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* Senate Bill Would Legalize Bush's Illegal Spying - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9a16ff35d6d8b190
* My Lai-Style Massacres in Iraq? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/584562153edbd330
* Belarus: Official Statements on Pres'l Election - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/65ac05f8b5384703
* Cuban Baseball Team Represents All Latin Amer: Chavez - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a0bcbae0959276b6
* Venezuela Again Demands US Hand Over Terrorist - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b55912382178747
* Avnery on Jericho: A Disgusting Exercise - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ed73083a208163ab
* Iraqi police say US troops executed family of 11 - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/57a2d1372bc9a48
* Bolivia Opens Literacy Campaign - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d6b45fe2e1bec670
* Louis Farrakhan Visits Cuba - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/570f8df4dcce8fd3
* Before and After Abu Ghraib, a US Unit Abused Detainees - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/35ed3bed1a6f803c
* L@@K @ What These Niggas Did. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cf4f1e9785c06b16
* the ethology of blonde, brunette, and red-head - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/41c74845a22190da
* Iz Ellen DeGeneres *reallY* a Lezbian ?!?!?!?!??! - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/0201cd8bfc3425b8
* CHISTES CUBANOS ... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/93acb57ef593ef23
* What's Israel done for America, lately... ever? - 5 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/67529f7111b6b0a2
* Jobs That Americans Won't Do ?? Think Again - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5f87ba45eaeed9fb

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TOPIC: Senate Bill Would Legalize Bush's Illegal Spying
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Senate Bill Would Legalize Bush's Illegal Spying

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Radio Havana Cuba
http://www.radiohc.cu

U.S. Senate Legislation Would Allow Warrantless Spying

Washington, March 20 (RHC)-- Legislation has been introduced on
Capitol Hill that would allow the White House to continue its policy
of spying on Americans without obtaining warrants, if only President
George W. Bush justifies the action to a small group of lawmakers.

According to a story in The Washington Post, four Republican senators
hope to settle the debate over National Security Agency (NSA)
eavesdropping on international communications of U.S. citizens.
President Bush prompted a months-long uproar when he said that
constitutional powers absolve him of the need to seek warrants in such
cases, even though the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
requires warrants for domestic wiretaps.

The proposed legislation would allow the NSA to eavesdrop, without a
warrant, for up to 45 days per case, at which point the Justice
Department would have three options. It could drop the surveillance,
seek a warrant from FISA's court, or convince a handful of House and
Senate members that although there is insufficient evidence for a
warrant, continued surveillance "is necessary to protect the United
States," according to a summary the four sponsors provided. They are
Mike DeWine from Ohio, Lindsey O. Graham of South Carolina, Chuck
Hagel from Nebraska and Olympia J. Snowe of Maine.

It is unclear whether the bill can win passage. Senate Judiciary
Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, a Republican from Pennsylvania, gave
reporters a 'thumbs down' when asked about the measure. He said he
particularly objects to letting the government "do whatever the hell
it wants" for 45 days without seeking judicial or congressional
approval.

Senator DeWine told reporters that White House officials "agree with
the general concept" of the bill. He said that most Americans think
"this type of surveillance should continue," but Congress must impose
oversight. That opinion clashed with recent surveys which show that
the vast majority of U.S. citizens are opposed to domestic spying by
their government.

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TOPIC: My Lai-Style Massacres in Iraq?
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My Lai-Style Massacres in Iraq?

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sent by Andy Pollack - Mar 20, 2006

[Buried in today's online Washington Post -- and I only found it by searching
for "Iraq civilians" is an account of a My Lai-type massacre that occurred
months ago. Elsewhere at the Post online it's coupled with an account of the
atrocity from yesterday (although the number of victims differs).
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/20/AR2006032000848_pf.html;
full story below)

Dahr Jamail has another account of what I believe is the same incident,
although quoting locals as saying a bomb was dropped on the house (in a
piece exposing the operation as a p.r. job he nonetheless exposes as lies
the US claim that no shots were fired or bombs dropped:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032006R.shtml)

Meanwhile, the LA Times, and other media, have reported on what I believe is
a different incident, and all contain some version of the curious wording
below: "Police said eight civilians, including a child, were killed in
clashes between U.S. troops and gunmen in Duluiyah, 45 miles north of
Baghdad."

You know what such bland phrases, not attributing the deaths to either side,
mean. The same thing it means when Israelis say civilians are caught in
"crossfire": The occupier killed them. -AP]

AP via The Los Angeles Times - Mar 20, 2006
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-031906iraq_wr,0,6579157.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Military Investigating Deadly Raid in Iraq

By BASSEM MROUE
The Associated Press

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- After a roadside bomb killed a U.S. Marine in western Iraq,
American troops went into nearby houses and shot dead 15 members of two
families, including a 3-year-old-girl, residents told The Associated Press
on Monday.

The military says about 12 Marines are under investigation for possible war
crimes by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service following the Nov. 19
insurgent attack in Haditha, 140 miles northwest of Baghdad.

The allegations against the Marines were first brought forward by Time
Magazine, which reported this week that it obtained a videotape two months
ago taken by a Haditha journalism student that shows the dead still in their
nightclothes.

The magazine report mirrored what was told independently to the AP by
residents who described what happened as "a massacre."

A military spokeswoman said Monday the allegations were being taken "very
seriously."

Khaled Ahmed Rsayef, whose brother and six other relatives were killed, said
the roadside bomb exploded at about 7:15 a.m. in the al-Subhani
neighborhood, heavily damaging a U.S. Humvee.

A U.S. military statement in November described it as an ambush on a joint
U.S.-Iraqi patrol that left 15 civilians, eight insurgents and a U.S. Marine
dead in the bombing and a subsequent firefight. The statement said the 15
civilians were killed by the blast, a claim residents denied.

They said the only shooting done after the bombing was by U.S. forces.

"American troops immediately cordoned off the area and raided two nearby
houses, shooting at everyone inside," said Rsayef, who didn't witness the
events but whose 15-year-old niece says she did. "It was a massacre in every
sense of the word."

Rsayef and another resident, former city councilman Imad Jawad Hamza, who
spoke with hospital officials and residents, said the first house to be
stormed was that of Abdul-Hamid Hassan Ali, which was near the scene of the
bombing.

Ali, 76, whose left leg was amputated years ago because of diabetes, died
after being shot in the stomach and chest. His wife, Khamisa, 66, was shot
in the back. Ali's son, Jahid, 43, was hit in the head and chest. Son Walid,
37, was burned to death after a grenade was thrown into his room, and a
third son, 28-year-old Rashid, died after he was shot in the head and chest,
Rsayef and Hamza said.

Also among the dead were son Walid's wife, Asma, 32, who was shot in the
head, and their son Abdullah, 4, who was shot in the chest, Rsayef and Hamza
said.

Walid's 8-year-old daughter, Iman, and his 6-year-old son, Abdul-Rahman,
were wounded and U.S. troops took them to Baghdad for treatment. The only
person who escaped unharmed was Walid's 5-month-old daughter, Asia. The
three children now live with their maternal grandparents, Rsayef and Hamza
said.

Rsayef said those killed in the second house were his brother Younis, 43,
who was shot in the stomach and chest, the brother's wife Aida, 40, who was
shot in the neck and chest while still in bed where she was recuperating
from bladder surgery. Their 8-year-old son Mohammed bled to death after
being shot in the right arm, Rsayef said.

Also killed were Younis's daughters, Nour, 14, who was shot in the head;
Seba, 10, who was hit in the chest; Zeinab, 5, shot in the chest and
stomach; and Aisha, 3, who was shot in the chest. Hoda Yassin, a visiting
relative, was also killed, Rsayef and Hamza said.

The only survivor from Younis's family was his 15-year-old daughter Safa,
who pretended she was dead. She is living with her grandparents, Rsayef
said.

The troops then shot and killed four brothers who were walking in the
street, Rsayef and Hamza said, identifying them as the sons of Ayed Ahmed _
Marwan, Qahtan, Jamal and Chaseb.

U.S. troops also shot dead five men who were in a car near the scene, Hamza
and Rsayef said. They identified the five as Khaled Ayad al-Zawi and his
brother Wajdi as well as Mohammed Battal Mahmoud, Akram Hamid Flayeh and
Ahmad Fanni Mosleh.

It was not clear if the nine men were involved in the attack as the military
statement said.

According to the Defense Department, the Marine who was killed near Haditha
that day was Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas, 20, of El Paso, Texas. He was
assigned to 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I
Marine Expeditionary Force.

Dr. Walid al-Hadithi, chief physician at Haditha General Hospital, said that
about midnight the day of the attack, two U.S. Humvees arrived at the
hospital _ one carrying the bodies of men and the other those of women and
children.

"They (the Marines) told me the women and children were shot in their homes,
and they added that the men were saboteurs," al-Hadithi said. He said he was
given a total of 24 bodies. "All had bullet wounds."

Time said the available evidence did not prove the Marines deliberately
killed civilians. The magazine, however, said its investigation showed that
walls and ceilings in both houses were pockmarked with shrapnel and bullet
holes as well as sprays of blood. The video did not show any bullet holes on
the outside of the houses _ holes that might support the military report of
a gunbattle.

The military, after being shown the videotape in January, concluded
civilians were killed by Marines, Time said, victims of "collateral damage."

A human rights group condemned the shooting of civilians in Haditha.

"Regrettably the American military goes too far in their strikes against
civilians because they consider many civilian areas as targets," said Wail
al-Tai of the Baghdad Center for Human Rights Studies.

Human Rights Minister Nirmeen Othman would not comment on the incident.

U.S. military spokeswoman Lt. Col. Michelle Martin-Hing issued a statement
Monday in response to an e-mail query from the AP:

"We take these allegations very seriously, and I believe the fact that two
additional investigations are ongoing concerning this incident clearly
demonstrates that. The incident in question was the first in a series of
engagements that day that began when the Marine patrol was ambushed in a
residential neighborhood with an IED followed immediately by small arms fire
from multiple directions."

Saying Marines tracked insurgents for more than five hours, Martin-Hing said
"the investigation will examine whether any rules of engagement were
violated in the Marines' response to the insurgent attack. We are committed
to thoroughly investigating this incident."

Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli, the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq, said about 12
Marines were under investigation for possible war crimes in the incident. He
said the case was referred to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.

© 2006 The Associated Press

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TOPIC: Belarus: Official Statements on Pres'l Election
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Belarus: Official Statements on Pres'l Election

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1) Official Statement On the 2006 Presidential Elections in Belarus

2) Opinion: International Observers About Presidential Election in Belarus

Embassy of the Repulic of Belarus in the United States of America
http://www.belarusembassy.org

PRESS RELEASE

On the 2006 Presidential Elections in Belarus

Washington, D.C., March 20, 2006

On March 19, 2006 presidential elections took place in Belarus and were
recognized as valid, free, open and transparent.

According to the Central Election Commission, some 92.6 percent of voters
took part in the presidential poll in Belarus.

Some 93 percent of voters took part in the presidential poll in Brest
oblast, 95 percent - in Vitebsk oblast, 95.6 percent - in Gomel oblast, 93.8
percent - in Grodno oblast, 92.6 percent - in Minsk oblast, 95.3 percent -
in Mogilev oblast and 85.1 percent - in the city of Minsk.

According to preliminary results of the vote count, incumbent president
Alexander Lukashenko has had a convincing victory by winning 82.6 per cent
of the vote.

6 percent of the electors voted in favor of Alexander Milinkevich, 2.3
percent of Alexander Kozulin, 3.5 percent of Sergei Gaidukevich.

According to the Central Election Commission 5,460,000 Belarusians voted for
incumbent President of the Republic of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko. Almost
400,000 electors voted in favor of Alexander Milinkevich, 250,000 of Sergei
Gaidukevich, and 154,000 of Alexander Kozulin.

The official results of the elections will be made public seven days after
the count of the vote.

The election was observed quite closely by both the international and
domestic experts. A total of 32,996 domestic and 1,235 international
observers were registered in Belarus. On average there were 4-5 observers
per polling station.

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Embassy of the Repulic of Belarus in the United States of America.
http://www.belarusembassy.org/

Opinion: International Observers About Presidential Election in Belarus

Today, on March 19, 2006 Belarus has held presidential election.

According to the official site of the Central Election Commission
http://www.rec.gov.by, the turnout reached 92.6 percent. In Brest oblast the
turnout made up 93 percent, Vitebsk - 95 percent, Gomel oblast - 95.6
percent, Grodno - 93.8 percent, Minsk - 92.6 percent, Mogilev - 95.3 percent
and in the city of Minsk - 85.1 percent.

In line with the electoral laws of Belarus, the elections are recognized as
valid if the turnout makes more than a half of the people entitled to vote.

At 8 p.m. (Minsk time) all polling stations closed in Belarus; counting of
votes started. On the whole, some 6,585 polling stations worked in the
country.

We remind that four politicians took part in the election campaign. The one,
who gets more than 50 percent of the votes, will win the race.

Both the domestic and international observers reported no serious violations
during the voting, Secretary of the Central Election Commission /CEC/
Nikolai Lozovik told a briefing today.

The election has been observed quite closely by both the international and
domestic experts, he informed. A total of 32,996 domestic and 1,235
international observers have been registered in Belarus.

On average there 4-5 observers per polling station.

Here are some opinions of international observers about the presidential
election in Belarus:

Observer from Turkey: Belarusian Election System Has No Big Differences from
Western Analogues

The election system in Belarus has no significant differences from the
election systems of the Western powers, international observer from Turkey,
member of parliament, chief councilor at the association of small and
middle-sized businessmen Tahir Kose said.

He visited 20 polling stations in Minsk and Gomel. "Everything is organized
at a good level. I found nothing to criticize. People are eager to go to the
polls".

Tahir Kose noted that he had talked to the OSCE observers who had also
failed to reveal any serious violations during the election campaign.

"The mood of the Belarusians at the election is much more important than
impressions of people who have come here", the international observer
believes.

"Turkey treats Belarus with sympathy, we are friends and partners in trade
and economic cooperation", Mr. Kose said.

Kyrgyz Observer: Elections in Belarus are Free and Democratic

The presidential elections in Belarus are free and democratic, member of the
central election commission of Kyrgyzstan Zhenishbek Akmatov told today.

According to him, members of the central election commission of Kyrgyzstan
visited several polling stations in the Shklov region and can speak about
the situation in one of the biggest regions of Mogilev oblast. People
fulfilled their civil duty voluntarily and free at all polling stations in
Shklov and villages of the region, which they visited, the observer noted.

"We did not register any violations of the election legislation. We spoke to
domestic observers and they did not lay any claims concerning the voting
processes", Zhenishbek Akmatov said.

Moldavian Observer: Pressure from Abroad Fails to Influence Belarusians'
Choice

Pressure from abroad will fail to influence the choice of the Belarusians,
international observer from Moldova, director of the strategic analysis and
forecasting center Sergei Nazarija said.

"I do not think pressure on any country, be it Moldova or Belarus, can
radically shift the opinion of the electorate. Whatever it will be, I think
the entire world should accept the choice of the Belarusians. We should
respect it", he said.

According to the observer, the election in Belarus is taking place in "the
legal framework and in line with the Belarusian legislation". The observer
from Moldova pointed to no serious flaws in the election process. "The vote
is undergoing in an appropriate atmosphere without any pressure on the
electorate", Sergei Nazarija said.

According to him, since March 14 when Sergei Nazarija arrived in Belarus,
"there has been no straightforward campaigning for anyone of the Belarusian
candidates on the TV". The opponents had an opportunity to state their point
of view and criticize the active head of state in the press.

Chinese Observers Note Democratic Character of Election Campaign in Belarus

International observers from the People's Republic of China took note of a
democratic character of the election campaign in Belarus, ambassador of the
Chinese foreign ministry Zhao Sidi told today.

He said "Minsk residents come to election centers and quietly vote for
chosen candidates". The Chinese guest noted that the international observers
are freely admitted to polling stations and provided with all the necessary
information.

International Observer: Belarusian Election is Truly Democratic

The presidential election in Belarus is carried out in compliance with the
international standards, told president of the Christian Bridge
International Michael Morgulis, USA.

"There elections are truly democratic," he said.

According to him, Belarus has chosen and has been following the right course
of development. He also noted that this year the country entered a new stage
of its development.

Observers from Belgium and Netherlands Positively Assess Election Campaign
in Belarus

Belarus has organized well the election campaign, therefore it goes on very
calmly, member of the senate of Belgium, international observer Frank
Creyelman told today.

He believes that the election campaign in Belarus differs little from the
elections in other European countries. "When I was going here I expected to
see a different picture which I formed relying on the information in western
mass media: that every voter would have somebody behind his back who would
control his vote. The things I have seen U-turned by impression about
Belarus", the international observer said.

Frank Creyelman has visited 13 polls, 3 of them in the Novogrudok region,
the rest - in Minsk. According to him, there is no pressure at polling
stations.

He intends to share his positive impressions about Belarus with his
colleagues-senators. The guest from Belgium was especially impressed by the
Belarusian capital: "This is a safe and open city which stands out from many
European cities. Minskers are very friendly people. I feel comfortable
here". Comparing the cleanness of the Belarusian capital with Brussels,
Frank Creyelman decided in favor of Minsk.

A businessman from the Netherlands, international observer Rick Manssen told
that he views positively the election campaign in Belarus. He said that he
has the information about the country from the first hands - for 14 years he
has been studying the situation here as his wife is from Gomel. He has a
business in Belarus and plans to implement new projects in agriculture.

Belarusian Election Process Does Not Differ from That in UK

The Belarusian election does not differ from the UK election process, UK
observer Fillip Mathews told today.

"I have been in Belarus for 5 days already and so far I have visited 8
election centers, including two in Brest today. I have to admit that all of
them meet all the necessary criteria.

There are no obstacles for observers," he noted.

On the whole, he sees no significant difference between the election
processes in Belarus and the UK. There are some minor distinctions, like for
example, in Great Britain the early voting is carried out by post while in
Belarus one have to appear in person in the election center. Yet these
distinctions do not influence the final result of voting.

International Observer From Lithuania: Belarus Wins Information War

The election commission has been working in line with the electoral code,
international observer from Lithuania Victoras Shugurovas told today.

He noted that the Lithuanian observers arrived in Belarus on March 16 and
started working on the next day. "So far we have visited 13 election centers
and have no complaints," Victoras Shugurovas said.

Lithuanian and some other Western mass media have presented biased coverage
of the election campaign in Belarus, he noted. "Yet the Election Day has
shown that they had lost the information war," Victoras Shugurovas believes.

OSCE Observers Note Friendly Attitude of District Election Commissions Staff
In Vitebsk Oblast

Representatives of the OSCE/ODIHR election observation mission and local
authorities of Vitebsk oblast have established proper cooperation; told Ib
Alken, OSCE/ODIHR long-term observer.

According to him, he has been observing the election in Vitebsk oblast since
February. Over the period he had an opportunity to meet with representatives
of various organizations, media as well as observe the activities of
territorial and district commissions.

He noted a high turnout during the early presidential election.

OSCE/ODIHR long-term observer Ethne McDermott said that their most important
task is to monitor thoroughly the developments in the region and to meet as
many people as possible. "We have developed good cooperation with the
members of the election commissions", she added.

In turn, OSCE/ODIHR observer Jonathan Browning (Great Britain) noted that he
was impressed by the friendliness of the Belarusians and their hospitality.
"The members of the district commissions are well-disposed to the
observers", he stressed.

Mr. Jonathan Browning is on his first visit to Belarus. According to him,
"before making a trip to this country I heard about the Belarusian
friendliness and hospitality and I am very happy that my first acquaintance
with your country has confirmed this".

Observer from Poland: Voting in Minsk Complies with International Standards

The presidential poll in Minsk complies with the international standards.
"We have visited four polls and nowhere we have seen intimidation or
pressurizing", independent international observer from Poland Marjan Walczak
told today.

He noted that the turnout is very high. People are very active, come to vote
by the families.

According to Marjan Walczak, at the polls he has visited everything has been
done for the voting to go smoothly. All staffs of the commissions are
present; security and safety of the electoral documents have been ensured.
"It is evident that the elections are transparent and comply with the
effective legislation. This is also attested to by the results of the check
up of the documents, ballot-papers and the activity of the election
commissions", Marjan Wlaczak believes.

He also noted that he came to Belarus to eye-witness the elections. Since
Polish mass media gave only negative assessment on the eve of the
presidential poll, he decided to make up his own opinion. "I do not
represent any organization therefore I can be absolutely unbiased", the
observer stressed.

He also informed that this is the second time he is in Belarus to monitor
the elections. During the previous presidential campaign he worked in
Mogilev oblast.

"I can state with confidence that both this time and last time I saw no
violations which can be encountered at polling stations in some other
countries", Marjan Walczak concluded.

German Observer: Election in Gomel Oblast Is Transparent

The presidential election in Gomel oblast is held in a transparent and
friendly atmosphere, observer from Germany Frantz Masser told today.

"What is especially pleasing is that the election commissions are open and
full of respect towards both the electors and observers. When we ask
something we receive irrefragable answers from its members," he said.

Frantz Masser monitored the parliamentary election in 2004 in Belarus.
According to him, the present election is remarkable for a high turnout. Yet
the most sticking change is the better look of villages and towns. New
buildings are being constructed everywhere. "I think that the Belarusian
economy has been developing in the right way. This is a guarantee that the
life in the country will become better," Frantz Masser said.

Many European States Have Something to Learn from Belarus in How to Carry
Out Election Campaign

Many European states have something to learn from Belarus in how to carry
out an election campaign, deputy of the parliament of Israel Mikhail
Gorlovskiy told reporters today.

According to him, the elections go in Belarus in a calm and business
atmosphere. Today the Israeli parliamentarian visited eight polling stations
in Minsk.

Mikhail Gorlovskiy has said he visited Belarus twice in the middle of the
1990s. "These are two different countries. Progress is obvious", the Israeli
deputy underscored.

Latvian MP: Belarus' Image in the West is Based of Faulty Impressions

The image of Belarus in the West is formed on the basis of faulty standards
and impressions, international observer Nikolay Kabanov, a Latvian Seim MP,
told today.

"Watching the Latvian TV you get a kind of eerie impression about Belarus.
But this turns out to be a total falsification. Belarus is a country which
is making progress following its own plan", the observer said.

The desire of the West to see an alternative candidate as the president of
Belarus "is connected with big money and property ownership issues and has
economic grounds to it".

"Certainly, Belarus attracts many overseas profit-seekers and the fact that
the country has a president who does not let such people buy out the
property, as it was the case in entire Eastern Europe, is not to everyone's
liking", Nikolay Kabanov noted. Everybody saw the way "shock" reforms were
performed in Poland, Latvia, Lithuania.

"Unfortunately, Eastern Europe does not have its own development plan at the
moment. If fact the development policy in the area is much influenced by the
USA", the Latvian policy-maker believes.

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TOPIC: Cuban Baseball Team Represents All Latin Amer: Chavez
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WBC: Cuban Team Represents All Latin America, Says Chavez

Havana, March 20 (RHC)--Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Sunday
regretted his country's defeat in the World Baseball Classic. Speaking
on his regular "Alo Presidente" show, he congratulated the Cuban squad
for having reached the finals and declared that the island will
represent all of Latin America in tonight's final game against Japan.

"Venezuela lost and now we will root for Cuba. I congratulated
President Fidel Castro yesterday. We are represented by the Cuban
team", said Hugo Chavez. .

Chavez recognized the collective performance of the Cuban team,
comparing it to the individual performances of many of the "stars" on
the Venezuelan squad.

The Venezuelan leader noted that a good baseball team requires,
"training, discipline and total commitment".

Venezuela, one of the teams most strongly favored to reach the finals,
was defeated in the quarter finals by the Dominican Republic and Cuba.

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TOPIC: Venezuela Again Demands US Hand Over Terrorist
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Venezuela Again Demands US Hand Over Terrorist

Caracas, Mar 20 (Prensa Latina) Venezuela ratified this Monday its
deportation demand from the US of Cuban-born terrorist Luis Posada Carriles,
mastermind of the mid-air explosion of a Cubana airplane with 73 passengers
in 1976.

Venezuelan ambassador to Washington Bernardo Alvarez stated that during a
meeting with US Undersecretary of State Thomas Shannon on February, he
ratified in writing his country's extradition request.

In a TV program "En Confianza de Venezuela de Television," Alvarez said this
case could not only be discussed as a migratory issue.

"There can not be terrorism "a la carte," he said, "Posada Carriles is Latin
America's Osama Bin Laden," and recalled that two former Venezuelan
lieutenants from the National Guard are currently living in United States.

Alvarez stated that the northern country also denied asylum for those former
soldiers, but they have not been deported as Venezuela requests, in
agreement with bilateral accords signed that also include the Posada
Carriles case.

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TOPIC: Avnery on Jericho: A Disgusting Exercise
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[Avnery, who watched the pictures coming out of Jericho on the TV of a
Palestinian friend whom he visited, draws lines back to the 1956 when
Britain and France conspired with Israel to go to war against Egypt and
concludes with a harsh question.]

A Disgusting Exercise

by Uri Avnery
March 18, 2006

THE CENTRAL theme of this article is disgust. Therefore I apologize in
advance for the frequent use of this and similar words.

In the thesaurus I find quite a number of synonyms: loathing, revulsion,
dislike, nausea, distaste, aversion, antipathy, abomination, repulsion,
abhorrence, repugnance, odium, detestation, and some more. They are all
present in my feelings about the action that took place in Jericho on
Tuesday.

IT WAS abhorrent, first of all, because it was an election propaganda
gimmick. For a politician to send the army in to collect votes is an
abhorrent act. In this action, three people were killed. Many more
lives, Palestinian and Israeli, were put at risk.

The horrible cynicism of the decision was plain for all to see. Even the
voters noticed it: in a public opinion poll two days later, 47% said
that the decision was influenced by electoral considerations, only 49%
thought otherwise.

This is not the first time for Ehud Olmert to walk over dead bodies on
his way to power. As mayor of Jerusalem, he pushed for the opening of a
tunnel in the area of the Muslim shrines, causing (as expected) dozens
of casualties. Binyamin Netanyahu, his accomplice at the time, is made
of similar material.

Netanyahu, at least, was once a combat soldier, who risked his own life
in action. Much more distasteful is a politician who sends others to
risk their lives but takes great care not to risk his own. This
inglorious band also numbers George Bush and Dick Cheney, two serial
war-mongers.

Olmert had a problem. His party was slowly sinking in the polls. As time
passed, some of the Kadima fans started to notice that Olmert, after
all, is no Sharon. Sharon's glory derives mainly from his being a
victorious general, who walked around during the Yom Kippur war with a
large bandage around his head (to this very day it is not quite clear
what purpose it served). Olmert was in urgent need of a military action
that would provide him with the laurels of a tough military commander,
and would also help him shake off the nickname attached to him by the
Likud: Smolmert. (Smol, in Hebrew, means left.)

The trick paid off. In the same poll, 20.7% of the voters said that the
Jericho action persuaded them to vote for Kadima, or, at least,
reinforced their decision to do so.

In general, one should beware of a civilian politician who succeeds a
leader crowned with military laurels. It is enough to mention the
classic case of Anthony Eden, the heir of Winston Churchill, who
initiated the Suez war of October 1956.

WHAT DOES that war remind us about? The collusion.

The British wanted to topple Gamal Abd-al-Nasser, because he had the
temerity to expropriate the property of the British shareholders of the
Suez Canal Company. The French wanted to bring him down because of his
support for the Algerian war of liberation. They conspired with David
Ben-Gurion, who wanted to destroy the newly re-equipped Egyptian army.
The main middleman of the collusion was Shimon Peres, now No. 2 on the
Kadima list.

It worked like this: Israeli paratroopers, commanded by Ariel Sharon
(founder of Kadima), were dropped near the Suez canal. Britain and
France issued a fake ultimatum, calling upon Egypt and Israel to
withdraw their forces from the canal - a preposterous demand, since the
canal is deep in Egyptian territory. As agreed beforehand, Israel
refused, and then the British and French forces invaded the canal area,
leaving the Israeli army to take control of the entire Sinai peninsula.
The collusion was so primitive and obvious that it was uncovered at
once. End of Eden.

The Jericho affair is incredibly similar: the British and the Americans
pretended to fear for the safety of their monitors, which were stationed
in Jericho according to an agreement which we shall touch upon later.
They told Mahmoud Abbas that they might withdraw them. At a time
secretly agreed upon with the Israeli Prime Minister, the British and
American monitors went out and the Israeli army went in. Preparations
for the action had been going on for weeks.

One thing should be said in favor of George Bush and Tony Blair (and his
miserable Foreign Minister, Jack Straw): they have returned the oldest
profession in the world to the oldest city in the world. The scarlet
thread of Rahav the Harlot (Joshua, 2) leads to this act of
prostitution.

LIEUTENANT GENERAL Dan Halutz can be proud of this victory. In the past,
he became famous for saying that all he feels is a slight bump on his
wing when he drops a bomb on a civilian neighborhood, even if women and
children are also killed. After that he sleeps well, he said. Now he has
won real glory: with the help of dozens of tanks, gunships and heavy
bulldozers he has succeeded in capturing six unarmed prisoners in the
tranquil, non-violent little town that lives off tourism.

In the course of the action, Halutz' soldiers created a disgusting
picture that has sullied the image of the Israeli army in the eyes of
the hundreds of millions who saw it on their screens. They ordered the
Palestinian policemen and prisoners to take their clothes off, and then
let them be photographed, again and again - and again and again - in
their underpants. There was no need for that. The pretext, that they
might have hidden explosive belts on their body, was ridiculous under
these circumstances. And even if it had been necessary, it could surely
have been done far from the cameras. No doubt: the intention was to
humiliate, to debase, to satisfy sadistic tendencies.

A person can, perhaps, get over beatings, or even torture. But he cannot
ever forget humiliation, especially when it was done in full view of his
family, friends, colleagues and all people around the world. How many
new terrorists were born at that moment?

On that day I happened to visit friends in a Palestinian village in the
West Bank. We - my hosts and I - were riveted to the TV screen (mainly
Aljazeera). When these pictures appeared, I could not look them in the
eye for shame.

THE ISRAELI media had a ball. Not just a ball, they went gaga for sheer
joy. They contributed their special part to the loathsome event and
stood to attention behind the government. Like a flock of parrots,
unanimously repeating the mendacious official version.

It was a festival of brain-washing. The "Murderers of Ze'evi" have been
captured! It was our national duty! We could not rest until they fell
into our hands, dead or alive!

These three words - "Murderers of Ze'evi" - turned into a mantra. They
were repeated endlessly on radio and television, and appeared in the
printed newspapers (all of them!) and the speeches of the politicians
(all of them!). That's how it is: Israelis are "murdered", Palestinians
are "eliminated".

Why, for Gods sake? Rehavam Zee'vi, a cabinet minister at the time,
preached day and night about "transfer" - the euphemism for driving the
Palestinians out of Palestine. Compared to him, Jean-Marie le Pen in
France and Joerg Haider in Austria are bleeding-heart liberals. His
targeted killing is no different from the targeted killing of Sheik
Ahmed Yassin and scores of other Palestinian leaders, including Abu-Ali
Mustafa, the chief of the Popular Front, who was allowed by Israel to
return from Syria to the Palestinian territories after Oslo.

This is part of the endless chain of violence: The Israeli army killed
Abu-Ali Mustafa. He was succeeded by Ahmed Sa'adat, who, according to
the Israeli security service, ordered the killing of Rehavam Ze'evi in
revenge, and whose capture was the aim of the Jericho action. And so it
goes on.

Let's be clear: I oppose all murders. Theirs and ours. The murder of
Abu-Ali Mustafa and the murder of Rehavam Ze'evi. But whoever spills the
blood of a Palestinian leader cannot complain about the shedding of the
blood of an Israeli one.

THERE IS still another side to the affair, which is no less disgusting:
the attitude towards the keeping of agreements.

Sa'adat and his colleagues were held in Jericho in accordance with an
agreement signed by Israel. On the strength of it, they left the
Mukata'a in Ramallah, during the siege on Yasser Arafat, and entered the
Palestinian jail in Jericho. The US and the UK guaranteed their safety
and undertook to monitor their imprisonment.

What has happened now in Jericho is a blatant breach of the agreement.
The miserable pretexts invented in Jerusalem, London and Washington are
an insult to the intelligence of a 10-year old.

Israeli governments often regard the breach of an agreement as a
patriotic act if it serves our purpose. Agreements are binding only on
the other side. This is not only a primitive morality, it is also
damaging to our national interests. Who will sign an agreement with us,
knowing that it obligates only him? How can Israel convincingly demand
that the Hamas leaders "accept all the agreements" signed by the
Palestinian Authority?

Many Israelis believe that the Jericho action was a brilliant exercise.
I found it simply loathsome.

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TOPIC: Iraqi police say US troops executed family of 11
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U.S. blamed in killings

Military says report of 11 executions could be false

BY MATTHEW SCHOFIELD
Knight Ridder

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Iraqi police accuse U.S. troops of executing 11 people,
including a 75-year-old woman and an infant, in the aftermath of a raid last
Wednesday on a house about 60 miles north of Baghdad.

The villagers were killed after U.S. troops herded them into a room,
according to a police document. The soldiers also burned three vehicles,
killed the villagers' animals and blew up the house, it said.

A U.S. military spokesman, Maj. Tim Keefe, said the U.S. military has no
information to support the allegations.

"We're concerned to hear accusations like that, but it's also highly
unlikely that they're true," he said Sunday. He added that U.S. forces "take
every precaution to keep civilians out of harm's way."

Most accusations that U.S. troops have killed civilians are judged later to
be unfounded or exaggerated. But the report of the killings in the Abu Sifa
area of Ishaqi originated with Iraqi police, and they were willing to attach
their names to it.

The report was compiled by the Joint Coordination Center in Tikrit, a
regional security center set up with U.S. military help. An Iraqi police
colonel signed it.

Brig. Gen. Issa al-Juboori, who heads the center, said his office assembled
the report Thursday and that it accurately reflects the direction of the
police investigation.

The case involves a U.S. raid that, according to the U.S. account, was
conducted in response to a tip that a member of Al Qaeda in Iraq was at the
house. Neighbors said the Al Qaeda member was visiting the home's owner, a
relative.

According to police, military and witness accounts, U.S. forces approached
the house and a firefight ensued. By all accounts, in addition to exchanging
gunfire with someone inside the house, U.S. troops were supported by
helicopter gunships, which fired on the house.

The U.S. account said the house collapsed because of the fire. But the
report said U.S. forces entered the house while it was still standing.

"The American forces gathered the family members in one room and executed 11
persons, including five children, four women and two men," it said. "Then
they bombed the house, burned three vehicles and killed their animals."

Rasheed Thair, an Ishaqi employee, said the town was in shock over the
killings.

"Everyone attended the funeral," he said. "We want the Americans to give an
explanation for this horrible crime."

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 10:18 pm
From: "Timothy-Allen Albertson"

Fucking Oi Nazis...

May they burn in Hell.

NY.Transfer.N...@blythe.org wrote:
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> Detroit Free Press - Mar 20, 2006
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>
> U.S. blamed in killings
>
> Military says report of 11 executions could be false
>
> BY MATTHEW SCHOFIELD
> Knight Ridder
>
> BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Iraqi police accuse U.S. troops of executing 11 people,
> including a 75-year-old woman and an infant, in the aftermath of a raid last
> Wednesday on a house about 60 miles north of Baghdad.
>
> The villagers were killed after U.S. troops herded them into a room,
> according to a police document. The soldiers also burned three vehicles,
> killed the villagers' animals and blew up the house, it said.
>
> A U.S. military spokesman, Maj. Tim Keefe, said the U.S. military has no
> information to support the allegations.
>
> "We're concerned to hear accusations like that, but it's also highly
> unlikely that they're true," he said Sunday. He added that U.S. forces "take
> every precaution to keep civilians out of harm's way."
>
> Most accusations that U.S. troops have killed civilians are judged later to
> be unfounded or exaggerated. But the report of the killings in the Abu Sifa
> area of Ishaqi originated with Iraqi police, and they were willing to attach
> their names to it.
>
> The report was compiled by the Joint Coordination Center in Tikrit, a
> regional security center set up with U.S. military help. An Iraqi police
> colonel signed it.
>
> Brig. Gen. Issa al-Juboori, who heads the center, said his office assembled
> the report Thursday and that it accurately reflects the direction of the
> police investigation.
>
> The case involves a U.S. raid that, according to the U.S. account, was
> conducted in response to a tip that a member of Al Qaeda in Iraq was at the
> house. Neighbors said the Al Qaeda member was visiting the home's owner, a
> relative.
>
> According to police, military and witness accounts, U.S. forces approached
> the house and a firefight ensued. By all accounts, in addition to exchanging
> gunfire with someone inside the house, U.S. troops were supported by
> helicopter gunships, which fired on the house.
>
> The U.S. account said the house collapsed because of the fire. But the
> report said U.S. forces entered the house while it was still standing.
>
> "The American forces gathered the family members in one room and executed 11
> persons, including five children, four women and two men," it said. "Then
> they bombed the house, burned three vehicles and killed their animals."
>
> Rasheed Thair, an Ishaqi employee, said the town was in shock over the
> killings.
>
> "Everyone attended the funeral," he said. "We want the Americans to give an
> explanation for this horrible crime."
>
> Copyright ) 2006 Detroit Free Press Inc.
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 10:20 pm
From: "Timothy-Allen Albertson"

Fucking Oil Nazis...

May they burn in Hell.

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TOPIC: Bolivia Opens Literacy Campaign
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Bolivia Opens Literacy Campaign

La Paz, Mar 20 (Prensa Latina) Bolivia's President Evo Morales is starting
Monday in the eastern city of Camiri a literacy campaign that will teach
about 1,100,000 citizens to read and write.

The aim of the campaign is to decolonize education and vindicate people's
fundamental rights.

Attending the act is Cuban Education Minister Luis Ignacio Gomez, who backed
up his country's decision to collaborate in everything for the success of
this campaign.

Gomez recalled that the support of Cuban advisers and technical means for
Bolivian literacy was signed agreement by Presidents Evo Morales and Fidel
Castro during the former's visit to Havana on December 30, then as
president-elect of his country.

The Education Ministry told Prensa Latina that all Latin American education
ministers, among them Venezuela's Aristobulo Isturiz, were invited to attend
the ceremony.

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TOPIC: Louis Farrakhan Visits Cuba
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Louis Farrakhan Visits Cuba

Havana, Mar 20 (Prensa Latina) US religious leader Louis Farrakhan began a
Cuba visit Monday, with plans to meet with US youth studying medicine on the
Island.

Upon his arrival in this capital, Farrakhan, also a fighter against racism
and poverty, was welcomed by Cuban Parliament Speaker Ricardo Alarcon.

During his stay in the country, he will meet with Foreign Minister Felipe
Perez Roque and other political and social leaders.

As his first official activity, the religious leader will visit the Latin
American School of Medicine where about 20,000 students from different
countries are studying, including several US low-income youths unable to
afford the universities in their country.

Farrakhan also plans to meet with relatives of the five anti-terrorist Cuban
prisoners in the US, and members of the Henry Reeve Contingent, made up of
Cuban doctors assisting other peoples in natural disaster situations.

The US Muslim leader will also tour an art instructors' school, and meet
Cuban athletes.

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TOPIC: Before and After Abu Ghraib, a US Unit Abused Detainees
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Before and After Abu Ghraib, a US Unit Abused Detainees

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The New York Times - March 19, 2006
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/international/middleeast/19abuse.html

Task Force 6-26

Before and After Abu Ghraib, a U.S. Unit Abused Detainees

By ERIC SCHMITT and CAROLYN MARSHALL

As the Iraqi insurgency intensified in early 2004, an elite Special
Operations forces unit converted one of Saddam Hussein's former military
bases near Baghdad into a top-secret detention center. There, American
soldiers made one of the former Iraqi government's torture chambers into
their own interrogation cell. They named it the Black Room.

In the windowless, jet-black garage-size room, some soldiers beat prisoners
with rifle butts, yelled and spit in their faces and, in a nearby area, used
detainees for target practice in a game of jailer paintball. Their intention
was to extract information to help hunt down Iraq's most-wanted terrorist,
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, according to Defense Department personnel who served
with the unit or were briefed on its operations.

The Black Room was part of a temporary detention site at Camp Nama, the
secret headquarters of a shadowy military unit known as Task Force 6-26.
Located at Baghdad International Airport, the camp was the first stop for
many insurgents on their way to the Abu Ghraib prison a few miles away.

Placards posted by soldiers at the detention area advised, "NO BLOOD, NO
FOUL." The slogan, as one Defense Department official explained, reflected
an adage adopted by Task Force 6-26: "If you don't make them bleed, they
can't prosecute for it." According to Pentagon specialists who worked with
the unit, prisoners at Camp Nama often disappeared into a detention black
hole, barred from access to lawyers or relatives, and confined for weeks
without charges. "The reality is, there were no rules there," another
Pentagon official said.

The story of detainee abuse in Iraq is a familiar one. But the following
account of Task Force 6-26, based on documents and interviews with more than
a dozen people, offers the first detailed description of how the military's
most highly trained counterterrorism unit committed serious abuses.

It adds to the picture of harsh interrogation practices at American military
prisons in Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, as well as at secret
Central Intelligence Agency detention centers around the world.

The new account reveals the extent to which the unit members mistreated
prisoners months before and after the photographs of abuse from Abu Ghraib
were made public in April 2004, and it helps belie the original Pentagon
assertions that abuse was confined to a small number of rogue reservists at
Abu Ghraib.

The abuses at Camp Nama continued despite warnings beginning in August 2003
from an Army investigator and American intelligence and law enforcement
officials in Iraq. The C.I.A. was concerned enough to bar its personnel from
Camp Nama that August.

It is difficult to compare the conditions at the camp with those at Abu
Ghraib because so little is known about the secret compound, which was off
limits even to the Red Cross. The abuses appeared to have been unsanctioned,
but some of them seemed to have been well known throughout the camp.

For an elite unit with roughly 1,000 people at any given time, Task Force
6-26 seems to have had a large number of troops punished for detainee abuse.
Since 2003, 34 task force members have been disciplined in some form for
mistreating prisoners, and at least 11 members have been removed from the
unit, according to new figures the Special Operations Command provided in
response to questions from The New York Times. Five Army Rangers in the unit
were convicted three months ago for kicking and punching three detainees in
September 2005.

Some of the serious accusations against Task Force 6-26 have been reported
over the past 16 months by news organizations including NBC, The Washington
Post and The Times. Many details emerged in hundreds of pages of documents
released under a Freedom of Information Act request by the American Civil
Liberties Union. But taken together for the first time, the declassified
documents and interviews with more than a dozen military and civilian
Defense Department and other federal personnel provide the most detailed
portrait yet of the secret camp and the inner workings of the clandestine
unit.

The documents and interviews also reflect a culture clash between the
free-wheeling military commandos and the more cautious Pentagon civilians
working with them that escalated to a tense confrontation. At one point, one
of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's top aides, Stephen A. Cambone,
ordered a subordinate to "get to the bottom" of any misconduct.

Most of the people interviewed for this article were midlevel civilian and
military Defense Department personnel who worked with Task Force 6-26 and
said they witnessed abuses, or who were briefed on its operations over the
past three years.

Many were initially reluctant to discuss Task Force 6-26 because its
missions are classified. But when pressed repeatedly by reporters who
contacted them, they agreed to speak about their experiences and
observations out of what they said was anger and disgust over the unit's
treatment of detainees and the failure of task force commanders to punish
misconduct more aggressively. The critics said the harsh interrogations
yielded little information to help capture insurgents or save American
lives.

Virtually all of those who agreed to speak are career government employees,
many with previous military service, and they were granted anonymity to
encourage them to speak candidly without fear of retribution from the
Pentagon. Many of their complaints are supported by declassified military
documents and e-mail messages from F.B.I. agents who worked regularly with
the task force in Iraq.

A Demand for Intelligence

Military officials say there may have been extenuating circumstances for
some of the harsh treatment at Camp Nama and its field stations in other
parts of Iraq. By the spring of 2004, the demand on interrogators for
intelligence was growing to help combat the increasingly numerous and deadly
insurgent attacks.

Some detainees may have been injured resisting capture. A spokesman for the
Special Operations Command, Kenneth S. McGraw, said there was sufficient
evidence to prove misconduct in only 5 of 29 abuse allegations against task
force members since 2003. As a result of those five incidents, 34 people
were disciplined.

"We take all those allegations seriously," Gen. Bryan D. Brown, the
commander of the Special Operations Command, said in a brief hallway
exchange on Capitol Hill on March 8. "Any kind of abuse is not consistent
with the values of the Special Operations Command."

The secrecy surrounding the highly classified unit has helped to shield its
conduct from public scrutiny. The Pentagon will not disclose the unit's
precise size, the names of its commanders, its operating bases or specific
missions. Even the task force's name changes regularly to confuse
adversaries, and the courts-martial and other disciplinary proceedings have
not identified the soldiers in public announcements as task force members.

General Brown's command declined requests for interviews with several former
task force members and with Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who leads the Joint
Special Operations Command, the headquarters at Fort Bragg, N.C., that
supplies the unit's most elite troops.

One Special Operations officer and a senior enlisted soldier identified by
Defense Department personnel as former task force members at Camp Nama
declined to comment when contacted by telephone. Attempts to contact three
other Special Operations soldiers who were in the unit - by phone, through
relatives and former neighbors - were also unsuccessful.

Cases of detainee abuse attributed to Task Force 6-26 demonstrate both
confusion over and, in some cases, disregard for approved interrogation
practices and standards for detainee treatment, according to Defense
Department specialists who have worked with the unit.

In early 2004, an 18-year-old man suspected of selling cars to members of
the Zarqawi terrorist network was seized with his entire family at their
home in Baghdad. Task force soldiers beat him repeatedly with a rifle butt
and punched him in the head and kidneys, said a Defense Department
specialist briefed on the incident.

Some complaints were ignored or played down in a unit where a conspiracy of
silence contributed to the overall secretiveness. "It's under control," one
unit commander told a Defense Department official who complained about
mistreatment at Camp Nama in the spring of 2004.

For hundreds of suspected insurgents, Camp Nama was a way station on a
journey that started with their capture on the battlefield or in their
homes, and ended often in a cell at Abu Ghraib. Hidden in plain sight just
off a dusty road fronting Baghdad International Airport, Camp Nama was an
unmarked, virtually unknown compound at the edge of the taxiways.

The heart of the camp was the Battlefield Interrogation Facility,
alternately known as the Temporary Detention Facility and the Temporary
Holding Facility. The interrogation and detention areas occupied a corner of
the larger compound, separated by a fence topped with razor wire.

Unmarked helicopters flew detainees into the camp almost daily, former task
force members said. Dressed in blue jumpsuits with taped goggles covering
their eyes, the shackled prisoners were led into a screening room where they
were registered and examined by medics.

Just beyond the screening rooms, where Saddam Hussein was given a medical
exam after his capture, detainees were kept in as many as 85 cells spread
over two buildings. Some detainees were kept in what was known as Motel 6, a
group of crudely built plywood shacks that reeked of urine and excrement.
The shacks were cramped, forcing many prisoners to squat or crouch. Other
detainees were housed inside a separate building in 6-by-8-foot cubicles in
a cellblock called Hotel California.

The interrogation rooms were stark. High-value detainees were questioned in
the Black Room, nearly bare but for several 18-inch hooks that jutted from
the ceiling, a grisly reminder of the terrors inflicted by Mr. Hussein's
inquisitors. Jailers often blared rap music or rock 'n' roll at deafening
decibels over a loudspeaker to unnerve their subjects.

Another smaller room offered basic comforts like carpets and cushioned
seating to put more cooperative prisoners at ease, said several Defense
Department specialists who worked at Camp Nama. Detainees wore heavy,
olive-drab hoods outside their cells. By June 2004, the revelations of abuse
at Abu Ghraib galvanized the military to promise better treatment for
prisoners. In one small concession at Camp Nama, soldiers exchanged the
hoods for cloth blindfolds with drop veils that allowed detainees to breathe
more freely but prevented them from peeking out.

Some former task force members said the Nama in the camp's name stood for a
coarse phrase that soldiers used to describe the compound. One Defense
Department specialist recalled seeing pink blotches on detainees' clothing
as well as red welts on their bodies, marks he learned later were inflicted
by soldiers who used detainees as targets and called themselves the High
Five Paintball Club.

Mr. McGraw, the military spokesman, said he had not heard of the Black Room
or the paintball club and had not seen any mention of them in the documents
he had reviewed.

In a nearby operations center, task force analysts pored over intelligence
collected from spies, detainees and remotely piloted Predator surveillance
aircraft, to piece together clues to aid soldiers on their raids. Twice
daily at noon and midnight military interrogators and their supervisors met
with officials from the C.I.A., F.B.I. and allied military units to review
operations and new intelligence.

Task Force 6-26 was a creation of the Pentagon's post-Sept. 11 campaign
against terrorism, and it quickly became the model for how the military
would gain intelligence and battle insurgents in the future. Originally
known as Task Force 121, it was formed in the summer of 2003, when the
military merged two existing Special Operations units, one hunting Osama bin
Laden in and around Afghanistan, and the other tracking Mr. Hussein in Iraq.
(Its current name is Task Force 145.)

The task force was a melting pot of military and civilian units. It drew on
elite troops from the Joint Special Operations Command, whose elements
include the Army unit Delta Force, Navy's Seal Team 6 and the 75th Ranger
Regiment. Military reservists and Defense Intelligence Agency personnel with
special skills, like interrogators, were temporarily assigned to the unit.
C.I.A. officers, F.B.I. agents and special operations forces from other
countries also worked closely with the task force.

Many of the American Special Operations soldiers wore civilian clothes and
were allowed to grow beards and long hair, setting them apart from their
uniformed colleagues. Unlike conventional soldiers and marines whose Iraq
tours lasted 7 to 12 months, unit members and their commanders typically
rotated every 90 days.

Task Force 6-26 had a singular focus: capture or kill Mr. Zarqawi, the
Jordanian militant operating in Iraq. "Anytime there was even the smell of
Zarqawi nearby, they would go out and use any means possible to get
information from a detainee," one official said.

Defense Department personnel briefed on the unit's operations said the harsh
treatment extended beyond Camp Nama to small field outposts in Baghdad,
Falluja, Balad, Ramadi and Kirkuk. These stations were often nestled within
the alleys of a city in nondescript buildings with suburban-size yards where
helicopters could land to drop off or pick up detainees.

At the outposts, some detainees were stripped naked and had cold water
thrown on them to cause the sensation of drowning, said Defense Department
personnel who served with the unit.

In January 2004, the task force captured the son of one of Mr. Hussein's
bodyguards in Tikrit. The man told Army investigators that he was forced to
strip and that he was punched in the spine until he fainted, put in front of
an air-conditioner while cold water was poured on him and kicked in the
stomach until he vomited. Army investigators were forced to close their
inquiry in June 2005 after they said task force members used battlefield
pseudonyms that made it impossible to identify and locate the soldiers
involved. The unit also asserted that 70 percent of its computer files had
been lost.

Despite the task force's access to a wide range of intelligence, its raids
were often dry holes, yielding little if any intelligence and alienating
ordinary Iraqis, Defense Department personnel said. Prisoners deemed no
threat to American troops were often driven deep into the Iraqi desert at
night and released, sometimes given $100 or more in American money for their
trouble.

Back at Camp Nama, the task force leaders established a ritual for departing
personnel who did a good job, Pentagon officials said. The commanders
presented them with two unusual mementos: a detainee hood and a souvenir
piece of tile from the medical screening room that once held Mr. Hussein.

Early Signs of Trouble

Accusations of abuse by Task Force 6-26 came as no surprise to many other
officials in Iraq. By early 2004, both the C.I.A. and the F.B.I. had
expressed alarm about the military's harsh interrogation techniques.

The C.I.A.'s Baghdad station sent a cable to headquarters on Aug. 3, 2003,
raising concern that Special Operations troops who served with agency
officers had used techniques that had become too aggressive. Five days
later, the C.I.A. issued a classified directive that prohibited its officers
from participating in harsh interrogations. Separately, the C.I.A. barred
its officers from working at Camp Nama but allowed them to keep providing
target information and other intelligence to the task force.

The warnings still echoed nearly a year later. On June 25, 2004, nearly two
months after the disclosure of the abuses at Abu Ghraib, an F.B.I. agent in
Iraq sent an e-mail message to his superiors in Washington, warning that a
detainee captured by Task Force 6-26 had suspicious burn marks on his body.
The detainee said he had been tortured. A month earlier, another F.B.I.
agent asked top bureau officials for guidance on how to deal with military
interrogators across Iraq who used techniques like loud music and yelling
that exceeded "the bounds of standard F.B.I. practice."

American generals were also alerted to the problem. In December 2003, Col.
Stuart A. Herrington, a retired Army intelligence officer, warned in a
confidential memo that medical personnel reported that prisoners seized by
the unit, then known as Task Force 121, had injuries consistent with
beatings. "It seems clear that TF 121 needs to be reined in with respect to
its treatment of detainees," Colonel Herrington concluded.

By May 2004, just as the scandal at Abu Ghraib was breaking, tensions
increased at Camp Nama between the Special Operations troops and civilian
interrogators and case officers from the D.I.A.'s Defense Human Intelligence
Service, who were there to support the unit in its fight against the Zarqawi
network. The discord, according to documents, centered on the harsh
treatment of detainees as well as restrictions the Special Operations troops
placed on their civilian colleagues, like monitoring their e-mail messages
and phone calls.

Maj. Gen. George E. Ennis, who until recently commanded the D.I.A.'s human
intelligence division, declined to be interviewed for this article. But in
written responses to questions, General Ennis said he never heard about the
numerous complaints made by D.I.A. personnel until he and his boss, Vice
Adm. Lowell E. Jacoby, then the agency's director, were briefed on June 24,
2004.

The next day, Admiral Jacoby wrote a two-page memo to Mr. Cambone, under
secretary of defense for intelligence. In it, he described a series of
complaints, including a May 2004 incident in which a D.I.A. interrogator
said he witnessed task force soldiers punch a detainee hard enough to
require medical help. The D.I.A. officer took photos of the injuries, but a
supervisor confiscated them, the memo said.

The tensions laid bare a clash of military cultures. Combat-hardened
commandos seeking a steady flow of intelligence to pinpoint insurgents grew
exasperated with civilian interrogators sent from Washington, many of whom
were novices at interrogating hostile prisoners fresh off the battlefield.

"These guys wanted results, and our debriefers were used to a civil
environment," said one Defense Department official who was briefed on the
task force operations.

Within days after Admiral Jacoby sent his memo, the D.I.A. took the
extraordinary step of temporarily withdrawing its personnel from Camp Nama.

Admiral Jacoby's memo also provoked an angry reaction from Mr. Cambone. "Get
to the bottom of this immediately. This is not acceptable," Mr. Cambone said
in a handwritten note on June 26, 2004, to his top deputy, Lt. Gen. William
G. Boykin. "In particular, I want to know if this is part of a pattern of
behavior by TF 6-26."

General Boykin said through a spokesman on March 17 that at the time he told
Mr. Cambone he had found no pattern of misconduct with the task force.

A Shroud of Secrecy

Military and legal experts say the full breadth of abuses committed by Task
Force 6-26 may never be known because of the secrecy surrounding the unit,
and the likelihood that some allegations went unreported.

In the summer of 2004, Camp Nama closed and the unit moved to a new
headquarters in Balad, 45 miles north of Baghdad. The unit's operations are
now shrouded in even tighter secrecy.

Soon after their rank-and-file clashed in 2004, D.I.A. officials in
Washington and military commanders at Fort Bragg agreed to improve how the
task force integrated specialists into its ranks. The D.I.A. is now sending
small teams of interrogators, debriefers and case officers, called
"deployable Humint teams," to work with Special Operations forces in Iraq
and Afghanistan.

Senior military commanders insist that the elite warriors, who will be
relied on more than ever in the campaign against terrorism, are now treating
detainees more humanely and can police themselves. The C.I.A. has resumed
conducting debriefings with the task force, but does not permit harsh
questioning, a C.I.A. official said.

General McChrystal, the leader of the Joint Special Operations Command,
received his third star in a promotion ceremony at Fort Bragg on March 13.

On Dec. 8, 2004, the Pentagon's spokesman, Lawrence Di Rita, said that four
Special Operations soldiers from the task force were punished for "excessive
use of force" and administering electric shocks to detainees with stun guns.
Two of the soldiers were removed from the unit. To that point, Mr. Di Rita
said, 10 task force members had been disciplined. Since then, according to
the new figures provided to The Times, the number of those disciplined for
detainee abuse has more than tripled. Nine of the 34 troops disciplined
received written or oral counseling. Others were reprimanded for slapping
detainees and other offenses.

The five Army Rangers who were court-martialed in December received
punishments including jail time of 30 days to six months and reduction in
rank. Two of them will receive bad-conduct discharges upon completion of
their sentences.

Human rights advocates and leading members of Congress say the Pentagon must
still do more to hold senior-level commanders and civilian officials
accountable for the misconduct.

The Justice Department inspector general is investigating complaints of
detainee abuse by Task Force 6-26, a senior law enforcement official said.
The only wide-ranging military inquiry into prisoner abuse by Special
Operations forces was completed nearly a year ago by Brig. Gen. Richard P.
Formica, and was sent to Congress.

But the United States Central Command has refused repeated requests from The
Times over the past several months to provide an unclassified copy of
General Formica's findings despite Mr. Rumsfeld's instructions that such a
version of all 12 major reports into detainee abuse be made public.

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TOPIC: L@@K @ What These Niggas Did.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 1:16 am
From: LEROY KNEVIL

THEY AIN'T GOT THE BALLS TO TRY THAT SHIT IN MY HOME TOWN!

Niggercrusher wrote:
> Let em come out to the backwoods with that simple shit, they won't be going
> home. That's for damn sure !!!! FACT...
>

--
*JENKEM IS THE PREFERRED DRUG FOR NIGGERS
BAGS OF RAW SEWAGE PLACED OVER THEIR NAPPY HEADS
GIVES THEM THE HIGH THEY WILL KILL FOR.
DO YOU KNOW ANY OTHER RACE THAT IS SO FUCKED UP AS TO
SNIFF SHIT FOR RECREATION!!?
THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE YELLOW EYES AND BLUE GUMS.
THE NIGGER RACE HAS SUNK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEPTIC TANK!
*I KNEW I WAS ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT NIGGERS*.
PROOF POSITIVE:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/406067.stm

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TOPIC: the ethology of blonde, brunette, and red-head
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/41c74845a22190da
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 6:18 am
From: "Comm"

"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:46iptdFbdpfqU7@individual.net...
> In alt.usage.english Xah Lee <xah@xahlee.org> wrote:
>> can the word brunette ever be used on a black-haired girl?
>
>> In English, there's the trilogy of blonde, brunette, and red-head, but
>> there's no similar term for a black-haired girl. Why's that?
>
>> i'm trying to extract any ethonology out of this linguistic situation.
>
>> the thought i have on this is that:
>
>> the English lang much pertains to Europe and modern North America.
>> However, black haired girls are mostly Asians, or Africans.

Nope. I've seen Scotmen with blue black hair, as I just posted. Imo, true
black h air is blue-black, as I just posted. Africans do not have that. I
have ONLY seen t his in Scotmen and Tatars. I never saw it in Chinese,
Korean, Japanese or any other E. Asians. Tatars are Central Asian people.
>
> That's only because Spanish girls die their hair :-)
>
> --
> Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
> IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
> [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]
>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 10:41 pm
From: "Comm"

"Phineas T. Bluster" <Ol_Grumpy@pissininthewind.org> wrote in message
news:121utn0e0iggm89@corp.supernews.com...
> On 2006-03-20, Comm <no@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>> "Xah Lee" <xah@xahlee.org> wrote in message
>> news:1141042435.416546.173660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> can the word brunette ever be used on a black-haired girl?
>>
>> Black haired people: raven haired.
> Ebon-tressed? Where the hell have I seen that?
>
>> Very very blonde: tow haired.
> How's bout:
> Dish-water blonde
> platinum
> champagne
> strawberry
> ad yukeum...
>
> harrumph...

fire engine red,
carrot top red,
strawberry blonde (red hair, actually)
auburn
brick red
mahogany.
And of course, SCREAMING red (my hair lol).
oh yeah, Bozo red. :)

Imo, real black hair is blue black. As I posted, I've seen Tatars and
Scotmen with this blue black hair. No one else. Not Africans, not Asians.
No one else. Raven haired :) It's still used. Imo, it's beautiful!

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TOPIC: Iz Ellen DeGeneres *reallY* a Lezbian ?!?!?!?!??!
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 10:19 pm
From: "The Last 2465 days™ ♥"

Gooday peoplez !!!! ;-)

I checked out the Ellen DeGeneres Show yesterday arvo on Channel 10 --
didn't think too much of the show -- but enjoyed having a good look at
the host !!!

She really iz quite a hot little chicky-babe for a Lezbian !!!!!

Sheeesh !! God works in funny ways !

Oh well !

http://tvguide.news.com.au/highlights/

HOOROO ;-)

UNCLE WALLY (PS -- Check out the Raven chicky-babe -- not too bad az
well ;-)

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 10:35 pm
From: "MOHAMAD THE JEW"

ffs

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 10:39 pm
From: "Dave Turner"

> She really iz quite a hot little chicky-babe for a Lezbian !!!!!
Incorrect.

> Sheeesh !! God works in funny ways !
tell me about it

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TOPIC: CHISTES CUBANOS ...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 1:11 am
From: "PM"

1-''titulo'>TODOS FELICES

Va Castro en su jet privado con el Jefe de defensa y Alarcon.
El piloto va atravesando la isla de Cuba. De repente, dice Alarcon ,
sacando su cartera:
---"voy a tirar este billete de $100 chavitos para hacer feliz alguna
familia ", a lo que dice Raul:
-- "¿por qué no tiras mejor dos billetes de a $100 y haces felices a dos
familias?",
a lo cual Fidel le dice: "mejor tira cuatro billetes de a $50 y haces
felices a 4 familias cubanas"
Y el piloto no se aguanta mas y les dice:
---"¿Y por qué mejor no se tiran los tres, hijos de su puta madre y hacen
feliz a todo el pueblo Cubano?"

2-<ttitulo'>Despedida de Castro

En la fiesta de despedida de inapto (90 anos)
-cuando yo triunfe, nuestra Cuba estaba al borde del edificio y ahora que me
voy,
tranquilo de que hemos dado un paso adelante.

3-'titulo'>Fidel Castro

Estaba Fidel dando un discurso, cuando de repente alguien grita;
-- "Fidel tengo hambre". y Fidel continúa, y otra vez se oye
;-- "Fidel tengo hambre".
entonces Fidel lo pasa al frente y le dan a tomar a la fuerza un litro de
agua,
el otro se la toma y le traen otro litro, y dice el hombre;
-- "pero Fidel", y le dice Fidel ----¡¡tóoomatelaaaa¡¡
ya por último le muestran al hombre una bandeja llena de comida y le dice
Fidel,
---ahora sí, come todo lo que quieras, y dice el hombre,
--- "no pues no, ya no puedo" y Fidel contesta
---- ¡ya vez, no tenías hambre, lo que tenías era sed¡¡

4-'titulo'>Sr. Presidente

>El Presidente de la República de Cuba se encuentra con tres bellas jovenes
en una fiesta de ministros, pero enseguida se da cuenta que son las hermosas
jineteras adolescentes creadas por el mismo., una pelirroja, una rubia y una
morena. Sentándose junto a ellas y dirigiéndose a la pelirroja le hizo la
siguiente pregunta:
-- Soy el Presidente de la República; ¿cuánto me cobra por pasar una noche
conmigo? A lo que la pelirroja le responde:
--A Ud. señor Presidente, le cuesta $ 200.chavitos, no quiero en americanos.
Luego le hizo la misma pregunta a la rubia, y ésta le respondió: A usted
señor Presidente, le cuesta $ 100 chavitos y no los quiero en americanos
sino pierdo.
Al mirar a la morena y hacerle la misma pregunta, ésta fue su respuesta:
---Ayyy pero "Señor Presidente, si usted puede levantar mi falda tan alto
como puso los impuestos del paladar y el alquiler, bajarme la tanga tan bajo
como están los sueldos, sacar esa cosa suya tan dura como está la vida,
mantenerla tan alta como están los precios y cogerme en esa forma tan
inteligente y delicada como usted está cogiendo al pueblo, a usted señor
Presidente, NO LE CUESTA NADA."

5-'titulo'>Colecta Urgente, caravana de la amistad y solidaridad

El comando de nuevos "Guerrilleros" ha secuestrado a un grupo completo de
ministros y miembros del partido y de la tribuna y están solicitando 3
millónes de
Dólares, una visa y un avion por su liberación y si esta petición no es
cumplida
en 24 horas los rociarán con combustible y les prenderán fuego.
Estamos haciendo una colecta y necesitamos de tu ayuda!!!!!!!!!
Al momento llevamos 125L de diesel, 175L de gasolina ,
38 cajas de fosforos y 21 encendedores. Apresúrate o los liberan!!!
Échanos la mano, que se note que eres cubano y amas a tu pais
PD: Favor de no enviar Alcohol, ni siquiera de madera, porque se lo
chupan...

6-'titulo'>EL JUDAS

Estaba el cura de la igesia La virgen de Regla dando su acostumbrada
misa de cada domingo cuando, de pronto, se aparece Jesucristo bajando
lentamente del cielo. Cuando llega al lado del cura le susurra algo al oído,
y este dirigiéndose a la multitud, dice:
--"Atiendan! Acá... Jesucristo mandado por el Dios mismo.....
quiere decirles algo" Jesucristo se asoma al balcón y tomando el micrófono
dice:
--"Habitantes de la Regla, de Guanabacoa, de Alamar,de.......,
¿no es cierto que así como yo multipliqué el pan y los peces para
dar de comer a todos, este hombre trajo los cerelac para ayudar a gente de
la tercera edad,
para que todos comieran por igual?"..
El pueblo responde:----- Siiiiiii
----"¿No es cierto, que igual que yo anduve con mis apóstoles,
el anda acompañado de choferes, chicharrones,chivatos
y colaboradores algunos de los cuales han sido considerados como ladrones?"
El pueblo incansable responde: -----"Siiiiiii"
---"¿No fue traicionado por los gusanos como yo lo fui por Judas?" El
frenético pueblo responde: -
-----"Siiiiiii"
---"¿Se le conoce como el mesías de los pueblos y de los pobres,
como a mi se me conoció como el mesías?"
Entonces la multitud ya enloquecida responde:----- "Siiiiiii"
---"Y Entonces, ¡¿qué esperan para Crucificar a ese hijo de puta?!

7-'titulo'>Castro... cul...

Va un niño cubano caminando por la calle, y se cruza con Fidel Castro, y al
ver Fidel que el niño lo ignora, le pregunta:
-"¿Oye, niño, no sabes tú quien soy yo?"
El niño le contesta:
-"No companero, no se quien es usté".
Fidel, muy enojado, le dice: "Pues como castigo por no conocer al comandante
,
ahora mismo tiene que decirme 20 palabras que comiencen con la
letra C, para que más nunca en tu vida se te olvide que mi apellido es
Castro".
Y el niño le dice:
-"Compañero comandante Castro, ¿cómo, cuándo carajo comeremos calne con
celveza Corona
como comen los cabrones comelones del Comité Central
Comunista Cubano...?"
Castro se le queda viendo asombrado, y le dice pensativo:
-Son 19. te falto uno.
Y el niño concluye: --·¡...Culicagao !

8-'titulo'>Yo no puedo morir

Se encontraban 5 personas en un avión que iba a estrellarse y solo había 4
paracaídas, entonces sale Fidel Castro y dice: "yo no puedo morir, soy el
mas intelligente del mundo y el mejor presidente de América", y salta con un
paracaídas. Después sale Raul Castro y dice: "yo no puedo morir, soy la
hermana, digo, el hermano del presidente y la primera dama,digo, ministro
de las fuerzas armadas revolucionarias, soy el que aseguro la defensa de
nuestro pais y salta con otro paracaídas. Después sale Bush y dice: "yo no
puedo morir, soy yo el más inteligente del mundo y el mandatario de Estados
Unidos, el pais mas poderoso del mundo, ademas tengo que asegurar la "paz"
mundial y salta con el tercer paracaídas. Sólo quedaban 2 personas, eran el
niño Elian y el Papa, entonces dijo el Papa:
--- "salta tu hijo mío, yo ya estoy muy viejo y tu apenas vas empezando a
vivir", entonces el niño le dice:
---- "ninguno de los 2 vamos a morir, hay 2 paracaídas, porque el que según
es el más inteligente del mundo agarro mi mochila de la escuela."
--
THE MOST DANGEROUS ENNEMY OF HUMANITY :

ARE NOT THE NUCLEAR OR MASS DESTRUCTION WEAPONS,

BUT STUPIDITY, FOR WHICH EVERY MINUTE... MANY HUMANS GET HURT.

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TOPIC: What's Israel done for America, lately... ever?
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 6:33 am
From: Yosemite Sam

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:10:41 +1100, Irving Supporter
<as_if@auswhite.com> wrote:

>Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20 Mar 2006 01:43:16 -0800, "Honest Aryan" <ha@centralpets.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just like they have been more willing to gas Jews...
>>> Lucky old Jews.
>>
>> Drop dead you racist scumhole.
>
>insults are the last refuge for the "out argued"

He's a racist, they have no argument, only hatred.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 6:33 am
From: Yosemite Sam

On 20 Mar 2006 16:55:55 -0800, "Honest Aryan" <ha@centralpets.com>
wrote:

>Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>> Pretty good, a lot of restraint was shown at our request.
>
> Arabs are about as inflamed as they're ever
>likely to get, so restraint right now is a deal less
>useful than Israeli expertise at killing them.

They do have some talent there.

> In fact, getting the IDF out from behind its
>insurgent-proof Great Wall Of Israel will empower
>Arabs to engage it in a much fairer fight and go
>some way in assuaging their anger.

Pass.

> In fact, what is needed is needed is restraint on
>'America's unwavering support for Israel in setting
> aside its own security and that of many of its allies in
> order to advance the interests of another state... giving
> it well over $140 billion since WWII... and at the beginning
> of each fiscal year so Israel can earn interest on it...
> turning a blind eye to its nuclear weapons ... etc ...etc'
> ibid
>
> http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

Blah, blah, blah...

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 6:33 am
From: Yosemite Sam

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:19:05 +1100, Irving Supporter
<as_if@auswhite.com> wrote:

>Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20 Mar 2006 08:40:08 -0800, "Honest Aryan" <ha@centralpets.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The real problem is that today's folks have
>>> difficulty getting their minds round the sheer
>>> numbers of ancient Aryans.
>>
>> Yo Adolph, fuck off and die.
>
>insults are the last refuge of the "out argued"

He's a racist, they have no argument, only hatred.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 6:33 am
From: Yosemite Sam

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:15:50 +1100, Irving Supporter
<as_if@auswhite.com> wrote:

>Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20 Mar 2006 05:44:30 -0800, "Honest Aryan" <ha@centralpets.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> You disgrace the Hovnanian hombuilding name.
>>> Is he building them in Israel too?
>>> Shame on him.
>>
>> Fuck off and die, racist scum.
>
>you are not a race

You are barely even human, fuck off and die.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 6:33 am
From: Yosemite Sam

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:13:57 +1100, Irving Supporter
<as_if@auswhite.com> wrote:

He's a racist, they have no argument, only hatred.

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TOPIC: Jobs That Americans Won't Do ?? Think Again
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5f87ba45eaeed9fb
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 10:41 pm
From: SoCalMike

George Grapman wrote:
> websurf1@cox.net wrote:
>> Titix wrote:
>>> Bev, the unions didn't kill the US auto industry. The industry itself
>>> is to
>> blame for their bad time.
>>
>> I'd think they did it together. Especially lately, when there is a
>> "job bank". Thousands of workers who were "laid off" get full pay,
>> while they sit around waiting to see if someone wants them for
>> something. Sometimes they accept volunteer positions and do some good
>> stuff. Sometimes they just sit in the office reading the newspaper.
>> Layoffs are tough--I know personally. But the jobs bank is costing
>> lots of cash to companies that are in the red. That's one reason.
>>
> Interesting that the NUMMI plant here , a joint Toyota/GM venture is
> doing fine with a full union shop.
>

i was unaware NUMMI was a UAW shop. you sure about that?

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