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Thursday, March 30, 2006

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Today's topics:

* What is Gender Feminism? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/89b5c69b70aedf93
* Fighting terrorism: Learn from the Turks! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e1f3354707a6067e
* Download 'The Line In The Sand'. See the Minutemen confront the immigration
invasion - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/1cf8281b22204a86
* 500,000 immigration advocates march in Los Angelos - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a7922568c71505bc
* IRAN PLANS 'WAR GAMES' IN THE PERSIAN GULF........ - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/42726506b667902e
* International Stuff - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5d1b6b36a66fef20
* Turkish Military Thugs Terrorize People of Amed in Northern Kurdistan. - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4adb18572bf1ea53
* Illegal Hispanic Immigration & rally in LA - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/965a78900803abba
* Iran plans 'war games' - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6b0bba95363bd28b
* Conservatives for 9/11 Truth - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7442d75baa2e1b2b
* Jai Maharaj posts http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6ecdcce8f5bdc3bf
* CLASH OF TWO AGGRESSIVE RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHIES - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b066e74782318365
* Notice, no bruthas in that Ask.com "man-apes" commercial. - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a1b418f80ad7c448
* Global Warming Now Irreversible. Capitalist Way of Life Responsible - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2660b5dca799b991
* White House photo: Vicente Fox takes his little pet monkey for a walk - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/df3f2b21f4a4c49b
* Immigration Protests Signal New Civil Rights Movement - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ad7955cf67ba4b9
* Objet: "Guevara, Anatomía de un Mito" - Documental sobre el "Che" - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9a68be581b096976
* Conceden libertad a bibliotecario independiente - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3e317e2222f6a655

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TOPIC: What is Gender Feminism?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/89b5c69b70aedf93
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 6:49 pm
From: "davidsands@yahoo.com"

TheSevenDeadlyJinns and/or OriginalJinn wrote something I don't
understand. Perhaps he/she/them/it/il can provide a key to this
inexplicability

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 3:25 am
From: "Non-humorous Jinn"

Now /I'm/ inscrutable?

At one time I had a gf that did phone-sex
for a living. I used to listen to her.

Amazing what some people di-dee-di-dee do.

--
AJ - http://clitin.com
(the biggest clit in pornetry)
Sat.Map: http://tinyurl.com/cjo5b

<davidsands@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1143773374.277360.21190@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> TheSevenDeadlyJinns and/or OriginalJinn wrote something I don't
> understand. Perhaps he/she/them/it/il can provide a key to this
> inexplicability
>

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TOPIC: Fighting terrorism: Learn from the Turks!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e1f3354707a6067e
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 6:51 pm
From: "umu"

Panta Rhei wrote:
> uhu@topkale.net writes:
>
> > Panta Rhei wrote:
> >> uhu@topkale.net writes:
> >>
> >>> Four-Way Windowpane wrote:
> >>>> umu wrote...
> >>>>> The American troops in Iraq can take a lesson from the Turkish Army on
> >>>>> how one has to deal with such unworthy pigs of terrorists!
> >>>>
> >>>> By throwing them in a dungeon and sodomizing them?
> >>>
> >>> Hmm. yeah, sounds a good idea! Thx!
> >>
> >> Of course you find sodomizing a good idea, you are a tURk. It's in your
> >> genes, Turkish lowlife! Your forefathers practiced it for hundreds of years.
> >
> > Everything YOU say can only be true, of course...
> > Hmm. but you Grekos lived fine for more than 600 yrs _under_ us...
> > without any problems. You are just unthankful for we let you live so
> > long at all.
>
> The EU and human rights organizations are keeping an eye on lowlife Turkey
> because of this well-known Turkish "custom", practiced in Turkish police
> stations and prisons!

Dont believe the tales others tell you. Turkey has many enemies like
you. Imagine what they do... The same like you: propaganda,
badmouthing, hate spech. Pick the ones you like...

> >> Keep such Turkish scum out of the EU!
> >
> > Who needs such a rasistic EU? Maybe you?
>
> Yeah, I want the EU to stay the progressive, civilized community that it is
> and that primitive, fascist and racist countries like Turkey will NEVER
> have a place in it!
> As the wise French said: NON A LA TURQUIE!

You just demonstrated your low level of human being.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 5:17 am
From: Panta Rhei

umu writes:

> Panta Rhei wrote:
>> uhu@topkale.net writes:
>>
>>> Panta Rhei wrote:
>>>> uhu@topkale.net writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Four-Way Windowpane wrote:
>>>>>> umu wrote...
>>>>>>> The American troops in Iraq can take a lesson from the Turkish Army on
>>>>>>> how one has to deal with such unworthy pigs of terrorists!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By throwing them in a dungeon and sodomizing them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. yeah, sounds a good idea! Thx!
>>>>
>>>> Of course you find sodomizing a good idea, you are a tURk. It's in your
>>>> genes, Turkish lowlife! Your forefathers practiced it for hundreds of years.
>>>
>>> Everything YOU say can only be true, of course...
>>> Hmm. but you Grekos lived fine for more than 600 yrs _under_ us...
>>> without any problems. You are just unthankful for we let you live so
>>> long at all.
>>
>> The EU and human rights organizations are keeping an eye on lowlife Turkey
>> because of this well-known Turkish "custom", practiced in Turkish police
>> stations and prisons!
>
> Dont believe the tales others tell you. Turkey has many enemies like
> you. Imagine what they do... The same like you: propaganda,
> badmouthing, hate spech. Pick the ones you like...

So you expect I rather believe a primitive Turkish arsehole like you than
the EU or human rights organizations! LMAO! Is their no limit to the
degradation of you fascist Turkish swines?

>>>> Keep such Turkish scum out of the EU!
>>>
>>> Who needs such a rasistic EU? Maybe you?
>>
>> Yeah, I want the EU to stay the progressive, civilized community that it is
>> and that primitive, fascist and racist countries like Turkey will NEVER
>> have a place in it!
>> As the wise French said: NON A LA TURQUIE!
>
> You just demonstrated your low level of human being.

You only demonstrate that are you nothing else than usual false, primitive,
brainwashed, fascist tURk. Something that should NEVER be allowed to join a
civilized community!

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TOPIC: Download 'The Line In The Sand'. See the Minutemen confront the
immigration invasion
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/1cf8281b22204a86
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 6:52 pm
From: bigscreen@operamail.com

..
Æ Gnostic Archon wrote:
> <bigscreen@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:1143772327.339423.171640@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Shabbos Goy Fucking Teenage Commie Jerkoff.
>
> As a Jew you must know what it's like to not have a home.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 6:58 pm
From: bigscreen@operamail.com

http://www.resist.com/CARTOON%20GALLERY/SPICS/spics_image09.jpg

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 7:29 pm
From: "Æ Gnostic Archon"

<bigscreen@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:1143773885.078379.288660@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.resist.com/CARTOON%20GALLERY/SPICS/spics_image09.jpg
>

I changed my last post:

As a Fascist you must know what it's like to not have a home.

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TOPIC: 500,000 immigration advocates march in Los Angelos
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a7922568c71505bc
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 6:55 pm
From: "Felix D." <#1Chekist@OGPU.org>

"Bo Raxo" <forensics@earthcorp.removethistoreply.com> wrote in message
news:E0ZWf.1203$i41.728@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> <aklon3@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:1143748555.689287.192180@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Bo Raxo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > But, you got the point, didn't you? Right?
> > > >
> > >
> > > That you're a racist who just assumes things in order to support your
> > > preconceived notions?
> > >
> > > Yeah, I got that. In spades, pardon the pun.
> >
> >
> > No, you didn't get it. We're talking *illegal aliens* and who gives a
> > shit what race color or creed they are? They're fukken ILLEGAL.
> >
>
> They committed a misdemeanor by illegally crossing the border. You're
> getting so worked up you'd think it was a murder.

Let's make it felony.

> Can you grasp that we create several million unskilled jobs, and a leaky
> border, knowing there are plenty of workers who will sneak across to take
> these jobs?

Then by al means let's let them come in LEGALLY.

> Do they arrest the farmers that employ them? The big agribusiness
companies?
> Do they slap the hotels with fines? Nope. It's a wink and a nod, so the
> racists will be able to whine, "it's illegal!" and the corporations can
> still get ultra-cheap labor that will never file a disability claim or
> collect sick leave.

And it's time to nail those companies that do this. They should not profit
from undermining America.

> > Your absolute blindness to this concept is astounding to behold. You've
> > outdone the rest of the Kool-Aid drinkers in here.
>
> You have drank the Kool Aid, blaming some guy who is obviously going to
> sneak over the border for a much better paying job. You want to blame
> somebody?

Yeah: I blame Mexico. That fucked up "patron" system, the PRI, all that
Spanish / latin politico-cultural structural bullshit that guarantees the
rich get richer while the poor have less and less. If things were good for
the people in Mexico, they wouldn't be coming here. Still, that does not
excuse their coming here ILLEGALLY. Stop 'em and turn 'em back. Let Mexico
have to take care of it's own people rather than sending them here, and
sooner or later there'll be a "correction" - dare we say "revolution"? - in
Mexico that will finally put things rights for the long suffering Mexican
people.

> Get mad at the corporations that get rich off of ultra cheap labor. Get
mad
> at the politicians (from both parties) that are hypocrites, leaving the
> border so leaky and then pretending to be shocked - shocked! - that a
> million or more people every year sneak across. Get mad at a system that
> somehow "can't" catch 8 or 10 or 12 MILLION undocumented workers, even
> though everyone is supposed to have a social security number.

I am angry, idiot. Can't you figure that out?

> Here's a hint. Illegal takes a job. Makes up a fake social security
> number. The taxes get withheld and sent to Washington, where the money
> can't be matched up to a valid SSN. Do you know what our mighty
government
> does? Nothing.

Good. No one should profit from being here ILLEGALLY.

> Now is that the fault of some poor worker from Guatemala? Or is it the
> fault of hypocrites in Washington.
>
> You're getting mad at the wrong people, you're getting played for a fool,
> and the corporations buy off Congressman and laugh their asses off as you
> spit and piss and moan that it's Jose's fault.

Nice bit of pretzel logic, foolish man, but no cigar. I'm not blaming the
individual ILLEGAL alien; I just want him sent home. I blame the Mexican
cultural and economic structure for failing to take care of it's citizens.
And that is manifestly NOT my problem.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 6:56 pm
From: "Felix D." <#1Chekist@OGPU.org>

"Kris Baker" <kris.baker@prodigyy.net> wrote in message
news:UWZWf.22437$NS6.2003@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
>
> "Chris Stainton" <Greaseband@keyboardss.Gov> wrote in message
> news:pSWWf.41$iu3.39@fe12.lga...
> >
> > ALL "Illegal Immigrants" are scum, and I only wish we really did have a
> > "smart bomb" to wipe them all out.
>
> How will we tell them apart from you?

Easy: we do sweeps. Not a citizen? No green card?

Good: off to and over the border with you, and that should be done pronto.

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TOPIC: IRAN PLANS 'WAR GAMES' IN THE PERSIAN GULF........
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/42726506b667902e
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 7:02 pm
From: "The Last 2455 days™ ♥"

FROM THE WEBSITE www.news24.com/

Iran plans 'war games'
29/03/2006 21:44 - (SA)

Farhad Pouladi

Tehran - Thousands of Iranian troops will on Friday start a week-long
military manoeuvre in the Gulf to ready armed forces for warding off
"threats", a senior commander announced on state television.

The commander of the navy of revolutionary guards corps, Rear-Admiral
Mostafa Safari, did not specify the nature of the threat although the
manoeuvre comes amid increasing tensions with the West over Tehran's
nuclear programme.

"The revolutionary guards corps navy and air force in collaboration
with (Iran's regular) army, navy, (the volunteer militia) Basij, and
the Iranian police will start a manoeuvre from 31 March until 6 April
in the Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman," he said.

Iran has two armed forces in which both have their own ground, naval
and air force all under the command of Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah
Ali Khamenei.

He added: "We hope ... We will gain the necessary and needed readiness
to decisively reply to any kind of threats."

"More than 17 000 soldiers and sailors will be used, along with 1 500
different kind of vessels, in addition to the different sorts of jet
fighter planes, choppers and different missiles," he added, but did not
say whether Iran will use its ballistic missiles.

Iran has medium-range Shahab-3 missiles with the capability of 2 000km,
able of hitting arch-enemy Israel and US bases across the Middle East.

"The exercise will cover an area stretching from the northern tip of
the Persian Gulf all the way to the port city of Chah-Bahar in the Sea
of Oman extending 40km into the sea," he said.

In addition, the spokesperson of the manoeuvres, Rear-Admiral Mohammad
Ebrahim Dehghan told state television that the strait of Hormouz will
be one of the focal points of the exercise.

"Some 80% of the Persian Gulf's oil is shipped out of this strait over
which Iran has dominant and accurate control," he said.

"If the enemy wants to make the area insecure, he should be rest
assured that he will also suffer from the insecurity, since we know the
location of their vessels," he added.

On Wednesday, Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov warned that any
attempt at using force or coercion to resolve the standoff over Iran's
nuclear programme would be counter-productive.

"Any ideas about a coercive, forceful solution to the issue are highly
counter-productive and cannot be supported," Lavrov told reporters in
Moscow.

Iran's defence minister, Mostafa Mohammad Najjar, said nearly two
months ago that Islamic republic will give an "extremely quick and
destructive response" to any attack against its nuclear facilities.

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TOPIC: International Stuff
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5d1b6b36a66fef20
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 7:11 pm
From: "marika"

Frank Kalder wrote:

>
> > > That's obviously a real annoying and ambiguous situation...

it's not entirely ambiguous. They tried to rewrite the job so I could
fit the qualifications, but they were not able to so I don't get the
job. Instead they get to fill it with someone else and I will sit at
less pay doing the same job til they fill it.

> >
> > yeah and my old job in roanoke called today to figure out when i would
> > be back. i wouldn't commit
> >
> > maybe july I said, which is when my lease expires anyway
> >
>
> Thus, you are earmarked to return to Weiners & Co :)

that's about the size of it

> >
> > 'Ab yul ann I dyad awt
> > En yab na log a toc na awd
> > Taw may on omma dawn egg kyowl
> > Omma dawn egg kyowl"--mike oldfield, ommadawn
> >
> Sounds somehow MYSTIC, though...
>
> You may recall I reported on HEIDI KLUM'S TOPMODEL casting show on
> Pro7. Yesterday we had a very fascinating and charming winner:
> LENA GERCKE (18)
> http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING_Deutsch/msg/b25bd495067a95ad
>

cool

>
> But I'm not only watching talented beauties as you may see here
> http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING_Deutsch/msg/45005c4bc6cb887d
>
> - it's on future ENERGY (1/ ASTHROS) and TRANSPORTATION (2/ RAILTAXI)
>
> SYSTEMS (1+2 = ASTRAIL).
>
> >
>

that's the weirdest math I have ever seen

1/asthros

so asthros/asthros = 1

in the

"Systems (1 +2) formula"

this higher math really can't be accomplished after a number of vodkas

I actually had planned to do this event for some time. I actually took
20 minutes off from work today, rather than adding five hours to may
work day

We went to the Ukrainian embassy for a voda tasting.

We had quite a number of vodkas, my favorite turned out to be the Birch
Vodka.

Birch was the filter, you can find many links to this.

We had the most incredible sumptuous feast prepared by the embassy
staff

varennyky (dumplings), holubtsi (stuffed cabbage), mushrooms, kovbasa
(aka kielbasa as in not weiners or wieners as in bigger better and
juicier), lots of salmon, lots of salmon roe

I met the attache and his sfaff
Some of them thought I was a native and I found that in spite of not
practicing I can still really speak it. If I were exposed to it for a
while longer I would pick up the accents again.

It was fun.

mk5000

"he loves sausages. I struck a deal with him where I would give him
sausages in exchange for the keys to the studio. That went on until
his freezer couldn't hold any more sausages"--Rupert Lyddon of Grand
National about Andrew Innes of Primal Scream

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TOPIC: Turkish Military Thugs Terrorize People of Amed in Northern Kurdistan.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4adb18572bf1ea53
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 3:12 am
From: "Ali Asker"

Turkish Military Besieges The Kurdish City Of Amed

AFP & AP

Amed, (Northern Kurdistan), March 30, 2006 - A boy was fighting for his
life in hospital Thursday after being wounded by gunfire in a third straight
day of deadly Kurdish riots in southeastern Turkey, medical sources said.

He was injured after some 10,000 people took to the streets of Diyarbakir,
the main city of the mainly Kurdish region, for the funerals of three people
killed earlier in some of the worst street battles there for years.

Prosecutors in the city of Diyarbakir have opened an inquiry into
allegations that pro-Kurdish politicians there have backed the Kurdish
insurrection, a legal source said Thursday.

Those being investigated include Osman Baydemir, the mayor of the city and a
member of the main pro-Kurdish organisation, the Party for a Democratic
Society (DTP), who earlier this week told young rioters he respected their
"courage" but asked them to stop defying the law.

Two provincial leaders Ahmet Cengiz and Murat Avci are also being
investigated.

The crowd pelted the police with stones after a religious ceremony for the
victims, prompting security forces to respond with tear gas and warning
shots in the air.

Witnesses said a boy, aged around eight, was hit in the chest by a bullet.
Meidcal sources said his life was in danger.

At least another person was seriously injured, an AFP correspondent said.

Dozens of riot police, backed by armored vehicles, deployed near the mosque
where the funeral ceremony was performed, while commandos armed with
automatic rifles and wearing black ski masks kept watch in the streets.

The dead included a demonstrator, a nine-year-old boy hit by a bullet while
watching the trouble from a roof and a man killed in a traffic accident
while running from the melee.

Hundreds of Kurdish youths went on the rampage in Diyarbakir on Tuesday and
Wednesday, attacking police with stones and petrol bombs and vandalizing
shops and public buildings.

Around 250 people, half of them police, were injured and 200 demonstrators
detained in the two days of rioting, officials said.

The violence spilled over Thursday to the nearby town of Batman, where the
rioters fire-bombed a bank and ransacked the office of a far-right
nationalist party, the Anatolia news agency said.

Television footage showed black smoke billowing from a building as riot
police fired pepper gas at protestors hurling stones and petrol bombs.

Clashes also took place in an Istanbul suburb late Wednesday.

In Diyarbakir, the mourners brandished flags of the separatist Kurdistan
Workers' Party (PKK), which has fought Ankara since 1984, chanted slogans in
favor of jailed PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan and stoned journalists.

Shop owners kept their businesses closed, fearing vandalism and reprisals
from Kurdish militants who often put pressure on locals to close down shops
as a show of defiance against state authority.

Tuesday's violence erupted after the funerals of four of 14 PKK rebels who
had been killed fighting the army over the weekend.

Kurdish politicians have blamed the riots on Ankara's failure to meet their
demands for greater freedoms.

Senior military, police and civilian authorities said in a statement after
an anti-terrorism meeting Thursday that they had decided to take "all
necessary measures within the limits of laws and democracy to struggle with
separatism and terrorism, and implement them with absolute determination."

In an address to the nation, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan urged
citizens "not to pay attention to the provocations and propaganda of the
terrorist organizations."

"Nobody should dare to harm our internal peace," Erdogan said. "Turkey will
continue to improve its democracy, human rights and freedoms, and cannot be
subjugated by these harmful attempts."

There has been a resurgence of violence since June 2004, when the rebels
declared an end to a cease-fire, accusing Turkey of not responding in kind
and refusing rebel calls for dialogue.

"If someone is expecting us to bargain, they are waiting in vain," Erdogan
told reporters. "We can't tolerate any illegal action."

Keen to boost its bid to join the European Union, Ankara has made a series
of gestures to the Kurds, including allowing Kurdish-language broadcasts and
private language courses, but activists want broader rights.

http://www.kurdistanobserver.com/

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TOPIC: Illegal Hispanic Immigration & rally in LA
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/965a78900803abba
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 7:12 pm
From: "Komin"

Western United States belonged to the Hispanic speaking People

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 4:15 am
From: Vernon North

In article <1143774756.397162.120100@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
veakrin@gmail.com says...
> Western United States belonged to the Hispanic speaking People
>
. . . who took it from the aboriginals.

Verno

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TOPIC: Iran plans 'war games'
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6b0bba95363bd28b
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 7:12 pm
From: "Moshe the Kosher Honey-baked ham loving Pig™"

FROM THE WEBSITE www.news24.com/

Iran plans 'war games'
29/03/2006 21:44 - (SA)

Farhad Pouladi

Tehran - Thousands of Iranian troops will on Friday start a week-long
military manoeuvre in the Gulf to ready armed forces for warding off
"threats", a senior commander announced on state television.

Iran has two armed forces in which both have their own ground, naval
and air force all under the command of Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah
Ali Khamenei.

He added: "We hope ... We will gain the necessary and needed readiness
to decisively reply to any kind of threats."

say whether Iran will use its ballistic missiles.

Iran has medium-range Shahab-3 missiles with the capability of 2 000km,

able of hitting arch-enemy Israel and US bases across the Middle East.

"The exercise will cover an area stretching from the northern tip of
the Persian Gulf all the way to the port city of Chah-Bahar in the Sea
of Oman extending 40km into the sea," he said.

In addition, the spokesperson of the manoeuvres, Rear-Admiral Mohammad
Ebrahim Dehghan told state television that the strait of Hormouz will
be one of the focal points of the exercise.

"Some 80% of the Persian Gulf's oil is shipped out of this strait over
which Iran has dominant and accurate control," he said.

"If the enemy wants to make the area insecure, he should be rest
assured that he will also suffer from the insecurity, since we know the

location of their vessels," he added.

On Wednesday, Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov warned that any
attempt at using force or coercion to resolve the standoff over Iran's
nuclear programme would be counter-productive.

"Any ideas about a coercive, forceful solution to the issue are highly
counter-productive and cannot be supported," Lavrov told reporters in
Moscow.

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TOPIC: Conservatives for 9/11 Truth
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7442d75baa2e1b2b
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 11:19 am
From: pluto

"On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:33:02 +1030, artie morty <artiemorty@yahoo.com.au>
wrote/and/or quoted:
>>
>>"artie morty" <artiemorty@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:uadn22pgrkst953pimp0li21kksona38i2@4ax.com...
>>But lo and behold....what happened?
>>guilianni conveniently carted the very evidence
>>right under everybody's noses in LORRIES and
>>BARGES and nobody bats an eyelid.

>I have always found the American people (not the government, the
>actual population) to be honest and forthwright, Those I have met were
>simply nice, decent folks.
>
>It just does not add up that the general population would be happy
>with, or party to a cover-up or a poor investigation.
>
>So what happened?
>
>Artie...

hmm artie and observer,
very interesting observations.
i have not thought of this steel business being carted post haste.
is this another "conspiracy theory" on the rise?
how come this discussion does not include some "experts" in
soc.culture.thai?? ;-)))

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-pluto

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TOPIC: Jai Maharaj posts http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
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Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 3:25 am
From: usenet@mantra.com20n and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

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Jai Maharaj
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http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: CLASH OF TWO AGGRESSIVE RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHIES
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Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 3:28 am
From: usenet@mantra.com8d and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

A suggestion worthy of serious consideration.

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

In article <TxYWf.8883$9h5.7272@dukeread09>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> asia should be declared monotheism-free zone. kinda like the europe.
>
>
> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>
> > Clash of Two Aggressive Religious Philosophies
> >
> > By Hari Sud
> > March 21, 2006
> >
> > Christianity and Islam have common roots. They both
> > originated roughly in the same geographical area.
> > Christianity owes its origin to the Romans and King
> > Harold's atrocities on the people of the Jewish state of
> > Judea (modern day Israel) and corrupt Temple culture in
> > Jerusalem. Early Christians were hounded out of Israel
> > but found followers in Syria, Egypt and Rome. The very
> > existence of Christian cult in Rome angered the Roman,
> > hence their atrocities. They did not hesitate to feed
> > them to the loins in the Coliseum. But the resilient
> > nature of the Christian philosophy attracted more
> > followers, until a Roman general named Constantine was
> > promised victory over his adversaries and the crown of
> > Rome, should he become a Christian. He followed the
> > advice and triumphed in the battle and later became
> > Emperor Constantine. Later the whole Roman Empire was
> > decried to become Christian. More wars were fought in the
> > name of Christianity by later Roman emperors, to win
> > Christian converts all over the Roman world. Thus
> > Christianity began a fiery start in and around the
> > Mediterranean Sea and spread to northern and eastern
> > Europe. Although written and propagated Christian
> > philosophy is gentle and pleasant, yet its propagation is
> > nothing but gentle. They fought two hundred years of war
> > in the 11th and 12th century to wrest control of
> > Jerusalem from the other aggressive religion i.e. Islam.
> > Elsewhere in South America, Africa and India, Christian
> > soldiers fighting for the faith and riches slaughtered a
> > whole lot of people to win over converts. In India, in
> > 1857 a similar attempt was unsuccessful because the
> > existing religious beliefs were too strong and a similar
> > slaughter instead of winning converts could have ended
> > the British domination. Here they put commercial
> > interests ahead of religious interests.
> >
> > Islam, the other religion has its roots in the Middle
> > East. It originated not far from Jerusalem. Arabs and
> > Jews are neighbor and sons of the same Father. The former
> > had no religion for 1700 years, although the Jews had a
> > thriving religious philosophies starting from the days of
> > Exodus from Egypt in about 1100BC. The Arabs wished the
> > same. They got their wish in the 7th century AD when God
> > appeared to Prophet Muhammad and revealed Koran to him.
> > The Prophet immediately set about winning converts to his
> > faith in Arabia. War on the infidels was the only way to
> > win converts hence He fought wars within Arabia and asked
> > his followers to spread the word of God outside Arabia,
> > using war as one tool. Later they snatch away Jerusalem,
> > from the Jews and the Christians. The followers of the
> > Prophet Mohammed even after His ascent to the heaven
> > continued their quest for converts and land. In just one
> > hundred years, Arabs had conquered all lands from Spain
> > to Western India. This by any historical account is a
> > remarkable feet. All the conquered nations were converted
> > to their faith. Refusal meant certain death.
> > Consolidation of this landmass, with different cultures
> > under Arabic rule resulted in intellectual curiosity and
> > transfer of ideas from one culture to the other.
> > Mathematics and Astronomy was learnt in India. Politics
> > Science and philosophy was learnt from Greeks. All these
> > ideas were translated, developed and taught to backward
> > Christian nations in Europe.
> >
> > Both the above religions together with Jewish religion
> > have one common denominator i.e. the city of Jerusalem.
> > Each claims this city as its own. Each is prepared to
> > shed blood to keep it under its control. The Crusades of
> > 11th and 12th century were inter-faith religious warfare
> > where Christian Europe sent armies to liberate Jerusalem
> > from the Islamic Arab control. The latter did not give it
> > up easily to the invading Christian armies. Warfare of
> > 200 years ensued and remained inconclusive. Christians
> > wasted their energies and manpower to conquer Jerusalem
> > but gave it up in the end as a difficult task. Muslim
> > claimed it as a great victory. Later both religions
> > settled down to consolidate. Muslim expanded in India &
> > Far East and Christianity in Eastern Europe & American
> > continent. Whereas the Muslim won their wars on a
> > horseback, the Christians took to the sea. Each with war
> > on other nations expanded its domination and in the
> > process, converts.
> >
> > For the next 800 years after Crusades, political and
> > religious situation in Jerusalem stayed quite. An uneasy
> > peace was maintained by the two religions. Muslim even
> > tried to conquer Christian Europe but were turned back by
> > the French King "Martel the Hammer" in the 8th century
> > and later the combined might of Central Europeans under
> > Austria halted the free march of the Ottoman Turks
> > (Muslims) in 16th and 17th century. All these wars were
> > inconclusive; hence animosity between the two faiths did
> > not halt, but was given a brief respite. The point is
> > that all through the Middle Ages to the modern times
> > there has been an uneasy peace between Christians and
> > Muslims. The Christian armies (the West) triumphed in the
> > 20th century by defeating the Muslim Turks in WWI. The
> > latter had ruled Arabia and all Muslim states in and
> > around it for the last 500 years. Muslim forces uneasy
> > with these developments preached Jihad. The latter
> > without resources was an empty threat. Money came into
> > the Muslim pockets with oil and gas discoveries in the
> > Middle East after WWII. The latter was a heaven sent
> > opportunity for Muslim to arm and get even the Christian
> > West. That is what is happening today in the Middle East.
> > Although circumstances are a bit different but purpose is
> > same i.e. two great religions are trying to slug it out
> > for supremacy.
> >
> > So, What happened after the WWII?
> >
> > Events, which followed the WWII, have shaken the world in
> > the last 50 years. The state of Israel was formed right
> > in the middle of the Muslim Palestine in 1949. The angry
> > Romans had expelled Jews in the 1st century AD. Since
> > then they had wandered from place to place and country to
> > country, looking for a permanent home. Everywhere they
> > went, a welcome mat was extended initially and then was
> > withdrawn. This happened again in Germany during the WWII
> > and resulted in the Holocaust. Now the Jews wished to
> > return to the Palestine and reclaim their promised land
> > including Jerusalem. The Jews from 1950 to 1967 with open
> > warfare defeated inept Muslim armies and the state of
> > Israel was firmly established. Muslim Arabs living on
> > those lands were expelled. The Jews claimed these lands
> > are their own as the "Promised Land" given to them by
> > God.
> >
> > The fuse for open warfare between Jews and Muslim was lit
> > one more time. This time it was over Jewish occupation of
> > lands settled by Muslim 1500 years back. Christian Europe
> > and America sided with the Jewish state. Muslim world
> > (about 1 Billion and a quarter of them) favored their
> > brethren in Palestine. This made them enemies of the Jews
> > and Christians. Some Muslim monarchies in the Middle East
> > who managed to stay friendly with the Americans and the
> > Europe lost their clout with the masses and became
> > figurehead under the eyes of their populace. Later, they
> > adopted a novel attitude. At home they professed to be
> > devout Muslim. Abroad they became puppets of Christian
> > Europe and America.
> >
> > Present day Christian-Jewish combine and its conflict
> > with Muslim is as a result of above happenings in last 50
> > years. Jihad against the former was preached in the
> > Mosques and in open public squares to get the population
> > roused for a fight. The conditions of the earlier
> > Crusades were made ready. Christian armies under one
> > pretext or the other invaded Middle East. May it is in
> > Palestine or Iraq or Afghanistan or Beirut or Suez Canal,
> > it was Crusade for the Muslim. Muslim brotherhood could
> > not allow this to happen. They banded together to resist
> > it. The latter very smartly took the fight to Christian
> > lands in the form of 9/11 or Madrid/London bombings or
> > simply blowing out the West's commercial passenger planes
> > out of the skies. In addition, looking for a fight, the
> > Muslim simply created uproar on any issue including a
> > silly row over Prophet Mohammed's cartoon or alleged
> > incident in which a copy of Koran was flushed down the
> > toilet in US. They were letting the Christians know that
> > Muslim are alive and kicking and are prepared for another
> > 200 years of fight.
> >
> > Hence, the Present Situation in the Middle East
> >
> > No matter what the merits of each other's case, it is a
> > fight of two aggressive religions, which have common
> > roots but have never seen eye to eye with each other.
> > Muslim resent occupation of their land. May it be
> > temporary as in Iraq or Afghanistan or permanent as in
> > case of Jerusalem? These occupations are the root cause
> > of today's fight. Efforts of the over confident west so
> > far have met a bloody noose. The Mullah in the Mosque has
> > grabbed lead among the Muslim masses. Today the Mullah
> > has acquired both political as well as religious power.
> > This happened mainly due to the decline of political
> > influence of kings, sheikhs and amirs over their
> > subjects. The latter were seen too cozy to the West. The
> > masses believe that the Mullah in the Mosque is
> > uncorrupt, pure and true believer. They are prepared to
> > die for a cause if he gives the call. Christians on the
> > other hand have moved away from this concept. The Church
> > has been separated from the politics; hence the Church
> > cannot give a call to arms as they did 800 years back.
> > This lead now belongs in the hand of the politicians. The
> > latter is not in any means less aggressive than the Popes
> > and the Bishops as is evident from the happenings of last
> > 50 years. The difference is that Popes and Bishop served
> > only religious interest; the politicians serve commercial
> > interest also. Hence commercial conquest of the world is
> > the buzzword for US & Europe. This interest of the West
> > has coincided with the Jewish desire to retake the Holy
> > Land after 2000 years absence. This has re-ignited the
> > dormant fight. Add to this, the west's desire to grab all
> > the oil and gas from the region by hook or by crook, we
> > have the making of a major fight. In the process the
> > Muslim are too delighted to grab as much money as
> > possible from the West by selling oil and gas at a high
> > price and give it to the Mullah to continue fight with
> > the Christian armies.
> >
> > Guts and blood of Muslim is Scaring the Christian Armies
> > Away
> >
> > Unable to fight the invading Christian armies face to
> > face, Mullahs exhorted the faithful to stand up to the
> > West and fight an unconventional warfare. A noble method
> > of suicide bombing was invented. The, would be bomber was
> > told the fairy tale of virgins and honey waiting for him
> > in the heavens. The political leadership of the day in
> > the Muslim world was unable to prevent this from
> > happening. They stepped aside. As in Iraq and in
> > Palestine, everyday bombing and slitting of the throat of
> > the invaders and the local collaborators has became an
> > everyday affair. Terror struck outsiders is having
> > difficult time even to stay and look friendly. They are
> > awe struck by the shear audacity of the young men and
> > women who strap explosive belts at the urging of the
> > Mullah and carry out their acts. The Western armies have
> > no response to it. It is just a matter of time that
> > Vietnam War or Soviet Afghanistan War type withdrawal
> > will be announced by the invaders. As in the previous
> > Crusades, the Muslim will claim another victory.
> >
> > Why has the West Stupid Enough Not to see this Happening?
> >
> >
> > The western military and political leaders simply did not
> > connect the small happenings in the Muslim world, which
> > indicated that the political leadership has lost control
> > and hardliner Mullahs are in-charge. It had happened in
> > Iran 25 years back. It had happened in Palestine and in
> > Lebanon where Mullahs were in control. The West stayed
> > oblivious to these happenings and decided to march into
> > Iraq in 1991 and 2003. A few over confident officials in
> > Washington thought that Iraq is an easy prize. By simply
> > unseating its unpopular leader they thought that they
> > will accomplice the dual task of getting Oil as well as
> > the goodwill of the people. They could not be more wrong.
> > Removal of Saddam Hussein from the leadership resulted in
> > handing over power to the firebrand Shia leaders. The
> > elected leaders and the new constitution in Iraq became a
> > joke. The Iraqis want neither. All they want is for the
> > West to leave. The foregoing is not good for the rest of
> > the world. It has made Mullahs stronger.
> >
> > Another democratic exercise in Palestinians has thrown
> > the secular leadership out in favor of hardliner,
> > religious Hamas movement. Today, if a democratic exercise
> > is held in Pakistan, the same result will be evident.
> > Hence Muslim masses have better faith in the Mullahs than
> > in the westernized, highly educated and urbane civil
> > government. This shift will ultimately force the US to
> > withdraw from Middle East, permanently. What happens in
> > the aftermath of withdrawal is anybody's guess. Iraq is
> > getting ready for a civil war. Other countries in the
> > neighborhood will witness similar unrest and internal
> > turmoil. In the end a new more aggressive society will
> > emerge.
> >
> > Can anybody prevent this from happening?
> >
> > No, because internal sectarian forces which were in check
> > for centuries have been let loose. These forces will
> > fight among themselves first and then the West. The world
> > will be unstable ever more. Net impact, more terrorism
> > and escalating oil prices.
> >
> > Cartoon Upheaval in the last few Weeks.
> >
> > It is pity that cooler heads do not prevail in the West.
> > A silly notion of freedom of press, which is applicable
> > to Western and Christian democratic societies, has been
> > used to offend Muslim religious feelings. Muslim is
> > neither democratic nor free. This part has not been well
> > understood in the West. If the latter were smart enough
> > they would have ended this argument a long time back. All
> > they got to do is to punish the editor, apologize for
> > offending somebody's religious sentiment and cease &
> > desist in the future. The West did neither. They are too
> > overconfident of their economic and military prowess that
> > they find apology beneath their dignity. Even the Pope,
> > the Head of the largest Christian gathering did nothing
> > to assuage the hurt, which the Muslim were expressing. As
> > a religious leader he should use his influence and advise
> > the hot heads in the politics that offending religious
> > sensitivities of anybody will draw the masses together in
> > protest. This fact has been lost on them and Pope did
> > nothing to cool the situation except a minor assertion
> > here or there. So the Muslim protest goes on. Mullah's
> > clout is getting stronger by the day. Very soon on one
> > argument or another similar situation will completely
> > overthrow the local pro-west political leaders. Then the
> > fight will take a much more ugly turn.
> >
> > Are any of Them About to Back Down?
> >
> > Jews in Israel, Christian military and political
> > adventures there and the Muslim inhabitants of the Middle
> > East are not about to back down. Jews have nowhere else
> > to go. US and Europe for the next 40 years are in an
> > urgent need of oil; hence they will keep on politicking
> > in the region. All this will keep the Muslim masses at
> > the boil and in a state of turmoil. Occasional showdown
> > is inevitable. Superior military prowess of the West will
> > keep them in driver's seat. Muslim will use suicide
> > bomber as their F-16s, to strike terror in the hearts &
> > minds of the invading forces. In the end when everybody
> > has had enough, the major sufferers, the Jewish state of
> > Israel will look for a way out. They are kind of boxed
> > in. The occupation of Jerusalem by them is the rally
> > point for the Muslim masses. Rightly the latter has been
> > compared to Jerusalem's occupation during the Crusades.
> > Wrongly the West has supported this occupation. Hence all
> > odds are stacked in favor of continued fight, until one
> > backs down. As the Jewish state watches lessening
> > influence of the West, they will reach an accommodation.
> > Likelihood of Muslim loosing, are lower. They have time
> > on their side. With Mullahs in control they can continue
> > the fight as long as it takes.
> >
> > When the above is going on, other nations and cultures in
> > the region like India will have a bit of a respite. That
> > is the time India needs to grow out of poverty and make
> > India an attractive place to live.
> >
> > Hari Sud
> >
> > End of forwarded message from:
> >
> > http://www.indiacause.com/columns/OL_060321.htm
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> >
> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > http://www.hindu.org
> > http://www.hindunet.org
> >
> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> >
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TOPIC: Notice, no bruthas in that Ask.com "man-apes" commercial.
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Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 10:24 pm
From: Taylor

obbzerver@yahoo.com wrote:

> That commerical for Ask.com where it shows the internet cafe with the
> inhabitants all done up like apes - notice not a negroid in the bunch.
> Got at least one oriental that I can discern, but no darkies.
>
> I guess the PC police were on patrol, making sure they don't dast make
> any simian insinuations regarding the melanin-enhanced.
>

Anything to do w/ the Geico ads?

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TOPIC: Global Warming Now Irreversible. Capitalist Way of Life Responsible
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Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 7:41 pm
From: "Turin"

Stormy wrote:
> Turin wrote:
> > "Short Little George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> retreated:
> > > Turin wrote:
> > > > "Irrelevant George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote:
> > > > > Turin wrote:
> > > > > > "Curious George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Turin wrote:
> > > > > > > > "Cracker George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:zDDWf.151$Q8.16@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Turin" <TurinTurambar.1@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > news:1143667915.694378.100380@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks to a century of large-scale oil consumption in the greedy West,
> > > > > > > > > > we can all now look forward to winter tornados, marvelous new forms of
> > > > > > > > > > skin cancer, a missing Amazon, and maybe a few hibernating dinosaurs
> > > > > > > > > > waking up for lunch.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > While industrial Russia, China & India are also cosidered "the greedy
> > > > > > > > > > West"?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, take a look at the global methane map:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.universetoday.com/am/uploads/2005-0318methane-full.jpg
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As they say: A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing (in the
> > > > > > > > hands of a redneck).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Oh, and while you are at it, take a look at the Chinese dust storm circling
> > > > > > > > > the globe:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/natural_hazards_v2.php3?img_id=1622
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > hahaha .....whatever that's supposed to mean
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/06/0601_chinadust.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > dude. you should get a job as the oracle of delphi ...hahaha
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No thanks. I prefer my job as a geologist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lmao, that's a good one, too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just don't quit that job as a troll...
> > > > >
> > > > > Excuse me. I mistook you for a human being. My mistake.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Haha, I sure love slapping down these timid little "patriots".
> > >
> > > When you finally graduate from kindergarten, let me know. I'll be sure to
> > > send a congratulatory card.
> >
> >
> > Hahaha ....poor little nobody troll, named George.
> > I win another round.
> >
>
> George is obviously another leading expert in knowing nothing Turin
> LOL

Hahaha, Hey Stormy, babe. What's up..?

That's true. I've run across him and other little old punks like him,
before. They never know anything but how to troll, via snipping and
hurling their sickly peanuts. I think it must be what happens to the
brain after years of those after-work beers.

Bush almost has those little shit-balls in his clutches, too. Pretty
soon, capitalism is going to heave it's last. All of their toys are
going to be taken away. Workers' paradise is on the way, babe......

> Stormy
>
> >
> > > 1 Pissed-off Little George
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, there's nothing like picking one up by the scruff of the neck,
> > > > shaking him good and listening for each wet plop of shit fill his
> > > > underwear, while he shies from your intense city-boy eyes.
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile his little A-K sits at home, unused ...hahaha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - - -
> > > >
> > > > The face of an angel, the charm of the devil
> > > > ...the power of a god:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Turin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have such sites to show you...
> > > > ------------------------
> > > >
> > > > http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------
> > > >
> > > > "He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
> > > > maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
> > > > burn in hell forever and ever...."
> > > >
> > > > -----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > George
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geologic George
> > > > > > > College of Knowledge, U of Bullshit
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Curious George
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "It's absurd. How can I set free anyone who doesn't have the guts to
> > > > > > > > stand up alone and declare his own freedom?"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ~ Jim Morrison
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - - -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Few can dispute him. Even fewer dare...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Turin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have such sites to show you...
> > > > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
> > > > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
> > > > > > > > maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
> > > > > > > > burn in hell forever and ever...."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > >

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TOPIC: White House photo: Vicente Fox takes his little pet monkey for a walk
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 7:47 pm
From: Sheldon Levine

>
Chimp.
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/images/20060330-2_d-0386-515h.html
>
>

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TOPIC: Immigration Protests Signal New Civil Rights Movement
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ad7955cf67ba4b9
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 3:59 am
From: "Docky Wocky"

Don't we have any Abrahms tanks in this country? Even some of the older
ones? All they have to do is run and be tanks

One guaranteed way to get the point across that we don't want any illegal
aliens demonstrating, en mass, and whining about their non-existent civil
rights is to run them over with some tanks. The Chinese showed us this is a
great way to get things back in perspective.

Sometimes you just got to be firm when you want to impress folks. Our
current political leaders are not very firm and are basically appeasers of
the worst kind. Just look at what the weasels did today.

So much for the new American civil rights movement. The left is just
slobbering to get itself into the role of champion of the civil rights of
illegal aliens. Patriotic Americans can can take care of them, too, by
hog-tying a lot of them on the front glacis of the tanks, then cut them
loose as the tank wades into the demonstrators.

We will need a whole new set of politicans, too. Folks just got to
understand this is a low-level war, against us.

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TOPIC: Objet: "Guevara, Anatomía de un Mito" - Documental sobre el "Che"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9a68be581b096976
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 11:04 am
From: "PM"

"Guevara, Anatomía de un Mito" es un documental sobre
la vida y la conducta política del guerrillero
argentino Ernesto Guevara, en el que ex miembros del
Movimiento 26 de Julio, del Ejército Rebelde e
historiadores ofrecen sus testimonios sobre la
controversial figura del "Che", inclusive sobre su
afición por ejecutar a enemigos politicos. La película
se encuentra hospedada en el sitio web de la Unión
Liberal Cubana, fundada en España por el escritor y
periodista cubano Carlos Alberto Montaner.

El documental fue producido por Caiman Productions y
el Instituto de la Memoria Histórica Cubana; la
dirección general es de Luis Guardia, la producción de
Pedro Corzo y la coordinación general de Francisco
Lorenzo.

"Guevara, Anatomía de un Mito" - Hacer click en el
enlace siguiente:
http://www.cubaliberal.org/videos/CHE_AnatomiadeunMito.wmv

Duración: Una hora y 10 minutos.

Muchas gracias, saludos,

Contacto Magazine
http://www.contactomagazine.com

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que piensa, no es un hombre honrado. Un hombre que obedece a un mal
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TOPIC: Conceden libertad a bibliotecario independiente
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3e317e2222f6a655
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 30 2006 11:03 am
From: "PM"

Objet: Conceden libertad a bibliotecario independiente

www.Bibliocuba.org

José Antonio Mola Porro director de la Biblioteca Independiente Pedro Luís
Boitel de Camaguey fue puesto en libertad el día 1 de marzo del presente,
después de haber cumplido con un período de 10 meses de cautiverio en la
prisión provincial Kilo 9 en la mencionada provincia. Informó desde esa
localidad Juan Carlos González Leiva Presidente de la Fundación Cubana de
Derechos Humanos y Coordinador del Proyecto de Bibliotecas Independientes de
Cuba en Ciego de Ávila

Amplia la fuente que José Antonio fue condenado a dos años de privación de
libertad el 24 de mayo del 2005 bajo el cargo de Peligrosidad Social Pre
delictiva, causa que no permite libertad extra penal, pero cuando se
considera al acusado no peligroso se le concede la libertad sin que tenga
que continuar con la imposición fiscal.

José Antonio Mola Porro es además activista de cultura de la Fundación
Cubana de Derechos Humanos en Camagüey y Delegado a la Asamblea para
Promover la Sociedad Civil.

Proyecto de Bibliotecas Independientes de Cuba
Colaboración de carlos Oyarce

José Martí

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