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Tuesday, March 28, 2006
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Today's topics:

* MURDER OF RACHEL CORRIE, AN AMERICAN HEROINE - 5 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/230b20b958a3d3ba
* Wong Kan Seng on the new mandate - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f20cee8fba18dbf6
* International Stuff - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5d1b6b36a66fef20
* Conservatives for 9/11 Truth - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7442d75baa2e1b2b
* This Old House - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5149fd619e7b4000
* Edmonton Losing Thousands of Jobs!! More to Go!! - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d42abb47da342a36
* Pope Pius XII vindicated! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/aa185a3ef6349ee0
* Muslims Wage War on Sweden <=== * MUST READ * - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e75e11605642af23
* Israel Shuns Victory - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c80895d77a04d422
* Illegal Hispanic Immigration & rally in LA - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/965a78900803abba
* Article on GM/Delphi buyouts and Media Coverage - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/245fff959d974ada
* WORLD WAR III NEWS, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 29th, 2006 AD............... - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6b48f4818e8478ff
* South Carolina Approves Seeking Death for Pedophiles - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2196233371a35288
* Affirmative action should be instituted in ALL college and professional
sports! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9289b2c8aa36603f
* GASOLINE ([PETROL) PRICES WILL JUMP IN PRICE FROM AROUND $1.20 TO $3.29 PER
LITER NEXT WEEK !!! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6b0bba95363bd28b
* "Baseball Players, Yes - Castro No !!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6a6e5a22d3829875
* Bush's luck: due for a change?<---------From bad to complete and total
incompentance. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d6b9166705392b88

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TOPIC: MURDER OF RACHEL CORRIE, AN AMERICAN HEROINE
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/230b20b958a3d3ba
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 8:51 pm
From: AnonMoos

"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>"AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message news:4428BE72.E9E9ABAB@io.com...

>> Hey StriderCabal, I think we Americans will determine who is
>> and who isn't an American hero, without any input from lying racist
>> Serbian hate-bigots like you! Flag-burning "hate-America-firsters"
>> may not qualify...

> YOU ARE NO AMERICAN, YOU ARSE LICKING JEW PIG!

I'm not a Jew, but I am a born United States citizen -- so I don't think
I need any lessons in Americanism from a non-citizen hate-bigot like you!

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Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 8:55 pm
From: AnonMoos

"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> You got that right amigo, Americans are the stupidest people on planet Earth
> led by the nose by ZioNazis!

Translation -- StriderCabal is upset that his racist hate-bigoted views
are not gaining broader political support in America (a country where he
lives, but isn't even a citizen...).

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Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 9:01 pm
From: AnonMoos

Read URL:<news:440B00A3.91664B4A@io.com> again, and you might gain
enlightenment this time.

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Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 6:57 pm
From: "Sheldon Liberman"

serwad wrote:
> "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
> news:8b2Wf.35940$ty4.7674@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:u%1Wf.280$I7.123@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >>
> >> "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
> >> news:QP1Wf.35937$ty4.14681@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >>>
> >>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:cq1Wf.259$I7.225@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >>>> The lonesome death of Rachel Corrie
> >>>
> >>> How is her death lonesome? It is constantly being brought up by silly
> >>> antisemites and kooks, such as yourself.
> >>
> >> ARE YOU AGAIN MAKEING A WORTHLESS CLAIM THAT JEWS ARE SEMITES?
> >
> >
> > Are you making a claim that you are sane?
> NOBODY IN HIS RIGHT MIND BELIEVES FOR A MINUTE THAT JEWS ARE SEMITES,
> ARSEHOLE! THE ONLY SEMITES IN THE WORLD TODAY ARE ARABS!

Nobody in their right minds believes that they aren't. Thanks for being
you.

> >
> >> RACHEL WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN UNTIL HER KILLERS HANG,
> > AND EVEN THEN HER
> >> MEMORY WILL SHOW THE WORLD NEVER TO TRUST THE JEWISH FASCISTS WITH
> >> ANYTHING!
> >
> > Absolutely, Hang Shapiro and the rest of the communists along with their
> > islamozoid buddies at the ISM.
> THE DAY WILL COME TO HANG THE ISRAELI BUTCHERS ONE BY ONE!
> >
> >

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 7:02 pm
From: "Sheldon Liberman"

serwad wrote:
> The lonesome death of Rachel Corrie
>
{crap flushed}

Anyone who considers Corrie a heroine, I dare say, knows much about
heroin.

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TOPIC: Wong Kan Seng on the new mandate
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f20cee8fba18dbf6
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 6:45 pm
From: Chia Thye Poh

"Tweety" <birdman@bluewater.net> wrote in message news:48u48nFlbui5U6@individual.net...
> On 28 Mar 2006 16:43:33 -0800, "Starbucks" <jangofett@earthling.net> wrote:
>
> So you think we are dumb huh? After nomination day we will again win without
> even counting a single vote. After the poll close we will win by more than 75%!

Who are *we* you are refering to? Any credential to prove that you are a PAP member? Or are you a
PAP running dog and balls' licker?

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TOPIC: International Stuff
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5d1b6b36a66fef20
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 6:53 pm
From: "marika"

Frank Kalder wrote:

>
> [Tanja Bülter of "n-tv" (Bertelsmann/CNN)]
>
> Tanja spent one whole day with Sharon Stone in Berlin.
> http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING_Deutsch/msg/f912670bcd841976
>

LUCKY her. I saw an interview with her the other day she looks
UNBELIEVABLE.
She said that after you see this movie, there will be no doubt about
what Basic Instinct is about and why it is about her (or something like
that), She said the name of a character of the movie and said that
there is no doubt it's not about THat person but about her

>
> [Cosmopolitan Nightclub] You may click on the KitKatClub link, I
> provided there...

being tired as it was a REALLY EXCESSIVELY LONG DAY, I see the people
in their lack of clothes and determine that it is an alternative club.
But what is it really. Music, performance, sex shows, dancing, live
music? Also, I am
missing something. Why did you mention the kit kat club to Tanja. I
mean why did you mention any club at all?

It's been another impossibly long day with too much for me to do and
not enough time and not enough energy.

I want this to end, but they may extend me to July so that they can
permanently fill the job for which i may not apply. Which is ok who
would WANT this.

I stopped at the little Chinese restaurant on my way home I often get
mushu anything with a martini on such long days when I don't have time
to cook or otherwise do anything about nourishment. As fat as I am,
this eating schedule isn't contributing to my diet.

However, on opening my fortune cooke I found out that curry chicken is
called Golly Gee!

And that "your life is like a kaleidoscope"

I am so happy my life is like a tube with colors at the end. Could my
life be more perfect?

Yes I am always looking down a tube at the rest of life. Thank god I
put jewelry at the end of my fingers to mimic the kaleidoscope effect
otherwise I would never have a real kaleidoscope at the end of my tube.

which remind me of another jewelry piece at the renwick called
Gamefish, which was composed of many extra pieces of a game -- chess,
board games, jacks, etc etc.

kaleidoscopal indeed

mk5000

"the type that'll keep my Nikes extra white/Like seeing goth girls
in fluorescent light." --apathy, eastern philosophy

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TOPIC: Conservatives for 9/11 Truth
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7442d75baa2e1b2b
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 1:38 pm
From: artie morty

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:43:35 +0800, "Observer"
<observer111@yahoo1.com> wrote:

>
>"artie morty" <artiemorty@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>news:47ch22927to2v62itpr1ts5sepmt8mv6tf@4ax.com...
>> >And the clown just keeps going. Laughable.
>>
>> Why don't you try to prove him wrong, instead of just abusing him?
>>
>> Better still - why don't you post one point that will substantiate
>> (with evidence) that either of the twin towers collapsed in a natural
>> state.
>
>
>Ok....lets assume that the said "engineer" and
>"university professors" are in fact real.
>Lets start with SIMPLE calculations to start
>the ball rolling for them to show how good a
>"scientist" they are.
>
>Hmmm....if I recall High School maths...it
>goes like this...
>For linear movements...(the buildings did fall
>in a straight line, didn't they? Or are our resident
>engineer and professor claiming they fell in an arc?
>LOL).
>
>a = (v - vi) / t
>
>Since its falling down under gravitational force
>a = g
>
>Hence
>g = (vf - vi) / t
>
>Solving for t where t is the time it takes
>for a mass on at the very top of collapsing WTC
>to fall to the ground.
>t = (vf - vi) / g
>
>Since vi = 0
>t = vf / g
>
>Assuming constant acceleration during collapse
>v avg = vf / 2
>
>Hence
>v avg = d / t where d is the height of the WTC.
>
>Thus
>t = d / v avg
> = d / vf / 2
> = 2d / vf
> = 2d / gt
>
>t^2 = 2d / g
>t = sqrt ( 2d / g)
>
>Hehe....see how easy it is to calculate the THEORETICAL
>time it would take for the top of WTC to reach the ground
>if its a FREEFALL condition without any resistance....including
>air resistance.
>See....these are all easily available in any High School
>textbooks.
>You cannot run away from these simple straight
>forward calculations.
>You can simply substitute the actual dimensions
>of WTC into the formula and get the theoretical
>time it should take to fall in PERFECT vacuum...
>its not rocket science.
>
>Can these equations be WRONG?
>Are we teaching our students WRONG stuffs
>all these while?
>
>Now...any true blue engineer would know that in
>the real world, its not perfect. There are resistances
>(to a freefall) encountered....because the object did NOT fall
>in a vacuum. So any true blue engineer would factor
>in those real world resistances into the above "perfect"
>formula.
>So how would our "engineer" remodel this very
>simple High School kinematics formula?
>
>But we may be dealing with FAKE engineers who
>even claim that tonnes of titanium can be vaporised
>into thin air without being able to show the heat
>calculations.
>
>Hey artie...can you start the ball rolling for the
>heat calculations (make it simple High School
>maths so that there no excuse that our resident
>engineer does NOT know it) to let our resident
>"engineer" and a certain university professor
>complete it....(if they can...that is)
>LOL.
>

It has been estimated the 767's that hit the WTC held approximately
10,000 gallons of fuel each (the tanks were not full - verified by
government report)

1 US gallon = 3.7584 litres

Therefore 10,000 gallons = 37584 litres.

1000 liters = 1 cubic meter

Therefore 37584 litres = 37.584 cubic meters

This is the equivalent to a toddlers swimming pool 6.2 meters * 6.2
meters * 1 meter deep.

This could also be approximately expressed as (3.4m * 3.4m * 3.4m) or
(11 feet * 11 feet * 11 feet).

That is no bigger volume than a normal kids bedroom.

The official report disclosed that the WTC did not collapse due to the
impact of the planes, they fell from structural weakness due to the
heat caused by the fire fueled by the jet fuel.

The explosion on impact clearly shows that a large amount (estimated
at between 10 to 30%) of the fuel exploded outside the building,
further reducing the amount of burning fuel inside the tower.

The structural steel in each floor of the towers was approximately
960,000 kilograms, and the surface area of each floor was
approximately 3200 square meters.

This has extremely large and efficient heatsink properties.

The melting point of the structural steel was 2800 degrees F,
structural collapse 2800 degrees F - the thermal generation of heat
created by the combustion of aviation fuel is 500 - 800 Degrees F.

Is it reasonable to assume that the energy generated by the combustion
of this small amount of jet fuel could actually weaken the structure
of one floor of the WTC enough for it to cause the collapse of a
building with a mass of 500,000,000 kg?

Artie....

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TOPIC: This Old House
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5149fd619e7b4000
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 3:12 am
From: "DoD"

[Not really sure why I am posting this. I just thought maybe it was a good
read along the lines of introspection. That and of course it was written by
Hanson]

I live in a central California farmhouse built by my great-great-grandmother
in the 1870s. But if the clapboard house looks more or less unchanged from
its earliest photographs taken in the 1920s, the world down the road is
unrecognizable.

In 1890, my grandfather was born here. Eighty years later he still related
to us his grandmother's wild stories of post-Civil War Missouri. She along
with her son, my great-grandfather, had come west from there on the new
railroad. When they arrived, they built a shack not far from my front door.

Disease, drought and gunfights over water were the existential challenges
that lapped around the early farm. For 50 years until the advent of running
water, electricity and gas engines, the household's members worried whether
or not they would eat.

My grandfather added a modern kitchen in the 1940s. And he faced more
complex challenges than the elemental hunger and illness of his
predecessors, such as trying to sell raisins for $30 a ton during the
Depression.

The house and farm were saved in the 1970s by my parents' jobs in town.
Before they died, they worried for us, the more affluent and leisured, about
globalization that crashed fruit prices and about rising taxes, along with
more government paperwork and requirements.

For us, the more privileged fifth generation who added another bathroom and
enlarged the yard, the challenges were more postmodern - massive illegal
immigration, the spread of rural meth labs, or the end altogether of family
farms like ours.

But through all these cycles of American history, the populists in the
house - whether reciting William Jennings Bryan's 1896 "Cross of Gold"
speech or mounting Edwin Markham's poem 1899 "Man With a Hoe" on the
staircase, where it still hangs - were at least able to make sense of the
world along recognizable fault lines.

Democrats mostly were union people, desperate farmers or the less affluent
who wanted greater government help for their weak farm prices, minimum wages
and bleak retirements. I see them still in faded brown pictures, leaning in
their overalls against Model-Ts in our driveway.

More affluent Republicans in town believed the less government and taxes,
the better. Democrats were thought of as naifs for promoting democratic
idealism abroad; conservatives were hardheaded realists who counseled us to
keep our distance from a scary world.

Enemies overseas wore jackboots and advanced awful ideologies - fascism,
Nazism, and communism - that were European-inspired and thus at least
somewhat familiar.

All those conventional divides, big and small, I remember being rehashed in
our dining room in the 1960s as generations of dead ancestors stared down in
sympathetic silence from their sepia portraits.

But my children, the sixth-generation inheritors of the house, are facing a
surreal world. The new leaders of the left, not much different in their
lifestyles from those on the elite right, are now almost all
multimillionaires. Their populism focuses on everything from gay marriage
and unrestricted abortion to stopping Arctic oil exploration.

Jihadists don't wear uniforms. Even hostile countries that subsidize such
terrorists deny doing so. Nazis and Stalinists never toppled an American
office building; Islamists with far fewer resources have. And in a world of
miniaturized weapons and easy global travel, they have a better chance of
repeating their carnage than any of our earlier, more recognizable enemies.

It was once easy to rail at the interest charged by the local land bank or
the freight rates of the railroad. But how do you compete against
high-quality Chilean grapes in the local mega-store? Is the Wal-Mart, now
only two miles distant, pernicious for destroying local hardware stores, or
beneficial for providing low-cost goods for the legions of poor who prefer
it - or neither?

But the greatest difference is that those first four generations who lived
and died in this house shared a certain tragic vision of man's limitations.
Perhaps they lost too many crops before harvest. Or they grew to assume that
optimistic weather reports and upbeat cooperative newsletters were hardly to
be trusted as "intelligence." They considered the choices in their many wars
only between bad or worse, and that the Americans who fought them did not
have to be perfect to still be good.

Now this relic of a house has a TV dish on the roof and automatic garage
doors. Yet otherwise it must look about the same as when someone, whom I
seem to know but never saw, built it right after the Civil War. But while we
can still recognize it as the familiar solid house of old, I wonder whether
it would say the same of us now inside.

http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson032706.html

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TOPIC: Edmonton Losing Thousands of Jobs!! More to Go!!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d42abb47da342a36
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 8:13 pm
From: "\"KATO\""

"Georges Fockstein" <Flavia18@verizon.netz> wrote in message
news:5c44b1ttdve17c4obajrimvo75j3b6lo06@4ax.com...

i am a old man looking for boy toys over the age of 18 (this is for
dickheads who think i am looking for underage boys). does anyone know where
i can get an boy toy over the age of 18? something nasty? this is the type i
am looking for:
www.boytoyvideos.com
especially that guy on the right hand side with the moronic look on his
face. he looks nice and clueless. haha ha haahhahahaha ah h a!

--
"You gotta be smarter than your oponant."

---- Big Dumb Dave. (bigdumbdave29@yahoo.com)

"Members of the 3rd right (Nazi/facist)?"

---- Scotty a.k.a. mr. third right. (cluelessscottyf44@canada.com)

.--------------------------------------.
( BAHHHH! KATO is an friend too )
( my rear end BAHHHHH! )
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 8:13 pm
From: "\"KATO\""

"Georges Fockstein" <Flavia18@verizon.netz> wrote in message
news:5c44b1ttdve17c4obajrimvo75j3b6lo06@4ax.com...

i am a old man looking for boy toys over the age of 18 (this is for
dickheads who think i am looking for underage boys). does anyone know where
i can get an boy toy over the age of 18? something nasty? this is the type i
am looking for:
www.boytoyvideos.com
especially that guy on the right hand side with the moronic look on his
face. he looks nice and clueless. haha ha haahhahahaha ah h a!

--
"You gotta be smarter than your oponant."

---- Big Dumb Dave. (bigdumbdave29@yahoo.com)

"Members of the 3rd right (Nazi/facist)?"

---- Scotty a.k.a. mr. third right. (cluelessscottyf44@canada.com)

.--------------------------------------.
( BAHHHH! KATO is an friend too )
( my rear end BAHHHHH! )
`--------------------------------------'
, ,/
O@O
@ @@@
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TOPIC: Pope Pius XII vindicated!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/aa185a3ef6349ee0
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 10:17 pm
From: "bam"

<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0_eWf.14241$ES3.12880@trnddc02...
>
> On 28-Mar-2006, "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually closer to 30million or more gentiles were killed in WWII.
>> Only 6 million Jews were murdered by the Nazis as part of an organized
>> system devoted to the elimination of all Jews in Europe.
>
> Yes, I think that the preious poster was referring solely to non-military
> related deaths. I also think the total is closer to 6 than 5 million, but
> I
> wasn't going to argue numbers so much as context in this post.
>
>
> There were no
>> Nazi
>> plan to murder people on the basis of nationality nor any other religion
>> except Jews.
>> There were no Gas chambers coordinated with crematoria to "process"
>> gentiles.
>> No gentiles had their gold teeth removed for processing for the Nazis nor
>> did the Nazis ever shear the hair of gentile females to be processed, by
>> the
>> ton, for German industry.
>
> Yes, the treatment meted out to Jews was unique - as is the fact that
> denial centers solely on the Jews.

Yep - there are about ten or twenty Holocaust deniers.

BAM

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TOPIC: Muslims Wage War on Sweden <=== * MUST READ *
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e75e11605642af23
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 9:18 pm
From: N A H

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/938

Swedish Welfare State Collapses as Immigrants Wage War

The Brussels Journal

Tue, 2006-03-28 21:49

Muslim Immigrant Criminal:

"Power for me means that the Swedes shall look
at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet."

Last year I wrote an article about how Swedish society is
disintegrating and is in danger of collapsing, at least in certain
areas and regions. The country that gave us Bergman, ABBA and Volvo
could become known as the Bosnia of northern Europe. The "Swedish
model" would no longer refer to a stable and peaceful state with an
advanced economy, but to a Eurabian horror story of utopian
multiculturalism, socialist mismanagement and runaway immigration.
Some thought I was exaggerating, and that talk of the possibility of a
future civil war in Sweden was pure paranoia. Was it?

In a new sociological survey (pdf in Swedish, with brief English
introduction) entitled "Vi krigar mot svenskarna" ("We’re waging a war
against the Swedes"), young immigrants in the troubled city of Malmö
have been interviewed about why they are involved in crime. Although
it is not stated, most of the immigrant perpetrators are Muslims. In
one of the rare instances where the Swedish media actually revealed
the truth, the newspaper Aftonbladet reported several years ago that 9
out of 10 of the most criminal ethnic groups in Sweden came from
Muslim countries. This must be borne in mind whilst reading the
following newspaper article:

Immigrants are "waging war" against Swedes through robbery

The wave of robberies the city of Malmö has witnessed during this past
year is part of a "war against the Swedes." This is the explanation
given by young robbers from immigrant backgrounds when questioned
about why they only rob native Swedes, in interviews with Petra
Åkesson for her thesis in sociology. "I read a report about young
robbers in Stockholm and Malmö and wanted to know why they rob other
youths. It usually does not involve a lot of money," she says. She
interviewed boys between 15 and 17 years old, both individually and in
groups.

Almost 90% of all robberies reported to the police were committed by
gangs, not individuals. "When we are in the city and robbing we are
waging a war, waging a war against the Swedes." This argument was
repeated several times. "Power for me means that the Swedes shall look
at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet." The boys explain,
laughingly, that "there is a thrilling sensation in your body when
you’re robbing, you feel satisfied and happy, it feels as if you’ve
succeeded, it simply feels good." "It’s so easy to rob Swedes, so
easy." "We rob every single day, as often as we want to, whenever we
want to." The immigrant youth regard the Swedes as stupid and
cowardly: "The Swedes don’t do anything, they just give us the stuff.
They’re so wimpy." The young robbers do not plan their crimes: "No, we
just see some Swedes that look rich or have nice mobile phones and
then we rob them."

Why do they hate the Swedes so much? "Well, they hate us," Petra
Åkesson reports them as answering. "When a Swede goes shopping, the
lady behind the counter gives him the money back into his hand, looks
into his eyes and laughs. When we go shopping, she puts the money on
the counter and looks the other way." Åkesson, who is adopted from Sri
Lanka and hence does not look like a native Swede, says it was not
difficult to get the boys to talk about their crimes. Rather they were
bragging about who had committed the most robberies. Malin Åkerström,a
professor in sociology, sees only one solution to the problem: "Jobs
for everybody. If this entails a deregulation of the labor market to
create more jobs, then we should do so."

It is interesting to note that these Muslim immigrants state quite
openly that they are involved in a "war," and see participation in
crime and harassment of the native population as such. This is
completely in line with what I have posited before. The number of rape
charges in Sweden has quadrupled in just above twenty years. Rape
cases involving children under the age of 15 are six times as common
today as they were a generation ago. Most other kinds of violent crime
have rapidly increased, too. Instability is spreading to most urban
and suburban areas. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and
Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects. Lawyer Ann Christine
Hjelm found that 85 per cent of the convicted rapists were born on
foreign soil or from foreign parents. The phenomenon is not restricted
to Sweden. The number of rapes committed by Muslim immigrants in
Western nations is so extremely high that it is difficult to view
these rapes as merely random acts of individuals. It resembles
warfare. This is happening in most Western European countries, as well
as in other non muslim countries such as India. European jails are
filling up with Muslims imprisoned for robberies and all kinds of
violent crimes, and Muslims bomb European civilians. One can see the
mainstream media are struggling to make sense of all of this. That is
because they cannot, or do not want to, see the obvious: this is
exactly how an invading army would behave: rape, pillage and bombing.
If many of the Muslim immigrants see themselves as conquerors in a
war, it all makes perfect sense.

Malmö in Sweden, set to become the first Scandinavian city with a
Muslim majority within a decade or two, has nine times as many
reported robberies per capita as Copenhagen, Denmark. Yet the number
one priority for the political class in Sweden during this year’s
national election campaign seems to be demonizing neighboring Denmark
for "xenophobia" and a "brutal" debate about Muslim immigration.
During last years Jihad riots in France, Sweden’s Social Democratic
Prime Minister Göran Persson criticised the way the French government
handled the unrest in the country. "It feels like a very hard and
confrontational approach." Persson also rejected the idea of more
local police as a "first step" in Sweden. "I don’t believe that’s the
way we would choose in Sweden. To start sending out signals about
strengthening the police is to break with the political line we have
chosen to follow," he said. Meanwhile, as their authorities have
largely abandoned their third largest city to creeping anarchy, there
is open talk among the native Swedes still remaining in Malmö of
forming vigilante groups armed with baseball bats out of concern for
their children’s safety. As I argued in another essay: If Arnold
Schwarzenegger fails to get re-elected as Governor of California he
may like to do a sequel to "Conan the Barbarian." He could shoot it in
Malmö. He will get the extras for free.

What happened to the famous Swedish nanny state, you say? Don’t Swedes
pay the highest tax rates in the world? Yes, they do. But tens of
billions of kroner, some say several hundred billions, are being spent
every year on propping up rapidly growing communities of Muslim
immigrants. Sweden has become the entire world’s welfare office,
because the political elites have decided that massive Muslim
immigration is "good for the economy." Soon Sweden’s "army" may
comprise no more than 5,000 men, five thousand troops to defend a
nation more than three times the area of England. Moreover, it may
take up to a year to assemble all of them, provided they are not on
peacekeeping missions abroad. That Sweden might soon need a little
peacekeeping at home seems to escape the establishment. In 2006 the
celebrated Swedish welfare state has become the world’s largest
pyramid scheme, an Enron with a national flag.

Although Sweden is an extreme example, similar stories could be told
about much of Western Europe. As Mark Steyn points out, the Jihad in
the streets of France looked like the early skirmishes of an impending
Eurabian civil war, brought on by massive Muslim immigration and
Multicultural stupidity. Law and order is slowly breaking down in
major and even minor cities across the European continent, and the
streets are ruled by aggressive gangs of Muslim youngsters. At the
same time, Europeans are paying some of the highest taxes in the
world. We should remind our authorities that the most important task
of the state – some would even claim it should be the only task of the
state – is to uphold the rule of law in exchange for taxation. Since
it is becoming pretty obvious that this is no longer the case in
Eurabia, we should question whether these taxes are still legitimate,
or whether they are simply disguised Jizya paid in the form of welfare
to Muslims and our new Eurocrat aristocracy. Although not exactly the
Boston Tea Party, perhaps the time has now come for a pan-European tax
rebellion: We will no longer pay taxes until our authorities restore
law and order and close the borders to Muslim immigration.

This is urgent. When enough people feel that the system is no longer
working and that the social contract has been breached, the entire
fabric of democratic society could unravel. What happens when the
welfare state system breaks down, and there is no longer enough money
to "grease" the increasing tensions between immigrants and native
Europeans? And what happens when people discover that their own
leaders, through the EU networks and the Euro-Arab Dialogue described
by Bat Ye’or in her book "Eurabia," have been encouraging all these
Muslims to settle here in the first place? There will be massive
unemployment, and tens of millions of people will feel angry, scared
and humiliated, betrayed by the system, by society and by their own
democratic leaders. This is a situation in some ways similar to the
Great Depression that led to the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s. Is
this where we are heading once again, with fear, rising Fascism and
political assassinations? The difference is that the "Jewish threat"
in the 1930s was entirely fictional, whereas the "Islamic threat" now
is very real. However, it is precisely the trauma caused by the events
of 70 years ago that is clouding our judgement this time, since any
talk at all about the threat posed by Muslim immigration or about
preserving our own culture is being dismissed as "the same rhetoric as
the Nazis used against the Jews." Europeans have been taught to be so
scared of our own shadows that we are incapable of seeing that
darkness can come from the outside, too. Maybe Europe will burn again,
in part as a belated reaction to the horrors of Auschwitz.

--
"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world."
- Winston Churchill on Islam

"Islam is now the number one enemy not only of Europe, but of the
entire free world.. it is an illusion to think that a moderate Islam
exists in Europe." - Filip Dewinter, leader of Belgium's most popular
political party.

"The notion of multiculturalism has fallen apart .."
- Angela Merkel, German Chancellor

http://tinyurl.com/7rkw9

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 3:50 am
From: Mitch

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:18:22 -0600, N A H <N A H @none.edu> wrote:

>http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/938
>
>Swedish Welfare State Collapses as Immigrants Wage War
>
>The Brussels Journal
>
>Tue, 2006-03-28 21:49
>
> Muslim Immigrant Criminal:
>
> "Power for me means that the Swedes shall look
> at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet."
>
>Last year I wrote an article about how Swedish society is
>disintegrating and is in danger of collapsing, at least in certain
>areas and regions. The country that gave us Bergman, ABBA and Volvo
>could become known as the Bosnia of northern Europe. The "Swedish
>model" would no longer refer to a stable and peaceful state with an
>advanced economy, but to a Eurabian horror story of utopian
>multiculturalism, socialist mismanagement and runaway immigration.
>Some thought I was exaggerating, and that talk of the possibility of a
>future civil war in Sweden was pure paranoia. Was it?
>
>In a new sociological survey (pdf in Swedish, with brief English
>introduction) entitled "Vi krigar mot svenskarna" ("We’re waging a war
>against the Swedes"), young immigrants in the troubled city of Malmö
>have been interviewed about why they are involved in crime. Although
>it is not stated, most of the immigrant perpetrators are Muslims. In
>one of the rare instances where the Swedish media actually revealed
>the truth, the newspaper Aftonbladet reported several years ago that 9
>out of 10 of the most criminal ethnic groups in Sweden came from
>Muslim countries. This must be borne in mind whilst reading the
>following newspaper article:
>
>Immigrants are "waging war" against Swedes through robbery
>
>The wave of robberies the city of Malmö has witnessed during this past
>year is part of a "war against the Swedes." This is the explanation
>given by young robbers from immigrant backgrounds when questioned
>about why they only rob native Swedes, in interviews with Petra
>Åkesson for her thesis in sociology. "I read a report about young
>robbers in Stockholm and Malmö and wanted to know why they rob other
>youths. It usually does not involve a lot of money," she says. She
>interviewed boys between 15 and 17 years old, both individually and in
>groups.
>
>Almost 90% of all robberies reported to the police were committed by
>gangs, not individuals. "When we are in the city and robbing we are
>waging a war, waging a war against the Swedes." This argument was
>repeated several times. "Power for me means that the Swedes shall look
>at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet." The boys explain,
>laughingly, that "there is a thrilling sensation in your body when
>you’re robbing, you feel satisfied and happy, it feels as if you’ve
>succeeded, it simply feels good." "It’s so easy to rob Swedes, so
>easy." "We rob every single day, as often as we want to, whenever we
>want to." The immigrant youth regard the Swedes as stupid and
>cowardly: "The Swedes don’t do anything, they just give us the stuff.
>They’re so wimpy." The young robbers do not plan their crimes: "No, we
>just see some Swedes that look rich or have nice mobile phones and
>then we rob them."
>
>Why do they hate the Swedes so much? "Well, they hate us," Petra
>Åkesson reports them as answering. "When a Swede goes shopping, the
>lady behind the counter gives him the money back into his hand, looks
>into his eyes and laughs. When we go shopping, she puts the money on
>the counter and looks the other way." Åkesson, who is adopted from Sri
>Lanka and hence does not look like a native Swede, says it was not
>difficult to get the boys to talk about their crimes. Rather they were
>bragging about who had committed the most robberies. Malin Åkerström,a
>professor in sociology, sees only one solution to the problem: "Jobs
>for everybody. If this entails a deregulation of the labor market to
>create more jobs, then we should do so."
>
>It is interesting to note that these Muslim immigrants state quite
>openly that they are involved in a "war," and see participation in
>crime and harassment of the native population as such. This is
>completely in line with what I have posited before. The number of rape
>charges in Sweden has quadrupled in just above twenty years. Rape
>cases involving children under the age of 15 are six times as common
>today as they were a generation ago. Most other kinds of violent crime
>have rapidly increased, too. Instability is spreading to most urban
>and suburban areas. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and
>Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects. Lawyer Ann Christine
>Hjelm found that 85 per cent of the convicted rapists were born on
>foreign soil or from foreign parents. The phenomenon is not restricted
>to Sweden. The number of rapes committed by Muslim immigrants in
>Western nations is so extremely high that it is difficult to view
>these rapes as merely random acts of individuals. It resembles
>warfare. This is happening in most Western European countries, as well
>as in other non muslim countries such as India. European jails are
>filling up with Muslims imprisoned for robberies and all kinds of
>violent crimes, and Muslims bomb European civilians. One can see the
>mainstream media are struggling to make sense of all of this. That is
>because they cannot, or do not want to, see the obvious: this is
>exactly how an invading army would behave: rape, pillage and bombing.
>If many of the Muslim immigrants see themselves as conquerors in a
>war, it all makes perfect sense.
>
>Malmö in Sweden, set to become the first Scandinavian city with a
>Muslim majority within a decade or two, has nine times as many
>reported robberies per capita as Copenhagen, Denmark. Yet the number
>one priority for the political class in Sweden during this year’s
>national election campaign seems to be demonizing neighboring Denmark
>for "xenophobia" and a "brutal" debate about Muslim immigration.
>During last years Jihad riots in France, Sweden’s Social Democratic
>Prime Minister Göran Persson criticised the way the French government
>handled the unrest in the country. "It feels like a very hard and
>confrontational approach." Persson also rejected the idea of more
>local police as a "first step" in Sweden. "I don’t believe that’s the
>way we would choose in Sweden. To start sending out signals about
>strengthening the police is to break with the political line we have
>chosen to follow," he said. Meanwhile, as their authorities have
>largely abandoned their third largest city to creeping anarchy, there
>is open talk among the native Swedes still remaining in Malmö of
>forming vigilante groups armed with baseball bats out of concern for
>their children’s safety. As I argued in another essay: If Arnold
>Schwarzenegger fails to get re-elected as Governor of California he
>may like to do a sequel to "Conan the Barbarian." He could shoot it in
>Malmö. He will get the extras for free.
>
>What happened to the famous Swedish nanny state, you say? Don’t Swedes
>pay the highest tax rates in the world? Yes, they do. But tens of
>billions of kroner, some say several hundred billions, are being spent
>every year on propping up rapidly growing communities of Muslim
>immigrants. Sweden has become the entire world’s welfare office,
>because the political elites have decided that massive Muslim
>immigration is "good for the economy." Soon Sweden’s "army" may
>comprise no more than 5,000 men, five thousand troops to defend a
>nation more than three times the area of England. Moreover, it may
>take up to a year to assemble all of them, provided they are not on
>peacekeeping missions abroad. That Sweden might soon need a little
>peacekeeping at home seems to escape the establishment. In 2006 the
>celebrated Swedish welfare state has become the world’s largest
>pyramid scheme, an Enron with a national flag.
>
>
>Although Sweden is an extreme example, similar stories could be told
>about much of Western Europe. As Mark Steyn points out, the Jihad in
>the streets of France looked like the early skirmishes of an impending
>Eurabian civil war, brought on by massive Muslim immigration and
>Multicultural stupidity. Law and order is slowly breaking down in
>major and even minor cities across the European continent, and the
>streets are ruled by aggressive gangs of Muslim youngsters. At the
>same time, Europeans are paying some of the highest taxes in the
>world. We should remind our authorities that the most important task
>of the state – some would even claim it should be the only task of the
>state – is to uphold the rule of law in exchange for taxation. Since
>it is becoming pretty obvious that this is no longer the case in
>Eurabia, we should question whether these taxes are still legitimate,
>or whether they are simply disguised Jizya paid in the form of welfare
>to Muslims and our new Eurocrat aristocracy. Although not exactly the
>Boston Tea Party, perhaps the time has now come for a pan-European tax
>rebellion: We will no longer pay taxes until our authorities restore
>law and order and close the borders to Muslim immigration.
>
>This is urgent. When enough people feel that the system is no longer
>working and that the social contract has been breached, the entire
>fabric of democratic society could unravel. What happens when the
>welfare state system breaks down, and there is no longer enough money
>to "grease" the increasing tensions between immigrants and native
>Europeans? And what happens when people discover that their own
>leaders, through the EU networks and the Euro-Arab Dialogue described
>by Bat Ye’or in her book "Eurabia," have been encouraging all these
>Muslims to settle here in the first place? There will be massive
>unemployment, and tens of millions of people will feel angry, scared
>and humiliated, betrayed by the system, by society and by their own
>democratic leaders. This is a situation in some ways similar to the
>Great Depression that led to the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s. Is
>this where we are heading once again, with fear, rising Fascism and
>political assassinations? The difference is that the "Jewish threat"
>in the 1930s was entirely fictional, whereas the "Islamic threat" now
>is very real. However, it is precisely the trauma caused by the events
>of 70 years ago that is clouding our judgement this time, since any
>talk at all about the threat posed by Muslim immigration or about
>preserving our own culture is being dismissed as "the same rhetoric as
>the Nazis used against the Jews." Europeans have been taught to be so
>scared of our own shadows that we are incapable of seeing that
>darkness can come from the outside, too. Maybe Europe will burn again,
>in part as a belated reaction to the horrors of Auschwitz.
>
>--
>"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world."
>- Winston Churchill on Islam
>
>"Islam is now the number one enemy not only of Europe, but of the
>entire free world.. it is an illusion to think that a moderate Islam
>exists in Europe." - Filip Dewinter, leader of Belgium's most popular
>political party.
>
>"The notion of multiculturalism has fallen apart .."
>- Angela Merkel, German Chancellor
>
>http://tinyurl.com/7rkw9

Screw this, what's the latest with Natalie Holloway?

Geesh, I can't take it anymore. We're at war with worldwide
Islamofascists, millions of illegal aliens are openly telling us this
is Mexico, and Congress and Bush say, yeah, Islam is a religion of
peace and America is a nation of immigrants, so whatever.

Man, I am so pleased to learn that Aruban officials will conduct a new
search for Natalie Holloway tomorrow. Whew.

"Mohammed can suck my big purple cock" -Reginold

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Israel Shuns Victory
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c80895d77a04d422
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 9:00 pm
From: Topaz

Tiptoeing around Our Problems
By Dr. William Pierce

"We've been talking about the very dangerous situation in the Middle
East recently, just because so much is happening there, and
undoubtedly we'll be talking about it much more in the future. For
that reason I want to make very clear what my motives and sympathies
are, lest I lead anyone astray and be thought a hypocrite for doing
so. First, regarding Palestine: although my sympathies definitely lie
with the Palestinians rather than with the Jews, it is not horror at
what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians that motivates me. What
motivates me is horror that my country is being used by the Jews in
their war against the Palestinians. If America were not involved at
all in the Middle East I still would sympathize with the Palestinians
and I would wish that they could be successful in driving the Jews
into the sea and annihilating the abomination that is Israel, but that
conflict between Jews and Palestinians would not be a major concern
for me. At least, my
concern there would be dwarfed by my concern for problems more
directly involving my own people in America and in Europe and in
southern Africa.

Even now, with money and weapons being supplied by America and used to
slaughter Palestinians, my concern is much less with monsters like
Ariel Sharon who are doing the slaughtering than it is with the filthy
creatures among my own people in America who are collaborating with
Jews here to keep the weapons and money flowing to Sharon -- and are
ready to do whatever else the Jews require of them here or abroad.

So when I tell you about Jews in occupied Palestine shooting
Palestinian children, and disapproval and anger are evident in my
voice, what I really am angry about is that the American people, my
people, are being used for this murderous activity. I am angry that
America's whole foreign policy has been perverted to serve Jewish
interests at the expense of American interests. I am angry that
America's political system has been perverted to ensure that we always
have so-called "leaders," whether Democrat or Republican, who are
dependent on the Jewish media or Jewish money or both for their
election and consequently will do the bidding of the Jews. I am angry
that our whole government is riddled with Jews -- Jews in our Defense
Department, Jews in our State
Department, Jews in our Immigration and Naturalization Service, Jews
in our Justice Department, Jews in the President's speech-writing
staff - who really set the policies of our government behind the
scenes, while the politicians are out front in the spotlight making
speeches and kissing babies - and doing as they're told by the Jews
behind the
scenes.

Did you know that it was a Jewish speechwriter, David Frum, who put
the phrase "axis of evil" in George Bush's mouth to justify America's
ongoing war against Israel's enemies? Did you know that a clique of
Jews in the Defense Department and among George Bush's foreign policy
advisers are the people actually running the so-called "war on terror"
in Afghanistan: a war that they intend to expand to Iraq and any other
Middle Eastern country that gets uppity, in order to make that part of
the world safe for Israel at American expense? Secretary of Defense
Donald Rumsfeld is a front man for his nominal subordinates, Deputy
Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Deputy Undersecretary of
Defense for Policy Douglas Feith; and George Bush's official foreign
policy adviser, Condoleezza Rice, helps him meet his Black quota for
the Cabinet, but it is the Jew Richard Perle, chairman of Bush's
Defense Policy Board, who gives him his foreign policy directives.

As I've said on more than one occasion, George Bush is a feckless
nincompoop who couldn't come up with a defense policy or a foreign
policy on his own if he had to -- which is why he's President. The
real policymakers behind the scenes certainly don't want a man in the
White House who has ideas of his own, because those ideas might
conflict with theirs.

And it is nothing but empty sophistry to make a distinction between
Jews in Israel, such as Ariel Sharon and Simon Peres, and the Jews in
Mr. Bush's administration formulating his policies or the Jews
controlling our mass media. They all are Jews, and that's what really
matters.

There are many knowledgeable Americans besides me who think that it's
not a good thing to have Jews using America to advance Israel's
interests at the expense of America's interests. They know how the
system works: how the Jews exert their control through money and media
and a well-entrenched network of Jewish operatives, such as Wolfowitz
and Feith and Perle. And many of these knowledgeable Americans also
understand how Jewish subterfuge and deceit work: they understand that
the Jews throw up a lot of smoke to conceal their control and make it
appear that they have much less influence than they actually do.

Despite this degree of understanding that many knowledgeable Americans
have, there seem to be very few who are willing or able to draw the
necessary conclusions. What I keep seeing are comments about the need
to get the so-called "peace process" going again in the Middle East,
and how there are hardline supporters of Israel who are obstructing
the "peace process" because they think that it will give too much to
the Palestinians or will compromise Israel's security, or whatever.
These knowledgeable Americans seem to believe that if we could just
get around the Jewish hardliners somehow -- if we could just
neutralize Jews such as Wolfowitz and Feith and Perle; if Ariel Sharon
could be replaced by a "moderate" Jewish prime minister -- then the
"peace process" could proceed, America could gradually reduce its
involvement in helping the Jews keep the Palestinians repressed, and
eventually Israel no longer would be using America, and everything
would be rosy. And so these knowledgeable Americans expend all of
their wit and energy in these trivial pursuits.

Listen! Do you know what the most hopeful aspect of the conflict
between Jews and Palestinians is now? It is the ongoing radicalization
of the Muslim masses throughout the whole Middle East. The
collaborator governments in Pakistan, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia are
terrified of the reaction they see among their own people to what
Ariel Sharon is doing to the Palestinians. When Sharon's Jewish troops
shoot Palestinian children, Muslim mobs riot, and governments that now
collaborate with the United States quake. Ariel Sharon is the best
thing that has happened in the Middle East in the last 54 years.

The Palestinian tactic of suicide bombing is being denounced by every
politician and every media spokesman over here now. It's nothing but
terrorism, they all say. There's no justification at all for suicide
bombing, they tell us. Of course, whenever you hear that sort of
unanimity from the politicians and the media people you should be
suspicious. In fact, suicide bombing is the best tactic for the
Palestinians to use now, because it provokes the Jews to step up
reprisals. And the reprisals radicalize the masses in every country in
the Middle East. If just one of the collaborator governments falls,
the spines of all the rest will be stiffened, and the Bush government
will be far less likely to find collaborators for building its
so-called "coalition" to do the will of the Jews in the Middle East.

Suicide bombers now hardly put a dent in the population of five
million Jews in occupied Palestine, and Sharon's bloody reprisals
hardly put a dent in the overall Palestinian population. But if
conflict of this sort continues until just one collaborator government
is overthrown, that ultimately will be worth more than ten thousand
successful suicide
bombings in which only 20 or so Jews are killed each time. In the long
run there can be no real peace in the Middle East and no end to
America's shameful role there -- and no future for the Palestinian
people -- as long as there is an Israel. There seems to be a better
understanding of these things among knowledgeable Palestinians than
among knowledgeable Americans.

Shallow thinking and the pursuit of trivial goals is even worse among
knowledgeable Americans when it comes to domestic problems. They
really do not want to grasp these problems with both hands and deal
with them in a forthright way. Look, for example, at what uncontrolled
immigration has done and is doing to America. And what do
knowledgeable Americans propose to do about that? Very little, really.
They make much of the fact that several of the al-Qaeda hijackers who
carried out the September 11 attack were in the United States only
because of very lax immigration policies, and so that's a good reason
for tightening up the policies.

How about simply rounding up all illegal aliens immediately -- all 12
million of them -- and booting them and all of their offspring out of
the country without further ado?

Oh, no, no, no! We can't do that! Why not? Well, the media never would
stand for it. The media would be all over anyone who even proposed a
mass expulsion of illegal aliens. They would denounce any political
leader who tried to do that as a "racist" and a "neo-Nazi." And so
knowledgeable Americans, who understand the immigration disaster quite
well, continue tiptoeing around it, afraid to do or even say anything
really significant about it: terrified even to think about really
radical solutions that might actually end the problem. And it's the
same with the rest of our domestic problems. Lots of people understand
these problems and are worried about them, but they won't tackle them
in any
significant way. They let the Jews -- the Jewish media and Jewish
money and the entrenched Jewish network -- have their way, for all
practical purposes.

Why? Why are the Jews permitted to get away with all of their
destructive policies and activities without being challenged or
opposed in any significant way? Part of the reason is that the Jews
are very powerful, and therefore many people are afraid to cross them.
They're afraid of the sort of media reaction I just mentioned in
connection with immigration. Everyone understands that the Jews stick
together and will viciously attack anyone who opposes them. It's the
old story, so aptly expressed by the late-16th-century writer, Sir
John Harington. Harington wrote: "Treason doth never prosper: what's
the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Today the
Jewish power structure is
prospering, and none dare oppose it or even call it what it is. Well,
that's only part of the reason Jews are permitted to get away with so
much. There's more to it than that. There's a mystique the Jews have
built very carefully around themselves and nurtured diligently. It is
a mystique of piety and injured innocence. It is a mystique that says
to the Gentile world: "We are a gentle and inoffensive race, and
because of this everyone hates us. We're smart and we work hard and
achieve success, and because of this everyone hates us. We are a
highly moral and ethical race, and because of this everyone hates us.
We are a very talented race, with many gifted members, many geniuses,
and because of this everyone hates us. We are a very altruistic race,
a race of philanthropists who only want to make a better world for
everyone, and because of this everyone hates us."

Many simpletons among the lemmings simply accept these claims at face
value. Many knowledgeable people, however, who can see through these
claims to the real Jews hiding behind them, still hesitate to
challenge them. Part of the Jewish mystique is the so-called
"Holocaust." In its most simpleminded form the "Holocaust" story is
the claim that the
Germans hated the Jews for the reasons I just mentioned -- for their
gentleness and their success and their morality and their talent and
their altruism -- and because of this hatred roasted six million of
them during the Second World War in "gas ovens," to use one of the
Jews' favorite "Holocaust" phrases.

Actually, the "Holocaust" is a very powerful part of the Jewish
mystique. The Jews crafted the "Holocaust" story with great care and
great effort -- well, actually not with as much care as they might
have used: it's as full of holes as a Swiss cheese, but still it is
sufficient to make most people, even those who understand what Jews
are really like, hesitate to attack them. People don't want to be seen
as bullies. They don't want to be seen as so insensitive that they
would criticize the Jews, who already have suffered so much, poor
dears, at the hands of anti-Semites.

In several past broadcasts we've looked at a number of the lies and
exaggerations and distortions that make up the "Holocaust" story.
There are a number of good books available on the subject from the
sponsor of this broadcast, National Vanguard Books, including Norman
Finklestein's excellent book The Holocaust Industry, which I discussed
in an earlier broadcast. The point is that despite the lies, despite
the fact that many knowledgeable Americans are aware of the lies, the
"Holocaust" still serves its purpose for the Jews. People are afraid
of the image conjured up by the "Holocaust."

Perhaps it's that American life is too soft... Whatever the reason,
many otherwise knowledgeable and hardheaded Americans just can't
entertain the idea of rounding up the Jews and getting rid of them,
even when the situation is as urgent as it is in America today. And
really, in the long run that is the only way to solve the Jewish
problem.

The Germans understood that, back in the 1930s, and they had the
courage and the foresight to act on their understanding. Unlike
Americans today, they had an honest government concerned above all
with the survival, welfare, and progress of the German people, and
they began doing what was necessary, forcing the Jews to emigrate
wholesale from Germany beginning in 1933. And because of that the
Jewish propaganda machine has attacked the Germans so viciously, has
so blackened and demonized their image, that today even knowledgeable
people are afraid to be associated with that image. They are afraid to
say that the Germans were right, that the Germans were justified, and
that we need to do the same if we are to survive. So, as I said, the
"Holocaust" story, despite its
glaring discrepancies and lies, still serves as a shield for the Jews;
it still protects them from criticism.

Well, mostly. In parts of Europe not quite as poisoned by Jewish
propaganda as America is, the shield has slipped a bit. A large
British department store chain, Selfridges, has yielded to demands
from anti-Israel demonstrators and has removed from its shelves
products marked "Made in Israel." Last week the second largest
supermarket chain in Norway, Coop Norge -- which is to say, Norway
Coop, announced its decision to boycott all Israeli imports. That
decision was not the result of pressure from anti-Israel demonstrators
but was based on the feeling by Coop Norge management that it would be
immoral to continue supporting the Israeli economy by selling Israeli
imports under the
present circumstances. That is a step forward, though it is a long way
from what is needed.

The Jews, of course, immediately began waving their "Holocaust" story
around, and now, as the boycott movement catches hold in Scandinavia,
they are trying to portray themselves as injured innocents being
attacked once more by "anti-Semites." They are comparing the growing
Scandinavian boycott of Israeli products to the German boycott of
Jewish merchants in the late 1930s. Certainly, a boycott of Israeli
products is a good thing, and the fact that such a boycott is even
thinkable by big businessmen today is a sign that the Jewish mystique
-- and in particular the Jewish "Holocaust" story -- is becoming a bit
shopworn. It no longer has the hypnotic power that it once had -- at
least, in some parts of the world. And I suppose that we should be
happy about that. The unfortunate fact remains, however, that in
America the Jews still have their money and
their media and their entrenched network of bureaucrats, and even if
the "Holocaust" story has lost some of its charm in Europe, it still
keeps most knowledgeable Americans intimidated.

Knowledge isn't enough. Courage and boldness also are necessary.
Honesty and forthrightness are necessary also. Tiptoeing around the
critical issues of our time isn't enough. Tiny reforms in our
disastrous foreign policy and in our disastrous immigration policy and
in a dozen other disastrous policies aren't enough. We need to stop
apologizing to the people who are destroying us and go full bore at
destroying them instead.

Instead of being hypnotized by the "Holocaust" story we need to look
with clear eyes at why there was a need for action against the Jews in
Germany in the 1930s and 1940s. The Jews' claim today that the Germans
were suffering from collective insanity and had no reason for trying
to get the Jews off their backs is as phony as George Bush's claim
that
Osama bin Laden had no reason for attacking America on September 11.

Wherever Jews go they corrupt and destroy. That is their nature,
always and everywhere. Let us be thankful to the Palestinians who now
are making such terrible sacrifices to help the world see what the
Jews are like. And I suppose we also should be thankful to Ariel
Sharon for demonstrating so forthrightly to the world what Jews are
like.

Let us hope that the conflict between Jews and Palestinians
intensifies and lasts long enough to wake up many more of our people
around the world and fill them with disgust at America's continuing
support for the Jews. Let us hope that it lasts long enough to bring
about the overthrow of every collaborationist regime in the Muslim
world. Let us hope that it brings about an airtight oil embargo
against the United States and shuts off the lights in every shopping
mall and every sports stadium in America long enough for the lemmings
to become restless and begin asking questions. Let us hope that it
makes the efforts of every fool and every traitor who is striving for
a resumption of the so-called "peace process" so obviously futile that
these efforts no longer have the power to deceive anyone.

Ultimately, of course, we must not depend on the Palestinian suicide
bombers or on Ariel Sharon's murder squads to do for us what we should
be doing for ourselves. Ultimately we must stop tiptoeing and begin
marching boldly and forthrightly toward solving our own problems."

Thanks for being with me again today.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 5:28 am
From: "J.Venning"

"Dr. bitter anko" <kaz762@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1143572778.807164.102070@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>Surely you only learned the distorted history written by the Chinese or
>Whites. Japan tried to get along with Chinese, but the Chinese refused
>it. That's why the war between two nations began. The Chinese think
>they are the No1 of the world and they look down on the japs so they
>didn't want to get along with Japan equally. It's the notorious Chinese
>ethnocentrism and nationalism.
>
Surely this is a clear indication that you never even learned history.
J.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 7:39 pm
From: "Dave Simpson"

Not a bad piece of work, Ronda. Just be aware that even the liberal
media realizes that the glory days of the Big Three and the UAW are
long gone, with more pain than need be suffered because of the denial
for so long. Also, the people being let go are lucky to get anything,
which is not the case in the real world, and it really is still
Christmas-like for now with the UAW people even though everyone looks
at GM or Miller as Scrooge.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 7:40 pm
From: "The Last 2458 days™ ♥"

http://pacer.utm.edu/3034.htm

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Pacer Online Edition
Volume 78, Issue 23
2006-03-28
Americans forced to go to Middle East if US reinstates draft
Casey McCasland Guest Columnist

Many people of this great nation and abroad have said that the War on
Terrorism, in retaliation to the September 11 attacks, may become known
by future generations as the third of the world wars due to its global
impact and the number of countries involved.

However, others argue that it is highly unlikely that the current
military conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan will escalate to the point
that the US would be engaged militarily with at least one other major
military alliance, such as Russia or China if they so become allied
with Iran.

Either way it is good to note that until Sept. 11 from the creation of
NATO that they have had to enact their war articles. As of present the
major media outlets have not taken to referring to the conflict as
World War III but seem to be getting close.

With every poll showing majorities of Americans both fed up with
Bush’s war against Iraq and convinced that Bush’s invasion of Iraq
has made Americans less safe, the President in a recent report in
Newsweek said that along with VP Cheney has already ordered the U.S.
Strategic Command come up with plans to strike Iran with tactical
nuclear weapons.

Also, it was reported in the “Jerusalem Post” before Israeli Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon fell ill that he had set a deadline of March,
31st to attack Iran.

If Iran retaliates against Israel or the US in Iraq, then both nations
will proceed with a plan that is already in place to destroy all of
Iran’s biological, chemical and conventional weapons sites. In fact,
this is the ultimate US strategy anyway; not the elimination of the
“imaginary” nuclear weapons facilities.

Both the US and Israel want to “de-fang” the Mullah-regime so that
they can control critical resources and eliminate the possibility of a
regional rival in the future.

In the short term, however, the plan is filled with difficulties. At
present, there is no wiggle room in the world’s oil supply for
massive losses and gas prices will reach an all time because of this.

If the administration’s war on Iran goes forward we will see a shock
to the world’s oil supplies and economies that could be catastrophic.

That being the case, a report that was leaked last week that Dick
Cheney had strategic command draw up “contingency plans for a
tactical nuclear war against Iran”. It makes no difference. If Iran
is attacked they will retaliate; that much is certain. It’s only a
matter of time.

You say, how does this affect the students here at UTM? We are at war
with Iraq & Afghanistan, thousands of soldiers have been deployed since
the winter of 2001, thousands have been sent to Iraq since 2003, and
not to mention that the Military enlistment is at a low. What does this
mean?

When we do go to war with Iran, where are we going to get troops if not
enough people volunteer? More than likely the draft will be reinstated
and most of us will have to go and defend the nation.

Remember, this time it’s not only male’s who will be called upon.

I would gladly defend my nation in this case. In a report done in the
“Washington Post” an interviewer asked a white house official of
the likelihood of the draft being reinstated, the official simply said
“It has not been totally ruled out”. It is a good idea for everyone
to keep up on this even though recently things have been on the silent
side.

As I stated in an earlier article, remember it may be you soon on the
battlefield.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 3:42 am
From: laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE

But if you're a speeder or DUI and kill or paralyze a kid for life,
the criminal coddlers in S.C. will still let you off with a fine.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1779420

By SEANNA ADCOX

COLUMBIA, S.C. Mar 28, 2006 (AP)— The state Senate on Tuesday endorsed
making repeat child rapists eligible for the death penalty, setting
aside arguments the move might be unconstitutional.

"What we've got to do today is vote our conviction," said Republican
Sen. Larry Martin.

The proposal allows prosecutors to seek the death penalty for sex
offenders who are convicted twice of raping a child younger than 11.

Currently in South Carolina, murder is the only crime eligible for the
death penalty.

The proposal was approved as part of a larger bill that sets minimum
sentences and lifetime electronic monitoring for some sex offenders.
The bill requires a third reading before moving to the House.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in a 1977 Georgia case involving an adult
victim that sentencing someone to death for rape was unconstitutional.

A Louisiana law lets prosecutors seek the death penalty for rapists of
children younger than 12, and the Louisiana Supreme Court found it
constitutional because the U.S. Supreme Court ruling did not address
the rape of a child.

The U.S. Supreme Court declined to review the statute

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 7:58 pm
From: "Aunt Judy likes it in the rear"

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
> But if you're a speeder or DUI and kill or paralyze a kid for life,
> the criminal coddlers in S.C. will still let you off with a fine.

That's because they know that some kid's parents just won't teach 'em
not to play in the road.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 3:43 am
From: Four-Way Windowpane

welovethemearnhardts@yahoo.com wrote...
> It is time for there to be affirmative action in all college and
> professional sports!
>
> If affirmative action (referred to as AA from here on in on this tome)
> is so good then why is it not exercised in the same respect in college
> and professional sports? That would seem to be discrimination against
> whites in basketball, football and baseball and discrimination against
> blacks in hockey, soccer and volleyball.
>
> What is good for the goose is good for the gander. The demographic
> makeups of the college and professional sports should reflect the
> demographic makeup of that locality...

Excellent point, but you already know it will never happen. Years from
now you will still be hearing statistics about how blacks are under-
represented in various occupations, and sports teams will still be 99%
black.

Also consider the dearth of latinos in professional sports. There are
a handful in baseball, almost all of black Carribean descent, but you
NEVER see any Mexicans or South Americans. I've even mentioned this
before on newsgroups, how EVERY football and basketball team I've ever
seen consists of blacks and whites, and mostly blacks. The same with
the sportscasters, they are ALWAYS black or white and often a pair of
one black and one white. Once again, no Mexicans even though they
make up a larger percentage of the U.S. population than blacks. And I
used to live in Laredo, Texas, a city with a 95% Mexican population,
and the local news sportscaster was black.

My theory is that sports are a form of social engineering. Since blacks
aren't really good at much, the powers that be created football and
basketball to give them something they could excel in, then hyped those
sports beyond all ridiculousness in order to turn black athletes into
role models for whites.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 7:53 pm
From: "Moshe the Kosher Honey-baked ham loving Pig™"

Around April 4th/April 5th, 2006

Due to an outbreak of war in the Middle East

HOOROO

UNCLE WALLY

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 29 2006 11:54 am
From: "Dave Turner" <1@2.3>

fucken idiot.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 7:59 pm
From: "Miguel"

Seneca wrote:
> Mira cubiche pendejo, tengo un puente en San Diego que te vendo por $3.
>
>
> Si tu crees esta meirda eres muchisimo mas vruuuuto de lo que creia.
>
> Has comido tanta mierda que ahora tus escasas neuronas se han convertido
> en mierdona.

Senecon o senequita,

Eres tan infame que dijistes que el exilio de Miami bailo en las calles
cuando se cometio ese vil asesinato hace 30 a~nos. El exilio dijo en
aquel entonces lo que digo yo:

Si el que puso la bomba al avion de cubana con 73 atletas fue alguien
del exilio, hay calificar ese hecho como UNA MASACRE CRIMINAL SIN
JUSTIFICACION. Si lo hizo el tirano Castrio la respuesta es la misma:
UNA MASACRE CRIMINAL SIN JUSTIFICACION.

Ninguna organizacion del exilio se responsabilizo por ese hecho
insolito y criminal HAGALO QUIEN LO HAGA!

Por que tu no haces lo mismo? Por que no condenas el crimen de cuatro
cubanos que murieron asesinados por ordenes de Fidel Castro cuando sus
avionetas desarmadas fueron atacados por aviones de guerra MIGS rusos?

http://www.hermanos.org/

Por que no condenas el asesinato cometido por la dictadura castrista
con el Remolcador 13 de marzo donde murieron treinta y siete cubanos
incluyendo a diez ni~nos menores de 12 a~nos? Mirale las caras de esos
ni~nos, lee sus nombres infame esbirro del tirano. Ese es el sistema
que tu y los tuyos apoyan.

1- Hellen Martínez Enríquez 5 meses
2- Xicdy Rodríguez Fernández . 2 años
3- Angel René Abreu Ruiz . 3 años
4- José Carlos Nicle Anaya . . 3 años
5- Giselle Borges Alvarez . . 4 años
6- Caridad Leyva Tacoronte . 5 años
7- Juan Mario Gutiérrez García . 10 años
8- Yasser Perodín Almanza . 11 años
9- Yousell Eugenio Pérez Tacoronte . 11 años
10- Eliecer Suárez Plasencia .12 años

http://www.cubaliberal.org/encuba/21072005-Represion_a_Familiares_de_victimas_Remolcador_13_de_Marzo.asp

Ambos hechos fueron condenados por la ONU. Por que tu y los otros
esbirros de la tirania, no lo condenan?

Por que no te conmueves ante el dolor y el sufrimiento del pueblo de
Cuba bajo ese tirano que lleva desgobernando a mi patria desde hace 47
a~nos?

Eres un perfecto infame. Y todo por envidia al exilio cubano y por odio
a los EEUU.

>
>
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:35:48 -0800, Miguel <michaelgayoso1948@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Seneca wrote:
> >> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:34:46 -0800, Miguel <michaelgayoso1948@msn.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Mentiroso. El exilio entero condeno el asesinato de inocentes
> >> atletas..
> >> > Lo mas probable es que fue el propio gobierno cubano el que mando a
> >> > poner la bomba a ese avion para echarle el muerto al exilio cubano.
> >>
> >> Asi que tu tambien crees que los yanquis bombardearon las torres
> >> gemelas?
> >> Que mamarracho eres gusano. Ustedes bailaron en las calles cuando
> >> mataron
> >> al equipo de esgrima, decian "menos comunistas"! Asesinos y
> >> terroristas!!!!
> >
> > Infame y mentiroso. Quieres conocer las otras versiones?
> >
> > OTRA VERSION DEL AVION DE BARBADOS
> >
> > Por Enrique Encinosa
> >
> > Ningún acontecimiento entre los que se implica al exilio ha generado
> > más controversia que el derribo de un avión comercial cubano en
> > Barbados, que mató a setenta y tres personas el 6 de octubre de l976.
> >
> > Autores y responsables
> >
> > El régimen castrista utiliza el trágico incidente como bandera para
> > acusar al exilio y defenderse de acusaciones de violaciones
> > sistemáticas de derechos humanos, argumentando que la represión
> > ejercida es como protección al "terrorismo de la Mafia de Miami." En
> > todas las versiones castristas faltan algunos detalles que pueden
> > esclarecer quiénes fueron los autores del atentado dinamitero.
> >
> > Las figuras siempre acusadas por el régimen castrista de perpetrar el
> > ataque incluyen al Dr. Orlando Bosch y a Luis Posada Carriles; aunque
> > ambos se proclamaron inocentes, permanecieron encarcelados en Venezuela
> > por años, logrando ser exonerados en tribunales civil y militar. Si un
> > hombre es considerado inocente hasta ser probado culpable, entonces
> > Bosch y Carriles son inocentes, pese a lo que alegue la propaganda
> > castrista.
> >
> > Existen tres escenarios de especulación sobre el atentado.
> > El primero -la línea oficial del régimen- alega que fue un acto
> > terrorista del exilio. La segunda posición -factores del
> > exilio-reclaman que el atentado fue una operación de la DGI castrista
> > para neutralizar a líderes de la lucha armada contra el régimen. Un
> > tercer escenario implica a miembros de la inteligencia venezolana en la
> > planificación del ataque.
> >
> > El testimonio más interesante en las teorías de conspiración
> > proviene de Osmeiro Carneiro, oficial de la inteligencia militar
> > venezolana, quien acusó a Orlando García, jefe anterior de la
> > seguridad presidencial y Lázaro Rogelio Ugarte, oficial de policía,
> > de la planificación del bombardeo.
> > Carneiro declaró -el 15 de julio de 1991 según El Nuevo Herald- que
> > Bosch y Posada Carriles eran inocentes, pero eran utilizados como
> > "chivos expiatorios" por García y Ugarte.
> > Otro testimonio que vincula a la inteligencia venezolana y al régimen
> > castrista con el ataque al avión de Barbados proviene del testimonio
> > -en tribunales de la Florida -de Ricardo "El Mono" Morales Navarrete,
> > ex agente de la CIA, informante federal y ex supervisor de la DISIP -el
> > Servicio Secreto venezolano- donde dirigió la Sección 54 del
> > Contraespionaje.
> >
> > Morales fue asignado a un cargo supervisor a pesar de no ser ciudadano
> > venezolano, un requisito en DISIP, mas le fue otorgada la ciudadanía
> > en sólo tres meses por pedido ministerial, a pesar de las regulaciones
> > legales que requirieron por lo menos dos residencia de años en
> > Venezuela antes de solicitar la ciudadanía.
> >
> > Según el testimonio bajo juramento de Morales Navarrete, la
> > conspiración se originó en México, adonde Morales Navarrete viajó
> > con pasaporte bajo el nombre Moisés Gutiérrez. En México, Morales
> > Navarrete se reunió con agentes cubanos de la DGI que le
> > proporcionaron $18,000 y resumieron un plan para volar un avión
> > comercial cubano y destruir a Orlando Bosch, quien sería
> > culpado del bombardeo.
> >
> > Morales Navarrete declaró bajo juramento haberse reunido en México y
> > Caracas con dos agentes de DGI, Cuenca Montoto y Eduardo Fuentes. En el
> > octubre 2, de l976, se reunió con Cuenca Montoto y un ejecutivo de
> > Líneas Aéreas de Cubana en el Anauca Hilton. Como director de la
> > Sección 54, Morales dió órdenes a Hernán Ricardo y Freddy Lugo,
> > fotógrafos asociados a Posada Carriles a que abordaran el avión hasta
> > Barbados y tomaran fotos de los
> > diplomáticos a bordo. Después del ataque ambos fotógrafos fueron
> > encarcelados como parte de la supuesta conspiración dirigida por Bosch
> > y Posada Carriles.
> >
> > Irónicamente, Ricardo había estado viajando con un pasaporte falso
> > proporcionado por la DISIP y fue condenado por usar documentos falsos
> > que habían sido elaborados por su propio gobierno.
> >
> > ¿Quién se beneficio del ataque dinamitero al avión de Barbados?
> >
> > Ciertamente no fue el exilio, ya que Bosch y Posada Carriles fueron
> > encarcelados por años y el atentado sirvió para debilitar "la guerra
> > por los caminos del mundo," mientras se propagó el atentado como
> > bandera propagandística del régimen.
> >
> > ¿Quién fue el responsable?
> >
> > Como en el caso de la muerte de Kennedy, abundan las teorías y hay
> > tema para debatir. Yo opino que fue el régimen castrista.
> > ==============================­====.
> > Enrique Encinosa es autor de "Unvanquished," el primer -y unico libro-
> > en ingles que detalla la lucha anti-castrista desde 1959-2004
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > La mayoria de esos atletas, si hubieran tenido la oportunidad, se
> >> > hubieran asilado como lo han hecho cientos durantes los ultimos 47
> >> > a~nos.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ahora que ustedes los asesinaron, nunca lo sabremos verdad carnicero?
> >>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Si tanto odias a los EEUU por que no renuncias a tu ciudadania
> >> >> > norteamericana y te vas a Cuba a ganar $8 al mes?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Porque no soy Cubano, ni tu tampoco, los Cubanos de verdad estan en
> >> >> Cuba o
> >> >> en sus comunidades levantando el estandar de Siboney, honrando su
> >> >> patria y
> >> >> no mancillandola como los terroristas que tu representas.
> >> >
> >> > Entonces Marti no era cubano porque la mayor parte de su vida la paso
> >> > en el exilio.
> >> >
> >> > Nosotros representanmos la libertad, el amor y la reconcilicion
> >> > nacional. Ustedes, representan el sistema totalitario que ha hecho de
> >> > Cuba entera un campo de concentracion.
> >>
> >> Tu lo que representas es una pila de mierda jodio cubiche gusano.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Viste, pendejo que nigun Cubano de verdad deserto . . . . das
> >> >> pena,
> >> >> >> tu
> >> >> >> >> huesos se podriran en un pais extraño porque traicionaste a tu
> >> >> >> patria.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Je Je.Los dos millones de cubanos que nos hemos escapado del
> >> castro
> >> >> >> > fascismo no hemos desertado? Se no olvidaba, esos no son
> >> "cubanos
> >> >> de
> >> >> >> > verdad" segun el filosofon Senecon. Pero Yuliesky si lo es..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Escapado"? Ustedes, que mientras a los pobres Mejicanos cruzan el
> >> >> >> desierto y mueren en su empeno ustedes los reciben con dinero y
> >> los
> >> >> >> brazos
> >> >> >> abiertos. vayase pal carajo gusano asqueroso. Deben sentirse
> >> >> >> avergonzados
> >> >> >> por lo pillo, corruptos y terroristas que son.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Que infame y mentiroso eres, esbirro comunista degenerado y
> >> asqueroso.
> >> >> > Decenas de miles de cubanos han muerto ahogado en el empe~no por
> >> >> > alcanzar la libertad del monstruo que tu apoyas.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Libertad"_ Wue va, buscando el billete como los miles de emigrantes
> >> >> economicos de Latino America. Mira papa, ya nadie se va de Cuba por
> >> >> razone
> >> >> spoliticas, se van por los billetes yanquis, igual que millones de
> >> otros
> >> >> emigrantes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tu causita ya se jodio.
> >> >
> >> > La gran mayoria de los cubanos vinimos a EEUU por razones politicas,
> >> > gustete o no te guste. Ademas, si las cosas estan tan bien en Cuba,
> >> por
> >> > que hay dos millones de exiliados, por que hay cientos de miles
> >> > esperando la salida y por que decenas de miles han muerto ahogados en
> >> > el Estrecho de la Florida?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Das risa. La envidia se te sale por los poros. Tienes que ser uno
> >> de
> >> >> > esos frustrados incompetentes que no ha llegado a nada en la vida,
> >> >> > porque el factor envidia le come las entra~nas.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Que envidia nos tienes!. Te molesta que los cubanos tengamos el
> >> >> > standard de vida mas alto de todo latino en EEUU. Las entradas de
> >> la
> >> >> > segunda generacion de cubanos sobrepasa la de los Anglos. En tu
> >> mente
> >> >> > enferma y corrupta, eso significa que somos... pillos, corruptos y
> >> >> > terroristas..Lo que somos emprendedores, trabajadores,
> >> inteligentes y
> >> >> > dispuestos al sacrificio, algo que frustrados incompetentes como tu
> >> >> > nunca comprenderan.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Mira so animal, sino fuera por los programas yanquis que invirtieron
> >> >> billones de dolares en ustedes, y que vinieron durante la guerra de
> >> la
> >> >> pobreza, les ayudaron a que les certificaran en la profesiones en
> >> >> Florida
> >> >> (mientras que abogado Peruanos o CPA Mexicanos lavan carro en Miami y
> >> >> California), les dieron becas federales, les proveyeron trabajos bien
> >> >> remunerados en la estacion de la CIA en la universidad de Miami,
> >> Radio y
> >> >> Television Marti, les dieron la bienvenida negada a cuanto refugiado
> >> >> viene
> >> >> de Latino America (incluyendo a los rfugiados politicos de las
> >> >> distaduras
> >> >> que en un tiempo apoyaron los yanquis en Haiti, Republica Dominicana,
> >> >> Niacaragua, El Salvador Chile, etc.)
> >> >
> >> > Mira, yegua castrista, nosotros vinimos aqui sin un centavo, lavamos
> >> > platos, trabajamos en la construccion, vendimos periodicos por las
> >> > calles hicimos todo trabajo honesto habido y por haber, pero no nos
> >> > dormimos en los laureles, como hacen otros, y nos pusimos a estudiar
> >> > por la noche, a aprender ingles, a revalidar los titulos y por eso,
> >> > despues de muchos a~nos de lucha y sacrificio tenemos las entradas per
> >> > capita mas altas de todos los latinos. Yo se que frustrados, como tu,
> >> > no lo entienden ni lo entenderan jamas, pero gustete o no te guste:
> >> > CUBANO ES TRIUNFO.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Celo? Que va lastima? Tmapoco! Desprecio y asco es lo que siento por
> >> los
> >> >> gusanos (afortunadamente cada dia ustedes son menos y mas viejo en la
> >> >> comunidad Cubana de los EUA. Ya la juventud Cubana los rechaza a
> >> >> ustedes y
> >> >> bailan Reggaeton y votara por los Democratas.
> >> >>
> >> >> Viva la revolucion Cubana!
> >> >
> >> > Diras Viva la Robolucion castro fascista!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Tu no crees que, entre esos deportistas, por lo menos no hubo
> >> UNO
> >> >> que
> >> >> >> > hubiera querido desertar? No han desertado a traves de los a~nos
> >> >> >> > cientos de deportistas cubanos por todas partes del mundo? No
> >> dudo
> >> >> que
> >> >> >> > seas lo suficiente idiota para creerte tu propia propaganda.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> No sea pendejo, dale a los Latino Americanos el mismo acceso que
> >> >> tienen
> >> >> >> los Cubiches y veras que empezamos a hablar espanol en
> >> gringolandia.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > La gentuza como tu solo habla el lenguaje del totalitarismo y la
> >> >> > esclavitud.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Como dicen los gusanos cubiches de la Calle 8 "Sig Heil"
> >> >> "Deutschland
> >> >> >> >> Uber
> >> >> >> >> Alles"
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > No. Decimos: Viva Cuba Libre! Abajo la tirania!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> CUBA. PRIMER TERRITORIO LIBRE DE AMERICA.!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Todo lo contrario. Cuba es terrirorio esclavo. Para los cubanos el
> >> >> > territorio libre de America es Miami
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Vete a Cuba a disfrutar el castro fascismo y a morirte de hambre,
> >> >> > degenerado
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> PATRIA O MUERTE VENCEREMOS!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Lo que dice la yegua Senecona es que El caballo Fidel Patea o
> >> Muerde
> >> >> > ---- Correremos
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:12:24 -0800, Miguel
> >> >> >> <michaelgayoso1948@msn.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Seneca wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:28:03 -0800, Miguel
> >> >> >> >> <michaelgayoso1948@msn.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Senecon.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Nadie tiene nada en contra de los peloteros cubanos.
> >> Ellos
> >> >> son
> >> >> >> >> >> > victimas del castro-fascismo como el resto del pueblo de
> >> >> Cuba.
> >> >> >> >> Quizas
> >> >> >> >> >> > ellos tengan unos cuantos
> >> >> >> >> >> > "perks" que el 99% de los cubanos no tienen. Sin embargo,
> >> >> aunque
> >> >> >> >> los
> >> >> >> >> >> > esbirros extranjeros del tirano, degenerados como tu, no
> >> lo
> >> >> >> sepan:
> >> >> >> >> No
> >> >> >> >> >> > solo de pan vive el hombre.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Yullesky Gurriel dijo en una entrevista frente los miles de
> >> >> >> dolares
> >> >> >> >> que
> >> >> >> >> >> le ofrecen los yanquis "Quiero jugar por mi pais." No solo
> >> de
> >> >> pan
> >> >> >> >> vive
> >> >> >> >> >> el
> >> >> >> >> >> hombre, ese es el hombre nuevo de Cuba.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> El pelotero Contreras que deserto ahora esta llorando por
> >> jugar
> >> >> >> con
> >> >> >> >> >> Cuba!
> >> >> >> >> >> Tiene chavos pero perdio su alma.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Imaginate un cubano tan cubano con el nombre de Yuliesky.
> >> >> >> >> > Los que pierden el alma son las que la venden a un tirano
> >> como
> >> >> >> Castro.
> >> >> >> >> > Tu hace rato la perdiste, aunque como buen comunista ateo,
> >> tu no
> >> >> >> crees
> >> >> >> >> > en el alma. Si creyeras, no apoyarias al representante de
> >> >> Lucifer
> >> >> >> en
> >> >> >> >> la
> >> >> >> >> > tierra, al monstruo de Biran, alias Fidel Castro.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Si es verdad lo que dices de Contreras, lo unico que tiene
> >> que
> >> >> >> hacer
> >> >> >> >> es
> >> >> >> >> > pedirle perdon a Abuelo Castro. No te preocupes, que el
> >> tirano
> >> >> >> hara el
> >> >> >> >> > papel de ser alguien que comprende y lo perdonara. Eso si,
> >> tiene
> >> >> >> que
> >> >> >> >> > darle su alma de nuevo.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
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> >> >> >> >
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 8:03 pm
From: Nomad®

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:21:55 -0400, "PM" <pedro1940@progression.net>
wrote:

>
>Bush's luck: due for a change?
>
>By Bill Murchison
>Oct 18, 2005
>Syndicated columnist
>http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/billmurchison/2005/10/18/171731.html
>
>What I've always wondered, reading those polls asking whether the nation is
>headed in "the right direction," is why anyone with a kindergarten education
>believes such polls tell us anything worth knowing.
>
> Let's see: the "right direction" as opposed to "the wrong direction"?
>Doubtless we're always in favor of that. Right direction on what, though?
>War, peace, the World Series, tomorrow's weather?
>
> Into the impromptu judgments for which pollsters reach, respondents pour a
>million irritations, satisfactions, itches and hopes. These the pollsters in
>turn pour over the incumbent president's head -- as if an individual
>statesman had the power to make life blissful or otherwise for the
>generality of us.
>
> In other words, let us contemplate with caution the new polls showing
>George W. Bush in hot water with the sovereign voters.
>
> Behold the price of democracy. It's a universal truth that the demos -- the
>people -- can change their minds overnight when they happen to be paying
>attention. Then change them back again. It all depends on what's happening
>when the question gets asked: Is the country going in the right direction?
>
> A corollary question might be put: When has the country ever gone in just
>the right direction? That doesn't deal, even so, with the reality that large
>numbers of Americans profess to be ticked off with George Bush. When you
>want things to go in the right direction, you hate hearing about Iraqi
>bombings, winter heating bills, hurricane victims, the New Orleans cleanup,
>divisions over Harriet Miers, and now, the possibility of a pandemic. Just
>what we need -- a pandemic.
>
> A lot of the problem has to do with our national training: We not only
>expect the pursuit of happiness to end in success, but we think when it
>doesn't it must be the president's fault. Television, with its 60-minute
>solutions to human difficulties (except, of course, those on "Lost") stokes
>our impatience. Upon that impatience the Internet works furiously. I have
>not yet decided whether the omnipresence of bloggers, and of their opinions
>on everything, contributes to our weal or our vexation. Sometimes it makes
>sense just to keep quiet and wait for events to shake out instead of
>declaring dogmatically that thus-and-so is how it is.
>
> Regarding those dreary Bush polls -- Country Going in the Wrong Direction,
>the prez himself at less than 40 percent support -- I have a single point to
>make. It is ... well, maybe; and also ... maybe not.
>
> A run of bad luck at the political tables -- too high a stack of chips left
>too long on red -- wears you down without showing anyone the shape of
>tomorrow. Hurricane Katrina would have been awful luck for any White House
>attempting to look crisp and in charge against the forces of nature. Bush
>just happened to be president: worse, at a time when long national
>procrastination about dealing with energy was playing hob with gasoline
>prices. Next the avian flu/pandemic talk. What no Bush foe should count on
>is an unbroken run of bad luck for the archenemy or arch-dope, whichever
>they take him for. We may depend on it: Circumstances change. Iraq, with the
>constitutional election behind and parliamentary elections just head, seems
>a more and more hopeful place. Prophecies of higher winter fuel prices are
>unlikely to be frustrated wholly, but there are predictions -- re-enter the
>luck factor -- of a less-than-terrible winter.
>
> None of which is to tell Bush doubters, "You're out of your mind!" Our
>present democratic fracas serves the ends of democracy by keeping adrenalin
>levels elevated -- and reminding politicians never to take our approval for
>granted.
>
> We also need reminding that, in spite of everything that worries us, the
>economy remains strong, active enemies cluster mostly in a squalid corner of
>desert, and the furnaces of democracy and debate still -- obviously -- run
>full blast.
>
> Give Mr. Bush a little credit. His record isn't half as bleak as vox populi
>seems to believe -- and his luck looks due for a little change.
>
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