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TOPIC: ZIONAZIS KILLED JEWS!
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Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 9:27 pm
From: Bill Levinson
Miriam Cohen wrote:
> Bill Levinson wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> serwad wrote:
>>
>>> LEVINSON YOU ARE THE BIGGEST SCUM ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I am glad you think so. If you started to say how you agree with me, I
>> would have to off myself.
>
>
> Two lies here.
> His: that you are scum.
> Yours: that he *CAN* think :)
I heard that colonies of fecal bacteria develop collective intelligences
(at a bacterial level). That is how Serwad = El Paredon = PeterPan =
Strider = Amigocabal "thinks."
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TOPIC: Bury Muslim Beasts in Pig Fat - NY Post
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Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 12:28 am
From: "Crusader"
Cthulhu fhtagn!!
"Abdul Al-Hazred" <the_mad_@rab.com> wrote in message
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> "Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:_%fTf.968$H71.279@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> Where did you get that pre-knowledge?Necromicon?:)
>
> I was wondering how long it'd be before an H.P.Lovecraft fan caught on.
> Congrats!
>
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TOPIC: Message for LYING ZIONAZI PIG
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 12:31 am
From: "serwad"
1. That the so-called "holocaust" and the "six million" story originated
from the Zionists themselves and not from any government authority or any
other independent source.
2. That neither the February 1945 Yalta Conference (the summit of the three
leaders of Russia, US, and Britain), nor the Vatican, nor even the
International Red Cross, spoke out against any "holocaust" or "the six
million" legend, and none of them had any reason to.
3. That none of the three major personal World War II memoirs of either the
one written by French leader Charles de Gaulle, or that of the British
leader Winston Churchill, or even that of the American leader Dwight D.
Eisenhower, mentioned anything about any "holocaust".
4. That the post-World War II Nuremberg war crime trials in Germany, which
automatically "accepted" the Zionist claim of the "six million" figure, were
nothing more than partial and biased political prosecutions by the
victorious powers.
5. That the only so-called "confession" to "burning and gassing live Jews"
came from only one person on April 5 1946 - Nazi Auschwitz commandant
Colonel Rudolf Franz Hoess (or Hoss) - after he was tortured by six British
military police intelligence officers as one of them, sergeant Bernard
Clarke, later admitted.
6. That the best estimate of the total number of Jews who died or were
killed (not "gassed" or "incinerated") in and out of the German terrible
concentration camps lost their lives either from Nazi brutalities,
starvation, diseases, war-related causes, or other reasons, ranges from
300,000 to 500,000 (and not 6 millions). It should be indicated here that
during World War II about 74 million people died, the overwhelming majority
of whom were non-Jews, including the atomically bombed/incinerated civilians
of the entire two Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The late French geographer Paul Rassinier (nicknamed "the father of
holocaust revisionism"), who was elected in 1945 as a Socialist to the
French National Assembly, published in 1948 a book titled: Le Passage de la
Ligne ("Crossing the Line") in which he recounted his horrible experiences
as an interned left-wing political prisoner in the German concentration
camps of Buchenwald and Dora between 1943 and 1945. In this book and in many
others that followed it, such as The Holocaust Story and the Lies of
Ulysses, Rassinier strongly refuted the "holocaust," the "gas chambers," and
the "six million" figure.
While completely rejecting the claim of the "extermination" of Jews by the
Nazis, Rassinier generously estimated that perhaps a million Jews might have
perished [4] (a figure considered too high by many other holocaust refuters)
due to many causes between 1933 and 1945 as a result of direct and indirect
various brutal Nazi policies such as the turmoil of Jewish deportations,
harsh labor conditions, internment camps, malnutrition, diseases, epidemics,
and more importantly World War II itself.
Another French, Dr. Robert Faurisson, a former Professor at the Universite
de Lyon, also rejected the so-called Nazi "holocaust"; challenged anyone to
draw or show a "Nazi gas chamber"; described the famous Diary of Anne Frank
as a hoax; and called the Washington, DC Holocaust Memorial Museum "an
historical fiasco".
Incidentally, while there is a Holocaust Memorial Museum in the US for the
presumed "six million gassed" Jews by Nazi Germany, there are nowhere in the
US any holocaust memorial museums, reparations, or even words of apology for
either Native Americans or Black Americans who were slaughtered like animals
by the tens of millions at the hands of Euro-Americans during the largest
real holocaust the world has ever seen. In the words of the American
professor Ward Churchill, "All told, it is probable that more than one
hundred million native people were 'eliminated' in the course of Europe's
ongoing 'civilization' of the Western Hemisphere". [5] Another American
professor, David E. Stannard, writes that between 40-60 million black
Africans lost their lives in the brutalities of the Euro-Americans slavery
system. [6]
In his well researched and documented book, The Hoax of the Twentieth
Century: The Case Against the Presumed Extermination of European Jewry, Dr.
Arthur R. Butz explained that during World War II even US State Department
officials, such as J. Breckenridge Long and associates, "... considered all
the talk about 'exterminations' to be just wartime propaganda invention, in
the same spirit as the stories invented during World War I." [7] In Dr.
Butz's words, "The 'gas chambers' were wartime propaganda fantasies
completely comparable to the garbage that was shoveled out by Lord Bryce and
associates in World War I." [8]
Dr. Butz also indicated that the total number of inmates in the entire
German concentration camp system, Jews and non-Jews (since there were no
camps specifically for Jews alone), was about 224,000 in 1943 and 524,000 in
1944. [9] Moreover, Dr; Butz pointed out that Heinrich Himmler, the second
most powerful man in Nazi Germany (who supposedly "committed suicide" by
"poisoning himself" on May 23, 1945, while in British captivity), had
explained a few weeks before the end of World War II in an interview with a
representative of the World Jewish Congress that:
"In order to put a stop to the [typhus] epidemics, we were forced to burn
the bodies of incalculable numbers of [dead] people who had been destroyed
by disease. We were therefore forced to build crematoria, and on this
account they are knotting a noose for us." [10]
Finally, Dr. Butz proved that there was no direct Nazi tangible documentary
evidence of any kind for an "extermination" program. He indicated that even
Dr. Aryeh Leon Kubovy of the Israeli Center for Jewish Documentation in
Tel-Aviv admitted in 1960 that "there exists no document signed by Hitler,
Himmler or Heydrich speaking of exterminating the Jews and ... the word
'extermination' does not appear in the letter from Goering to Heydrich
concerning the final solution of the Jewish question." [11]
Also, in her 1968 book Le systeme concentrationnaire nazi, French Jewish
author Olga Wurmser-Migot writes:
"Just as there exists no ... order of extermination by gas at Auschwitz,
there exists no order to stop in November 1944. Neither at the Nuremberg
trial, nor during the course of marginal trials nor at the Hess trial in
Cracow, nor of Eichman in Israel, nor at the trial of the camp commanders
nor at the Frankfurt November 1945 - August 1946 trial of secondary
Auschwitz figures, was the famous order signed by Himmler on 22 November
1944 on the end of the extermination of Jews by gas ever found, the order
putting an end to the Final Solution." [12]
Moreover, in his book The Six Million Swindle: Blackmailing the German
People for Hard Marks with Fabricated Corpses, Dr. Austin J. App, the late
American Professor of English literature at the University of Scranton and
LaSalle College, explained the following four vital points: [13]
1. That Hitler's so-called "Final Solution" to the Jewish problem was
not "annihilation" but rather deportation or expulsion from Germany, which
was approved with the open cooperation and encouragement of the Zionists
themselves who wanted German Jews to join other Jews from around the world
to leave their own native countries in order to settle-colonize Palestine (a
Zionist plan since 1897 and in accordance with the 1917 British Balfour
Declaration).
2. That absolutely no live person (Jew or non-Jew) was ever "gassed" or
"burned" in any German concentration camp, including Auschwitz (allegedly
the main "extermination" center).
3. That the Jews who lost their lives while in Nazi hands either died
of epidemics and/or killed because they were subversives, spies, saboteurs,
criminals, or otherwise victims of unfortunate but internationally legal
reprisals.
4. That the Zionists and their American sympathizers, in and out of the
American media and motion picture industry, who constantly use the figure of
"six million" have failed to offer even a shred of evidence to prove their
charge.
In addition, other Western writers have confuted holocaust story claims.
Among them are the following two Americans: World War II Colonel John Beaty
of the US Military Intelligence Service of the War Department who ridiculed
the "six million" legend in his book Iron Curtain Over America, and Dr.
David Leslie Hoggan, a former Professor at the University of California at
Berkeley. Also, among British historians who have denied the "holocaust" are
the following two: Best-selling author David Irving, and Richard E. Harwood
who wrote a book in 1974 titled: Did Six Million Really Die?The Truth at
Last [14]. At least three German scholars refuted the "holocaust." These
include Dr. Wilhelm Staeglich who wrote Auschwitz: A Judge Looks at the
Evidence, Emil Aretz who wrote Hexen-Einmal-Eins einer Luege ("The Witches'
Multiplication Table is a Lie"), and Thies Christophersen who wrote Die
Auschwitz Luege ("The Auschwitz Lie").
Among the Japanese holocaust deniers are the following two: Dr. Masanori
Nishioka who wrote an illustrated ten-page feature article titled: "The
Greatest Taboo of Postwar History: There Were No Nazi Gas Chambers" in the
Japanese magazine Marco Polo (February, 1995), and best-selling Japanese
writer Masami Uno who described the "holocaust" and The Diary of Anne Frank
as lies.
Other prominent holocaust deniers include the following two Canadians,
publisher Ernst Zundel, and geologist and aerial photography expert John
Ball; Swiss right-wing educator Jurgen Graf; Italian document expert Carlo
Mattogno [15]; and Roger Garaudy, a leftist French writer and former member
of the French Communist Party whose book, Les mythes fondateurs de la
politique israelienne ("The Founding Myths of the Israeli Policy") was
published in 1995 in Paris by the leftist writer and publisher Pierre
Guillaume. [16]
Beside the already-mentioned Jewish author Olga Wurmser-Migot, there are
some other Western Jews who have also categorically denied that the Nazi
government ever carried out or even contemplated the "gassing" of Jews.
These include Swedish publisher Ditleib Felderer of the Jewish Information
Bulletin, American David Cole, and German scholar Joseph Ginsburg. [17]
In fact, people who dispute the "holocaust" are found even in Hollywood
itself where Jews established all of the major film studios such as
Columbia, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Paramount, Twentieth-Century Fox, Universal,
and Warner Brothers. [18] For example, in a 1983 interview with Esquire
magazine, the late prominent American actor, Robert Mitchum, scoffed at the
so-called "holocaust". When asked about the "slaughter of six million Jews"
by the Nazis, Mitchum answered: "So the Jews say, ... People dispute that."
[19]
5. Conclusion
There is no doubt whatsoever that it was from this so-called "holocaust"
(more than anything else) that Zionism has gained its wide popular
acceptance and sympathy throughout the west. This in turn led to the brutal
creation of the alien State of Israel over the land of Arab Palestine in
1948 at the extremely tragic expense of its innocent Muslim and Christian
natives.
In conclusion, however, whether the Nazis killed one single Jew or 6 million
Jews (by whatever method or means), the Germans - and certainly not the
Palestinian Arabs - should have paid the price for this so-called
"holocaust". Rationally speaking, any part of Germany (and not Palestine)
should have been the site for the creation of this brutal, illegitimate, and
illegal Jewish/Zionist State of Israel, which has been causing much death
and misery to the Arabs.
____________________________________________________
Notes:
1. Arthur R. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century: The Case Against the
Presumed Extermination of European Jewry (Newport Beach, California:
Institute for Historical Review, 1993), p. 80.
2. Ibid., p. 87.
3. See "66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust," (Newport Beach,
California: Institute of Historical Review, 1995).
4. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, p. 17.
5. Ward Churchill, Indians are Us? Culture and Genocide in Native North
America (Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1994), p. 30.
6. David E. Stannard, American Holocaust: The Conquest of the New World (New
York: Oxford University Press, 1992), p. 151.
7. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, p. 63.
8. Ibid. p. 240.
9. Ibid. p. 36.
10. Quoted in ibid., p. 240.
11. Quoted in ibid., p. 19.
12. Quoted in Roger Garaudy, The Founding Myths of the Israeli Policy (USAR
Publishing Group: IPP Printers & Publishers, 1997), pp. 48-49.
13. See Austin J. App, The Six Million Swindle: Blackmailing the German
People for Hard Marks With Fabricated Corpses (Takoma Park, Maryland:
Boniface Press, 1973).
14. Richard E. Harwood, Did Six Million Really Die? The Truth at Last
(Brighton, Sussex England: Historical Review Press, 1974).
15. For more details on the mentioned authors and their positions, which are
beyond the scope of this article, see the deliberations of the Twelfth
International Revisionist Conference on the "Holocaust" held on September
3-5, 1994 in Irvine, California, organized by The Institute for Historical
Review, Newport Beach, California.
16. Garaudy, The Founding Myths.
17. Butz The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, p. 11-12.
18. See Jewish author Neal Gabler, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews
Invented Hollywood (New York: Double Day [and Crown], 1988).
19. Barry Rehfeld, "Robert Mitchum Gives a Ran Interview," Esquire, February
1983, p. 56.
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TOPIC: International Stuff
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Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 5:31 am
From: "marika"
"marika" <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142792666.961568.200570@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
> Frank Kalder wrote:> > >
> >
> > What is its exact connotation e.g. in CHURCH FALLS?
>
> well, either the walls fell that held up the church, or it's a place
> name and falls is another word for waterfall/cascade. eg Niagara Falls
>
>
i watched a very sentimental movie today "Dragonfly", with Kevin Costner. A
waterfall was a costar because costner lost his wife near one.
that's all i will say because i don't want to give more away.'
mk5000
'Al Dormir Cuando Suenan Venden Como Pan Caliente
No Se Me Duerman Con Aquella Gente
Si Quieren Comprar Vendale La Muerte
Y Contarle La Consencia Por Que No Le Encuentren'--oye mi canto, n,o.r.e
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 11:28 pm
From: "Frank Kalder"
marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> > >
> >
> > What is its exact connotation e.g. in CHURCH FALLS?
>
> well, either the walls fell that held up the church, or it's a place
> name and falls is another word for waterfall/cascade. eg Niagara Falls
[...]
> >
> > Well, that's why we don't "talk" about 'too much' personal
> > stuff...
>
> It seems as if i do, otherwise I wouldn't have stories to tell.
>
> Friday night was St Patrick's day, and many people celebrated by going
> to restaurants and drinking a great deal of beer
>
> My very good friend opened another of his irish pubs this week rira.com
> and i attended the opening in Clarendon, which went on all week
>
> the architecture is lovely, much of it imported from old pubs in
> ireland.
>
> this one was designed based on three different irish pubs that my
> friend and his staff had visited.
>
> There's a mezzanine where you can stand and look out over the pub and
> at incredible paintings of Irish legends up above.
>
> food was incredible
> >
> > The "German Idol" is now TOBI - Tobias Regner (23):
> > http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING/msg/5b8a6804f64a718b
> >
> cool!
>
> i listened to live music too at the pub, they have a nice stage space
> for live music
>
Yeah, very nice story.
[Rí Rá Irish Pub] I really appreciate those 'old Irish'
environments. And that one seems to be just marvellous with all its
EXTRAS (as you described + www.rira.com/about/index.php).
> here's something from american idol
>
> 'You can reach me by sail boat, climb a tree and swing rope to rope
> Take a sled and slide down the slope, into these arms of mine
> You can jump on a speedy colt, cross the border in a blaze of hope
> I don't care how you get here, just get here if you can'--oleta adams
>
Sounds cute!
"Ich brenne immer noch wie die Sonne, mein Blut ist wie Feuer"
[Yet, I still burn like the sun, my blood's like fire] - Tobias
Regner, "I Still Burn"
I now called him "Prinz Tobi" -
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING_Deutsch/msg/e188302e1ad139eb?&hl=en
He's fighting to re-conquer his lost (ex) "Anni" (19). She's
got black hair,..., light-blue husky-eyes and a mega-randy figure, he
dotes. But he admits that he had a few one-night-stands with groupies
whom he had picked-up in a bar because they resembled his lost love,
though...
>
CU, Frank
--
www.haplif.de & www.haplif.de/61820.html [politics & economics]
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-GOVERNANCE [global vs. regional]
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-DESIGNER-FASHION [worldwide]
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING [international]
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TOPIC: KIKE LIAR! WHO GIVES A SHIT WHERE SHE LIVES?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3b174f129779b245
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Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 12:36 am
From: "serwad"
>> Now, is this a double lie, or a triple one when you throw in the fact
>> that he has insisted he knows where I live, and it's NOT in Britain?
>>
AND WHO GIVES A SHIT WHERE TOU LIVE, I CERTAINLY DO NOT! SOME PLACE IN A
CAVE!
1. That the so-called "holocaust" and the "six million" story originated
from the Zionists themselves and not from any government authority or any
other independent source.
2. That neither the February 1945 Yalta Conference (the summit of the three
leaders of Russia, US, and Britain), nor the Vatican, nor even the
International Red Cross, spoke out against any "holocaust" or "the six
million" legend, and none of them had any reason to.
3. That none of the three major personal World War II memoirs of either the
one written by French leader Charles de Gaulle, or that of the British
leader Winston Churchill, or even that of the American leader Dwight D.
Eisenhower, mentioned anything about any "holocaust".
4. That the post-World War II Nuremberg war crime trials in Germany, which
automatically "accepted" the Zionist claim of the "six million" figure, were
nothing more than partial and biased political prosecutions by the
victorious powers.
5. That the only so-called "confession" to "burning and gassing live Jews"
came from only one person on April 5 1946 - Nazi Auschwitz commandant
Colonel Rudolf Franz Hoess (or Hoss) - after he was tortured by six British
military police intelligence officers as one of them, sergeant Bernard
Clarke, later admitted.
6. That the best estimate of the total number of Jews who died or were
killed (not "gassed" or "incinerated") in and out of the German terrible
concentration camps lost their lives either from Nazi brutalities,
starvation, diseases, war-related causes, or other reasons, ranges from
300,000 to 500,000 (and not 6 millions). It should be indicated here that
during World War II about 74 million people died, the overwhelming majority
of whom were non-Jews, including the atomically bombed/incinerated civilians
of the entire two Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The late French geographer Paul Rassinier (nicknamed "the father of
holocaust revisionism"), who was elected in 1945 as a Socialist to the
French National Assembly, published in 1948 a book titled: Le Passage de la
Ligne ("Crossing the Line") in which he recounted his horrible experiences
as an interned left-wing political prisoner in the German concentration
camps of Buchenwald and Dora between 1943 and 1945. In this book and in many
others that followed it, such as The Holocaust Story and the Lies of
Ulysses, Rassinier strongly refuted the "holocaust," the "gas chambers," and
the "six million" figure.
While completely rejecting the claim of the "extermination" of Jews by the
Nazis, Rassinier generously estimated that perhaps a million Jews might have
perished [4] (a figure considered too high by many other holocaust refuters)
due to many causes between 1933 and 1945 as a result of direct and indirect
various brutal Nazi policies such as the turmoil of Jewish deportations,
harsh labor conditions, internment camps, malnutrition, diseases, epidemics,
and more importantly World War II itself.
Another French, Dr. Robert Faurisson, a former Professor at the Universite
de Lyon, also rejected the so-called Nazi "holocaust"; challenged anyone to
draw or show a "Nazi gas chamber"; described the famous Diary of Anne Frank
as a hoax; and called the Washington, DC Holocaust Memorial Museum "an
historical fiasco".
Incidentally, while there is a Holocaust Memorial Museum in the US for the
presumed "six million gassed" Jews by Nazi Germany, there are nowhere in the
US any holocaust memorial museums, reparations, or even words of apology for
either Native Americans or Black Americans who were slaughtered like animals
by the tens of millions at the hands of Euro-Americans during the largest
real holocaust the world has ever seen. In the words of the American
professor Ward Churchill, "All told, it is probable that more than one
hundred million native people were 'eliminated' in the course of Europe's
ongoing 'civilization' of the Western Hemisphere". [5] Another American
professor, David E. Stannard, writes that between 40-60 million black
Africans lost their lives in the brutalities of the Euro-Americans slavery
system. [6]
In his well researched and documented book, The Hoax of the Twentieth
Century: The Case Against the Presumed Extermination of European Jewry, Dr.
Arthur R. Butz explained that during World War II even US State Department
officials, such as J. Breckenridge Long and associates, "... considered all
the talk about 'exterminations' to be just wartime propaganda invention, in
the same spirit as the stories invented during World War I." [7] In Dr.
Butz's words, "The 'gas chambers' were wartime propaganda fantasies
completely comparable to the garbage that was shoveled out by Lord Bryce and
associates in World War I." [8]
Dr. Butz also indicated that the total number of inmates in the entire
German concentration camp system, Jews and non-Jews (since there were no
camps specifically for Jews alone), was about 224,000 in 1943 and 524,000 in
1944. [9] Moreover, Dr; Butz pointed out that Heinrich Himmler, the second
most powerful man in Nazi Germany (who supposedly "committed suicide" by
"poisoning himself" on May 23, 1945, while in British captivity), had
explained a few weeks before the end of World War II in an interview with a
representative of the World Jewish Congress that:
"In order to put a stop to the [typhus] epidemics, we were forced to burn
the bodies of incalculable numbers of [dead] people who had been destroyed
by disease. We were therefore forced to build crematoria, and on this
account they are knotting a noose for us." [10]
Finally, Dr. Butz proved that there was no direct Nazi tangible documentary
evidence of any kind for an "extermination" program. He indicated that even
Dr. Aryeh Leon Kubovy of the Israeli Center for Jewish Documentation in
Tel-Aviv admitted in 1960 that "there exists no document signed by Hitler,
Himmler or Heydrich speaking of exterminating the Jews and ... the word
'extermination' does not appear in the letter from Goering to Heydrich
concerning the final solution of the Jewish question." [11]
Also, in her 1968 book Le systeme concentrationnaire nazi, French Jewish
author Olga Wurmser-Migot writes:
"Just as there exists no ... order of extermination by gas at Auschwitz,
there exists no order to stop in November 1944. Neither at the Nuremberg
trial, nor during the course of marginal trials nor at the Hess trial in
Cracow, nor of Eichman in Israel, nor at the trial of the camp commanders
nor at the Frankfurt November 1945 - August 1946 trial of secondary
Auschwitz figures, was the famous order signed by Himmler on 22 November
1944 on the end of the extermination of Jews by gas ever found, the order
putting an end to the Final Solution." [12]
Moreover, in his book The Six Million Swindle: Blackmailing the German
People for Hard Marks with Fabricated Corpses, Dr. Austin J. App, the late
American Professor of English literature at the University of Scranton and
LaSalle College, explained the following four vital points: [13]
1. That Hitler's so-called "Final Solution" to the Jewish problem was
not "annihilation" but rather deportation or expulsion from Germany, which
was approved with the open cooperation and encouragement of the Zionists
themselves who wanted German Jews to join other Jews from around the world
to leave their own native countries in order to settle-colonize Palestine (a
Zionist plan since 1897 and in accordance with the 1917 British Balfour
Declaration).
2. That absolutely no live person (Jew or non-Jew) was ever "gassed" or
"burned" in any German concentration camp, including Auschwitz (allegedly
the main "extermination" center).
3. That the Jews who lost their lives while in Nazi hands either died
of epidemics and/or killed because they were subversives, spies, saboteurs,
criminals, or otherwise victims of unfortunate but internationally legal
reprisals.
4. That the Zionists and their American sympathizers, in and out of the
American media and motion picture industry, who constantly use the figure of
"six million" have failed to offer even a shred of evidence to prove their
charge.
In addition, other Western writers have confuted holocaust story claims.
Among them are the following two Americans: World War II Colonel John Beaty
of the US Military Intelligence Service of the War Department who ridiculed
the "six million" legend in his book Iron Curtain Over America, and Dr.
David Leslie Hoggan, a former Professor at the University of California at
Berkeley. Also, among British historians who have denied the "holocaust" are
the following two: Best-selling author David Irving, and Richard E. Harwood
who wrote a book in 1974 titled: Did Six Million Really Die?The Truth at
Last [14]. At least three German scholars refuted the "holocaust." These
include Dr. Wilhelm Staeglich who wrote Auschwitz: A Judge Looks at the
Evidence, Emil Aretz who wrote Hexen-Einmal-Eins einer Luege ("The Witches'
Multiplication Table is a Lie"), and Thies Christophersen who wrote Die
Auschwitz Luege ("The Auschwitz Lie").
Among the Japanese holocaust deniers are the following two: Dr. Masanori
Nishioka who wrote an illustrated ten-page feature article titled: "The
Greatest Taboo of Postwar History: There Were No Nazi Gas Chambers" in the
Japanese magazine Marco Polo (February, 1995), and best-selling Japanese
writer Masami Uno who described the "holocaust" and The Diary of Anne Frank
as lies.
Other prominent holocaust deniers include the following two Canadians,
publisher Ernst Zundel, and geologist and aerial photography expert John
Ball; Swiss right-wing educator Jurgen Graf; Italian document expert Carlo
Mattogno [15]; and Roger Garaudy, a leftist French writer and former member
of the French Communist Party whose book, Les mythes fondateurs de la
politique israelienne ("The Founding Myths of the Israeli Policy") was
published in 1995 in Paris by the leftist writer and publisher Pierre
Guillaume. [16]
Beside the already-mentioned Jewish author Olga Wurmser-Migot, there are
some other Western Jews who have also categorically denied that the Nazi
government ever carried out or even contemplated the "gassing" of Jews.
These include Swedish publisher Ditleib Felderer of the Jewish Information
Bulletin, American David Cole, and German scholar Joseph Ginsburg. [17]
In fact, people who dispute the "holocaust" are found even in Hollywood
itself where Jews established all of the major film studios such as
Columbia, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Paramount, Twentieth-Century Fox, Universal,
and Warner Brothers. [18] For example, in a 1983 interview with Esquire
magazine, the late prominent American actor, Robert Mitchum, scoffed at the
so-called "holocaust". When asked about the "slaughter of six million Jews"
by the Nazis, Mitchum answered: "So the Jews say, ... People dispute that."
[19]
5. Conclusion
There is no doubt whatsoever that it was from this so-called "holocaust"
(more than anything else) that Zionism has gained its wide popular
acceptance and sympathy throughout the west. This in turn led to the brutal
creation of the alien State of Israel over the land of Arab Palestine in
1948 at the extremely tragic expense of its innocent Muslim and Christian
natives.
In conclusion, however, whether the Nazis killed one single Jew or 6 million
Jews (by whatever method or means), the Germans - and certainly not the
Palestinian Arabs - should have paid the price for this so-called
"holocaust". Rationally speaking, any part of Germany (and not Palestine)
should have been the site for the creation of this brutal, illegitimate, and
illegal Jewish/Zionist State of Israel, which has been causing much death
and misery to the Arabs.
____________________________________________________
Notes:
1. Arthur R. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century: The Case Against the
Presumed Extermination of European Jewry (Newport Beach, California:
Institute for Historical Review, 1993), p. 80.
2. Ibid., p. 87.
3. See "66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust," (Newport Beach,
California: Institute of Historical Review, 1995).
4. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, p. 17.
5. Ward Churchill, Indians are Us? Culture and Genocide in Native North
America (Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1994), p. 30.
6. David E. Stannard, American Holocaust: The Conquest of the New World (New
York: Oxford University Press, 1992), p. 151.
7. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, p. 63.
8. Ibid. p. 240.
9. Ibid. p. 36.
10. Quoted in ibid., p. 240.
11. Quoted in ibid., p. 19.
12. Quoted in Roger Garaudy, The Founding Myths of the Israeli Policy (USAR
Publishing Group: IPP Printers & Publishers, 1997), pp. 48-49.
13. See Austin J. App, The Six Million Swindle: Blackmailing the German
People for Hard Marks With Fabricated Corpses (Takoma Park, Maryland:
Boniface Press, 1973).
14. Richard E. Harwood, Did Six Million Really Die? The Truth at Last
(Brighton, Sussex England: Historical Review Press, 1974).
15. For more details on the mentioned authors and their positions, which are
beyond the scope of this article, see the deliberations of the Twelfth
International Revisionist Conference on the "Holocaust" held on September
3-5, 1994 in Irvine, California, organized by The Institute for Historical
Review, Newport Beach, California.
16. Garaudy, The Founding Myths.
17. Butz The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, p. 11-12.
18. See Jewish author Neal Gabler, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews
Invented Hollywood (New York: Double Day [and Crown], 1988).
19. Barry Rehfeld, "Robert Mitchum Gives a Ran Interview," Esquire, February
1983, p. 56.
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TOPIC: Sanacon, la otra ramera de kastrojo
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ddf17b29dfecda8
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 12:43 am
From: "Crusader"
Eres una desgracia para esos boricuas amantes de la libertad,eres un esclavo
de tu bugarron espiritual,Pero mas que todo eres un sanaco.........:)
"Seneca" <Hispania@latin.com> wrote in message
news:op.s6o4mxdebkossn@cx214697-a...
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:28:03 -0800, Miguel <michaelgayoso1948@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Senecon.
>>
>> Nadie tiene nada en contra de los peloteros cubanos. Ellos son
>> victimas del castro-fascismo como el resto del pueblo de Cuba. Quizas
>> ellos tengan unos cuantos
>> "perks" que el 99% de los cubanos no tienen. Sin embargo, aunque los
>> esbirros extranjeros del tirano, degenerados como tu, no lo sepan: No
>> solo de pan vive el hombre.
>
> Yullesky Gurriel dijo en una entrevista frente los miles de dolares que
> le ofrecen los yanquis "Quiero jugar por mi pais." No solo de pan vive el
> hombre, ese es el hombre nuevo de Cuba.
>
> El pelotero Contreras que deserto ahora esta llorando por jugar con Cuba!
> Tiene chavos pero perdio su alma.
>
>
>> Seneca wrote:
>>> In Puerto Rico, we gave the Cuba team a wondeful welcome which led
>>> Yullesky Gurriel to say that he could feel the Puerto Rican love for
>>> Cuba.
>>> Our courageous sports leaders, both in baseball and the Olimpic Team
>>> told
>>> the United States, when they tried to exclude the Cuban team, that if
>>> Cuba
>>> did not play they would cance the hosting of the Classic in Puerto Rico.
>>>
>>> Cuba and Puerto Rico so de un pajaro las dos alas...
>>
>> Tienes razon. Pero las alas son de luibertad y no de esclavitud
>> castro-fascista..
>>>
>>>
>>> It was fascinating to see the gusano exiles swearing at the Cuban team
>>> from the bleachers and to hear the deafening boo of the more than
>>> 19,000
>>> Boricuas. The crwo roared in disgust everytiem the gusanos interrupted
>>> the
>>> game.
>>>
>>> Asi no se gana amigos . . .
>>
>> De que hablas mequetrefe?
>>>
>>> No te vistas gusanito que no vas . . . fi you are so brave, get on a
>>> boat
>>> and lan in bahia de cochino, Again!!!!
>>
>> Que guapo eres! Y por que tu no convences, por medio del voto, a que
>> los puertorrique~nos voten por la independencia? Tienes la oportunidad
>> de cambiar se sistema si asi lo desean. El pueblo de Cuba no tiene esa
>> oportunidad. Si la tuviera, hace rato que hubiera sacado de paticas
>> para la calle a los esbirros de la tirania.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:36:46 -0800, PM <pedro1940@progression.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > For Immediate Release En Español Abajo
>>> >
>>> > Press Release
>>> >
>>> > This Saturday, March 18, 2006, an International Protest will take
>>> place
>>> > at
>>> > several locations in the United States, including Miami, FL, as well
>>> as
>>> > in
>>> > Puerto Rico, Uruguay, Spain, France, Holland, Germany, and elsewhere,
>>> > against the frequent and violent repression of Cuban dissidents and
>>> > opposers
>>> > of the Castro regime, routinely carried out by agents of the regime.
>>> >
>>> > Vigilia Mambisa will participate on Saturday, at noon, at SW 8th
>>> Street
>>> > and
>>> > 36th Avenue, Miami, FL, for the purpose of supporting the
>>> International
>>> > Protest against the Castro regime, as well as protesting the presence
>>> of
>>> > the
>>> > Castro-Cuban baseball team in California, USA.
>>> >
>>> > We will have signs reading
>>> > "Baseball Players, Yes - Castro No !!!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > and others supporting the subject of the International Protest.
>>> >
>>> > The time for Cuba's freedom has come!
>>> >
>>> > Miguel Saavedra, President
>>> > Vigilia Mambisa
>>> > 326-9986
>>> >
>>> > ************************
>>> >
>>> > Nota de Prensa
>>> >
>>> > Este sábado, el 18 de marzo, 2006, se lleva a cabo una Protesta
>>> > Internacional en varios sitios de los Estados Unidos, incluso en
>>> Miami,
>>> > así
>>> > como en Puerto Rico, Uruguay, España, Francia, Holanda, Alemania, y
>>> otros
>>> > paises, contra la frecuente represión violenta llevada a cabo
>>> > rutinariamente
>>> > por agentes del régimen de Castro en contra de disidentes y opositores
>>> > del
>>> > régimen
>>> >
>>> > Vigilia Mambisa participará este sábado, a las doce del mediodía, en
>>> la
>>> > SW 8
>>> > Calle y la 36 Avenida, Miami, FL, para apoyar la Protesta
>>> > Internacionalcontr
>>> > el régimen de Castro, así como para protestar la presencia en
>>> California,
>>> > EEUU, del equipo de pelota castrocomunista, con los lemas: "Peloteros
>>> Sí
>>> > -
>>> > Castro No- Abajo Fidel", y otros lemas en apoyo del propósito de la
>>> > Protesta
>>> > Internacional.
>>> >
>>> > ¡Para Cuba Ya Es Hora!
>>> >
>>> > Miguel Saavedra, Presidente
>>> > Vigilia Mambisa
>>> > 326-9986
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > CUBA HOY, LA REALIDAD SIN PALABRAS:
>>> >
>>> http://www.netforcuba.org/InfoCuba-EN/CubainPictures/CubainPictures.htm
>>> >
>>> > HOSPITALES EN CUBA:
>>> > http://www.netforcubaenespanol.org/Enfoque/0035-SaludPublica-Cuba.htm
>>> >
>>> > Try living in a country controlled by a mad old man that is stuck in
>>> the
>>> > cold war:
>>> > www.cubaverdad.net
>>> >
>>> > http://ctp.iccas.miami.edu/
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
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TOPIC: Puta no grites mas......
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2b600d7d26e89233
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 12:46 am
From: "Crusader"
De donde sea es un ignoramous ,uno de esos con IQ de 75 1/2,Ademas de ser un
maricon de alma
"PM" <pedro1940@progression.net> wrote in message
news:hf6Tf.18250$ng.766070@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
> Crusader ,
> Sera de verdad uruguayo este sapingo , yo pregunto porque creo que los
> uruguayos tienen mejor ortografia que esa...este sapingo escribio "yorar"
> y
> " yorando" en lugar de LLORAR que es como se debe escribir ese verbo.
> --
> CUBA HOY, LA REALIDAD SIN PALABRAS:
> http://www.netforcuba.org/InfoCuba-EN/CubainPictures/CubainPictures.htm
>
> HOSPITALES EN CUBA:
> http://www.netforcubaenespanol.org/Enfoque/0035-SaludPublica-Cuba.htm
>
> Try living in a country controlled by a mad old man that is stuck in the
> cold war:
> www.cubaverdad.net
>
> http://ctp.iccas.miami.edu/
>
> "Crusader" <white@xyz.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> nF3Tf.903$H71.20@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> Perdonala que es anal-fabeta...yorando...............:)
>>
>>
>> "El Conde Lincuente" <cacique@guaiqueri.com> wrote in message
>> news:441b9870$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
>> > "edisondetampa" escribió en el mensaje ...
>> >> SEGUI YORANDO GUSANO MAMON
>> >> GUSANO MAMAPINGA
>> >> EL PAIS Q A UDS LES DA WELFARE PERDIO Y LOS CUBANOS GANARON
>> >> ASI Q UDS ,,,COMEMIERDA NO PUEDEN FESTEJAR
>> >> YOREN GUSANOS ASQUEROSOS YOREN
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > ¿Yorando? ¿Yoren?, imagino que Yorando son los habitantes de Yoren, que
>> > debe ser la capital de algún país del continente Checoeslovino.-
>> > --
>> > ~¤El Conde Lincuente¤~
>> > ~ Guaiquerí de Laisla ~
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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TOPIC: F-35, A FLOP FOO, FOO FIGHTER
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b2d5e9872504a14a
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 12:46 am
From: "serwad"
UK threatens to pull out of £140bn fighter
· Britain and America clash over stealth technology
· Ministers angry at plan to cancel Rolls-Royce engine
David Gow and Mark Milner
Monday March 20, 2006
The Guardian
Senior US aerospace and defence executives are pressing the Bush
administration to rescind its decision to deny Britain, America's loyal
ally, access to top-secret stealth technology in the new F-35, the joint
strike fighter that is the world's costliest aircraft.
Last week Lord Drayson, the British defence procurement minister, warned
senators Britain would pull out of the $250bn (£140bn) project unless the
White House and Pentagon agreed to technology transfers that would enable
Britain to retain control over its military assets and adapt the fighter to
its own needs.
Britain is contributing $2bn to the project and has opted to buy 150
fighters out of the potential 2,600 on order for the US air force, navy and
marines. But ministers are annoyed that President George Bush has cancelled
plans for a second engine - to be jointly built by Rolls-Royce and GE -
alongside one being developed by Pratt & Whitney. The F-35, worth a
potential $400bn when export orders are included, would be built by BAE
Systems in Britain and other firms, including Finmeccanica, in Italy,
Holland, Turkey, Canada, Australia, Denmark and Norway. BAE would get 20% of
the work in Britain.
Lord Drayson told the Senate armed services committee: "Without the
technology transfer to give us the confidence to deliver an aircraft fit to
fight on our terms, we will not be able to buy these aircraft." He is the
latest in a string of ministers, including Tony Blair, to demand a quid pro
quo from the Americans for the support the UK has given the Bush
administration over Iraq, Afghanistan and other military campaigns.
President Bush's draft 2007 budget excludes a second engine for the F-35,
which will save the hard-pressed Pentagon budget about $1.8bn. But GE and
Rolls-Royce executives told the senators Pratt & Whitney would benefit from
a windfall of up to $82bn over the F-35's 30-year life if it alone built the
engine. Britain is being denied access to the fighter's stealth technology
under US rules governing non-proliferation of weapons that could end up in
terrorist hands. In an effort to resolve the growing crisis in US-British
relations, American executives have told the White House to agree to a
compromise.
One told a recent conference that Nato could provide an inspectorate to
monitor any transfer of technology to countries friendly to the US while
another said the body should engage in a permanent dialogue on the issue. A
senior European executive suggested that the EU should seize the initiative,
appointing a single official to negotiate with the US, because Britain's
individual approach had failed.
They pointed out that cooperation and inter-operability of weapons systems
were vital in modern armed conflicts. But others argued that countries such
as Britain would have to contribute their own innovative technology in order
to convince the Americans the transfer was worthwhile.
Lockheed Martin, the US defence contractor in charge of the F-35 project, is
running three tests to see how much, if any, of the stealth technology can
be transferred. Executives insist Britain is exaggerating the scale of the
problem as the planes, due to come into service in 2012, may not be required
until 2014 at the earliest and Britain does not yet know what scale of
technology it requires.
Lord Drayson has made technology transfer crucial to his plans to implement
the government's new defence industrial strategy, which is designed to
ensure Britain retains the manufacturing capability it needs for national
security. "I'm a man in a hurry with this. I'm in post to reform and improve
and I sense a real opportunity to do that, a real momentum," he told the
Guardian. Amid continuing doubts about the viability of the £6bn aircraft
carriers project, he made plain he favours the restructuring of Britain's
warship sector through mergers.
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TOPIC: Do you have a moment to help Impeach President Bush?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/910b4b1caac725a9
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 9:53 pm
From: "Aardman"
"Calife" <user@user.net> wrote in message
news:441a77ce$0$14117$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Aardman wrote:
>> "Calife" <user@user.net> wrote in message
>
>>> we will give them five minutes to stop
>>>> fucking with us. One more terrorist act beyond that point, >>>> and we drive them from the face of the Earth.
>>>
>>> I love that "we" shit!
>>> See Aardman.
>>> See Aardman fume.
>>> See Aardman get really mad.
>>> See Aardman pick up his big neutron plasma gun.
>>> See Aardman driving down the streets of Hackensack, looking for
>>> turr'rriss.
>>> See Aardman finding a turr'rriss and sending him off-planet with one
>>> well-aimed bolt from the blue.
>>>
>>> Thank you Aardman!
>>>
>
>> I don't have any problem with tourists.
>
> Mmmm, tourists - terrorists - turr'rriss - terr'rists...
> I admit the challenge is great for the armchair soldier, but still....
>
>
>
>> Its the ones that stick around
>> and start trying to take over the place that I have a problem with.
>> Arabs are welcome to visit, but don't try to remake our societies.
>
> Goes both ways: don't try to remake their society (of which you understand
> and know nothing) in your image!
>
>
>
>> It makes us angry. We send soldiers, blow you to hell.
>
>
> Goes both ways as well: they're perfectly entitled to blow GI Joe to hell!
> Don't complain!!!
>
>
>> WOo hoooOO!
>
> "Black Hawk down, Black Hawk down.... help, my Marine/Army Rangers... ass
> is fried, boo hoo..."
Yeah it sucks when the ground troops get stuck in the war zone to play cop
because the political leadership wants to keep traitorous filth like you
from sniveling too loudly. Pull the ground troops and let the air force
lay down some boom smack! We shouldn't send in ground forces
until everything on the ground is well, ground up.
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TOPIC: Why Women Want Abortions = TROLL ALERT
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dba0953b7018e785
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 10:02 pm
From: tdeluc40@mailcity.com
I must disagree with your stance on Christianity. While I was baptized
Catholic I am not a practicing christian. However people who were
killed in the name of Christianity were needlessly slaughtered by evil
wrongdoers(much like the current feministas) who only wanted to gain
power and exercise control at any cost. It was the people and not the
teachings of the religion that were at fault. Anything that the Church
has done that is bad is literally dwarfed by the good things that the
Church does to help others.
Sadie O'Grady wrote:
> "ÐoÖoZ" another stolen nyn SOCK-PUPPET <darth.gantz@gmail.com> aka the troll
> JABRIOL wrote in message
> news:1142816843.201807.7750@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... .........
> snip!
>
> I wonder who is so obsessed with *CAROL* that he's now using her nym? Why
> it's the cross-posting troll JABRIOL passing as a woman again!!!!!
>
> Sadie
> How many people were killed in the name of Evolution? How many were
> killed in the name of God? No contest. Nothing good has come from
> Christianity except to make undertakers, tombstone makers and cemetery
> owners rich.
> ~~~<~~~<~~~<~~~<~~~<~~~<~~~<~~~<~~~<~~~<~~~<~~~{~~~{@
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 10:05 pm
From: tdeluc40@mailcity.com
On the issue of abortion I must say it should be allowed very much like
a man should be allowed to get a woman pregnant and not be held legally
liable for child support and he should be able to see the kid anythime
he wants. After all if women want the right to do what they want with
their bodies then men should have the same lattitiude of freedom
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 6:20 am
From: rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
<tdeluc40@mailcity.com> wrote:
>I must disagree with your stance on Christianity. While I was baptized
>Catholic I am not a practicing christian. However people who were
>killed in the name of Christianity were needlessly slaughtered by evil
>wrongdoers(much like the current feministas) who only wanted to gain
>power and exercise control at any cost. It was the people and not the
>teachings of the religion that were at fault. Anything that the Church
>has done that is bad is literally dwarfed by the good things that the
>Church does to help others.
No, the good does not justify the evil. And there has been a lot of
evil.
Even today the church is opposed to liberty and would rather see
people dead than free.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 12:39 am
From: ÐoÖoZ
Moments before spontaneously combusting <tdeluc40@mailcity.com> at
<tdeluc40@mailcity.com> was heard opining:
> On the issue of abortion I must say it should be allowed very much
> like a man should be allowed to get a woman pregnant and not be held
> legally liable for child support
Huh? They do that all the time! Just ask some of the single mothers on
welfare. The father's of their children are long gone before the child is
even born. No one holds these men liable for child support. The taxpayers
end up supporting them and their mothers.
and he should be able to see the kid
> anythime he wants.
Most of them do if they're still around after the unwanted, unplanned child
is born.
After all if women want the right to do what they
> want with their bodies then men should have the same lattitiude of
> freedom
They do! What planet are you on?
--
Du.........
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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TOPIC: Afghan Man Sentenced to Death for Converting
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bd295e44b8e99935
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 10:11 pm
From: "Romanise"
ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com wrote:
> Weasel!
Skunk would be more appropriate.
Shows what losing hindu wife to a gigolo can do to a muslim and that
too a Pakistani.
But doubt if Ranjit Mathews ever called anyone weasel, have you Ranjit?
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 11:21 pm
From: "Mohd Kaffir"
Seeker wrote:
> "Mohd Kaffir" <fragrance28_693@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1142822076.783503.257410@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Seeker wrote:
> >> "Mohd Kaffir" <fragrance28_693@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1142816666.653454.229280@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Seeker wrote:
> >> >> <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1142810312.667284.210060@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > Seeker wrote:
> >> >> >> <visualseeplus@yahoo.com> wrote ...
> >> >> >> > Religion of Peace folks.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > KABUL, Afghanistan - An Afghan man who allegedly converted from
> >> >> >> > Islam
> >> >> >> > to Christianity is being prosecuted in a Kabul court and could be
> >> >> >> > sentenced to death, a judge said Sunday.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Harami Hindu, you have such laws in India too where pain of death
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> imposed
> >> >> >> on anyone converting out of Hinduism.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no such law.
> >> >>
> >> >> I distinctly remembering reading about such a law in Tamil Nadu. Has
> >> >> that
> >> >> law been repealed?
> >> >
> >> > Really? Are you which universe you are talking about?
> >>
> >> On 5 October 2002, the state government of Tamil Nadu, India, issued an
> >> ordinance that effectively (when interpreted according to Hindutva
> >> ideology)
> >> outlawed religious conversion.
> >>
> >> http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/10497.htm
> >
> > Where did it mention "death penalty"??
>
> I don't know. I haven't read the whole thing.
You know, apologizing for writing lies make you earn respect.
Besides it is common knowledge
> how people are murdered in Indai for conversion.
>
There is no "common knowledge". You said the following:
"
Harami Hindu, you have such laws in India too where pain of death is
>> imposed
>> on anyone converting out of Hinduism.
"
> >
> > Also, you quoted an evangelical site, instead of a real news site.
> > The law was about banning conversion by coercian and bribery.
>
> And that site had a link to the indian site. It doesn't matter what,
but in
> India people don't have religious freedom to convert.
Again, prove or accept insults.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 11:24 pm
From: "Mohd Kaffir"
Seeker wrote:
> <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1142827387.493171.274500@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Seeker wrote:
> >> "Mohd Kaffir" <fragrance28_693@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1142816666.653454.229280@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Seeker wrote:
> >> >> <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1142810312.667284.210060@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > Seeker wrote:
> >> >> >> <visualseeplus@yahoo.com> wrote ...
> >> >> >> > Religion of Peace folks.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > KABUL, Afghanistan - An Afghan man who allegedly converted from
> >> >> >> > Islam
> >> >> >> > to Christianity is being prosecuted in a Kabul court and could be
> >> >> >> > sentenced to death, a judge said Sunday.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Harami Hindu, you have such laws in India too where pain of death
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> imposed
> >> >> >> on anyone converting out of Hinduism.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no such law.
> >> >>
> >> >> I distinctly remembering reading about such a law in Tamil Nadu. Has
> >> >> that
> >> >> law been repealed?
> >> >
> >> > Really? Are you which universe you are talking about?
> >>
> >> On 5 October 2002, the state government of Tamil Nadu, India, issued an
> >> ordinance that effectively (when interpreted according to Hindutva
> >> ideology)
> >> outlawed religious conversion.
> >> http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/10497.htm
> >
> > In the Tamilnadu law (repealed in 2004), a proselytizer was required to
> > inform officials of the local district about the conversion; he did not
> > require any permission to perform conversion ceremonies. It was up to
> > officials to take him to court with a charge of converting by force*,
> > allurement* or fraud* and it was upto a judge (not Hindutva
> > ideologists) to determine whether the charge had merit.
>
> The judges are Hindutaa ideologues. The political climate in Tamil Nadu is
> Hidutva.
You are a shameless liar.
Prove that the political climate in Tamil Nadu is "hundutaa".
>
> >
> > Now, why did you claim that it provided for a death penalty for
> > apostates? It provided for no penalty for a person who converted
>
> Because that's what I remembered it did. So pain of death for a convert is a
> defact law in Tamil Nadu.
>
Again, prove it.
Stop making stupid claims you are sufferring from amnesia.
> > himself, there was a penalty only for converting other people (and only
> > if converted by force, allurement or fraud), and the penalty was
> > certainly not death; it was (a maximum of) a fine and imprisonment.
>
> Why is this even needed. If someone converts a Hindu by fraud, you can
> convert that person back to Hinduism by fraud.
>
> >
> > * Definitions: (a) "allurement" means offer of any temptation in the
> > form of - (i) - any gift or gratification, either in cash or kind; (ii)
> > - grant of any material benefit, either monetary or otherwise. (b)
> > "convert" means to make one person to renounce one religion and adopt
> > another religion; (c) "force" includes a show of force or threat of
> > injury of any kind including threat of divine displeasure or social
> > ex-communication; (d) "fraudulent means" includes misrepresentation or
> > any other fraudulent contrivance.
> >
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TOPIC: Satan Is Back Home!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 10:53 pm
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TOPIC: Dynamic Website for US$ 500 Only!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 11:02 pm
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TOPIC: "The Valley Of The Wolves Iraq" - The Movie -
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/772ba8fc94dcadf3
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 11:02 pm
From: "Roza"
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TOPIC: Doktor Gogala Takes Care Of Them
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bc19c7bb7544b863
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 19 2006 11:07 pm
From: bmarjanovich@iprimus.ca
Israeli convicted over body enlargement scam
Sun Mar 19, 11:25 AM ET
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - An Israeli court sentenced a man to two years in
prison on Sunday for operating a fake clinic that offered penis
enhancements and so-called medical treatments to make people taller,
which failed to work.
Simon Sofer told dozens of clients he was a doctor and said he could
add up to 10 cm (3.9 inches) to their height or six cm (2.4 inches) to
their genitals, the Tel Aviv court said.
His clinic, in operation since 1999, was not medically supervised, a
government prosecutor had told the court.
Sofer has appealed the conviction.
He pre-charged patients 5,250 and 16,000 shekels (640 pounds and 1,953
pounds) to increase their height with a Russian-made treatment method.
He told the court genitalia enlargements were not performed, despite
advertisements that promised them.
People who sought to become taller were suspended from the air by their
arms and legs, or had their bodies stretched with weights. Others were
poked with needles or given food supplements and exercises to perform
at home.
"Only a lunatic could take a person who has not been checked (by a
doctor) and hang him upside down," the court in a transcript quoted a
witness as saying at one trial session in February.
The court said Sofer had endangered the health of his clients and that
none had received their "expected" result.
A judge sentenced him to two years jail, taking into account he had no
criminal record and lives with his mother, who supports him
financially.
The court gave no age for Sofer.
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TOPIC: CHINESE TOLD BUSH GO FUCK HIS MOTHER!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a1294ee1a5c92a08
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 1:10 am
From: bob young
Nakano wrote:
> How many submarine, fighter aitcrafts, missiles and tanks we intend to
> deploy is nobody's fucking business. You can do two things though, go fuck
> your mother or ask your dog to fuck your wife!
>
> I am saying this to every Americans, Australians, Japanese and any bastards
> who dare to question my right to spend my money !!!
So speaks the voice of 'International Harmony'.
Is there 'any' hope for the future of mankind ?
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 1:11 am
From: bob young
islamsucks@techemail.com wrote:
> Nakano wrote:
> > How many submarine, fighter aitcrafts, missiles and tanks we intend to
> > deploy is nobody's fucking business. You can do two things though, go fuck
> > your mother or ask your dog to fuck your wife!
> >
> > I am saying this to every Americans, Australians, Japanese and any bastards
> > who dare to question my right to spend my money !!!
>
> Listen up bug eater, we tell you chinks what to do and when to do it
> and if you have anything to say other then YES SIR we will have you
> back pulling rickshaws within a week. CHINA SUCKS DICK fucking greasy
> black haired vermin.
So speaks the voice of 'International Harmony'.
Is there 'any' hope for the future of mankind ?
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 1:12 am
From: bob young
artie morty wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:08:48 +0800, "Nakano" <nakano@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >How many submarine, fighter aitcrafts, missiles and tanks we intend to
> >deploy is nobody's fucking business. You can do two things though, go fuck
> >your mother or ask your dog to fuck your wife!
> >
> >I am saying this to every Americans, Australians, Japanese and any bastards
> >who dare to question my right to spend my money !!!
> >
>
> Lighten up nakano.
>
> Have you ever heard of the 'Tightrope Man'
>
> It is the theory that the 'so called' superpowers actually let each
> other know their defensive strenghts, for the purposes of retaining
> stability.
>
> It has been suggested that they have even helped each others
> technological development with the sole purpose of retaining the
> balance.
>
> Try to think outside the square nakano - the worlds defence against
> China does not come from a military aspect, it is purely economical.
>
> The world has accepted China's industrial and economic growth, China
> has accepted the world to supply raw materials, designs and a market.
>
> They are in a state of symbiosis - why would either want to upset that
> now.
>
> I presume the quest for world domination sunk with the cold war.
>
> Artie...
So speaks the voice of 'International Harmony'.
Let us hope with this viewpoint that there is hope for the future of mankind ?
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 3:14 pm
From: Jim Walsh
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:11:02 +0800, bob young wrote (in article
<441E551B.F222A0D3@netvigator.com>):
> islamsucks@techemail.com wrote:
>> ....CHINA SUCKS DICK fucking greasy black haired vermin.
>
> So speaks the voice of 'International Harmony'.
>
> Is there 'any' hope for the future of mankind ?
Yes, because that is NOT the voice of International Harmony.
--
Love, Jim
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