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* RUSSIAN VETOES, IRAN SANCTIONS - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/39b3d9d0a8d96014
* Making Sense Of Bush's Poll Numbers - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5847b434b9cfde28
* International Stuff - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5d1b6b36a66fef20
* First terrorist from Canada sentenced today - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4403369ef6bb7a1a
* rally April 17 in DC against dysfunctional legal system - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3ba7b9fd1af02b68
* ANOTHER US war Crime.. In cold blood... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f8fc6c826a82cba
* Racism still rife in US, says China - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d9b7345c735cc004
* N.Korea: Pre-emptive Attacks Can Go Both Ways - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/51baedf3751506b1
* ? When Did The World Learn About The Holocaust ? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c33218197a5bac0d
* gun owners and nra proven wrong - again - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/113cc170f0e4312a
* YOU CALL THIS "RAPE"????? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8256272973888002
* The Islamization of America - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e09bb80be0ac7edb
* Jobs That Americans Won't Do ?? Think Again - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5f87ba45eaeed9fb
* Who would win an all-out fight between Christianity and Islam? - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/33dae19b5b171eb4
* MUKA, MUKA! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6299ab7b8fa632b8
* Catholic Monk Who Advised Terri Schiavo Family Says Human Life at Risk - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/db6227f51ee54607
* Show of war planes in the celebration of Newroz - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f8c3383b15013f0f
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TOPIC: RUSSIAN VETOES, IRAN SANCTIONS
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/39b3d9d0a8d96014
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 2:50 am
From: "DoD"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Russia blocks UN nuclear ban on Iran
Good. Iran only has a peaceful nuclear program. We better not do anything
towards that sovereign nation.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 10:42 pm
From: "serwad"
"DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
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>
> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:GuUTf.233$yn4.17@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>> Russia blocks UN nuclear ban on Iran
>
> Good. Iran only has a peaceful nuclear program. We better not do anything
> towards that sovereign nation.
Exactly! As peaceful as that of Kikeland!
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 3:45 am
From: "DoD"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
> news:BX2Uf.17826$iR1.11129@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>
>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:GuUTf.233$yn4.17@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>> Russia blocks UN nuclear ban on Iran
>>
>> Good. Iran only has a peaceful nuclear program. We better not do anything
>> towards that sovereign nation.
>
> Exactly! As peaceful as that of Kikeland!
I am not sure you want to say that. But they are a sovereign nation and as
such they should be allowed to do what they want. The U.S.A. should not take
any action against that country.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 10:55 pm
From: "serwad"
"DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
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> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:UE3Uf.2109$lM3.1251@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
>> news:BX2Uf.17826$iR1.11129@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>>
>>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:GuUTf.233$yn4.17@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>> Russia blocks UN nuclear ban on Iran
>>>
>>> Good. Iran only has a peaceful nuclear program. We better not do
>>> anything towards that sovereign nation.
>>
>> Exactly! As peaceful as that of Kikeland!
>
> I am not sure you want to say that. But they are a sovereign nation and as
> such they should be allowed to do what they want. The U.S.A. should not
> take any action against that country.
hEY, YOU FINALLY WOKE UP FROM THE LONG SLUMBER! DOBRODOSAO!
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TOPIC: Making Sense Of Bush's Poll Numbers
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5847b434b9cfde28
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 6:35 pm
From: "The Trucker"
"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> retrogrouch@comcast.net wrote:
>> On 20 Mar 2006 09:20:07 -0800, "DefendUSA.blogspot.com"
>> <james01773@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> His poll figures are not just under 40 percent, they are in the low
>>> 30s. 33 percent according to some polls. And that is his job approval
>>> ratings. His personal approval rating seems to be running about 8
>>> points lower than that.
>>
>> http://pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
>>
>>
>> - - - -
>> Just another albino black sheep
>
>
> His speechifying will get him nowhere... most Americans no longer trust him.
> He cannot regain that trust.
>
>
> repeat after me "Lame Duck"
Correction: "Dead Duck".
We will NOT support him simply because he managed to steal
another election. He WILL be removed.
--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org
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TOPIC: International Stuff
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5d1b6b36a66fef20
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 6:55 pm
From: "marika"
Frank Kalder wrote:
> > >
> A metaphor scares you?
oh sure
>
> Would you feel his EX - Anni - might be rather afraid by that
> jingle [...] or more by his 'groupies' sex-confession in the
> interview? How do "girls" think about such an issue? Might she come
> back to PRINCE TOBI?
> >
> > http://dramaqueenstyle.com
well this link should tell you that sometimes women can be drama
queens, as can men obviously
I am probably a poor selection to answer your question.
In some way I have had the ability to see past hormones and to inject
practicality into things. Perhaps this is a function of getting older
I have always figured that people are going to do things at odd times
in spite of their best judgment.
It's much like being on a diet and letting the hormones take over so
that you have that bowl of ice cream you thought you could say no to.
Sexual transgressions are much the same.
If they really really love each other then they can forgive one another
and or even understand future accidents. And it becomes no one else's
business if they decide that
If they don't really love each other than they will treat each other as
property and feel that the whole thing is about comparisons -- is the
other person a better lover, has bigger body parts, is prettier,
stronger, etc etc
There's got to be a lot of security in such a relationship but it isn't
for me to guess if they have that amount of maturity
> >
> Cute website! Perhaps, I'll provide a link at
> DESIGNER FASHION ...(HAPLIF.net).
>
> http://www.orbitalreviews.com/movies/Dragonfly.html
> >
> > this song is the PERFECT backdrop for the Dragonfly movie
> >
> > "Gonna see where I'm going, oh
> > Po, po, po, po, popozao, popozao
> > Po, po, po, po, popozao, popozao
> > Po, po, po, po, popozao, popozao"--kevin federline
> >
> http://www.thesuperficial.com/archives/2006/01/27/james_lipton_recites_kevin_fed.html
>
>
O MY GOD that was a great site absolutely howlingly funny
Have you ever seen James Lipton's show
This is a great satire on both of these people
> BibaBui on January 30, 2006:
> "In Brazil, the word "popozao" is a slang for "big ass".
>
> Popo (German) = booty :)
REally, it's nearly the same word in German
>
>
> - Belarus -
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/be9de851194ba0ec
>
> Unlike the Ukrainians the Belarusian people did not realize any change
> in their politic system... - Are they sort of jackasses or just loyal
> Russian friends?
> >
>
Here is what I think about that. IF it's loyalty it's not to Russia
but to the previous communist/socialistic regime that took care of
needs. The winner of the election promised the electorate the same
degree of security that they had before independence.
I don't remember Belarus people campaigning for freedom in the same
manner as Ukrainians throughout the ages. Ukrainians in the US were
very active politically and very unified in lobbying politicians since
at least the 60s. I am unaware that american belarussians did anything
similar.
However I could not call them jackasses. I always thought it was
interesting when the USSR was ended and the countries were given the
right to pursue independence. At that time many people wanted to
return to Ukraine to remake Ukraine in their image and also, in the
image of the parents who had come to the US in diaspora. I laughed at
these people because first of all, no one who lived in the Ukraine
wanted these people to come over there and do so. Because they hadn't
struggled side by side with them. But also, they didn't want this
because the returnees were already stuck with old style ideas of a
century gone past.
I always thought that it was interesting to watch how these newly
liberated countries developed, to see how they would develop their own
little laboratories of democracy/socialism/independence.
Belarus is just one of the experiments where people have demonstrated
that they want something closer to what existed in the days of USSR.
Ukraine is a laboratory for a different direction.
This is on tv in the computer room while I am typing
http://www.shopnbc.com/product/?familyid=J153238&track=-10102&ciid=11281&taxid=&cm_re=HP-_-HS3-_-OnAir
Each choice has 34 round single cut diamonds in bezel and prong
settings making up the dragonfly designs at the top and bottom of the
center stone
It's hard to see the little dragonfly but he's SO CUTE
mk5000
"(ay, where yo' name at? )
It's in the source, you ain't seen it?
(ay, where yo' change at? )
You can't tell dirty, I'm sparklin? "--nelly, jang-a-lang
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TOPIC: First terrorist from Canada sentenced today
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4403369ef6bb7a1a
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 9:42 pm
From: "rkusenet"
He was born in Canada to an immigrant from ******* country. Anyone
wants to wager from which country his parents immigrated.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/cdnsecurity/khawaja_mohammad.html
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 3:51 am
From: "QA, MAJ, The CyberQuaid"
Are you going to post when the case will be dismissed, as is always the
case?
"rkusenet" <rkusenet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> He was born in Canada to an immigrant from ******* country. Anyone
> wants to wager from which country his parents immigrated.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/cdnsecurity/khawaja_mohammad.html
>
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TOPIC: rally April 17 in DC against dysfunctional legal system
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3ba7b9fd1af02b68
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Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 6:58 pm
From: PatriotCaucus@gmail.com
VICTIMS of legal abuse are organizing a rally agianst the abuses of
America's dysfunctional legal sysetms in Washington DC at the Rayburn
Office Building , Washington DC on April 17 at 1 pm.
This is a rally to express a demand for a Congrssional inquiry into bad
courts, bad judges, and inadequate alwyers who are making our system of
justice a nightmare.
We appeal to journalists, the legislature, other elected officials and
the general public to attend and publicize this rally, which is the
first of its kind in American history.
Interested persons can call at 781-925-5253.
Visit the websites of sponsoring groups.
Citizensjustice.com
amatterofjustice.org
patriotcaucus.com
WITHOUT JUSTICE THERE'S JUST US !!
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TOPIC: ANOTHER US war Crime.. In cold blood...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f8fc6c826a82cba
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 6:59 pm
From: "Drexl Spivey"
>What a perfect deadlock!
That ain't about nothing!
While leftist pseudointellectuals, average joes, extremist commies and
media hoes concentrate on this bullshit, the US wedged itself between
Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. Magic? No, but same
principle.
Next we'll let those mo-fos fight it out then once they run the place
to the ground we'll take full control and establish bases throughout
the region.... perfect for our energy needs. This war won't look so
silly in a few years, when Europeons will be paying $10 per gallon of
gas.
There was a peace rally the other day and it was hysterical that some
of these idiotic protesters drove up in SUV's.... now that's some
funny shit.
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TOPIC: Racism still rife in US, says China
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d9b7345c735cc004
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Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 10:02 pm
From: Voice Of Reason <>
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:07:09 -0800, Zuo Tung <ztjt@newdeal.org> wrote:
>White people need to be responsible for their own sins. What is
>interesting about White people is that they like to tell other people
>what to do and how to be responsible, but never do the correct things
>themselves. That is the basis for 99.9% of US foreign policy problems.
I'm still trying to figure out your "logic" that implied American
slave-holders are responsible for "correcting" the errors of their
ways, given that all are dead, nearly all of them for over 100 years
now. I'd love to see how you propose to do this. (This outta be
good).
>Voice Of Reason wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:57:13 -0800, Zuo Tung <ztjt@newdeal.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Africans are not hated universally because of their culture and actions.
>>> What has happened is that over the last couple of centuries the
>>> people have been put into social-economic situations which have caused
>>> generations to pass on the causatum of poverty, desperation, and
>>> anti-social behavior. Slavery, racism, the forced prevention of social
>>> class mobility, has its consequences. What I believe is that those
>>> responsible for its creation, must be responsible for its correction.
>>
>> Well, since slavery in the US was abolished over 140 years ago, it's
>> gonna be a wee bit difficult to have the slave-owners make any
>> "corrections" today, unless ya know of a way to bring back the dead.
>>
>> In any event, the hypocrisy of Red China never ceases to amaze me,
>> given the treatment towards *their* minorities.
>>
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TOPIC: N.Korea: Pre-emptive Attacks Can Go Both Ways
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/51baedf3751506b1
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 7:09 pm
From: "0:->"
Morton Davis wrote:
> "Peter Franks" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:58%Tf.8$Fl.1@fed1read09...
>> Nick James wrote:
>>>>> Considering two nuked US cities would bring the country completely
> down.
>>>> How *** are they going to get here?
>>> Freight container. They may already be in the country.
>> Do you have any references on the effects of a ground-based explosion?
>>
>>>> Two nuked US cities wouldn't bring
>>>> America down,
>>>
>>> I believe it would. Like a hole in a balloon.
>> Doubtful -- it would definitely be demoralizing. From an infrastructure
>> perspective, it probably wouldn't have much direct impact on the economy
>> or market, there are enough alternatives to any thing that would be
>> damaged/destroyed.
>>
>>>> however, it would destroy wahtr nation was stupid enough to do
>>>> it.
>>> You have so many enemies good luck figuring that out.
>> According to the polls, there are a lot of people that have mis-directed
>> hatred towards the US. However, the people polled don't have nuclear
>> resources at their disposal.
>>
>> At a national level (those countries that /do/ have nuclear resources at
>> their disposal), there is a definite understanding between these nations
>> on the use of and repercussions of using nuclear components.
>
> Like having your nuke returned to you 100 fold.Kim Il is a bully. Eventually
> we will have to deal with him. His people are starving. Kim knows this and
> he knows it's a matter of time before he has to do something or face a
> rebellion in which starving people will come at him like ravening wolves
> without regard to whether they live or die so long as one among them kills
> him. Asking for help is not in Kim's repitoire. He desperately needs
> humanitarian aid in the form of thousands of tons of food. Rather than ask,
> he makes threats to get the food aid to appease him. It's a dangerous game -
> for him.
>> Alternative sources for nuclear materials (e.g. ex USSR sources) are
>> generally considered less than reliable, and low-yield (dirty bombs are
>> more of a threat than a nuclear device). The effects of dirty bombs are
>> again, demoralizing, but far from sufficient to collapse a nation.
>
> If anything, it'd just piss us off real good.
>> So, your "so many enemies" that are actually covertly capable and have
>> the desire to 'nuke a US city' is probably 0, or close to it.
I believe I posted this before to someone trying to make us out to be
the bad guys in the N.K. problem.
I pointed out that threats to nuke us from that quarter or actually
launching will only serve to create the Island Nation of The Former
Southern Korea, suddenly.
0:->
>
> YUP. Which is why I killfiled him.
>
>
--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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TOPIC: ? When Did The World Learn About The Holocaust ?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c33218197a5bac0d
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 9:57 pm
From: "Clem_"
<rdubose@pdq.net> wrote in message
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>
> Jim wrote:
>> http://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Holocaust.html
>>
>> 20 March 2006
>>
>> British, American, and Russian troops defeated Germany in 1945 and
>> opened up the Nazi prison camps to release the prisoners.
>>
>> However, it took a while for the world to figure out what was going on
>> inside those camps. Actually, the story of what happened during World
>> War II is still changing.
>>
>>
>> Eisenhower, Churchill, and de Gaulle did not know of the Holocaust?
>
> News of the mass killig of Jews and others was made public
> starting in late 1941. The apparent intention of the holocoast
>>>>>>>>> ?
I guess , you mean ' Hollow Cost ' ?
juste pour savoir , clem_
>was read
> to the British Parliament in open session.
> The thing was, it sounded unbeleavable and there were no visual
> images. So it did not soak in.
>
>
>>
>> A French Professor, Robert Faurisson, claims to have read thousands of
>> pages of memoirs of World War 2 from Eisenhower, Churchill, and de
>> Gaulle, and there was not a single word about gas chambers:
>
> The gas chambers per se were a well kept secret at the time.
> Churchill indeed wrote about it. FDR died too soon. De Gaule? who
> cares.
>
>
>>
>> www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/FaurisArch/RF981020.html
>>
>> Why would those three leaders ignore such an incredibly large slaughter
>> in their writings about the war?
>
> Simply wrong. Churchill wrote plenty.
>
>
>>
>>
>> One of the reasons it is taking so long to understand what happened
>> inside the Nazi camps is that many European nations have laws that
>> prohibit investigations of the Holocaust.
>
> No investigations are prohibited.
>
>
>>
>> How do the Europeans expect to understand World War II when they
>> have laws that prohibit investigations? The Europeans are fools to allow
>> these laws.
>>
>> Americans have the freedom to investigate the Holocaust. Not
>> surprisingly, our ideas on what happened at the Nazi camps change
>> through time.
>
>
> Only if someone is very uninformed to start with.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Obviously historians reduced the number of deaths in half because they
>> could not find evidence to support the figures provided by Rudolph Hoess
>> during his trial. Was Hoess merely guessing? Or did he exaggerate his
>> killings in order to make himself into the greatest murderer in human
>> history? Or was he forced to make exaggerated claims?
>
>
> Rudolph Hoess was in a British jail before the holocaust began in
> earnest. Why his opinions should now be important is way beyond me.
> Besides, the Germans kept records and that is what nailed them at
> Nuremberg.
>
>
>>
>> http://judicial-inc.biz/frank_collins.htm
>>
>> Please find the emotional strength to look at that page, and its links.
>> We can disagree on details, but all adults should be capable of looking
>> at this issue.
>>
>> There is only one way to resolve all of these disputes. Specifically,
>> the European goyim must grow a backbone and get rid of the laws that
>> prohibit investigations of the Holocaust.
>
> You are just making up this business of laws against inquiry.
>
>
>>
>> What is wrong with the European goyim? If you have goy friends or
>> relatives in Europe, tell them to stop embarrassing us, and starting
>> helping us!
>>
>> Most people's view of World War II, the Holocaust, and most other
>> subjects comes from television, movies, books, magazines, and
>> newspapers, all of which are dominated by Zionists. Goyim should not
>> exist on a diet of Zionist propaganda. Get a difference of opinion!
>
> Read Mein Kampf and then decide whether you think Hitler would
> mandate better treatment for Polish and Russian Jews than for Polish
> and (especially)Russian soldiers who hardly ever survived German
> captivity.
>
>
>>
>> Also, please note that some Jews provide a different and very
>> important perspective, such as David Cole:
>> www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Cole.html
>>
>> And, of course, Benjamin Freedman:
>> www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Freedman.html
>
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 7:51 pm
From: rdubose@pdq.net
Clem_ wrote:
> <rdubose@pdq.net> wrote in message
> news:1142995548.547165.282980@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Jim wrote:
> >> http://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Holocaust.html
> >>
> >> 20 March 2006
> >>
> >> British, American, and Russian troops defeated Germany in 1945 and
> >> opened up the Nazi prison camps to release the prisoners.
> >>
> >> However, it took a while for the world to figure out what was going on
> >> inside those camps. Actually, the story of what happened during World
> >> War II is still changing.
> >>
> >>
> >> Eisenhower, Churchill, and de Gaulle did not know of the Holocaust?
> >
> > News of the mass killig of Jews and others was made public
> > starting in late 1941. The apparent intention of the holocoast
>
> >>>>>>>>> ?
>
>
> I guess , you mean ' Hollow Cost ' ?
>
If you do not like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk.
> juste pour savoir , clem_
>
>
>
> >was read
> > to the British Parliament in open session.
> > The thing was, it sounded unbeleavable and there were no visual
> > images. So it did not soak in.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> A French Professor, Robert Faurisson, claims to have read thousands of
> >> pages of memoirs of World War 2 from Eisenhower, Churchill, and de
> >> Gaulle, and there was not a single word about gas chambers:
> >
> > The gas chambers per se were a well kept secret at the time.
> > Churchill indeed wrote about it. FDR died too soon. De Gaule? who
> > cares.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/FaurisArch/RF981020.html
> >>
> >> Why would those three leaders ignore such an incredibly large slaughter
> >> in their writings about the war?
> >
> > Simply wrong. Churchill wrote plenty.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> One of the reasons it is taking so long to understand what happened
> >> inside the Nazi camps is that many European nations have laws that
> >> prohibit investigations of the Holocaust.
> >
> > No investigations are prohibited.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> How do the Europeans expect to understand World War II when they
> >> have laws that prohibit investigations? The Europeans are fools to allow
> >> these laws.
> >>
> >> Americans have the freedom to investigate the Holocaust. Not
> >> surprisingly, our ideas on what happened at the Nazi camps change
> >> through time.
> >
> >
> > Only if someone is very uninformed to start with.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Obviously historians reduced the number of deaths in half because they
> >> could not find evidence to support the figures provided by Rudolph Hoess
> >> during his trial. Was Hoess merely guessing? Or did he exaggerate his
> >> killings in order to make himself into the greatest murderer in human
> >> history? Or was he forced to make exaggerated claims?
> >
> >
> > Rudolph Hoess was in a British jail before the holocaust began in
> > earnest. Why his opinions should now be important is way beyond me.
> > Besides, the Germans kept records and that is what nailed them at
> > Nuremberg.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> http://judicial-inc.biz/frank_collins.htm
> >>
> >> Please find the emotional strength to look at that page, and its links.
> >> We can disagree on details, but all adults should be capable of looking
> >> at this issue.
> >>
> >> There is only one way to resolve all of these disputes. Specifically,
> >> the European goyim must grow a backbone and get rid of the laws that
> >> prohibit investigations of the Holocaust.
> >
> > You are just making up this business of laws against inquiry.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> What is wrong with the European goyim? If you have goy friends or
> >> relatives in Europe, tell them to stop embarrassing us, and starting
> >> helping us!
> >>
> >> Most people's view of World War II, the Holocaust, and most other
> >> subjects comes from television, movies, books, magazines, and
> >> newspapers, all of which are dominated by Zionists. Goyim should not
> >> exist on a diet of Zionist propaganda. Get a difference of opinion!
> >
> > Read Mein Kampf and then decide whether you think Hitler would
> > mandate better treatment for Polish and Russian Jews than for Polish
> > and (especially)Russian soldiers who hardly ever survived German
> > captivity.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Also, please note that some Jews provide a different and very
> >> important perspective, such as David Cole:
> >> www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Cole.html
> >>
> >> And, of course, Benjamin Freedman:
> >> www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Freedman.html
> >
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TOPIC: gun owners and nra proven wrong - again
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/113cc170f0e4312a
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 3:17 am
From: "Þ=>+:T=N=T:+<=Þ"
"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
news:zo2Uf.43008$oL.32251@attbi_s71...
>
> "Þ=>+:T=N=T:+<=Þ" <LPioser@lopi.byr> wrote in message
> news:5l2Uf.62148$dW3.27155@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>> Good points MD.
>>
>>
> What are they? Or are you afraid to quote the message you replied to?
Not at all...The points are below.
Federal statistics also show thatr gun owners commit fewer crimes per capita
than police officers and that children who have guns are less likely to get
into trouble with the law than children in households without guns. Federal
statistics also show trhat although gun ownership in America is at an all
time high, crime is at a 30 year low and murder is at a 40 year low. Which
means harmony is just plain full of shit. Best to killfile harmony and leave
IT to talk to itself.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 3:45 am
From: "Morton Davis"
"Þ=>+:T=N=T:+<=Þ" <LPioser@lopi.byr> wrote in message
news:Uk3Uf.57094$H71.30636@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
> "Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
> news:zo2Uf.43008$oL.32251@attbi_s71...
> >
> > "Þ=>+:T=N=T:+<=Þ" <LPioser@lopi.byr> wrote in message
> > news:5l2Uf.62148$dW3.27155@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> >> Good points MD.
> >>
> >>
> > What are they? Or are you afraid to quote the message you replied to?
>
> Not at all...The points are below.
>
> Federal statistics also show thatr gun owners commit fewer crimes per
capita
> than police officers and that children who have guns are less likely to
get
> into trouble with the law than children in households without guns.
Federal
> statistics also show trhat although gun ownership in America is at an all
> time high, crime is at a 30 year low and murder is at a 40 year low. Which
> means harmony is just plain full of shit. Best to killfile harmony and
leave
> IT to talk to itself.
>
>
>
Thanks. Now everyone knows what we are talking about.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 7:46 pm
From: "0:->"
Morton Davis wrote:
> <editor@netpath.net> wrote in message
> news:1142990640.607096.285820@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>> Harmony wrote:
>>> gn (gun nuts = gun owners + nra) have always argued that >gun criminals
> have a long history of non-gun based criminal->violence record. we all know
> that
>>> to be a bumptious nonsense repeated ad infinitum
>> Bull. If your claim that "average" people did murders just because
>> they had guns came even close to being true, federal (in)Justice Dept.
>> statistics wouldn't show murder in America so ghettoized to the black
>> ghetto that black Americans commit murder at EIGHT times the rate
>> European-Americans do - and black Americans die of murder at FIVE times
>> the rate European-Americans do. The only way for murder in America to
>> be so largely confined to a racial group of under 12% of the population
>> is for murder really to be something "typical" Americans just don't do!
>>
>>
> Federal statistics also show thatr gun owners commit fewer crimes per capita
> than police officers and that children who have guns are less likely to get
> into trouble with the law than children in households without guns. Federal
> statistics also show trhat although gun ownership in America is at an all
> time high, crime is at a 30 year low and murder is at a 40 year low. Which
> means harmony is just plain full of shit. Best to killfile harmony and leave
> IT to talk to itself.
Mort, do you really think it fair of you, you sly devil, to post like
that and incite some poor fool anti gun kookoo to challenge you to "CITE?"
You know what it does to them when we lay all this out and they have to
see it for real. The local shrink's office fills up with folks suffering
from hysterical blindness and lying about how it happened.
R R R R
Kane
>
>
--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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TOPIC: YOU CALL THIS "RAPE"?????
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8256272973888002
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 7:39 pm
From: "NYC XYZ"
You're fourteen, and a young and sexy blue-eyed blonde teacher gives
you sex...and this is rape????
What a fucked-up society we live in!
How the hell can a pretty young woman rape a teenage guy????
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/21/charges.dropped/index.html
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TOPIC: The Islamization of America
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e09bb80be0ac7edb
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 10:40 pm
From: "serwad"
"DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
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>
> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:%Z1Uf.1106$sU4.210@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "Pathfinder" <dmayer76@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:Wv1Uf.16017$S25.239@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>> Muslems are loyal to Allah first...and America second. Christians are
>>> loyal to Christ first..and the USA second....are they not not capable of
>>> being Americans?
>> It would do you good to read the Holy Quran!
>
> Might as well. We already lost ......
There is nothing to lose idiot, muslims are not after anything you have. It
is the other way around
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 3:42 am
From: "DoD"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:BD3Uf.2108$lM3.756@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>
> "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
> news:Ak2Uf.17817$iR1.285@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>
>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:%Z1Uf.1106$sU4.210@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> "Pathfinder" <dmayer76@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Wv1Uf.16017$S25.239@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>> Muslems are loyal to Allah first...and America second. Christians are
>>>> loyal to Christ first..and the USA second....are they not not capable
>>>> of being Americans?
>>> It would do you good to read the Holy Quran!
>>
>> Might as well. We already lost ......
> There is nothing to lose idiot, muslims are not after anything you have.
> It is the other way around
You're right.
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TOPIC: Jobs That Americans Won't Do ?? Think Again
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5f87ba45eaeed9fb
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 10:29 pm
From: Dave Smith
Don Homuth wrote:
>
> >Don, buddy, get a grip on reality. The car was poorly designed as you
> >have so nicely outlined below.
>
> Oh, nonsense. As compact cars of the time go, it was as good as any
> and a better performer than some. One of the little GT wagons
> actually won an SCCA SSC race in stock form, if memory serves.
As compact cars of the time went, they sucked. They compared well only
against North American compacts.
> > You are trying to pass the blame off on
> >poor maintenance,
>
> In every case, it was poor maintenance that caused the problem. As
> designed, they worked just fine.
It's not a great thing when you have to watch your fluid levels faithfully
to prevent problems like overheating. While you can prevent the damage
caused by low fluid levels by watching them closely the thing is that you
shouldn't have to be watching them that closely. Maybe you have point about
people not being used to having to keep an eye on things like that because
previous car models and the foreign competition didn't have the same need
for close scrutiny.
> They didn't fail catastrophically in the matters mentioned. Body
> cancer is not a catastrophic failure.
NA cars went through periods where they rusted out way to quickly. For
instance.... mid 70s Fords. Later Fords were only a little better. I
bought a Mazda van. A coworker bought an Aerostar. Then another coworker
bought an Aerostar. Both thought the Mazda too expensive at $2,000 more
than their Fords. They each went through two Aerostars and my Mazda was
still on the road. Their Fords rotted away. Both of them washed their
cars much more frequently than I wash mine.
> The engine problem always first
> manifested itself as a head gasket failure -- which is likewise not
> catastrophic.
Some engines are notorious for head gasket failure. It is usually a design
flaw.
> Get right on it so it doesn't get worse, and it's
> entirely curable.
Sure. You can replace the head gasket. It is not a cheap repair. In most
engines it is not a necessary repair.
> Requiring owners to keep coolants at proper levels is Not a design
> flaw -- it's a maintenance issue. No car is designed to operate
> properly when its coolant level drops below a specific critical level.
Coolant levels drop because of problems. Sometimes it gets really hot and
engine temperature gets too hot for the system. If you are still losing
coolant in cooler seasons you have a leak somewhere. If you are driving a
crap car and see so leaks under your parked car it's probably the head
gasket.
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TOPIC: Who would win an all-out fight between Christianity and Islam?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/33dae19b5b171eb4
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 3:48 am
From: GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia
Kevin wrote:
> OK, sports fans, lemme hear your take on an all-out Christian verses
> Islam battle. Winner take all. Who would win, and why?
No one would win but the cockroaches and houseflies.
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.
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TOPIC: MUKA, MUKA!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6299ab7b8fa632b8
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 10:48 pm
From: "serwad"
MUKA MUKA: The Japanese have a phrase for it
In Japanese, "Muka Muka" means "I'm so angry that I could throw up!"
Today George Bush (no doubt on the advice of Karl Rove),went before the
Press Corps and took questions from all quarters, including Helen Thomas
(who he has diss'd for 3 years!). Helen asked him "After thousands have died
in Iraq because of a series of reasons given by this Administration which
have been proven untrue, can you explain why you went to war?"
Bush's response to this question was only among the first of a litany of
outright lies."I didn't want to go to war, despite what you've heard. I
never wanted war" How's that again? Most readers here don't need to be told
that as far back as 1993 Bush was approached by Texas neocons to discuss
attacking Iraq if and when Bush ran for the presidency. That became a
reality, of course, and starting in 2002 Bush was talking with Rumsfeld and
Wolfowitz and others who heartily recommended attacking Iraq. Rumsfeld said
"Why attack Afghanistan?..there are many better targets in Iraq" (etc). Bush
also pushed for an attack because "Saddam tried to kill my dad", and
"because Saddam sought yellowcake from Nigeer".
He also told the Press corps that "Democracies don't war" That, of course,
is a blatent lie. It's happened many times. I might point out our phony war
against North Viet Nam for starters...and of course OUR Iraq fiasco! Bush
told the Corps that "These people are willing to kill innocent men,women and
children for their own agenda" And are WE guilty of this precise crime as
well? I think so.
Another absurd comment was "al Qaeda wants to triumph in Iraq so they can
use that country as a headquarters to plan attacks on their neighbors and
our country"
What can I say in the final analysis? How about "Muka Muka!"
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TOPIC: Catholic Monk Who Advised Terri Schiavo Family Says Human Life at Risk
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/db6227f51ee54607
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 3:53 am
From: "George"
That's why he chose a life of celebacy? To preserve human life? alk about
lack of credibility!
George
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TOPIC: Show of war planes in the celebration of Newroz
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f8c3383b15013f0f
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 8:01 pm
From: "Jim E"
"umu" <umu@topkale.net> wrote in message
news:1142978206.153889.263520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Ali Asker the pkk terrorist wrote:
>> Show of war planes in the celebration of Newroz
> <...crap deleted...>
>
> Hey guy! Watch out!
> What you do is spreading propaganda for a
> forbidden criminal terror organisation and its jailed
> head who is a murderer of several people.
> Such propaganda is against the law!
> It doesn't matter who the writer of the texts is,
> it's a criminal act.
> This organization is forbidden everywhere on earth.
> You cannot post such bullshit in usenet groups.
>
> I'm going to report you to the police. What is your name?
>
His name is as irrelevant as his spiel.
Nobody gives a crap about his personal little crusade.
Jim E
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