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Today's topics:
* US Should Not Recognize Kadima Unless Kadima Recognizes Palestines Right To
Exist, Respects International Law and Ends The Illegal Occupation - 6 messages,
3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c8ade91b0cf4278f
* Jobs That Americans Won't Do ?? Think Again - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5f87ba45eaeed9fb
* MURDER OF RACHEL CORRIE, AN AMERICAN HEROINE - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/230b20b958a3d3ba
* Affirmative action should be instituted in ALL college and professional
sports! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9289b2c8aa36603f
* ken AND kaHER NAME IS THE LOWLIFES OF THE INTERNET - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/be9036f2f5a59f35
* Illegal Hispanic Immigration & rally in LA - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/965a78900803abba
* GOVERNMENTS MUST RESPECT MINORITY RIGHTS TO BE RIGHTEOUS - Afghanistan and
China take heed! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d0843135830a26cf
* About Canadian pedophiles JF Mezei and Darrell Larose - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/98b8b82dacbd0be4
* My Recent Trip to London - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a49283aa39753c71
* We're FRICKED, peoplez !!!!!!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6b3ac486f8a62a5e
* People's Association (PA) has just retrenched those lowly paid employees - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c509d55ad9c46b3b
* Photos of the Great Los Angeles March and Student Walkouts! - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2497b7d02d327327
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TOPIC: US Should Not Recognize Kadima Unless Kadima Recognizes Palestines
Right To Exist, Respects International Law and Ends The Illegal Occupation
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c8ade91b0cf4278f
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 5:20 pm
From: "docremington"
Theodore Herzl wrote:
> The US should demand that Israel recognizes Palestine's right to exist,
>
Of course, Thermodore, palisimians exist, as well as their palistan
with its hamasistan, they do not need no recognition.
> respects International Law
Which one exactly, Thermodore? And how many of those international laws
are out there?
> and ends The illegal occupation.
There is no occupation, Thermodore. Even the ICJ knows it, but is
afraid to tell. There is only an occupational occupation of the
occupationally occupied palisimians.
> Israel is
> a today simply a terrorist organization that has recently murdered over
> 3,000 innocent Palestinians as part of its state sponsored campaign of
> terrorism, ethnic cleansing and illegal settlement construction.
Evidently, Thermodore, jihads, intifadas and running around like crazy
with an AK are a high-risk occupation. They should have been occupied
with road-building, garbage collection and suchlike.
> The
> US's support for a regime that sponsors terrorism like Israel is
> against US laws that forbid providing aid or
Or?
> It is time for the US to throw out its pro-Israeli bias and replace it
> with a foreign policy rooted in the principals of International Law or
> it risks further alienating the Arab world and turning Iraq into a
> quagmire that makes Vietnam look like a walk in the park. The US
> needs Arab support and aid if it ever expects to get out of the money
> sucking mess the US has made for itself in Iraq, and thus must rethink
> its support for the rogue Israeli regime in light of that reality.
Interesting, Thermodore, and what support can arabs possibly provide to
the US?
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 5:32 pm
From: "docremington"
nbatra@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> > Since Palestine does not exist there are no
> > Palestinians. We have told you this often.
>
> They are stateless people. In this way, Palestinians can exist even
> though Palestine is not yet fully established.
>
They are not "stateless people", they do not belong to a distinct
ethnic group, the WB palisimians, who lived there before 1994, have
jordanian citizenship and are, formally, jordanians. They have Jordan,
they have palistan-hamasistan and want a VIP pass to Israel too.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 5:48 pm
From: nbatra@sbcglobal.net
docremington wrote:
> nbatra@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> > > Since Palestine does not exist there are no
> > > Palestinians. We have told you this often.
> >
> > They are stateless people. In this way, Palestinians can exist even
> > though Palestine is not yet fully established.
> >
>
>
> They are not "stateless people", they do not belong to a distinct
> ethnic group, the WB palisimians, who lived there before 1994, have
> jordanian citizenship and are, formally, jordanians. They have Jordan,
> they have palistan-hamasistan and want a VIP pass to Israel too.
They live in refugee camps, so formal statuses notwithstanding, they
are currently de-facto stateless. Going to work in Israel and coming
back does not give one a state, and Jordan is by no means their state
either. The creation of a State of Palestine is essential for these
refugees.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 6:09 pm
From: "docremington"
Theodore Herzl wrote:
> Norma wrote:
> > "Ariadne" <ariadne.mac@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1143587377.443752.31780@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > AntiZioNazi@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > Ariadne wrote:
> > > > > A stupid title that merits deconstruction.
> > > > >
> > > > > USA cannot refuse to recognise a democratically
> > > > > constituted and elected political party.
> > > >
> > > > Yes it can. Kadima was not elected by all who live under Israeli
> > > > rule, only those who live in the ethnically cleansed ares are allowed
> > > > to vote. That is apartheid not democracy airheadne dear.
> > > >
> > > > > Palestine does not exist and therefore it cannot
> > > > > have its right to exist recognised.
> > > >
> > > > By your own statement above, since it does not exist, the Palestinians
> > > > are then disenfranchised non-Jewish Israelis.
> > >
> > > Since Palestine does not exist there are no
> > > Palestinians. We have told you this often.
> >
> > They do exist by pure political definition, but they have no country at this
> > time. And if Kadima wins, and it looks like it might, the borders will be
> > determined by Israel alone. Hamas had plenty of opportuniyt to rescind
> > their stance on Israel and to negotiate, but they chose not to. Someone had
> > to make the cut, so it will stay with Israel--just where it should be.
>
> Baloney Norma, racist bigots like yourself have been refusing to
> recognize the Palestinians right to exist for decades, so you are in no
> position to dictate jack squat.
>
As I mentioned here, palisimians palisimians exist, as well as their
palistan with its hamasistan, they do not need no recognition.
Besides, Thermodore, Israel proposed an autonomy plan for Gaza and WB
palisimians in 1979 after a Camp David agreements with Egypt, by
offering a 5-year transitional self-rule, followed by direct
negotiations, without preconditions, between all relevant parties, on
the final status of Gaza and the WB, including statehood, borders,
refugees. Palisimians refused it and have been occupied with oppressing
everybody with their collective self ever since.
> You and you ZioNazi buddies will soon find out that regardless of
> Kadimas political rhetoric during the elections, the Israeli regime
> will not be allowed to unilaterally declare its borders or keep the
> illegal settlements built beyond the Green Line.
How can a so-called settlement be illegal, if the land itself is
disputed, Thermodore?
> No reason to argue Norma, just you wait and see how quick Kadima
> softens its own rhetoric.
>
> > > > > Israel respects international law. Arabs do not.
> > > >
> > > > Israel is one of the biggest violators of International laws,
> > >
> > > You lie
> >
> > Israel does, but Hamas doesn't. Thermodore never gets it right, but he
> > won't listen to any truths at all.
>
> Israeli violates International laws on a daily basis and is currently
> in violation of 160+ UN resolutions, the International Court of Justice
> and the IV Geneva Convention, so for you to even say that only proves
> that you are a liar, but what is new eh?
Thermodore, we reviewed the ICJ before, didn't we? Let us review that
famous ICJ ruling.
A.) The ICJ ruled that, it had jurisdiction over the case, and that it
involved only a dispute between Israel and the UN, rather than a
dispute between Israel and palisimians.
B.) The ICJ ruled that, provisions of the international law regarding
israeli right of self defense are inapplicable, since there is no state
involved other than Israel.
C.) The ICJ ruled that the West Bank is occupied territory.
D.) Thus, we have a ridiculous situation, in which the ICJ holds that,
there exists an armed conflict, and that the territories are occupied
territories of another state; and at the same time the ICJ asserts
that, Israel has no right to defend itself in that conflict, because
there is no other state involved.
> > > > why do
> > > > you think the IDF leaders are all wanted war criminals
> > >
> > > You lie.
> >
> > > > and cannot leave
> > > > the Israeli regime for fear of being arrested.
> > >
> > > They will be able to come to Britain soon when the
> > > jihadi lawyers are sorted out. And they are being
> > > sorted out.
> > >
> > > > > There is no illegal occupation.
> > > >
> > > > Don't try to convince me,
> > >
> > > How could I? You do not live on my planet and
> > > you know nothing of truth.
> > > > you have to tell the UN
> > >
> > > The Unclean Nazis
> > >
> > > > and the rest of the
> > > > international community
> > >
> > > You mean the pro-Arab terrorist propagandising part...
> > >
> > > No point in going on about that non-existent place...
> >
> > They have given over any hope of a country, just as they always do, in hopes
> > that it will be granted by "someone". Unfortunately that group of people
> > will never listen and never learn to be consistent with anyone else. No
> > wonder their Muslim brothers desert them. The Arabs want them the least...
>
> It is not a matter of it being granted Norma, as neither you or your
> ZioNazi friends are in the power to grant squat. The UN Security
> Council Resolution 242 needs only to be enforced and they get their
> homeland back and you and your racist ZioNazis will be sent packing.
What homeland, please, Thermodore, if they have never had one? It was
part of Jordan all the time. Besides, Thermodore, the resolution 242
does not specify anything except that, everything should be done
through negotiations. Since palisimians have been exibiting a
remarkable lack of interest in rational negotiations and since the most
Israel can give is less than the minimum, that palisimians want to
grab, there is, really, no sense in resolution-thumping, Thermodore.
> And for you to say that their Muslims brothers have deserted them is
> another of your many lies, as other than refusing to aid the Israeli
> regime in their goal of ethnic cleansing, they are behind them 100%.
That is why Kuwait and the Saudi Arabia kicked palisimians out, and
they are currently being happily killed in Iraq by iraqis, all out of
love and 100% support, I guess.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 8:10 pm
From: "Norma"
<nbatra@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1143596892.553663.156660@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> docremington wrote:
> > nbatra@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> > > > Since Palestine does not exist there are no
> > > > Palestinians. We have told you this often.
> > >
> > > They are stateless people. In this way, Palestinians can exist even
> > > though Palestine is not yet fully established.
> > >
> >
> >
> > They are not "stateless people", they do not belong to a distinct
> > ethnic group, the WB palisimians, who lived there before 1994, have
> > jordanian citizenship and are, formally, jordanians. They have Jordan,
> > they have palistan-hamasistan and want a VIP pass to Israel too.
>
> They live in refugee camps, so formal statuses notwithstanding, they
> are currently de-facto stateless. Going to work in Israel and coming
> back does not give one a state, and Jordan is by no means their state
> either. The creation of a State of Palestine is essential for these
> refugees.
Why????
Norma
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 6:43 pm
From: "docremington"
nbatra@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> docremington wrote:
> > nbatra@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> > > > Since Palestine does not exist there are no
> > > > Palestinians. We have told you this often.
> > >
> > > They are stateless people. In this way, Palestinians can exist even
> > > though Palestine is not yet fully established.
> >
> > They are not "stateless people", they do not belong to a distinct
> > ethnic group, the WB palisimians, who lived there before 1994, have
> > jordanian citizenship and are, formally, jordanians. They have Jordan,
> > they have palistan-hamasistan and want a VIP pass to Israel too.
>
> They live in refugee camps, so formal statuses notwithstanding, they
> are currently de-facto stateless.
>
They don't all live in refugee camps, as not all of them are refugees,
and their camps, bth, do not look like camps, where else are refugees
living with italian marble, spanish tile and japanese refrigerators? In
Jenin, of course.
As to their alleged stateless status, they all received full jordanian
citizenship in 1953. Let them enjoy it. Bth, where else do hereditary,
ie, royal refugees exist?
> Going to work in Israel and coming
> back does not give one a state,
Isn't it their problem?
> and Jordan is by no means their state
> either.
I don't think so.
"After a short period of temporary administration in the West Bank, a
group of leaders, notables and elders representing Palestinian Arabs
who had emigrated from the occupied territories considered joining the
East Bank, a patriotic and nationalist demand and a guarantee against
Israeli dangers. They held two great historic meetings. The first was
in Jericho on 1 December 1948 and the second in Nablus on 28 December
1948. ... Those present adopted resolutions calling on the late King
Abdullah Bin al-Husein to take immediate steps to unify and merge the
two Banks in a single State under his leadership."
King Hussein, March 15, 1972
> The creation of a State of Palestine is essential for these
> refugees.
Relocation is essential to them, instead. They want it too.
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TOPIC: Jobs That Americans Won't Do ?? Think Again
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5f87ba45eaeed9fb
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 8:08 pm
From: Dave Smith
gringo wrote:
>
> > So what specific skills are we talking?
> >
> > - Shifting gears
> > - turning with a trailer
> > - backing up
> > - backing up with a trailer
> > - pre trip inspections
> > - fabricating log books to make them look legal
> > - load security
> >
>
> Dave, Dave. I am surprised. Have you ever attempted to shift a
> 13-speed Eaton-Fuller while pulling an 80,000 load up a 6% grade?
>
Yes.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 8:15 pm
From: Dave Smith
Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > Dave, Dave. I am surprised. Have you ever attempted to shift a
> > 13-speed Eaton-Fuller while pulling an 80,000 load up a 6% grade?
> >
>
> Yes.
And I have done it with a two stick 5x4.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 1:54 am
From: chesucat
In misc.transport.trucking Slyvester <Dean.Owens@gmail.com> wrote:
S>Is $8.50/hr for an unskilled labor position a "third world wage"?
S>Most dont want to even show up.....
Depends on where you live! Most places pay $6 an hour. If they
DON'T show up, then they have QUIT! A 'no show, no call' is a
voluntary resignation. Unless they have a valid excuse, like a
doctor or ER note. A kitchen is a very stressful and shitty place
to work, NOT everyone can do it! There are bad Mexicans, bad whites,
bad blacks, and bad Asians everywhere! Everyone is a lazy bum,
except YOU!
<chesucat twitches>
--
chesucat_at_sdf_dit_lonestar_dot_org_dah!
SDF Public Access UNIX System, Est. 1987 <http://sdf.lonestar.org/>
To program anything that is programmable is an obsession!
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 2:02 am
From: chesucat
In misc.transport.trucking Slyvester <Dean.Owens@gmail.com> wrote:
S>In our industry we are one of the last real restaurants. We provide
S>good food at a reasonable cost to the driver. Unfortunately, we have
S>the issue of labor. I just wish I could get good help.
S>By the way, we have good quality coffee. We aren't exactly Starbucks,
S>but we aren't McDonalds either.
Yeah, that and a buck fifty will get you a cup of coffee, 'eh?!;-)
Pay under the table and Fuck the State!
<chesucat twitches>
--
chesucat_at_sdf_dit_lonestar_dot_org_dah!
SDF Public Access UNIX System, Est. 1987 <http://sdf.lonestar.org/>
To program anything that is programmable is an obsession!
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TOPIC: MURDER OF RACHEL CORRIE, AN AMERICAN HEROINE
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/230b20b958a3d3ba
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 5:27 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Q0bWf.2768$V7.2303@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> > I'm doing great, good job, retirement assured.
>> Big happy dog sleeping at my feet.
>> Life is good.
>>
>>
>> Jim E
> THE DOG IS YOU, AND YOU ARE SLEEPING AT THE FEET OF A JEW SLAVER!
>>
>
>
If life is good, who cares about your lunatic ravings.
Death to islam
Shit upon allah.
Jim E
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 5:31 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:R1bWf.2769$V7.661@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> > They couldn't, they were too busy filming it for propaganda purposes.
>> Another useful idiot ground into pink mud.
>> No loss to either side.
>>
>>
>> Jim E
> JIM, YOU ARE ORDINARY ZIONAZI GARBAGE, PISS ON YOU!
>
And you are a pathetic old drooler in "Depends"
Not to mention an islamizoid coward and shit stain.
Jim E
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 5:36 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:O2bWf.2770$V7.2588@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Jim E" <YD653126@sea.edu> wrote in message
> news:48rvhoFl7hosU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:u%1Wf.280$I7.123@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
>>> news:QP1Wf.35937$ty4.14681@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>>>
>>>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:cq1Wf.259$I7.225@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>>> The lonesome death of Rachel Corrie
>>>>
>>>> How is her death lonesome? It is constantly being brought up by silly
>>>> antisemites and kooks, such as yourself.
>>>
>>> ARE YOU AGAIN MAKEING A WORTHLESS CLAIM THAT JEWS ARE SEMITES?
>>> RACHEL WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN
>>
>>
>> Oh bullshit, only the idiot islamizoids bring her up.
>> They want to get the most bang for their propaganda buck.
>> If she were really an American maybe someone would give a crap.
>>
>>
>> Jim E
> SHE WAS FAR MORE AMERICAN THAN YOU WILL EVER BE, JEWBOY!
>
Not everyone who thinks you are a pathetic little Jew hater is Jewish.
In fact, probably most are not.
A specimen as disgusting as you is pretty generally despised by all normal
people.
Jim E
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 6:47 pm
From: AnonMoos
flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>On 28-Mar-2006, AnonMoos <anonmoos@io.com> wrote:
>> but are quick to jump on a vague nebulous conspiracy
>> theory! Can I call you Daniel Meyssan?
> You'll have to translate that one...
Look up "Thierry Meyssan".
--
المتبرجة خير
من الإرهابي
المنتحر
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
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TOPIC: Affirmative action should be instituted in ALL college and professional
sports!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9289b2c8aa36603f
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 5:38 pm
From: welovethemearnhardts@yahoo.com
It is time for there to be affirmative action in all college and
professional sports!
If affirmative action (referred to as AA from here on in on this tome)
is so good then why is it not exercised in the same respect in college
and professional sports? That would seem to be discrimination against
whites in basketball, football and baseball and discrimination against
blacks in hockey, soccer and volleyball.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander. The demographic
makeups of the college and professional sports should reflect the
demographic makeup of that locality. Sure, teams like the New England
Patriots, Green Bay Packers, Boston Red Sox, Minnesota Timberwolves,
Atlanta Braves, Chicago Bulls AND Bears, Charlotte Bobcats,
Dallas Cowboys, Seattle Seahawks, NY Rangers AND Islanders, Boston
Bruins and Florida Marlins AND Panthers might not be as good as a
result of the exclusionism that currently pervades in those localities
as well as others, but that would just be the breaks.
If society must do it then why does not professional sports have to be
doing it? Anything less that AA being applied to the college and pro
sports listed above is heresy and hypocrisy and racial discrimination.
Go Team!
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TOPIC: ken AND kaHER NAME IS THE LOWLIFES OF THE INTERNET
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/be9036f2f5a59f35
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 5:38 pm
From: dizcovR@hotmail.com
I see you responded rather quickly to my post addressed to you:
"THE LOWLIFES OF THE INTERNET"
I'm so glad that you know who you are :-)
Lizzy
ken_andor_kathy@yahoo.com wrote:
> Moussoui is a hero! The evil FBI has been trying to say that Moussaoui
> lied to them about his involvement in the 9/11/01 successful mission.
> But Moussaoui's attorney is very skilled and has shown in court that
> Moussaoui was only exercising his 5th amendment right to not implicate
> himself in any crime.
>
> Besides, Moussaoui was not involved in 9/11/01 anyway it has been shown
> in court. Moussaoui said he was waiting for later and wanted to land a
> plane at the White House at a later date.
>
> And, supposedly, Moussaoui is not to be given the death penalty unless
> it is shown that he lied to the FBI about his involvement. And since
> he wisely invoked his 5th amendment rights he did not commit any crime
> at all. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REQUIREMENT that any person being
> interrogated must cooperate with law enforcement authorities.
>
> So, he should be walking on that death penalty charge. Even Judge
> Leonie Brinkema, who is always a stump broke mule when it comes to
> supporting the evil AmeriKKKan government, has said numerous times in
> court that Moussaoui had committed no crime by not cooperating with the
> authorities. Even as evil as she is, she had to come to the
> realization that the 5th amendment prevails in this case.
>
> I am still waiting to see if she does anything to yummy government
> attorney Carla Martin for her shenanigans in the case. Brinkema has
> threatened Carla with contempt of court charges for her coaching of
> prosecution witnesses. But, as Clara Peller used to say in the
> hamburger commercial, where's the beef? - an obstruction of justice
> charge!
>
> Brinkema has committed many, many sins and indiscretions in her many
> years on the bench as a footmat for AmeriKKKan 'justice'. She has
> surely bought herself a place in hell after she leaves this transitory
> mortal life. And she will probably be down there shagging around with
> Carla Martin, who has also committed many sins and indiscretions during
> her years for the 'Justice' Department. May a pox be on both of their
> houses!
>
> Allah Akbar!
>
> Ken AND Kathy
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TOPIC: Illegal Hispanic Immigration & rally in LA
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/965a78900803abba
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 5:43 pm
From: nbatra@sbcglobal.net
Servants? At least 50 of the Fortune 500 companies have a black CEO,
cletus.
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TOPIC: GOVERNMENTS MUST RESPECT MINORITY RIGHTS TO BE RIGHTEOUS - Afghanistan
and China take heed!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d0843135830a26cf
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 4:03 am
From: "J.Venning"
"Geno2345" <francis1234@fuse.net> wrote in message news:72ba1$4429a5e2$d8442a0f$9031@FUSE.NET...
>I see the flea is preaching to the Dog again.
>
Or the tail wagging the dog.
J.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 6:35 pm
From: "rst0wxyz@yahoo.com"
>You are mistaken. I do not support the overthrow of the CCP
You're not one of the China-Bashers on SCC? Ooooops, my goof!!
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TOPIC: About Canadian pedophiles JF Mezei and Darrell Larose
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/98b8b82dacbd0be4
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 4:08 am
From: Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
Gregory Morrow <gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>
>Ottawa pedophile Darrell Larose sockpuppeting as "Nomen Nescio" kooked:
>
>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> >
>> > This can't *all* possibly be true -- *can* it...???
>> >
>> Why not Greg, you're a moron that reposts and repeats like the little
>> parrot you are...
>
>
>Should we take up a collection so that we can buy JF a fully intact
>salami...???
Maybe JF and his pedophile lover Darrell Larose ("geoff_one") should try
foreskin restoration. It'll keep them busy enough for a while to give us a
rest from their incessant trolling.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=foreskin+restoration
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TOPIC: My Recent Trip to London
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a49283aa39753c71
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 6:16 pm
From: "Mohd Kaffir"
PratapTambay wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I did'nt know you were so old. Your energy for life at your age is
> inspiring.
>
> I have spent 3 months each in Toronto, San Jose and Pittsburgh. I did
> not like USA.
I have stayed in both Pittsburgh and San Jose.
Apart from Toronto (which is Canadian), I think you should visit San
Francisco, New York, Boston to see a different sight of the US.
I love pretty much the same things about London that you
> describe succintly.
>
> I havent read as poetic prose since the poignant extempore of Mary
> Fatayi Williams after the London bombings. And the turns of your
> language are typically british.
>
> You made my day.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pratap
>
>
>
>
> Bholu wrote:
> > Well, time goes by and so do we. A dear friend from the old days died
> > in her early nineties and I decided to pay a visit and my respects to
> > Maureen's family. The last time I was in England, Harold Wilson was the
> > PM and it cost me 5 shillings to get from Heathrow to Regent's Park.
> > This time I landed at Gatwick and took an express that set me back
> > about 20 pounds - given the unfavorable conversion rate of about $2 to
> > a pound I felt poor indeed. How the Londoners pay for living is beyond
> > me.
> >
> > So what has changed? A lot and nothing. The city has new foreign sounds
> > now - Russian, Turkish, Polish - besides Hindi and other Indian
> > languages. Hideous things like the London Eye are a sore sight. There
> > are no shillings and the pubs have gone down as far as grub is
> > concerned - I mean they are serving nachos. Good heavens! It feels more
> > American than ever.
> >
> > Yet, some things retain their discreet charm. A morning stroll through
> > Regent's Park, chilly though it was at this time, was nevertheless
> > invigorating. How wonderfully this Royal Park is maintained and the
> > beauty of the John Nash terraces, the ducks and bridges. I enjoyed this
> > as much as I had done more than 40 years ago. Sure the Tube was still
> > there - expensive as hell, but cheap considering the bang for the buck.
> > And then this polyglot city has a slow, easygoing grace that defies its
> > high density urban population from around the world. That is something
> > that has not changed. The way this city takes in people and makes them
> > in its own image. So the crowd was different, but it was the same.
> > British and very proper and very helpful. And this 87 year old man felt
> > at home right away.
> >
> > So, goodbye Maureen. It was an honor to have met you - you embodied
> > everything that is decent and good in your countrymen. Goodbye London -
> > I hope I will return someday - I know you will be different in many
> > ways, but I will feel at home.
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TOPIC: We're FRICKED, peoplez !!!!!!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6b3ac486f8a62a5e
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 1:31 pm
From: imorf
immortality@so.really.really.really.old.net wrote:
> Mans influence just made the increase occur quicker.
Man's influence has pushed atm CO2 well beyond the natural historical
peak. Look at this graph of est atm CO2 for the past 400,000 years
<http://www.grida.no/climate/vital/02.htm>.
CO2 at 280-290ppmv appears to be the natural (ie non human influenced)
historical cyclical peak. That graph does not show it, but 2005 levels
were in excess of 370 ppmv (ie off the graph), and has increased from a
pre-industrial concentration of about 280 ppmv.
> During past events the co2 and other greenhouse gasses
> were just as bad, due maybe to fires, or other nutural causes.
Wrong, see above graph and compare current levels.
>
> Fires - we couldn't possibly stop it...
Why not, they are already planning/building a huge road through the
amazon, that is in essence a firebreak. How can you predict what man
will do in the future. If the "great" forests do end up drying and
becoming such a threat then it is quite conceivable future governments
will be forced to create containment lines, which will also encourage
further exploitation.
> eg: The amazon has been drying and is having a terrible drought.
> If it were to get too much worse then there would be little hope
> of stopping raging fires in such a remote region nor in asia.
>
> We in the 'western world' cannot even stop bad fires
> in OZ or the US so to say that we would just stop it
> in remote places in poor and undeveloped countries
> is just not realistic.
You don't need to put the fire out, only contain it, and eventually it
rains, or the wind turns it back on itself etc example Indonesian fires
a few years ago. But you are comparing current fire fighting measures to
imagined extreme environmental conditions of the future, and not
allowing for changes in policies to take that into account. see my prior
paragraph.
> As far as vulcanism goes, just one big volcano going off
> heavily and not stopping for a while can have a huge effect
> all by its self due to the very fine particles pushed high into
> the atmosphere.
err that has been happening for millenia, and unless it's a global and
non-stop phenomenon they are but blips on the radar. Their dimming
effects don't last beyond a few years of the eruption (one or two
decades at the most for the biggest, eg Krakatoa?)
>>>Ice & snow reflect light & heat, preventing warming such that ice ages
>>>can last for vast periods of time. eg: much of the Earths history has
>>>been in ice ages. Short warm periods like now are the exception, not the rule.
>>
>>Irrelevant, since most of Earth's history did not have industrial
>>mankind in plague proportions.
>
> Irrelevant, since co2 & other greenhouse gasses became just as bad
> in previous events before man was here - man just fast-tracked it and
> continues to make it worse as we speak & into the futures since only
> greed is important to our 'leaders' - leading us into hell on earth perhaps....
>
You don't make sense. My point was your cyclical historical changes have
now been adulterated by man's influence, so can no longer be relied upon
to repeat. Then you say my point is irrelevant because man has impacted
upon the natural cycle. Anyway if by that you mean man's impact is
negligable compared to natural processes, please explain the
*exponential* rise in atm CO2 from 1870 to the present.
>>>Judging by previous cycles, the longer & hotter the warm period,
>>>the colder, longer & more extreme the ice age will be.
>>>Ours is one of the longest & warmest known periods.
"Judging by previous cycles", CO2 would have been at its peak at under
300ppmv were it not for the industrial release of CO2 by man.
>>and it will go on indefinitely due to anthropogenic CO2 input, until we
>>reduce CO2 production to below levels that allow for natural processes
>>to remove it from the atmosphere faster than what we are adding. This
>>will probably never happen (not in this century anway), and also take a
>>long long time to complete.
> Fine smoke & ash particles in the upper atmosphere have a bigger effect
> than co2. It blocks the heat from getting to the earths surface,
> so the co2 cannot trap heat that isn't getting here... 101.
> The primary thing keeping the greenhouse effect from getting worse
> at the moment is fine particles of pollution in the upper atmosphere.
> This was only discovered quite recently and is undeniable.
> The effect was quite startling.
yes, I know all that. It's quite disturbing that pollution from the
unfiltered processes of the pre- 80's has been masking global warming,
and hence so much worse is to come.
However my bone of contention is your suggestion that perhaps there
could be a quick turn around due to global dimming brought about by
global warming processes towards another ice age. I suggest that man has
pushed atm CO2 far beyond what nature has been able to reverse in the
past, and there is still a lot more CO2 to be released over the next 50
years (we are only just starting the decline side of peak oil curve and
the two largest populations in the world are just starting their
industrial/economic catchup). Other than sustained global volcanism
(unlikely) there will be no natural mechanisms big enough and sustained
enough to have much of an impact (sorry but I can't see us allowing all
the forests of the world to burn down). Whatever fires there are, their
-% dimming will not overcome the +% greenouse capacity we have added.
I do however share your pessimism. :)
Till man reduces CO2 atm output to below what natural sinks can consume,
we are in for a warm and wet (sea level wise) future.
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TOPIC: People's Association (PA) has just retrenched those lowly paid
employees
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c509d55ad9c46b3b
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 6:36 pm
From: Kum Beh Lan
Is this practice in line with the Swiss standard of living?
"George Soros" <george@soros.net> wrote in message
news:1uoj22d57gifh11nvn6gr2nchummr2jveg@4ax.com...
> Sadly the outsourcing thingie is done blindly!
> Neet effect is the hourly paid or daily rated get paid far less and
> quality of workoutput drops; contractors get windfall for just doing
> labour brokerage, essentially.
> WDA is assured of more jobs to do....
> Who win? Who lose?
>
> Right hand does not know what the left is doing....
>
> On 28 Mar 2006 17:01:00 -0800, "yansimon52" <yansimon52@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On the 15th march, PA has retrenched those lowly paid employees (ie.
>>gardeners, housekeepers, in-house security guards and etc..)...........
>>
>>Strange to see that such gov agency spearheading this sort of
>>retrenchment exercise in this period of time.........
>>
>>PA prefers to sub those jobs to contractors in turn, these contractors
>>either re-hire ex-PA staffs at a much lower salary or to hire foreign
>>workers to do the same jobs.......
>>
>>Usually, those retrenched ex-PA staffs turn down the meagre salary
>>(ie.offerring @$700 per month compared to their previous salary of
>>$1,200 to $1,500) offered by these contractors.So, contractor got no
>>choice but, to employ those foreign workers (ie. Malaysian of bangala)
>>to do the job..
>>
>>Very very strange...........on one hand, gov openly emphasis and
>>encouraging private sectors to employ older workers.on the other hand,
>>gov agencies are retrenching older workers..........
>>
>>Look likes, this PAP gov is talking thru their arsehole............
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TOPIC: Photos of the Great Los Angeles March and Student Walkouts!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2497b7d02d327327
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 6:38 pm
From: "Another Mexican Colonist"
http://www.mexica-movement.org/granmarcha.htm
Incredible what's happening...incredible.
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