02-23, 2000 during which the new
strategy of the terror organization was agreed, it was decided that;

- The armed activities should be resumed in case of execution of
head of the terrorist organization and.

- The Kurdistan's National Liberation Army (ARGK), the alleged
military flank of the terror organization should maintain its existence
under the title of "People Defense Forces (Hezi Parastini Gel-HP) and
the Kurdistan's National Liberation Front (ERNK), the alleged political
flank of the terror organization, which mainly carries out activities
in European countries under the "Kurdish Democratic People Union
(Yekita Democratic A Gele Kurd-YDK) until appropriate legal
arrangements regarding recognition of the Kurdish identity in Turkey
and constitutional guarantees are provided.

The legalization plan that the terror organization has developed
according to its new strategy agreed during its congress, provides for
the followings:

- Giving the message that it is ready to make peace with the
government of Turkish Republic in order to obtain the status of being
recognized as a party in national and international public opinion,

- Handing over some terrorists to the security forces to convince
the public opinion that it is allegedly ready to make peace,

- Making political studies within the People's Democratic Party
(HADEP), which has political connection with the terror organization,
or a similar legal organization, and cooperating with other political
parties,

- Making guiding studies within the municipalities governed by
HADEP to broaden grass roots,

- Having contacts and cooperating with intellectuals from all
circles in Turkey's democratization to ensure the alleged cultural
rights of Kurds being recognized,

- Demanding that the Turkish government should make legal changes
to prove its goodwill through the human rights organizations,

- Bringing up the education in Kurdish language,

- Ensuring the Kurdish identity coming to the fore by focusing on
cultural activities,

- Organizing campaigns in order to ensure the scope of the law of
amnesty being extended,

The terror organization has attempted by its new plan to reach its
final goal that it could not achieve through its armed struggle it has
been carrying out for 16 years, through legalization efforts. To this
end, it has increased its activities it has conducted under the title
of the "Democratic Republic" at home and under "Political Settlement (
Solution ) To The Kurdish Problem" abroad,

In the plan the terror organization developed under the name of
"Peace Project" on March 07, 2000 following the VII. Congress,

- The alleged "Kurdish Problem" and PKK terror are identified with
the Irish, Palestinian, East Timor and Basque problems and it is
requested that the related "Political Solution" initiatives should also
be taken in Turkey and,

- It is put forward that the settlement of the alleged Kurdish
problem in Turkey in accordance with the predictions of head of the
terror organization, Öcalan would also serve the settlement of the
problems in the Middle Eastern countries, and the "Democratic Middle
Eastern Union" to be set up in regional countries would lead to
economic, social and cultural developments,

- Subsequently, in its 2nd "Party Assembly" meeting held in North
Iraq in September 2000, the terror organization decided to be
reorganized to conceal its terrorist identity and began to term its
former structure with innocent titles,

- Assuming that the new strategy of the terror organization could
not be well understood and adopted by its mountain members, the terror
organization held the III. "Party Assembly" meeting between 27 February
and 03 March 2001 and focused on restructuring activities in accordance
with the decisions it took during the said meeting. In addition, the
terror organization, having assessed that the people movement
activities could not achieve the desired level, has intensified its
efforts to ensure its new strategy being accepted by its members and
supporters through a series of meetings.

In this context;

* The "Centralized Propaganda and Media Conference" was held
between 29 May and 07 June 2001 in order for the efforts in the media
field, that the terror organization considers to be insufficient, and
to reach an organized structure,

* The "1st Public Movement Conference" was held between 20 June and
02 July 2001 for the purpose of carrying out the acts and activities
the terror organization has started under the name of alleged 2nd Peace
Efforts, in a more organized manner through its supporters and
sympathizers who are directed by the front organizations,

* The "1st Public Defense Forces (HPG), Conference" was held
between 28 June and 12 July 2001 in order to develop a new structure by
making radical changes in the armed flank of the terror organization
from the armed group order and discipline to war tactics and
techniques,

* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,

* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,

* The "6th National Conference" was held on August 05-22, 2001
under the leadership of the alleged Supreme Council of the terror
organization in order to coordinate the conferences to be held in line
with the activities the terror organization carries out in various
fields and to direct all organizational efforts towards public
movements,

- The above-mentioned conferences have drawn special attention as
the ones which have been held within the framework of preparations for
the 8th Congress of the terror organization PKK. According to the
decisions taken during the said conferences, various campaigns have
been organized primarily in Europe and subsequently in Turkey for the
purpose of gaining support for the requests of constitutional
recognition of the Kurdish identity and the use of Kurdish language as
the language of education. However, the terror organization has not
been able to reach the desired level of participation by the people.

- On the other hand, the terror organization has focused on
re-establishment of the terrorist groups not directly affected by the
security forces and on their armed training in raid, laying ambush and
sabotage. The disagreements arising within the terror organization,
PKK-KPU conflict and escape of nearly five hundred Syrian terrorists
from the terror organization in particular have been the noticeable
problems that the terror organization has faced within the period under
review.

- In the meantime, the defense that head of the terror organization
has developed for his trial lasting in the European Court of Human
Rights has been printed by the terrorist organization in a two-volume
book under the title of "From the Sumerian Monastic State To The
Democratic Republic", accepted as the second manifesto and begun to be
used as a guide document for all activities carried out by the terror
organization and as a basic document in the ideological training of the
terrorist organization's members and supporters.

- The 8th Congress preparations which have lasted for a long time
in accordance with the outline of the said defense of head of the
terrorist organization was held in the Kandil Mountain region in
Northern Iraq on April 04-10, 2002 with the participation of 285
terrorist's 106 of whom were women and 179 men as well as about 100
audiences,

- In the said congress during which the activities the terror
organization PKK has conducted in the past and report developed
according to the defense of head of the terror organization and
submitted to the congress have also been evaluated, it has been pointed
out that;

* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,

* However, the ideology and modus operandi adopted by the terror
organization at the beginning have failed due to the collapse of the
former Soviet system and the anti-terror environment arising following
the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the US and,

* It has been the time that PKK would be replaced by a completely
new formation in order not to be included in the list of terrorist
organizations, and it must undergo restructuring beginning from its
ideology to its lowest-level units, including a change in its
organizational title,

* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,

* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,

* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,

- During its 8th Congress, the terror organization has stated that
PKK's role has ended under current circumstances and decided that;

* It will not use the title "PKK" in the activities it carries out
in every field from April 04, 2002 when the birthday of head of the
terrorists is,

* It will conduct its activities under the title "Kurdistan's
Freedom and Democracy Congress-KADEK" from now on in accordance with a
new program, statute and organization based on the solution of Kurdish
problem in line with the main points of the defense that head of the
terrorists has submitted to the European Court of Human Rights within
the existing borders in four countries,

* PKK considers KADEK as its sole legal representative and disposes
of its moral and physical acquisitions to KADEK. The terror
organization made a press conference in Belgium/Brussels on April 16,
2000 and publicized its decisions.

- In the meantime, the fact that the inclusion of the PKK in the
list of terrorist organizations developed by the European Union member
nations which was issued on May 4, 2002 has led the members of the
terrorist organizations into great concern regarding the possible
inclusion of KADEK in the list of terrorist organizations. For this
reason, the terror organization has immediately begun to make protests
against such nations as Denmark, Spain, the UK who have had an effect
on the related decision-making,

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 9:20 pm
From: "umu"

> Afghan President to speak at first session of anti-terrorism symposium
>
> A meeting on anti-terrorism is due to get underway in Ankara today, and will
> among other key world figures, play host to the Afghan President Hamid
> Karzai, who arrived in Turkey on Wednesday. Karzai, a key note speaker, is
> due to speak at the opening session of the symposium on Thursday morning.
>
> Also expected to be a key figure at the first session of four, Turkish Chief
> of General Staff Gen. Hilmi Ozkok, will speak at the conference on "Global
> Terrorism and International Cooperation Against Terrorism."
>
> Senior Civilian Representative of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization
> (NATO) in Afghanistan Hikmet Cetin arrived in Ankara by the same plane with
> Karzai. Cetin is also to attend the symposium.
>
> Also to participate in the symposium will be senior officials from the US,
> South Korea and Mediterranean countries. Karzai, who will take the floor in
> the Thursday morning session of the symposium, is expected to depart from
> Ankara at noon.
>
> Turkey and Afghanistan have maintained close relations and Karzai, visiting
> Turkey in January, has been the first Afghan president to pay a visit to
> Turkey since 1957.
>
> Ankara has supported the U.S. efforts to oust the Taliban regime in
> Afghanistan and currently has about 200 soldiers in the international
> peacekeeping mission there.
>
> http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/4131852.asp?gid=74

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TOPIC: A vital safe guard....we do things our way
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/157fea714be95938
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 1:11 pm
From: Dave Baker

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:45:39 +0800, "kingkong" <thumbdownnow@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>In Thailand, Thaksin was a billionaire before he became a politican

Yeah, while he was a cop! :-)

Dave

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 1:16 pm
From: Dave Baker

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:03:18 +0800, "....lobert...." <lobert@..> wrote:

>Dave Baker wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:54:29 +0800, "Bad boy" <badboy_sinland@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Dave Baker" <newsgroup_poster@jodael.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4jh622hssj6i3ov238q1k4tin6v4pr6qnm@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:48:56 +0800, "Bad boy" <badboy_sinland@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In the Singapore culture, it is vital that top
>>>>> jobs are not given to people which can be
>>>>> exploited for corruption.
>>>> Would Thaksin get a job as P.M.? :-)
>>> Learn to debate first....before you ask a question!
>>
>>
>> So, this is your tactic to avoid answering questions? Fairly childish.
>>
>
>Bad Boy only said that "it is vital" not it has never happened.

Ok, no argument there. He still didn't answer the question though. Instead he
acts like the village idiot.

>Thaksin is definitely better than any of the Singapore ministers.

Any? Geez!

Dave

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TOPIC: International Stuff
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5d1b6b36a66fef20
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 5:16 am
From: "marika"

"Frank Kalder" <editor@haplif.de> wrote in message
news:1143098749.752444.166250@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...

[Janelle Monáe]
>
> "all those people inspired me to be unique. at the end of the day, you
> don't have to sell sex"--singer janelle monáe on her singing role models

www.janellemonae.com

Wow, is she gorgeous!
Cute photos in her gallery - impressive biography!
Porn star hits it big as wine-maker
By Daniel Trotta Wed Mar 22, 2:06 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - It seemed like the perfect gimmick: a celebrity
porn star would launch her own wine, with her alluring picture on the
label.

Savanna Samson did just that, but when it received a score of 90 to 91
out of 100 by wine guru Robert Parker, the project became serious. It
turns out Samson, the star of "The New Devil in Miss Jones," has
produced an exceptional wine, becoming the toast of two industries:
wine-making and pornography.

"I never wanted to just do gimmick. That would just happen with me being
a porn star, me having a photographer shoot the label, how risque could
I get on the label -- all those things," Samson, the stage name for
31-year-old Natalie Oliveros, said in an interview.

The seriousness of the idea was lining up a respected wine maker. So she
convinced Italy's Robert Cipresso -- also a vintner to the Vatican -- to
join the project.

Samson went to Tuscany and tasted dozens of Cipresso's Italian-grown
varieties, then she selected a mix of 70 percent Cesanese, 20 percent
Sangiovese and 10 percent Montepulciano. She ordered over 400 cases.

"I knew I wanted Roberto to make my wine -- I just love his passion for
wine," said Samson.

The result is Sogno Uno, a 2004 vintage of an Italian red wine packaged
under the Savanna name with a label of Samson in a see-through gown. It
was launched last month.

Parker has been called the most influential wine critic in the world,
and a score of 90 to 95 denotes "an outstanding wine of exceptional
complexity and character."

"Trust me, I didn't add any points for Ms. Samson's personal
presentation," Parker wrote in his review.

NAUGHTY AND SPICE

Samson is one of the biggest names in pornography, having won best
actress in the Adult Video News Awards (AVN), the pornographic
equivalent of the Oscars, and another AVN Award for a scene she shared
with Jenna Jameson in last year's "The Masseuse." She has made two dozen
porn flicks.

The wine "really represents who I am," said Samson.

"There's spiciness -- the Cesanese has the naughty side of me. And yet
it's an elegant wine. I love the opera, and I'm a classically trained
ballet dancer. And there is some chocolate undertone, which I just love.
There's a little bit of sweetness. Like, 10 percent of the time I'm
sweet," she said.

She is working on a white wine -- Sogno Due -- that could be out later
this year, and also has ideas of expanding into champagne, ice wine and
grappa.

Samson, who was raised Catholic in upstate New York, said it was pure
coincidence that Cipresso also sells wines to the Vatican. She met him
through her husband, a wine merchant.

"My priest said in Mass once, 'Violence or pleasures of the flesh. What
is the greater of two evils?' I think we all know the answer. I felt
like he was saying that toward me," she said.

Still, she never had her parent's blessing for her career choice as an
adult movie star. "They were so devastated. They were terribly, terribly
upset."

But while she will continue her film career, wine-making may offer some
redemption. "I wanted to do something that my parents could be proud
of," she said.
--

mk5000

"a nice chianti"--hannibal lecter

==============================================================================
TOPIC: 12 Americans Killed in Chile Bus Accident
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8dab61957a13a216
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 9:24 pm
From: "Big Black Man" <13inchesofpain@bbm.com>

Hey dildo, this yank is for you. bend over lover.

<home.home1@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:1143162364.686634.170090@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Islam Will Replace Collapsing Amerikan Empire wrote:
>> 12 Americans Killed in Chile Bus Accident
>>
>> By EDUARDO GALLARDO, Associated Press Writer 3 minutes ago
>>
>> SANTIAGO, Chile - A tourist bus swerved to avoid an approaching truck and
>> tumbled 300 feet down a mountainside in northern Chile, killing 12
>> Americans, U.S. and Chilean officials said.
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060323/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/chile_tourist_bus_crash
>
>
> Is that all? no more details?
>
> I would have liked to have had some brilliant news like
> they suffered greatly before they died.
>
> So 12 fuckers died quickly boring
> 12 fuckers suffered badly brilliant..
> http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3488/chosen8yd.gif
>
>
> 1980s
> There's been a bomb in Oxford Street! And in the
> days before Al'Qaeda, there's only one prime suspect.
> U.S.A sponsoring terrorists as always.
>
> The U.S.A has sponsored every terrorist organisation in the world.
> One way or another throughout history the U.S.A as attempted
> to kill you.
>
> http://www.itnarchive.com/video/conflict2.ram
> VIDED BROADBAND
>
> http://www.itnarchive.com/video/conflict.ram
> VIdeo Modem
>
>
> The only good yank is a dead yank kill the fucker and do the world a
> favour.
>
> http://media.putfile.com/On-The-Streets-Of-America-3
> It shows you just how backward yanks are pathetic fucking yanks.
> ____________________________
> ID signature
> Freedom, if you don't use it you lose it.
> Philip Davidson,
> 10 Ronald Avenue
> West Ham
> E15 3AH
> East London
> Mobile phone 07906821566
> http://philipdavidson.blogspot.com/
>

==============================================================================
TOPIC: British Muslim children being beaten at school
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/65405b4fbb4d48af
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 5:41 am
From: Orange Sunshine

habshi wrote...
> The potential scale of the abuse has led to fears among Muslim leaders
> that Britain's Mosque-based schools will face the kind of child abuse
> claims that has recently scandalised the Roman Catholic Church.
>
> Up to 100,000 children are taught at 700 Islamic schools, or
> madrassas, of which almost a half use unlawful corporal punishment to
> discipline pupils, says the report into child protection published
> today by the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain. The authors also warn
> that each year at least a dozen children are sexually abused by their
> teachers and Imans with very few cases ever being made public.

I'm just surprised that it stops at corporal punishment and sexual abuse.
Aren't naughty children stoned to death in izlamist societies?

==============================================================================
TOPIC: 9/11 - What Really Happened?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e714af3f63ffb309
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 5:43 am
From: Yosemite Sam

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:06:35 -0500, "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>WTC Construction Certifiers Say Towers Should Have Easily Withstood Jet
>Fuel Temperatures

Guess they were wrong, hard to real world test those kind of things.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Are persons who were born in Africa and now live in America also "
African Americans"?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/54b711da16c782f4
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 9:50 pm
From: "sawa"

....perhaps it is best just to call them by name....e.g Richard etc etc

"David Johnstone" <david_ffm@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1143125582.482365.132470@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> > We have whites in africa....and they are called 'white africans'...or
> > 'africans' for short.
>
> Wouldn't it be consistant with the US nomenclature to call them
> "European Africans", or maybe "Asian Africans"? ;-)
>
> Wouldn't that also make "white" Americans properly called
> (for example) "European Americans"?
>
> > So If they emigrate to the USA then they could be
> > called 'white african americans' or 'african americans' for short.
>
> Or maybe "European African Americans"?
>
> Or if the family also spent some time down under maybe there
> could even be some "European Australian African Americans" or
> "Asian Australian African Americans"?
>
> Will we ever reach the point where nobody cares anymore?!
>
> David
>

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Palestinians Students Burn Their School
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ea179816fbc1bdd3
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 9:51 pm
From: "docremington"

Palestinians students burn their school
Security Chaos and Proliferation of Small Arms
Attacking Public Institutions and Officials
Field Update
23 March 2006
In the first attack of its kind
A School Burned in Gaza on the Backdrop of Armed Clashes A group of
about 50 students burned the ground floor of the Nile Secondary School
for Boys in Tal El-Hawa neighborhood in Gaza City. The arson took place
on the backdrop of clashes between Palestinian police and a clan in the
Gaza.
PCHR's initial investigation indicates that at approximately 8:30 in
Thursday, 23 March 2006, a group of 50 students thought to be members
of the clans that were took part in the armed clashes with the police
the day before burned the school in protest over the clashes, which led
to the death of Eyad Mohammad El-Deiri.[1]
The fire was caused by burning tires placed by the students at the door
of the principal's office and secretary's office. The fire burned the
two offices and guards' room completely. In addition, other parts of
the ground floor were damaged. The students left the school after
taking a computer with them.
PCHR learned that the school administration had decided to suspend
school today, fearing the repetition or escalation of the clashes that
took place on Wednesday.
PCHR is concerned about the continuation of these dangerous attacks,
which constitute a continuum of the state of security chaos in the
Occupied Palestinian Territory. The Centre reiterates its call upon the
PNA, represented by the Attorney-General, to investigate these attacks,
and to bring the perpetrators to justice.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 10:00 pm
From: "DoD"

"docremington" <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote in message
news:1143179499.175237.265600@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Palestinians students burn their school
> Security Chaos and Proliferation of Small Arms
> Attacking Public Institutions and Officials
> Field Update
> 23 March 2006
> In the first attack of its kind
> A School Burned in Gaza on the Backdrop of Armed Clashes A group of
> about 50 students burned the ground floor of the Nile Secondary School
> for Boys in Tal El-Hawa neighborhood in Gaza City. The arson took place
> on the backdrop of clashes between Palestinian police and a clan in the
> Gaza.
> PCHR's initial investigation indicates that at approximately 8:30 in
> Thursday, 23 March 2006, a group of 50 students thought to be members
> of the clans that were took part in the armed clashes with the police
> the day before burned the school in protest over the clashes, which led
> to the death of Eyad Mohammad El-Deiri.[1]
> The fire was caused by burning tires placed by the students at the door
> of the principal's office and secretary's office. The fire burned the
> two offices and guards' room completely. In addition, other parts of
> the ground floor were damaged. The students left the school after
> taking a computer with them.
> PCHR learned that the school administration had decided to suspend
> school today, fearing the repetition or escalation of the clashes that
> took place on Wednesday.
> PCHR is concerned about the continuation of these dangerous attacks,
> which constitute a continuum of the state of security chaos in the
> Occupied Palestinian Territory. The Centre reiterates its call upon the
> PNA, represented by the Attorney-General, to investigate these attacks,
> and to bring the perpetrators to justice.

Usually I wish I had a link. But to date you have never given anything to
doubt..... so if true, the only thing I am wondering if the religious police
kept the school girls in the building for not wearing the veil..... like
they did in Saudi Arabia a few years back......

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Racism still rife in US, says China
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d9b7345c735cc004
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 9:57 pm
From: "sawa"

I have chopped off both your arms and legs...so this must be your default
behaviour....

"LEROY KNEVIL" <leroy@klavern.org> wrote in message
news:44229faa$0$3632$6d36acad@fe3.nntpserver.com...
> PUT IT UP YOUR BLACK NIGGER ASS YOU JENKEM ABUSER!
>
> sawa wrote:
> >
http://img.search.yahoo.com/search/images?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=scat%20porn
> >
> > How do you want me to put it...........dickhead.....
> >
> >
> > "LEROY KNEVIL" <leroy@klavern.org> wrote in message
> > news:442241de$0$3629$6d36acad@fe3.nntpserver.com...
> >
> >>A JENKEM HEAD NIGGER SAYING SOMEONE ELSE EATS SHIT??????????????
> >>
> >>sawa wrote:
> >>
> >>>Answer the question dickhead......your kind are known to eat shit just
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>make a living!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"LEROY KNEVIL" <leroy@klavern.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:44200456$0$3639$6d36acad@fe3.nntpserver.com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>is jenkem your drug of choice?
> >>>>
> >>>>sawa wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>......was 'slavery' the only word you could read......
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"LEROY KNEVIL" <leroy@klavern.org> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:441eb265$0$3630$6d36acad@fe3.nntpserver.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>WHERE ARE THESE SO CALLED SLAVES AT YOU LIBERAL JENKEM ABUSER?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>sawa wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Well said Zuo! Keep it up.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Zuo Tung" <ztjt@newdeal.org> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:dva9kk$1ff8$1@agate.berkeley.edu...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Africans are not hated universally because of their culture and
> >>>
> >>>actions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> What has happened is that over the last couple of centuries the
> >>>>>>>>people have been put into social-economic situations which have
> >
> > caused
> >
> >>>>>>>>generations to pass on the causatum of poverty, desperation, and
> >>>>>>>>anti-social behavior. Slavery, racism, the forced prevention of
> >>>
> >>>social
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>class mobility, has its consequences. What I believe is that
those
> >>>>>>>>responsible for its creation, must be responsible for its
> >
> > correction.
> >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Yenc wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Hey Ben Dan..
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Niggers are hated universally because their culture and action.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>You must be a nigger too.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"dunbother" <nomail@nomail.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>news:mn.807b7d6300bf8f30.50556@nomail.net...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Yenc expressed precisely :
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Are you Chinese? Living in China?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Didn't think so
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Niggers are hated here..and the parents DO CARE!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>One child policy.. a nigger? failed culture, stares? Parents
> >
> > MUST
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>approve who their daughter marries dunce-cap, did you ever pass
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>Chinese Mother dating test?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>A stupid nigger with a doctorate degree from an African
shithole
> >
> > or
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>Affirmative Action flunky USA degree does not cut it with the
> >>>>>>>>>>>Upper-Middle class Chinese. A high paying flunky working for
the
> >
> > US
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>Embassy (that was hired under AA for 100K a year) is still
> >>>
> >>>considered
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>failure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Even the Sichuan 700 Rmb a year farm family girl's parents
would
> >>>
> >>>not
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>allow a nigger into the family.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Who are you kidding?
> >>>>>>>>>>>Korea is even worse...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Niggers are hated because their culture is based on failure,
> >>>
> >>>violence
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>garbage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>When you see shit you associate the shit with all shit and do
not
> >>>>>
> >>>>>bend
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>over to smell the turd to see if it stinks or not, you
> >>>
> >>>automatically
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>call
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>it shit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Politically Correct I am not, and the truth hurts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>"dunbother" <nomail@nomail.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>news:mn.7bee7d632f37c94b.50556@nomail.net...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>After serious thinking beernuts wrote :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Zuo Tung wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's true. Racism does exist except that white people don't
> >>>
> >>>want
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>believe it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sure it does, just watch the face of a Asian mom when their
> >>>>>
> >>>>>daughter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>says she's marrying an African American....oh, I forgot,
that's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>just
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>"protecting their culture".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Yeah...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Not true. A friend of mine went out with a black dude, and her
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>parents
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>didn't care as soon they found out he was educated,
professional
> >>>
> >>>and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>treated her ok. Let's face it, the same could easily be said
for
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>white
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>folks too. Its just that in America, having a "colored" spouse
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>usually
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>means the end of your career or political life, while in
Chinese
> >>>>>>>>>>>>societies, that might actually work out to be a plus since it
> >
> > can
> >
> >>>be
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>looked upon as something "special". The whole "protect the
> >>>
> >>>culture"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>stuff is crap these days in the global society, maybe except
for
> >>>>>
> >>>>>some
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>feudal or backwoods type on both sides of the Pacific. Btw,
the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>cantonese "lost all contact with mainland" type ABCs are NOT
> >>>>>>>>>>>>representative of modern Chinese society in Asia, and the same
> >
> > can
> >
> >>>>>be
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>said for trailer park inbreeds versus their more evolved
species
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>living
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>in NYC or Chicago, or gawd forbid, London and Paris. On a
> >>>
> >>>political
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>note, the PRC does pose a valid point. You can't chide the
human
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>rights
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>record of others when you're merrily trampling on the rights
of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>minorities in daily life in your own country, not to mention
> >
> > your
> >
> >>>>>>>full
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>blown scandals of widespread torture in the middle east,
secret
> >>>>>>>>>>>>kidnapping flights in Europe, contravention of the Geneva
Treaty
> >>>>>>>>>>>>initiated and scantioned at the highest level of government
> >
> > (which
> >
> >>>>>>>kinda
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>reminds me of how US pows used to tell waffen SS units they
had
> >>>>>>>>>>>>protection under the terms of the Geneva Treaty, only to be
> >>>
> >>>tortured
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>machine gunned for their efforts at Malmedy, O how the tables
> >
> > have
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>turned!), Guantanamo, domestic wire-tapping, so on and so
forth.
> >
> > I
> >
> >>>>>am
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>not saying these practises are "wrong", just that if you go
down
> >>>>>
> >>>>>that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>path, dun take the moral high ground w.r.t. the practises of
> >
> > other
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>sovereign states since you already vacated it anyway! After
what
> >>>
> >>>has
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>transpired over the years, Americans have discounted a great
> >
> > deal
> >
> >>>of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>moral premium they acquired since the days of the Marshall
Plan.
> >>>
> >>>Too
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>bad!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >
____________________________________________________________________________
> >
> >>>>>>>___
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.uncensored-news.com
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> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>?????dunno what's your problem with blacks...you making it out
as
> >
> > if
> >
> >>>>>>>black
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>guys so hated in china, but that's just a reflection of american
> >>>>>>>>>>mainstream values anyway...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >
____________________________________________________________________________
> >
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>><><><><><><><><>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>> *JENKEM IS THE PREFERRED DRUG FOR NIGGERS
> >>>>>> BAGS OF RAW SEWAGE PLACED OVER THEIR NAPPY HEADS
> >>>>>> GIVES THEM THE HIGH THEY WILL KILL FOR.
> >>>>>> DO YOU KNOW ANY OTHER RACE THAT IS SO FUCKED UP AS TO
> >>>>>> SNIFF SHIT FOR RECREATION!!?
> >>>>>> THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE YELLOW EYES AND BLUE GUMS.
> >>>>>> THE NIGGER RACE HAS SUNK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEPTIC TANK!
> >>>>>> *I KNEW I WAS ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT NIGGERS*.
> >>>>>> PROOF
POSITIVE:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/406067.stm
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>> *JENKEM IS THE PREFERRED DRUG FOR NIGGERS
> >>>> BAGS OF RAW SEWAGE PLACED OVER THEIR NAPPY HEADS
> >>>> GIVES THEM THE HIGH THEY WILL KILL FOR.
> >>>> DO YOU KNOW ANY OTHER RACE THAT IS SO FUCKED UP AS TO
> >>>> SNIFF SHIT FOR RECREATION!!?
> >>>> THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE YELLOW EYES AND BLUE GUMS.
> >>>> THE NIGGER RACE HAS SUNK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEPTIC TANK!
> >>>> *I KNEW I WAS ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT NIGGERS*.
> >>>> PROOF POSITIVE:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/406067.stm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>--
> >> *JENKEM IS THE PREFERRED DRUG FOR NIGGERS
> >> BAGS OF RAW SEWAGE PLACED OVER THEIR NAPPY HEADS
> >> GIVES THEM THE HIGH THEY WILL KILL FOR.
> >> DO YOU KNOW ANY OTHER RACE THAT IS SO FUCKED UP AS TO
> >> SNIFF SHIT FOR RECREATION!!?
> >> THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE YELLOW EYES AND BLUE GUMS.
> >> THE NIGGER RACE HAS SUNK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEPTIC TANK!
> >> *I KNEW I WAS ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT NIGGERS*.
> >> PROOF POSITIVE:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/406067.stm
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> *JENKEM IS THE PREFERRED DRUG FOR NIGGERS
> BAGS OF RAW SEWAGE PLACED OVER THEIR NAPPY HEADS
> GIVES THEM THE HIGH THEY WILL KILL FOR.
> DO YOU KNOW ANY OTHER RACE THAT IS SO FUCKED UP AS TO
> SNIFF SHIT FOR RECREATION!!?
> THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE YELLOW EYES AND BLUE GUMS.
> THE NIGGER RACE HAS SUNK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEPTIC TANK!
> *I KNEW I WAS ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT NIGGERS*.
> PROOF POSITIVE:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/406067.stm

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TOPIC: Find the gene that makes tortoises live so long
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/701480718dbd1532
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Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 9:58 pm
From: ohush@unc.edu

visualseeplus@yahoo.com wrote:
> A sloth lives 30 to 40 yrs which is reasonably long compared to other
> mammals like monkeys.
>
> I think it has to do with metabolism. The slower the metabolism, the
> longer the creature lives. Look at dogs, their heartbeat is so fast
> and so is their breathing rate. The result is they age 7x faster than
> humans. Any animal with a naturally high metabolism (excluding humans)
> will die an early death.
>
> Thus the brighter the candle burns, the quicker the flame is
> extinguished.

Oh, bullshit. Parrots have normal heart rates well over 200 and they
live about as long as humans (normal human HR is 60 to 100). Besides
that, little dogs' hearts beat faster than big dogs' hearts, and little
dogs live about twice as long as big dogs on average.

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