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Today's topics:
* Goodbye Europe - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/45e5b9700b1e9ac3
* Journalist Carroll, freed in Iraq, Was Treated Well - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e6342dce369ea182
* Suchart and Yuwadee Akkavibul - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5f466a112b4c6d1e
* Planned Parenthood Abortion Centers Lure Teens With iPods, Movie Tickets - 3
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6b864d136cbf256
* TURKISH ARMY SURROUNDED TURDISTAN!!! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e1f3354707a6067e
* property problem in cyprus - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f377487ec0fd62bf
* "Greek Cypriots' violence against their own fellow" - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/eff3304c85e6c69e
* What is Gender Feminism? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/89b5c69b70aedf93
* 500,000 immigration advocates march in Los Angelos - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a7922568c71505bc
* "We are the TERRORISTS..." - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/19537260e534dde
* See How Kurdish Propaganda & Manipulation Works - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d32186383b6b460e
* WSJ: Why Not Liberate the American Worker - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dff0702be9d23a69
* SOME CROOKS COPIED THE IRS- SITE PAGE - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/93c0f601e55bad74
* NO FREE RIDE ANY MORE! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/66b2a96e6aac1929
* SECURING THE KIKE REALM - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8dd1ed5cdcb29a1b
* Illegals: The Cure? Require 'Illegal Alien" Exclusion in Insurance Policies -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/50d9d24ad2faadf1
* Good for you, Iran - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c207418ded7475f5
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TOPIC: Goodbye Europe
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/45e5b9700b1e9ac3
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 1:23 pm
From: Daniel Bernard
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:52:53 +0200, Calife <user@user.net> wrote:
<snipped>
>
>Complaining about American "culture" is a given in France,
Probably because American culture is pretty much now limited to
silicone breasts, drive-by shootings and crack cocaine.
>has been for
>half a century. Inversely, many French love movies, jazz, blues, C&W,
>Gospel, Harley-Davidson, Coca Cola, NBA and NFL sports (Superbowl XL was
>live on national France 2 TV network this year, till 5-or-so AM). The
>list goes on... There are also many French who do NOT like any of that.
>Sorry to puncture your facile image of monolithic foreign cultures!! :-)
>However, junk food, bad Hollywood explosion movies, super djeezus
>hypocrisy, evil, criminal, illegal imperial expansion masquerading as
>"freedom" and "bringing democracy" just don't wash with a large segment
>of the French population.
>And yes, you will find sell-outs-to-power like Bernard-Henri Levy, Andre
>Glucksman, Bernard Kouchner and Jean François Revel to like all that trash!!
>
>As to Chirac, he will never rail against Asian culture, what with being
>a great lover of Japan, a country he proudly points out having visited
>over 40 times, both officially and privately!
>
>
>
>> more cries of "Sarkozy fascist" (it's even
>>> subtitled for DoD and assorted limited understanding types), and
>>> "Sarkozy enculé" (literally "Sarkozy fucked-up the ass", in fact
>>> equivalent to "Sarkozy asshole").
>>
>> I re watched it and just like marybonita said, I could have sworn I heard
>> .....'Sarkozy, Sale Juif!
>
>
>Don't swear, it's unbecoming!
He is from Kansas. WTF does he know about comportment?
>Especially when you don't know what you're talking about! Or are you
>pretending bilingualism? You speak French now??? You're taking lessons
>with "Marybonita"?? :-D
>The kids are CLEARLY yelling "Sarkozy fasciste", which he nearly is,
Nearly?
http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=370748
>and
>not "sale juif" which he is not.
Obviously DoD could not understand the subtitles but hey, why spoil
his fantasies?
>So, for your own sake, enter that information, file it, and don't spout
>ignorant bullshit anymore than you have to!
>
Like the idiot can help it.
--
amicalement,
Daniel
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TOPIC: Journalist Carroll, freed in Iraq, Was Treated Well
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e6342dce369ea182
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 4:27 am
From: "Möbius Pretzel"
Acharya wrote:
> <NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org> wrote:
> > Journalist Carroll, freed in Iraq, Was Treated Well
> >
> > Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit
> >
> > CNN - Mar 30, 2006
> > http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/30/carroll/index.html?section=cnn_latest
> >
> > Journalist Carroll freed in Iraq
> >
> > 'They never hit me. They never threatened to hit me'
>
>
> They freed the hostage because the Iraqi Special Operations Forces would
> have soon kicked their butts.
Yeah, that's why.
Somebody's been watching too much Fox Fake 'News', obviously.
Careful, that channel kills brain cells.
(or attracts people with too many spent brain cells)
Which came first, Fox Fake 'News' or the spent brain cells?
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TOPIC: Suchart and Yuwadee Akkavibul
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5f466a112b4c6d1e
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 12:31 pm
From: Anonymous
http://thailand.ahrchk.net/mainfile.php/general/29/
http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/mainfile.php/2004/886/
UPDATE (Thailand): Case of the killing of a migrant worker dragged on
by apparent delay of trial; Public prosecutor must speed up the case
UPDATE ON URGENT APPEAL UPDATE ON URGENT APPEAL UPDATE ON URGENT
APPEAL
ASIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION - URGENT APPEALS PROGRAMME
Update on Urgent Appeal
10 December 2004
[RE: UA-91-2004: THAILAND: Transparency in trial of the killers of a
migrant worker demanded on 23 July 2004]
UP-80-2004: THAILAND: Case of the killing of a migrant worker dragged
on by apparent delay of trial; Public prosecutor must speed up the
case
THAILAND: Impunity; violence against women; rule of law
Dear friends,
The Asian Human Rights Commission is seriously concerned by the
apparent delay of a trial of Ma Suu, a Burmese migrant worker who died
after being beaten and set on fire by her employers, Suchart and
Yuwadee Akkavibul in July 2002. The accused Thai airforce officer and
his wife had escaped justice for two years, because of the officer's
influence and position of authority. (See further: UA-91-2004)
According to the information we have received, hearings were held to
take evidence two times on July 26 and August 4 2004. After hearing a
number of witnesses and obtaining strong evidence, the public
prosecutor charged the accused, Suchart and Yuwadee, with murder,
confinement and harbouring an illegal alien, and the case went to the
full court on November 1, 2004 (Black No. 1089/2547 at Uthaithanee
Provincial Court).
However, the court delayed the trial by setting the next hearing in
January 2006 saying that the court needed to handle pending cases
before new ones, under a new procedure. Local human rights groups say
that some new cases will be delayed for about three or four years
under these circumstances. Ma Suu's lawyer worries that the case will
be weakened by this delay as it is not certain that witnesses will be
available at the convenience of the court over a year from now.
The AHRC calls for your urgent intervention into this matter. Please
send a letter to Mr Kampree Kaocharern, the Attorney General of
Thailand, and urge him to take prompt steps to speed up the case,
considering the brutality and urgency and the fact that the case has
already been considerably delayed before the accused is an airforce
officer. Please also urge him to take evidence from witnesses prior to
the next hearing in 2006 in order to prevent damage to the prosecution
case.
Urgent Appeals Desk
Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC)
UPDATED INFORMATION:
An 18-year-old Burmese migrant worker, Ma Suu, was brutally murdered
by her employees, Suchart Akkavibul and his wife Yuwadee, who set her
on fire alleging theft in Lop Buri Province, Thailand, in early July
2002. Two years after the incident on June 25, 2004, Suchart and his
wife finally appeared before the Uthaithanee Provincial Court.
However, they were given bail on the grounds that Suchart is a state
officer, although the prosecutor opposed bail. Suchart Akkavibul is a
special group commander in the Royal Thai Airforce.
The public prosecutor then applied to the court in order to take
testimony from the witnesses before the entry of the charge in the
court under Section 237 of the Criminal Procedure Code B.E.2477
[1928]. According to Section 237, when there are reasonable grounds to
believe that it is difficult for the witness to give testimony in the
future, the public prosecutor can apply motion to the court to take
his testimony promptly before the entry of the charge in the court.
The court received this application and hearings were held two times
on July 26 and August 4, 2004. Five Burmese workers who were employed
by Suchart gave their testimony at the hearings. Their names were
recorded as Mr Janai, Mr Chid, Mr Chai, Mr Nai and Mr Sang. At the
hearings, they testified that they saw that Ma Suu was severely beaten
by the employers. Some of them also testified that they saw her burn
injuries after the incident. Another Thai employer named Samrueng
Ponnikorn, who had been involved in the incident, also testified
against the two accused with the agreement that he would be escape
from prosecution. His elder brother, Kamron Ponnikorn has also already
agreed to testify in next hearing on the same condition.
Finally, the Public Prosecutor charged Suchart and his wife with
murder, confinement and harbouring an illegal alien under Sections 289
and 310 of the Penal Code of Thailand and Section 64 of the
Immigration Act B.E.2522 [1979]. The first hearing of the case was
held at Uthaithanee Provincial Court on November 1. Although the
initial progress looked good, the court set the next hearing for
January 2006. As a new hearing system was enforced a year ago, the
court needs time to handle pending cases filed in the old hearing
system prior to hearing new cases. However, local human rights groups
argue that enforcing the new hearing system is being used as an excuse
to drag on trial in some cases, and this case must be heard without
further delay due to its brutality and urgency. The accused Thai
airforce officer and his wife had already escaped justice for two
years, apparently because of the officer's influence and position of
authority.
A journalist working for the Voice of America is also scheduled to
give a statement in the next hearing. He is the person who recorded Ma
Suu's statement about the incident and took her photos when he visited
her at the hospital in July 2004.
Ma Suu's lawyer worries that the delay will weaken the case and the
accused will enjoy impunity in the end, as most of these witnesses may
not be expected to be available at the convenience of the court over a
year from now. The lawyer is also concerned that even though some
witnesses may appear in the court in 2006, the evidence of the case
will be destroyed because the accused is an influential state officer.
BREIF REMINDER OF THE CASE:
Ma Suu was brutally murdered by her employers, Suchart and Yuwadee
Akkavibul, who set her on fire alleging theft in Lop Buri Province,
Thailand, in early July 2002. Although Ma Suu sustained fatal burn
injuries, her employers abandoned her in a room without treatment or
food for three days and then dumped her by a roadside. On the early
morning of July 7, 2002, a man found Ma Suu on the road and sent her
to a hospital in town. However, she died nine days later, after
implicating the accused three persons;, Suchart his wife and Kamron
Ponnikorn.
SUGGESTED ACTION:
Please send a letter to the Attorney General of Thailand and urge him
to take prompt steps to speed up the case. Please also urge the
Attorney General to file the motion to the Court under Section 237 of
the Criminal Procedure Code B.E.2477 [1928], and take evidences from
the witnesses concerned prior to the next hearing in 2006 in order to
prevent loss of evidence.
Sample letter:
Dear Mr Kampree,
THAILAND: Case of the killing of a migrant worker dragged on by
apparent delay of trial; Public prosecutor must speed up the case;
(Black No. 1089/2547 at Uthaithanee Provincial Court)
Name of Victim: Ma Suu, 18, a Burmese migrant worker
The Accused:
1) Suchart Akkavibul, a special group commander in the Royal Thai
Airforce
2) Yuwadee Akkavibul, wife of Suchart Akkavibul
Case Number: Black Number 1089/2547 at Uthaithanee Province Court
It is with grave concern that I write to you regarding the apparent
delay of a trial of Ma Suu, a Burmese migrant worker brutally murdered
by her employers, Suchart and Yuwadee Akkavibul in July 2002.
According to the information I have received, at the first case
hearing on 1 November 2004, the Uthaithanee Provincial Court delayed
the trial by setting the next hearing for January 2006 despite the
presence of a number of witnesses and strong evidence ensured through
preliminary hearings.
This delay will weaken the case, as the witnesses concerned may not be
expected to be available at the convenience of the court over a year
from now. I am also concerned that the case evidence may be harmed due
to the delay by giving enough time and chance to the accused to
manipulate it. I would like to remind you that one of the accused,
Suchart Akkavibul, is an influential officer in the Royal Thai
Airforce, and he and his wife have so far escaped justice for two
years because of this.
I therefore urge you to take prompt action to speed up the case in
court. I also urge you to take appropriate steps to take evidence from
the witnesses concerned, with the permission of the court, prior to
the next hearing in 2006, in order to prevent loss of evidence.
Yours truly,
SEND A LETTER TO:
Mr Kampree Kaocharern
Attorney General
Office of the Attorney General
Lukmuang Building
Nahuppei Road
Prabraromrachawang, Pranakorn
THAILAND
Fax: +66 2 224 1448 / 221 0858
SEND A COPY OF THE LETTER TO:
1. Mr Pongthep Thepkanjana
Minister of Justice
Office of the Ministry of Justice
Ministry of Justice Building
22nd Floor
Chaeng Wattana Road
Pakkred, Nonthaburi
Bangkok 11120
THAILAND
Tel: +66 2 502 6776/ 8223
Fax: +66 2 502 6699/ 6734/ 6884
2. Ms Yakin Erturk
Special Rapporteur on Violence against Women
OHCHR-UNOG
Palais Wilson, 8-14 Avenue de la Paix
1211 Geneva 10
SWITZERLAND
Fax: +41 22 917 9022
3. Ms Gabriela Rodr?uez Pizarro
Special Rapporteur on the human rights of migrants
Att: Ms. Veronica Birga
Room: 3-040
8-14 Avenue de la Paix
1211 Geneva 10
Switzerland
Tel: +41 22 917 9336
Fax: +41 22 917 9006
E-mail: urgent-action@ohchr.org (please include in the subject box:
Special Rapporteur HR Migrants)
Thank you.
Urgent Appeals Programme
Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC)
-=-
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TOPIC: Planned Parenthood Abortion Centers Lure Teens With iPods, Movie
Tickets
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6b864d136cbf256
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 4:32 am
From: "Sound of Trumpet"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1606434/posts
Planned Parenthood Abortion Centers Lure Teens With iPods, Movie
Tickets
LifeNews ^ | March 30, 2006 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 03/30/2006 3:46:27 PM PST by rhema
San Francisco, CA -- Teenagers in the United States are having
abortions in fewer numbers than at any time since Roe v. Wade and are
more pro-life than older Americans. That means fewer customers for
Planned Parenthood, but the abortion business has come up with a
corporate marketing plan to lure teens with free iPods and movie
tickets. Planned Parenthood Golden Gate, the center that gave teenager
Holly Patterson the dangerous abortion drug that killed her, is leading
the way with the new marketing scheme.
Anyone who makes an appointment at one of the eight PPGG centers before
April 30, 2006, can enter to win an iPod.
A poster announcing another Planned Parenthood program, called
"Tell-A-Friend," includes a photograph of a teenage girl whispering
into the ear of another teen and telling. The text of the ad reads:
"Get free movie tickets? Yes. When you tell a friend about Planned
Parenthood."
"These are some of the schemes Planned Parenthood is using to lure
teenagers into its deadly facilities," said Douglas Scott, president
of Life Decisions International, a group that organizes boycotts of
companies that contribute to the abortion business.
"Now which age group is most likely to be swayed by this kind of
gimmick?" Scott asked. "This incentive is clearly aimed at young
people."
"Planned Parenthood has resorted to common corporate tactics in an
effort to get young people to encourage their peers to voluntarily
become the pro-abortion group's new victims," he said.
In the tell a friend campaign, teens are asked to obtain a special card
at a Planned Parenthood center or download one from their web site. The
promoter gets two free movie passes redeemable at any United Artist
theater and the friend receives $10 off her first visit.
Other Planned Parenthood abortion businesses other than PPGG are using
the campaign as well, including the Planned Parenthood ffiliate network
in Colorado.
Scott said the cards are also offensive because they include graphics
from a cartoon video PPGG produced calling for violence against
pro-life advocates. A superhero in the cartoon asks abortion advocates
to participate in the "elimination" of pro-life people and shoots them
with a ray gun.
"Just like any other business, a key target group for Planned
Parenthood is young people," Scott said. "And once a teenager is
hooked, he or she can prove to be a good source of income for many
years to come."
LDI is currently investigating to determine if United Artists donated
the tickets to Planned Parenthood or if they were purchased by the
group. The pro-life group has not yet called for a boycott of the movie
theater company.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 12:42 pm
From: rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1606434/posts
>
>Planned Parenthood Abortion Centers Lure Teens With iPods, Movie
>Tickets
So we see the pro-liars resorting to more sleazy, more lies, and more
deception.
>Posted on 03/30/2006 3:46:27 PM PST by rhema
>San Francisco, CA -- Teenagers in the United States are having
>abortions in fewer numbers than at any time since Roe v. Wade and are
>more pro-life than older Americans. That means fewer customers for
>Planned Parenthood, but the abortion business has come up with a
Abortion is only about 10% of PP's business. But the pro-liars are so
opposed to sex that they will lie and pretend that a campaign to
prevent teen preganncy is an attempt to promote abortion.
The pro-lie pholosophy is so evil and corrupt that they would rather
see people pregnant or dead than allow too much sex.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 9:05 am
From: "Johnny"
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote in message
news:1143808361.955067.89250@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1606434/posts
>
>
>
> Planned Parenthood Abortion Centers Lure Teens With iPods, Movie
> Tickets
>
> LifeNews ^ | March 30, 2006 | Steven Ertelt
>
>
> Posted on 03/30/2006 3:46:27 PM PST by rhema
>
>
> San Francisco, CA -- Teenagers in the United States are having
> abortions in fewer numbers than at any time since Roe v. Wade and are
> more pro-life than older Americans. That means fewer customers for
> Planned Parenthood, but the abortion business has come up with a
> corporate marketing plan to lure teens with free iPods and movie
> tickets. Planned Parenthood Golden Gate, the center that gave teenager
> Holly Patterson the dangerous abortion drug that killed her, is leading
> the way with the new marketing scheme.
>
> Anyone who makes an appointment at one of the eight PPGG centers before
> April 30, 2006, can enter to win an iPod.
Notice their lack of generosity.
A contest?
LOL!!!!!!!!
They have one Ipod they want to give away?
> A poster announcing another Planned Parenthood program, called
> "Tell-A-Friend," includes a photograph of a teenage girl whispering
> into the ear of another teen and telling. The text of the ad reads:
> "Get free movie tickets? Yes. When you tell a friend about Planned
> Parenthood."
>
> "These are some of the schemes Planned Parenthood is using to lure
> teenagers into its deadly facilities," said Douglas Scott, president
> of Life Decisions International, a group that organizes boycotts of
> companies that contribute to the abortion business.
If Planned Parenthood's tax exempt status were revoked they wouldn't get
contributions.
Granting Planned Parenthood tax exempt status is in violatiuon of the First
Amendment.
There is no free exercise right for Planned Parenthood.
> "Now which age group is most likely to be swayed by this kind of
> gimmick?" Scott asked. "This incentive is clearly aimed at young
> people."
Why wouldn't people who don't like them get the tickets and bust their
budget?
LOL!
I guess I would get some free tickets, too, just to run them outa business.
> "Planned Parenthood has resorted to common corporate tactics in an
> effort to get young people to encourage their peers to voluntarily
> become the pro-abortion group's new victims," he said.
Taking the tickets doesn't guarantee that someone will be Pro-abortion.
Planned parenthood is stupid.
I would take all their tickets and and not pay them a cent.
> In the tell a friend campaign, teens are asked to obtain a special card
> at a Planned Parenthood center or download one from their web site. The
> promoter gets two free movie passes redeemable at any United Artist
> theater and the friend receives $10 off her first visit.
LOL!
What a budget buster for PP.
LOL!
I would not give them tax dollars to subsidize their losses.
Who would pump the peoples' money into such a losing business?
I imagine Clinton gave them some cash to get them off his back.
> Other Planned Parenthood abortion businesses other than PPGG are using
> the campaign as well, including the Planned Parenthood ffiliate network
> in Colorado.
>
> Scott said the cards are also offensive because they include graphics
> from a cartoon video PPGG produced calling for violence against
> pro-life advocates. A superhero in the cartoon asks abortion advocates
> to participate in the "elimination" of pro-life people and shoots them
> with a ray gun.
"Bazooka Joe" won't like this.
> "Just like any other business, a key target group for Planned
> Parenthood is young people," Scott said. "And once a teenager is
> hooked, he or she can prove to be a good source of income for many
> years to come."
Remember the 'war' against tobacco targeting young people?
> LDI is currently investigating to determine if United Artists donated
> the tickets to Planned Parenthood or if they were purchased by the
> group. The pro-life group has not yet called for a boycott of the movie
> theater company.
Planned Parenthood wants more pussy.
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TOPIC: TURKISH ARMY SURROUNDED TURDISTAN!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e1f3354707a6067e
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 2:38 pm
From: Panta Rhei
Panting Pink Panta writes:
> Mhitsos wrote:
>> Ali Asker wrote:
>>
>>> TURKISH ARMY SURROUNDED TURDISTAN!!!
>
>>>
>>> Turdish guerilla's did not made any statements but they too, expected to DIE like good terrorist scum
>
>>
>> You have to make it to the news in Europe and other countries otherwise
>> the Turks will genocide you like they did the Armenians, Assyrians and
>> others.
>
> Hahahahahhahahahahaarrrr you live on the planet MOO !
>
> *LMFAOAY*
>
> http://media.putfile.com/moo33
Yep, genocides make Usenet's Turkish village idiot laugh!! Surprise? Not at
all! He is just one of about 70 million similar degraded, fascistic tURks
that think they fit in the EU!
--
Living the life of a ridiculed, bitchslapped loony on usenet helps Beanie
Tinfoil forget the failures in his life.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 4:22 pm
From: "gogu"
? <uhu@topkale.net> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1143770525.900125.241560@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Panta Rhei wrote:
>> uhu@topkale.net writes:
>>
>> > Four-Way Windowpane wrote:
>> >> umu wrote...
>> >>> The American troops in Iraq can take a lesson from the Turkish Army
>> >>> on
>> >>> how one has to deal with such unworthy pigs of terrorists!
>> >>
>> >> By throwing them in a dungeon and sodomizing them?
>> >
>> > Hmm. yeah, sounds a good idea! Thx!
>>
>> Of course you find sodomizing a good idea, you are a tURk. It's in your
>> genes, Turkish lowlife! Your forefathers practiced it for hundreds of
>> years.
> Everything YOU say can only be true, of course...
No, everything *YOU* say -a NAZI Turkish TROLL- must be true!
LOL
> Hmm. but you Grekos lived fine for more than 600 yrs _under_ us...
> without any problems. You are just unthankful for we let you live so
> long at all.
That's your interpretation of history, Greeks have suffered for *400* years
under the BARBARIAN Turkish yoke, you sick Turkish LIAR !
>> Keep such Turkish scum out of the EU!
> Who needs such a rasistic EU? Maybe you?
Good, then stay OUT OF HERE!
We don't need such BARBARIANS like you!
Uuuust, kiopeoglu kiopek!
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
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TOPIC: property problem in cyprus
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f377487ec0fd62bf
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 2:38 pm
From: Panta Rhei
Panting Pink Panta writes:
> Agamemnon wrote:
>> "serhan" <serhan586@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1143743927.070816.198370@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> All the Geeks of these newsproups, read this below and gatse djehame if
>>> you don't like it gatse bano.
>>>
>>> Just let refugees stay where they are
>>>
>>
>> You are obviously insane.
>>
>> The property the Greek Cypriots were ethnically cleansed from by the Turks
>> is worth more than TEN TIMES the property of the Turkish Cypriots and the
>> Greek Cypriot land in the north is the most productive on the island.
>>
>
> You are talking SHIT as usual Argywos G Argywou BUT let me remind you
> of two things that will haunted your tormented gweek psyche for
> eternity
>
> 1, Greedy land grabbing GREEKS / GREEK CYPRIOTS started the civil war
> that ended in the division of Cyprus
>
> 2, To the victor, the spoils !
>
> PWNT !
Glad you put is so bluntly, retarded Turk! It just reaffirms that fascist
Turkey will never make it in the EU!
--
If stupidity had financial value you'd be stinking rich, Seanie.
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TOPIC: "Greek Cypriots' violence against their own fellow"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/eff3304c85e6c69e
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 2:38 pm
From: Panta Rhei
Panting Pink Panta writes:
> June R Harton wrote:
>> <nbatra@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:1142559687.661918.189720@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>> The Turkish govt does not command their votes.
>>
>> Silly. They follow exactly what the military tell them, and everyone knows
>> it.
>> That translates as the Turkish Government tried to take over the whole of
>> Cyprus by the Annan scam because Kofi Annan is a Nazi Turk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> from: Spirit of Metaxa
>>
>> (using June's e-mail to communicate to BORE THE SHIT OUT OF you
>
> http://www.mysharefile.com/v/7952893/1_june_r_harton.wav.html
<BG> Poor, helpless, little idiot!
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TOPIC: What is Gender Feminism?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/89b5c69b70aedf93
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 7:05 am
From: "Jude"
"Xah Lee" <xah@xahlee.org> wrote in message
news:1143769057.010626.54770@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
What Is Gender Feminism?
'tis of the age
of Gender Feminists
hitting the American stage
questioning she and he
extols the queer and weird
and axing the womanly and manly
upon a glittering postmodernity
-Xah Lee, 2004-04
What kind of arrogant nincompoop quotes himself? lol
I agree with David Sands about gender feminism. It's either dead or nearly
dead.
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TOPIC: 500,000 immigration advocates march in Los Angelos
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a7922568c71505bc
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 5:11 am
From: "¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"
In talk.politics.guns "Felix D." <#1Chekist@OGPU.org> wrote:
>
>"Kris Baker" <kris.baker@prodigyy.net> wrote in message
>news:UWZWf.22437$NS6.2003@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>> "Chris Stainton" <Greaseband@keyboardss.Gov> wrote in message
>> news:pSWWf.41$iu3.39@fe12.lga...
>> >
>> > ALL "Illegal Immigrants" are scum, and I only wish we really did have a
>> > "smart bomb" to wipe them all out.
>>
>> How will we tell them apart from you?
>
>Easy: we do sweeps. Not a citizen? No green card?
>
>Good: off to and over the border with you, and that should be done pronto.
In the mean time, National Guard troops prevent clandestine border
crossings.
_____________
>You apparently have a problem with logic and common sense.
"The two are mutually exclusive, in case you didn't know.. *>LOL!<*"
- Kurt Harrington-Lochner,
attempting to define
LochnerLogic®
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 1:25 pm
From: "Morton Davis"
"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?" <?@?.com> wrote in message
news:nhaq229entkd1dlk65mm69k9vfnqoe1bjv@4ax.com...
> In talk.politics.guns "Felix D." <#1Chekist@OGPU.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Kris Baker" <kris.baker@prodigyy.net> wrote in message
> >news:UWZWf.22437$NS6.2003@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
> >>
> >> "Chris Stainton" <Greaseband@keyboardss.Gov> wrote in message
> >> news:pSWWf.41$iu3.39@fe12.lga...
> >> >
> >> > ALL "Illegal Immigrants" are scum, and I only wish we really did have
a
> >> > "smart bomb" to wipe them all out.
> >>
> >> How will we tell them apart from you?
> >
> >Easy: we do sweeps. Not a citizen? No green card?
> >
> >Good: off to and over the border with you, and that should be done
pronto.
>
> In the mean time, National Guard troops prevent clandestine border
> crossings.
>
No one can do that without bankrupting the nation. Too much border. Too many
people wanting in. Tunnels under the border, planes over it.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 5:51 am
From: "¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"
In talk.politics.guns "Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote:
>
>"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?" <?@?.com> wrote in message
>news:nhaq229entkd1dlk65mm69k9vfnqoe1bjv@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns "Felix D." <#1Chekist@OGPU.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Kris Baker" <kris.baker@prodigyy.net> wrote in message
>> >news:UWZWf.22437$NS6.2003@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
>> >>
>> >> "Chris Stainton" <Greaseband@keyboardss.Gov> wrote in message
>> >> news:pSWWf.41$iu3.39@fe12.lga...
>> >> >
>> >> > ALL "Illegal Immigrants" are scum, and I only wish we really did have
>a
>> >> > "smart bomb" to wipe them all out.
>> >>
>> >> How will we tell them apart from you?
>> >
>> >Easy: we do sweeps. Not a citizen? No green card?
>> >
>> >Good: off to and over the border with you, and that should be done
>pronto.
>>
>> In the mean time, National Guard troops prevent clandestine border
>> crossings.
>>
>
>No one can do that without bankrupting the nation. Too much border. Too many
>people wanting in. Tunnels under the border, planes over it.
They can do it. We have the technology.
_____________
>You apparently have a problem with logic and common sense.
"The two are mutually exclusive, in case you didn't know.. *>LOL!<*"
- Kurt Harrington-Lochner,
attempting to define
LochnerLogic®
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TOPIC: "We are the TERRORISTS..."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/19537260e534dde
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 3:23 pm
From: Panta Rhei
War on TERRORIST SCUM ! writes:
<snip the Turkish village idiot's usual impotent blather>
LOL! Usenet's notorious Turkish village idiot has yet come up with another
loony "identity" (over fifty so far)!!
He sounds as helpless, impotent and deranged as always! He still keeps
posting 24/7, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after
year! A true loser with NO LIFE AT ALL! LMAO!
--
Living the life of a ridiculed, bitchslapped loony on usenet helps Beanie
Tinfoil forget the failures in his life.
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TOPIC: See How Kurdish Propaganda & Manipulation Works
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d32186383b6b460e
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 4:25 pm
From: "gogu"
? <uhu@topkale.net> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1143765572.347329.144100@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Ali Asker has maipulated the BBC news article:
>>
>> In nearby Batman, an estimated 200,000 people were taking part in a
>> protest
>> march when the unrest broke out.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm
>
> But the original news article reads:
> In nearby Batman, an estimated 2,000 people were taking part in a
> protest march when the unrest broke out.
>
> A similar manipulation this guy also did to the VoiceOfAmerica article
> he had posted today.
>
> SEE HOW THE PROPAGANDA WORKS! THIS GUY IS A PAID LIAR!
Sure, only NAZI Turks like you tell the truth;-)))))))))))))
LOL
What a DUMB NAZI you are!
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 4:31 pm
From: "gogu"
? <uhu@topkale.net> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1143769774.215481.310280@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Ali Asker wrote:
>> uhu@topkale.net wrote:
>> > Ali Asker has maipulated the BBC news article:
>> > >
>> > > In nearby Batman, an estimated 200,000 people were taking part in a
>> > > protest
>> > > march when the unrest broke out.
>> > >
>> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm
>> >
>> > But the original news article reads:
>> > In nearby Batman, an estimated 2,000 people were taking part in a
>> > protest march when the unrest broke out.
>>
>> Have you seen the live footage, you son of a *tURk*! Obviously BBC got
>> their news from the turkish sources and this shows how reliable of the
>> turkish media...In the footage I have seen at least 200,000 people and
>> I basicly corrected the number which is not matter anyway because
>> everysingle government buildings are destroyed and police stations have
>> been demolished for good and it is still continues!
> Dream on... You lying sack of a PKK terrorist piggy.
>
> BTW, everything you post is reported and collected here:
> http://bbplus.ntlworld.com/NetReport/
> Soon you'll learn your judge...
F**** FASCIST peace of S***!
You NAZI Turks want to silence anyone exposing your BARBARISM and LIES!
You are not accustomed with free speech, you know only to suppress the
voices you don't like!
That was proved many times in the past, the Pamuk case is quite recent!
BTW, if you really think you can scare someone with your mumbo jumbo, then
you are more DUMB we thought initially:-)
You can't silence the voices who are telling the TRUTH about the Turkish
BESTIALITY!
Learn to live with it, everyone is going to know what kind of fascist you
are, all the doors will be closed for animals like you!
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
>> > A similar manipulation this guy also did to the VoiceOfAmerica article
>> > he had posted today.
>> >
>> > SEE HOW THE PROPAGANDA WORKS! THIS GUY IS A PAID LIAR!
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TOPIC: WSJ: Why Not Liberate the American Worker
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dff0702be9d23a69
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 7:35 am
From: nightwind
johnny@. wrote:
> hawat.thufir@gmail.com wrote:
>> tmurf.1 wrote:
>>> It is only a dream until it becomes a reality. It is clearly better
>>> for the worker. You have already said so. So why is it so hard to
>>> imagine that other workers would see the same thing? They have been
>>> told a pack of lies about unions for years by the companies. That is
>>> very hard to overcome but unions organizers are hard at work to change
>>> the common mis-perception that unions don't want any new members and
>>> that they are corrupt. I think unionism is cyclical and it is due for
>>> a great resurgence. The ironic thing is that companies will make this
>>> happen by screwing the very workers who made them multi-millionares.
>>> People will learn in time.
>>
>> Riddle me this: how is that not moot if the manufacturing base for the
>> US is moved overseas?
>>
>>
>> -Thufir
>>
> The population of the United States will remain the same, and the people
> will have to work somewhere, and they will work union.
Why would they work union? I have seen the union make promises they
can't possibly keep. They have bankrupted the auto industry, the airline
industry, and most of the formerly unionized trucking companies! These
are facts, so tell me why, again, everyone will be working union?
If this is true it portends bad things to come. An example of this is
France, with their stagnant economy, rampant poverty except for the
lucky few, and spoiled kids that riot every time the government makes a
decision that might improve things. These are the result of the union
policies of worker fairness! If you disagree, prove me wrong!
>
> As much as George Bush would like to see it happen, all the jobs in the
> United States can't be outsourced.
Why would President Bush *want* to see "all" jobs outsourced? Who then
would buy the products in this country? Nobody, because they wouldn't
have jobs to pay for them! Why, would President Bush want to see his
country become poverty stricken? He still lives here you know! Who is
paying his salary? Idiot, you really don't think your positions through
very clearly...do you.
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 5:52 am
From: "Capt. Bill"
nightwind wrote:
>Why would they work union? I have seen the union make promises they
>can't possibly keep. They have bankrupted the auto industry,
Wrong, that was done through poor executive business decisions
involving foreign competition. Done by non-union CEOs
> the airline
>industry,
Industry factors that include the high cost of fuel, and poor
management, not the unions
>and most of the formerly unionized trucking companies!
Again the high cost of fuel, and poor management.
>These
>are facts,
And you're facts are wrong.
>so tell me why, again, everyone will be working union?
Why not. Union workers have higher productivity, better safety records,
don't change jobs as often thus lowering the cost of training new
people.
>Why would President Bush *want* to see "all" jobs outsourced? Who then
>would buy the products in this country? Nobody, because they wouldn't
>have jobs to pay for them! Why, would President Bush want to see his
>country become poverty stricken? He still lives here you know! Who is
>paying his salary? Idiot, you really don't think your positions through
>very clearly...do you.
You really should ask George Bush that question because he is the
champion of foreign labor, or don't you read the news, like him?
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TOPIC: SOME CROOKS COPIED THE IRS- SITE PAGE
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/93c0f601e55bad74
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 1:59 pm
From: The Ghost In The Machine
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 01:46:37 -0500, PM wrote:
>
>
>
> If you get an email from the IRS, do not respond to it. According to
> today's paper, the IRS NEVER emails anyone. Apparently some crooks have
> copied the IRS web-site page exactly and are asking for personal
> information so you can get your refund.
> The IRS said it would never do that.
The Internal Revenue Service would be considered heavily brain-damaged
were they to use a sniffable protocol such as SMTP (port 25) anyway. They
might use it for a notification letter but even that's very risky,
especially if they put one's social security number thereon. SSMTP,
maybe, but I for one would be hard-pressed on my end to tell the diff,
mostly because I use POP download, like most ISP users.
Were I them I'd use certified USPS mail for most correspondence. :-)
--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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TOPIC: NO FREE RIDE ANY MORE!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/66b2a96e6aac1929
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 5:59 am
From: clifffreeling@yahoo.com
Jim E wrote:
> <clifffreeling@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1143728024.318163.101610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Jim E wrote:
> >> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >> news:zhJWf.1340$z7.378@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >
> >> > Three years ago an Israeli Army bulldozer -
> >>
> >> Squashed the liquid shit out of a islamizoid sympathizer.
> >>
> >> COOL !!
> >
> > Forty bucks says you eat boogers.>
>
> Alzheimer's reversion to kindergarten insults?
> Pathetic.
Forty bucks still says you eat boogers.
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
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TOPIC: SECURING THE KIKE REALM
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8dd1ed5cdcb29a1b
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 4:11 pm
From: Calife
Emanuel Appel wrote:
> "Calife" <user@user.net> wrote in message
> news:442c1ad1$0$18350$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> The true Jews remain faithful to Jewish belief and are not contaminated
>> with Zionism.
>
>
> It's cute of those who wish us ill to quote other stupid ahistorical Jews
> to push their anti Israel, anti Jewish agenda
Emanuel, I understand your predicament.
For decades, holocaust guilt and an efficacious portrayal of zionism as
some legitimate form of national liberation were all it took to keep
alive the myth of Israel as a grand, desirable and honor-bound reality.
WWII European generations were all too happy to "erase" their guilt in
Shoah with automatic and cost-free (to them) support for that great
"democracy", Israel: "After all, the Jews have suffered enough, and
deserve to have their own country if that is what they want" went the
reasoning.
But the endless movement of Time has slowly but surely moved these
generations onward, and has replaced them with younger ones who did not
live under Shoah's dark cloud. While the great majority do not deny
Shoah's reality, they don't necessarily feel guilty about what their
parents may or may not have done then. They also saw, heard and read
that there is indeed another side to that story, and the PLO was
instrumental in breaking the wall of guilty silence that surrounded the
zionist state. The development of video and satellite transmissions in
the '70s-'80s showed the world for the first time what it actually meant
to be a Palestinian living under the zionist yoke.
And all of a sudden, zionist zealots and their accomplices had to fight
uphill battles of ideas, make valid points if they could, and could no
longer consider themselves in conquered territory when the slightest
peep of protest aimed at one zionist horror or another could be
immediately silenced with the quick utterance of "Shoah" or "Holocaust",
or "Auschwitz"...
New munitions needed to be found, and the Orwellian world we live in
provided the answer: let's equate zionism with Jewishness, and
anti-zionism with antisemitism. Any critic of Israel and zionism would
henceforth be equated with Nazism and the extermination of Jews.
Of course, there have always been anti-zionist jews. For them, the
dismissive term of "self-hating Jew" was invented. With enough
repetition, this new twist helped the zionist propaganda "souflé" to
rise and hold up.
A beautiful mental set-up really
> The first Zionist was Abraham, the father of his people , who travelled
> from Iraq to the land of Israel. Then we have super Zionist , Moses, who
> took people out of Egypt to the land of Israel. Of course, Solomon, Saul,
> and David were also super Zionists.
All this "historical" background presumably coming from Torah/bible/old
testament. And you, Emanuel Appel, are allowed to pick chapters and
verses that suit your need of the moment. You can extol whatever
interpretation scores you points, and feel comfortable and vindicated in
your assumptions because "it's in the bible"!
A book where characters live hundreds of years, where the "begats"
happen at ripe old ages upward of a hundred years, where blood and gore
flow thick and red, and a slew of assorted obscurantist nonsense holds
sway. Yet, this "book", this compendium of asinine superstitions, this
"history of the chosen people" without a shred of pertinence in today's
world, is meant to be interpreted, used, clarified by Emanuel Appel and
his zionist friends as they see fit, yet others cannot.
(continued below)
> Who are the Neturei Karta? Ideological fundamentalists who are happy to
> sit, be raped, and wait for the Messiah to return so that they can be men.
> The vast majority of israel disagrees. Sit and die
Neturei Karta is not considered worthy of reading Torah as is, without
Emanuel Appel's interpretation. NT is called names (if not in this
specific thread, it's been done elsewhere), denigrated, un-men waiting
for Messiah: if NT is not "men", are you just short of calling them
"untermensch" maybe?
Appel's muscular reading of Torah is good and right, yet the Satmar Rav
Yoel Teitelbaum and his followers Amram Blau or Moshe Hirsch in NT are
not good enough to give their interpretation and deplore zionism.
Little did we know we had in Emanuel Appel a talmudic scholar of such
profoundity!
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TOPIC: Illegals: The Cure? Require 'Illegal Alien" Exclusion in Insurance
Policies
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/50d9d24ad2faadf1
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 6:13 am
From: pomponiox@hotmail.com
Just another American wrote:
> http://www.allanfavish.com/insurance_illegals.htm
>
> REQUIRE AN "ILLEGAL ALIEN" EXCLUSION IN INSURANCE POLICIES
>
> By Allan J. Favish*
>
> February 11, 2006
>
> Sometimes asking the right questions can lead to simple answers. Is
> there a wealthy segment of corporate America that can defeat the
> massive economic power of those who support illegal immigration?
No. Anyways, given that a quarter to a third of the native born
population is uninsured and that health care --unlike other civilized
countries-- is not considered a right, I think you have a defacto
"working poor" exclusion in insurance policies already in place.
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TOPIC: Good for you, Iran
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c207418ded7475f5
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 6:17 am
From: "Kevin G. Torkelson" <1kgtorkelson@dslextreme.com>
IRAN can even make a weapon, The Chinese and Russians make everything for
them.
<analyst41@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143806497.629528.226220@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1663678,00050004.htm
>
> Its a bit sad to celebrate a weapon, but fucking white people spend
> huge shares of their economy on weapons which are then used to
> intimidate and terrorize third world people. Then they get rid of
> older weapons by selling them at exorbitant prices to fool countries
> liek Saudi Arabia. Russian and the Chinks are in the same game,
> including so called peaceful, "Nordic" countries.
>
> Good that Iran can make this wepaon by itself and good if it restores
> the strategic military balance with Israel.
>
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