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* EU rushes aid to Hamas led Palestine - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/87e3701c21c3b964
* Sultan says Quran is to blame - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ae1f11a35459eb86
* Girl, 8, is killed in Israeli raid - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d733e57553b4a604
* who will put the bell on the cat? - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3d538d9c70b9eeaf
* The Quran is Amazing - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9fe2612af3bc1f36
* Racism still rife in US, says China - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d9b7345c735cc004
* L@@K @ What These Niggas Did. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cf4f1e9785c06b16
* Jobs That Americans Won't Do ?? Think Again - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5f87ba45eaeed9fb
* Clouds - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/64ca5d3d98c15f0e
* Bush Bombs: Another Bloodbath for Baghdad! Got Your Attention? - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8bf6c494eb27eb28
* What's Israel done for America, lately... ever? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/67529f7111b6b0a2
* Martin Luther King, Jr. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/66d25f3a6c6b688d
* Simple Math demonstrate that the Official 9/11 Account is a Fabrication - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/90ccec1bc1da467
* Bury Muslim Beasts in Pig Fat - NY Post - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a25f5584bd868fd7
* Hostage in Palestine - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/596a677351a02184
* Lets Stop With the Auschwitz Lies. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/399c1c7c48647bb2
* Hey U.S. Military Members: Is THIS what you signed-up for? - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d3fa50b54e3f0ec7
* hindutva terrorism, spamming addresses all over usenet! - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/11e502dfbc177311
* 11 PEOPLE, 1000s CATTLE, HORSES BURN ALIVE IN TEXAS FIRES - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c3dd594ebaaf4cbd
* Talmudistan's Rabbi Calls For Murder of Uri Avnery By IDF Terrorist Forces -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bd8d5b775eee212e
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TOPIC: EU rushes aid to Hamas led Palestine
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/87e3701c21c3b964
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 12:14 am
From: hi@anony (habshi)
These Jihadis are getting most funds from charitable donations
in the west ie western taxpayers and mad liberals of the EU
excerpt
Europe hands over Palestinian aid
Thousands of Palestinians depend on food aid
The European Union has handed over 64m euros (£44m) in aid to help the
poorest Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.
But it said that future aid depended on the incoming Hamas government
showing a commitment to work for peace, saying the group was "at a
crossroads".
The EU is due to give another 60m euros to cover official salaries and
energy expenses for the Palestinian Authority.
The one-off aid package was agreed last month after Israel withheld
monthly customs revenues from the PA.
See how the EU and US fund the Palestinians
The money will be distributed via the United Nations.
The EU was the largest single donor to the Palestinians in 2005.
'No blackmail'
In Brussels on Monday, EU external relations commissioner Benita
Ferrero-Waldner handed a cheque for 64m euros to Karen AbuZayed, of
the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA).
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TOPIC: Sultan says Quran is to blame
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ae1f11a35459eb86
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 12:19 am
From: hi@anony (habshi)
One brave woman who has given up Islam. If half a billion did the same
, only the men would remain Muslims.The Prophet himslef put apostates
to death so it is Islamic
excerpt
Sultan told the Times she is no longer a practicing Islamic. "I am a
secular human being," she said.
The other guest on the program, identified as an Egyptian professor of
religious studies, Dr. Ibrahim al-Khouli, asked, "Are you a heretic?"
He then said there was no point in rebuking or debating her, because
she had blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet Muhammad and the Koran.
Sultan told the Times that she regarded his words as a fatwa, a
religious condemnation. Since then, she said, she has received
numerous death threats on her answering machine and by e-mail.
One message said, the Times reported, "Oh, you are still alive? Wait
and see." She also received an e-mail message in Arabic, that said,
"If someone were to kill you, it would be me."
Sultan said her mother, who still lives in Syria, is afraid to contact
her directly, speaking only through a sister who lives in Qatar. She
said she worried more about the safety of family members here and in
Syria than she did for her own.
"I have no fear," she told the Times. "I believe in my message. It is
like a million-mile journey, and I believe I have walked the first and
hardest 10 miles."
The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of
religions or a clash of civilizations," Sultan told the Times. "It is
a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between
a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that
belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and
backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between
barbarity and rationality."
In the debate, she questioned the religious teachings that prompt
young people to commit suicide in the name of God. "Why does a young
Muslim man, in the prime of life, with a full life ahead, go and blow
himself up?" she told the Times. "In our countries, religion is the
sole source of education and is the only spring from which that
terrorist drank until his thirst was quenched."
Sultan is, she told the Times, "working on a book that -- if it is
published -- it's going to turn the Islamic world upside down. I have
reached the point that doesn't allow any U-turn. I have no choice. I
am questioning every single teaching of our holy book."
The working title of the book is, Sultan told the Times, The Escaped
Prisoner: When God Is a Monster.
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TOPIC: Girl, 8, is killed in Israeli raid
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d733e57553b4a604
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 12:25 am
From: "Harry"
"Islam Will Replace Collapsing Amerikan Empire"
<islam_to_replace_amerikan_empire@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4IcTf.87$ji6.6859@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Girl, 8, is killed in Israeli raid
>
> JENIN: An eight-year-old Palestinian girl was shot dead by the Israeli
> military in the northern West Bank last night.
>
> Iqbar Zayed was riding in a car driven by her uncle in Yamun, east of
> Jenin, when she was hit, Palestinian hospital sources said.
>
> http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=138443&Sn=WORL&IssueID=28363
That'll stop her growing up and shitting out a whole litter of terrorists.
>
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TOPIC: who will put the bell on the cat?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3d538d9c70b9eeaf
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 6:26 pm
From: "Stephen Sprunk"
"LongmuirG" <LongmuirG@aol.com> wrote in message
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> To review, the OPEC government pays for all the costs of exploration,
> drilling, and production --- and gets $1.50 for its trouble. Brit Gov
> does almost nothing and gets $4.09 for allowing its drones (sorry,
> citizens) the privilege of buying vehicle fuel. The OPEC government's
> conclusion is obvious -- the price of oil needs to be a lot higher, so
> that the OPEC government gets a big piece of the $4.09 that BritGov is
> pocketing.
>
> So why has that not happened yet? There are a number of theories, but
> one of them is the complication of the presence in the global market of
> low fuel tax regimes like the US. If the US ever decides to follow in
> the Euro footsteps and stick high taxes on motor fuels, that market
> complication will be removed, and OPEC governments will use their
> bargaining power to reclaim the taxes being seized by greedy EUnuchs.
To work, all the OPEC members would need to toe the line voluntarily and/or
there'd need to be a way to penalize ones that didn't. Experience shows
there's little danger of that.
Even today, members violate production quotas when prices rise even
marginally since they can't bear to turn down the enormous profits from
doing so. If prices rise significantly, it will be because OPEC can't
produce enough oil to meet the elastic demand or doing so simply costs a lot
more than it does now. They're not cohesive enough to act together for any
extended period of time.
They also understand that if oil prices rise too fast, it will cause buyers
to switch to other fuel sources, and once that happens they're unlikely to
switch back to oil. Nobody wants to kill the goose happily laying golden
eggs. The strategy, then, is to raise them slowly and consistently enough
that nobody is shocked into switching, even if at some point it would be
economically beneficial to do so. I think the analogy is boiling a frog --
do it slowly enough and they won't notice.
S
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 8:07 pm
From: "NobodyYouKnow"
"LongmuirG" <LongmuirG@aol.com> wrote in message
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> donquijote1954 quoted someone (Christian Science Monitor) saying:
> > "The biggest hole in our [US] policy today is fuel taxation," he [Lee
Schipper]
> > adds. "Tax increases are something Americans should do but don't know
how
> > to do, and I wonder if they will ever be able to.
The problem is that the U.S. does NOT pay the actual price of the fuel, due
to tax SUBSIDIES, not taxes on the gas.
http://www.progress.org/gasoline.htm
"The true price of gasoline is as high as $15.14 a gallon, according to a
new report released by the International Centre for Technology Assessment. "
Actually, other, even mor authoritative reports puts it at about $19/gallon,
so MOST of what you pump into your gas hog is taxes that someone ELSE paid
for.
To remove enough subsidies to push the price to $6/gallon would be the FIRST
step in the right direction.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 5:35 pm
From: "Clifford"
"NobodyYouKnow" <TheVoiceOfReason@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> "LongmuirG" <LongmuirG@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1142896653.709926.146580@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> donquijote1954 quoted someone (Christian Science Monitor) saying:
>> > "The biggest hole in our [US] policy today is fuel taxation," he [Lee
> Schipper]
>> > adds. "Tax increases are something Americans should do but don't know
> how
>> > to do, and I wonder if they will ever be able to.
>
> The problem is that the U.S. does NOT pay the actual price of the fuel,
> due
> to tax SUBSIDIES, not taxes on the gas.
>
> http://www.progress.org/gasoline.htm
> "The true price of gasoline is as high as $15.14 a gallon, according to a
> new report released by the International Centre for Technology Assessment.
> "
>
> Actually, other, even mor authoritative reports puts it at about
> $19/gallon,
> so MOST of what you pump into your gas hog is taxes that someone ELSE paid
> for.
>
> To remove enough subsidies to push the price to $6/gallon would be the
> FIRST
> step in the right direction.
>
>
Yup. Great report! Now there is a social cost added to driving. All that
"free parking" that we don't pay for. All those parking spaces in the cities
that are unproductive. And, yes, the cost of guarding our national reserves.
You liberals are just too funny! Just when I think you coudn't come up with
something new, WHAMMO. You spit out this crap. At least your not dull.
Oh, by the way, the author is a scientist and a stink... thinker!
Clifford
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TOPIC: The Quran is Amazing
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9fe2612af3bc1f36
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 12:29 am
From: "Harry"
"Islam Will Replace Collapsing Amerikan Empire"
<islam_to_replace_amerikan_empire@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The Quran is Amazing
True!!!
In tests, 9 out of 10 assholes preffered it.
Softer than Charmin and twice as strong!!!!
> by Gary Miller
>
> Calling the Qur'an amazing is not something done only by Muslims, who have
> an appreciation for the book and who are pleased with it; it has been
> labeled amazing by non-Muslims as well. In fact, even people who hate
> Islam very much have still called it amazing.
>
> One thing which surprises non-muslims who are examining the book very
> closely is that the Qur'an does not appear to them to be what they
> expected. What they assume is that they have an old book which came
> fourteen centuries ago from the Arabian desert; and they expect that the
> book should look something like that - an old book from the desert. And
> then they find out that it does not resemble what they expected at all.
> Additionally, one of the first things that some people assume is that
> because it is an old book which comes from the desert, it should talk
> about the desert. Well the Qur'an does talk about the desert - some of its
> imagery describes the desert; but it also talks about the sea - what it's
> like to be in a storm on the sea.
>
> Some years ago, the story came to us in Toronto about a man who was in the
> merchant marine and made his living on the sea. A Muslim gave him a
> translation of the Qur'an to read. The merchant marine knew nothing about
> the history of Islam but was interested in reading the Qur'an. When he
> finished reading it, he brought it back to the Muslim and asked, "This
> Muhammed, was he a sailor?" He was impressed at how accurately the Qur'an
> describes a storm on a sea. When he was told, "No as a matter of fact,
> Muhammed lived in the desert," that was enough for him. He embraced Islam
> on the spot. He was so impressed with the Qur'an's description because he
> had been in a storm on the sea, and he knew that whoever had written that
> description had also been in a storm on the sea. The description of "a
> wave, over it a wave, over it clouds" was not what someone imagining a
> storm on a sea to be like would have written; rather, it was written by
> someone who knew what a storm on the sea was like. This is one example of
> how the Qur'an is not tied to a certain place and time. Certainly, the
> scientific ideas expressed in it also do not seem to originate from the
> desert fourteen centuries ago.
>
> More to read........
>
> http://www.islam101.com/science/GaryMiller.html
>
>
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 5:03 pm
From: "Philip"
Harry wrote:
> "Islam Will Replace Collapsing Amerikan Empire"
> <islam_to_replace_amerikan_empire@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8FWRf.3396$fy1.192363@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > The Quran is Amazing
>
>
> True!!!
>
> In tests, 9 out of 10 assholes preffered it.
> Softer than Charmin and twice as strong!!!!
>
Or it could have even been 8 out of 10 arseholes
but that would have required a nasty little fat mouth Jew
to type.
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3488/chosen8yd.gif
1980s
There's been a bomb in Oxford Street! And in the
days before Al'Qaeda, there's only one prime suspect.
U.S.A sponsoring terrorists as always.
The U.S.A has sponsored every terrorist organisation in the world.
One way or another throughout history the U.S.A as attempted
to kill you.
http://www.itnarchive.com/video/conflict2.ram
VIDED BROADBAND
http://www.itnarchive.com/video/conflict.ram
VIdeo Modem
The only good yank is a dead yank kill the fucker and do the world a
favour.
http://media.putfile.com/On-The-Streets-Of-America-3
It shows you just how backward yanks are pathetic fucking yanks.
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TOPIC: Racism still rife in US, says China
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d9b7345c735cc004
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Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 4:42 pm
From: Zuo Tung
I judge a person's open mindedness by the ability of that person to try
eating new ethnic foods. If a person is open minded, they would try the
new food without reservation or hesitation. Then if they don't like it,
after trying it, I don't have any problem with that. But if they
refuse to even try something new, I don't consider them open-minded at all.
I think many Americans are fairly open minded - but only to a certain
degree.
profpsychoticmrs@aol.com wrote:
> Zuo Tung wrote:
>> White people need to be responsible for their own sins. What is
>> interesting about White people is that they like to tell other people
>> what to do and how to be responsible, but never do the correct things
>> themselves. That is the basis for 99.9% of US foreign policy problems.
>
>
> The British think like this, and this is something I only realized.
>
> I have an Iranian friend who thinks the Brits are the worst garbage,
> the most arrogant shit on the face of the earth, and she would openly
> disparage them. I would defend them, but after becoming more aquinted
> with a few, I realized she was right. They do think they are better
> than the rest, superior in mind and culture.
>
> Americans are much more open, despite their problems. It's what keeps,
> and makes, this country, great.
>>
>>
>> Voice Of Reason wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:57:13 -0800, Zuo Tung <ztjt@newdeal.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Africans are not hated universally because of their culture and actions.
>>>> What has happened is that over the last couple of centuries the
>>>> people have been put into social-economic situations which have caused
>>>> generations to pass on the causatum of poverty, desperation, and
>>>> anti-social behavior. Slavery, racism, the forced prevention of social
>>>> class mobility, has its consequences. What I believe is that those
>>>> responsible for its creation, must be responsible for its correction.
>>> Well, since slavery in the US was abolished over 140 years ago, it's
>>> gonna be a wee bit difficult to have the slave-owners make any
>>> "corrections" today, unless ya know of a way to bring back the dead.
>>>
>>> In any event, the hypocrisy of Red China never ceases to amaze me,
>>> given the treatment towards *their* minorities.
>>>
>
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TOPIC: L@@K @ What These Niggas Did.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cf4f1e9785c06b16
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 7:41 pm
From: "127.0.0.1" <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1>
Niggercrusher wrote:
> Let em come out to the backwoods with that simple shit, they won't be
> going home. That's for damn sure !!!! FACT...
>
Whites need to be armed in a multiracial society. This ain't Iceland.
Look, if your driving in your car minding your own business and some ANIMAL
feels the need to open up your car door and assult 'you, or your passanger'
You pull out a pistol and put a bullet in the head of this savage beast!
If you don't have permit to carry a concealed weapon - GET ONE.
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TOPIC: Jobs That Americans Won't Do ?? Think Again
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5f87ba45eaeed9fb
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Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 4:46 pm
From: Don Homuth
On 20 Mar 2006 16:08:26 -0800, baron48@hotmail.com wrote:
>Don Homuth wrote:
>>
>> The key to keeping a Vega was always to ensure that the coolant
>> recovery system worked properly.
>
>How did this help the massive body rust problem
Wash it. Regularly and thoroughly.
Undercoat it -- which worked Just Fine when I got my two new ones in
1976.
Murkens tend to think their inexpensive cars don't need maintenance.
Maybe it's because they can't afford it -- which is why they bought a
cheap car in the first place. My two 1976 models were driven often in
MN winters, and didn't develop the sorts of rust problems I've heard
others complain about.
All it really took was a visit to the car wash maybe twice a month.
>... and the moronic aluminum block engine design?
There was nothing Moronic about it, Providing you installed and/or
maintained the coolant overflow system. I'll grant you that GM did a
stupid thing by not putting one onto the early models. But I put one
on my 71 because I happened to know that Not having one was pretty
stupid across the board.
The problem developed when coolant levels in the motor dropped below
the head. If you allowed that to happen, you were your own worst
enemy. In the later models, the CRS functioned well. If memory
serves, the motors came with at least a 60k warranty on them in 76 and
77 -- but by then it was far too late. That warranty, though, was one
of the best in the industry, at the time.
If you wish to complain about the fact that the motor was made of
aluminum and had acid-etched cynlinder bores, you might be well
reminded the M-B had Precisely the same alloy and Precisely the same
sort of acid etching of the cylinder bores as well. There was no
problem with those motors as a general rule that ever developed simply
by virtue of the fact that they were high silicon aluminum alloy.
The key was keeping the coolant levels proper. Murkens tend to forget
such things or think they aren't necessary.
> Granted we got 100,000+ miles out of a
>71, but it wasn't without a lot of bondo and motor oil.
If you required bondo, that might have been cheaper than spending a
coupla bucks at a car wash twice a month. If you developed cylinder
problems, there was an easy and inexpensive solution readily
available. You simply didn't know about it.
Sorry. We learn lessons from bad experience, seldom from good ones.
But a little simple cluefulness is a good thing, right across the
board.
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TOPIC: Clouds
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/64ca5d3d98c15f0e
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 4:47 pm
From: "Ilya the Bat"
Clouds, do you know your purpose?
Clouds, to what place you fly?
Clouds, do you feel the force of
Love in the autumn sky?
Clouds, can you feel the distance
Soaring through time and space?
Man, can you feel Existence
Touching you on the face?
Sun beams between them, screaming,
Cinging us - and the chill
Beckons the soul that's dreaming
And through it forges Will.
Pelican cloud is flying
With long distended beak,
Look at it as it's dying
And turns into a streak -
Dragonfly, wings extended,
Amid white tulip blooms,
Beaches made of white sand and
On their side, hotel rooms,
Columns of wind and vapor:
Fetus amid them sits
On luscious breast - the Shaper
Vanishes in their mist!
Wool of a lamb uplifted
Over the sky it laves
Sands of Sahara shifting -
Foam of the ocean waves -
Feathery line of funnels -
Geisers that through them burst -
Streams through the sky make tunnels
And slake the heaven's thirst:
Soft cherry blossoms paling
And making pillows white,
Yacht on an ocean sailing
And vanishing from sight,
Soft feather-bedded pillows
Light like the milky way
White foam of ocean billows
And many shades of gray
Sail in the ocean sunset!
Airplane over the seas!
Mingling of fire and dust and
Wisps of the seaside breeze!
Light of eternal morning!
Back of beluga whale!
Sides of space shuttle soaring!
Dome of the Taj Mahal!
Pyre of Sardanapalus!
Spanish baptismal font!
Luminous orchid blossoms!
Whites of the eyes that haunt!
Fractal designs combining
Imaginal and real!
Mind and the heart refining
All things to think and feel!
Merger of mind and soul -
Reason and sensuousness!
Universe in its whole
With its sublime caress!
Soft incandescent foam!
Fruit of the wind and sun!
There they begin, there roam,
And with next look, they're gone!
Sun goes down on the west, and
Moon rises on the east -
Full and complete, and rested
Over this painter's feast:
Clouds are between them floating
Life's colors merged in one
And earth upon them doting
As it lets go of Sun -
Look at them as they travel
Over the sky of blue
Lift your heart to their level
And by them be made true.
Ilya Shambat.
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TOPIC: Bush Bombs: Another Bloodbath for Baghdad! Got Your Attention?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8bf6c494eb27eb28
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 5:02 pm
From: dan
Gunner wrote:
> On 16 Mar 2006 12:27:29 -0800, jismquiff@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>>Things are going so bad for Dumbya -- overseas and domestically -- that
>>his "handlers" Karen Hughes and Karl Rove decided to take some of the
>>direct heat off their "man" by directing your president to launch a big
>>bombing effort north of Baghdad. MSNBC reports it's the U.S.'s largest
>>bombing operation since we fist attacked Iraq in 2003.
>>
>>Nothing like more bombs to deflect Red Staters' attention from the
>>chimp's misbegotten criminal war, failed Social Security remake, broken
>>wiretapping laws, woeful Medicare drug "program," enormous forever tax
>>cuts for wealthy friends of the smirker, prodigious deficits,
>>compromised civil liberties under a failed homeland security gestapo,
>>and a divided body politic that will probably never be reunited under
>>America's original noble concepts.
>>
>>Certainly this attack offers palpable proof that Bush's Baghdad
>>Bloodbath is more out of control than ever. Sad to say, but the
>>parents and spouses and children of the dead and maimed -- U.S. and all
>>other "war" victims -- have spilled their lives and limbs and blood
>>for, essentially, nothing! In vain!
>>
>>And yesterday, the bonobo reiterated his frightening "Preemptive War"
>>policy, again, of course, to help divert our attention from the
>>criminal miscues of the worst administration since ... mybe of all
>>time. Only time will tell. This jerk has almost three more years to
>>kill people.
>>
>>Peace, democracy ... my ass!
>>
>>Why won't the Congress summon the guts to relieve this madman and his
>>fools of their "duties" and bring indictment charges against 'em?
>>They've destroyed our nation's honor in every conceivable way,
>>including their shamful response to Katrina that has embarrassed not
>>only America and Americans, but the world, which anxiously awaits a
>>return to sanity. Will they wait in vain?
>
>
> Now thats an interesting way of spinning a strong offensive against
> an enemy stronghold.
Best you pay attention before you embarrass yourself (yet again) with
your displays of ignorance...
Dan
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TOPIC: What's Israel done for America, lately... ever?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/67529f7111b6b0a2
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 4:55 pm
From: "Honest Aryan"
Yosemite Sam wrote:
> Pretty good, a lot of restraint was shown at our request.
Arabs are about as inflamed as they're ever
likely to get, so restraint right now is a deal less
useful than Israeli expertise at killing them.
In fact, getting the IDF out from behind its
insurgent-proof Great Wall Of Israel will empower
Arabs to engage it in a much fairer fight and go
some way in assuaging their anger.
In fact, what is needed is needed is restraint on
'America's unwavering support for Israel in setting
aside its own security and that of many of its allies in
order to advance the interests of another state... giving
it well over $140 billion since WWII... and at the beginning
of each fiscal year so Israel can earn interest on it...
turning a blind eye to its nuclear weapons ... etc ...etc'
ibid
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
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http://users.bluecarrots.com/rbisto/BBC/BBC.html
Admission *FREE* - even for libruls!
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 5:10 pm
From: Irving Supporter
Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20 Mar 2006 01:43:16 -0800, "Honest Aryan" <ha@centralpets.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> Just like they have been more willing to gas Jews...
>> Lucky old Jews.
>
> Drop dead you racist scumhole.
insults are the last refuge for the "out argued"
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TOPIC: Martin Luther King, Jr.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/66d25f3a6c6b688d
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 8:01 pm
From: "PhonyRevSucks"
DoD wrote:
> "When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews, You are talking
> anti-Semitism."
Great visionary; who I am convinced was killed by a group of White
Supremist police officers. James Earl Ray was a fall guy.
http://crimemagazine.com/Assassinations/who.htm
--
___________________________________________________________
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities
of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the
name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of
darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost
children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and
furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my
brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance
upon thee.
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TOPIC: Simple Math demonstrate that the Official 9/11 Account is a Fabrication
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/90ccec1bc1da467
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 7:37 pm
From: Jacques Pelletier
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:00:54 -0500, Buddy III wrote:
> The 9/11 TRUTH is coming back to haunt your people Richard. Tic Toc Tic
> Toc ...
>
>
And what is this 'truth'?
Didn't Al-Quaida revendicated 9/11?
<snip>
JP
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TOPIC: Bury Muslim Beasts in Pig Fat - NY Post
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a25f5584bd868fd7
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 5:20 pm
From: "Philip"
Abdul Al-Hazred wrote:
> From 2004: Thank God for the First Amendment. In Europe Mr. Dunleavy would
> be probably be arrested and charged with violating "hate speech" laws that
> whiney Euro-Liberals seem to be so proud of. Even in Canuckistan his job
> would be on the line.
>
>
> BURY BEASTS IN PIG FAT
>
> By STEVE DUNLEAVY
>
> NOT tomorrow, not the day after, but in a skinny minute, the following must
> happen. Every single mosque in this United States must make a simple
> statement.
>
> And that is: "We universally condemn the brutal execution of Paul Johnson."
>
> I mean every mosque.
>
> God, what have these putrid monsters posing as humans, wrought?
>
> To see the pictures of the beheading of this decent family man is to
> postpone sleep, lest nightmares become your master.
>
> His severed head is placed neatly on his lifeless torso as if to convey some
> kind of stomach-curdling trophy. A crude and bloodied kitchen knife rests
> pointed at his forehead.
>
> I'm glad you won't see the pictures and I'm not sure I should have seen them
> either.
>
> And this is in the cause of what?
>
> Power? Politics? Money? Or just evil that has fallen off the Richter scale
> of humanity?
>
> Wild animals, sharks, snakes, vermin and viruses don't kill like this.
>
> A curse on you all. OK, let's get it straight: The religion of Mohammed is
> respected, as it should and always will be. But to stay mute or do nothing
> less than condemnation in this terrible moment might transmit a very wrong
> message to those who have not, as I have, read the English translation of
> the Koran.
>
> The Koran is crystal clear about the barbaric act perpetrated against a fine
> American and someone who loved the Arab world.
>
> For mosques, every single one of them, who minister to good people, many
> American born, to resist a condemnation - a strong condemnation - will only
> fuel an internal inferno.
>
> Not everyone in this country, or this world, grasps what the Muslim religion
> is all about.
>
> The ignorant will take idiotic and extreme acts against the law-abiding of
> the Muslim faith. That is a simple, if frightening conclusion.
>
> The extremists - misguided maniacs, as any Muslim scholar will tell you -
> are not waging a holy war.
>
> Ziad Jarrah, one of the mentally challenged plotters of 9/11, never went to
> worship, preferring the fleshpots of Beirut, and drinking in German beer
> holes with college students.
>
> This whole movement is all about being brutal, all powerful, arrogant,
> mindless beasts. The Western world has plenty of their own, lets face it.
>
> I spent too many cold days in Bosnia with my great friend "Wolf," a Muslim,
> to know that we Christians and that Muslim are very much of the same fiber.
>
> I have been in a mosque with that superb gentleman, Muhammad Ali, enough to
> know exactly the coordinates of his great heart.
>
> But those who committed this atrocity should be executed and buried in pig
> fat.
>
> Extreme moments of horror should be met with extreme actions of preventive
> retribution.
>
> That will end their childish, propagandized dreams, perpetrated by the al
> Qaeda con men who tell them that they will meet 72 virgins on their demise.
>
> Meanwhile, Saddam Hussein is doing very well, thank you, getting three
> square meals a day in a clean prison, courtesy of our tax dollars. Go
> figure.
>
> And Osama bin Laden wills his tools of the devil, not God.
>
> Bury them in pig fat.
>
>
> http://www.nypost.com/commentary/23298.htm
But considering Jewish people cannot touch or eat pork
who will bury the Moslem in pig fat an American, by any chance?
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3488/chosen8yd.gif
1980s
There's been a bomb in Oxford Street! And in the
days before Al'Qaeda, there's only one prime suspect.
U.S.A sponsoring terrorists as always.
The U.S.A has sponsored every terrorist organisation in the world.
One way or another throughout history the U.S.A as attempted
to kill you.
http://www.itnarchive.com/video/conflict2.ram
VIDED BROADBAND
http://www.itnarchive.com/video/conflict.ram
VIdeo Modem
The only good yank is a dead yank kill the fucker and do the world a
favour.
http://media.putfile.com/On-The-Streets-Of-America-3
It shows you just how backward yanks are pathetic fucking yanks.
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Mobile phone 07906821566
http://philipdavidson.blogspot.com/
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TOPIC: Hostage in Palestine
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/596a677351a02184
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 8:20 pm
From: "Gary Renzetti"
"Deborah Sharavi" <dsharavi@Izreel.is.Angelic.com> wrote in message
news:1142894269.872364.112430@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>> Hostage in Palestine
>> sent by Dan via Andy Pollack
>> [Doug was with Voices in the Wilderness, in Iraq, when the war began in
>> March 2003. I subsequently traveled with him for 3 weeks on the Wheels
>> of
>> Justice Bus Tour in the US. He then went to Palestine to teach
>> Palestinians
>> - - for a very modest wage. -Peace, Dan]
>>
>> Hostage in Palestine
>> by Doug Johnson
>> March 15, 2006
>>
>> I'm writing you from St. Margarets hostel in Nazareth to tell you that
>> I'm
>> fine and unhurt. The president of my university insisted that all western
>> teachers leave until things "calm down," although I feel that our
>> evacuation
>> was unnecessary.
>>
>> I was abducted by about 15 young men with machine guns and pistols as I
>> was
>> leaving the university yesterday. We had been warned about an hour
>> earlier
>> by campus security that there might be reprisals against westerners due
>> to
>> the Israeli attack on a prison in Jericho. The Americans and British had
>> agreed to help safeguard the Palestinian political prisoner Ahmad Sadaat,
>> but when the Israelis came to take him, the Americans and Brits walked
>> away,
>
> Wrong. The Brits and the Yanks "walked away" BEFORE the Israelis
> arrived, due to the fact that, once again, the Pals had reneged on
> their agreement, this one regarding the terrorist prisoner.
Yeah, about FIFTEEN MINUTES before the "Isr-eli" seige so conveniently was
ready to roll. As if anybody alive is going to buy that the Zionists didn't
know EXACTLY when the observers were pulling out, and an expedition of this
size was put together and executed in that brief flash of an interval!
Debris, take it a bit easier on whatever you're using.
>
>> leaving the Palestinian police and prison guards to battle it out with
>> the
>> Israelis. Several people were killed in the fighting.
>>
>> For some in Palestine, this betrayal was the last straw. The US has
>> financed the Israeli military occupation almost from the beginning
>
> Rubbish.
No it isn't. As usual, you're bullshitting.
>
> [flush remaining load of balls]
{Restored because it's a helluva lot closer to factual than the crap Debris
wants you to swallow} - Btw Deb, do *you* swallow?
and
continues to support Israel's numerous violations of UN Resolutions,
including Resolutions 194, 242, and 338. The military enchroachment into
Palestinian land and lives has been relentless and brutal, and the people
here now find themselves imprisoned within a wall that surrounds most of the
West Bank, and some cities entirely.
Furthermore, movement inside the walls is severely restricted and most
people inside the Jenin district are confined here unless they go through
tons of red tape to get permission from Israel to travel. Even within the
confines of Jenin there are dozens of permanent checkpoints and many more
"floating checkpoints" that can pop up anywhere and turn a 15 minute drive
into an 8 hour ordeal. This happens day after day after day. It's rare
that I don't have students who show up late or don't show up at all because
of checkpoints.
During "closures" entire cities are shut down, the roads to and from the
city are blocked, and even leaving your home is prohibited, sometimes for
months at a time - except for an hour or two a week to get food. These
daily restrictions have disrupted every aspect of Palestinians' lives.
Israeli soldiers roaming Palestinian streets keep kids from going to school
and adults from going to work. The economy is destroyed and the employment
rate is through the roof.
Naturally, the reaction here ranges from frustration to desperation to rage.
Does that suprise anyone? Similar restrictions in America imposed by a
foreign power would elicit a similar range of reactions. If a neighboring
government built a wall around Louisville Kentucky and told Louisvillians
when they can and can't leave, some would hold candles on a street corner
while others would pick up arms. This is human nature. The young men who
abducted me probably felt they had no other recourse because nobody will
listen to them otherwise. Is that so hard to understand?
I'm not going to talk about the blow by blow account of the abduction. The
bottom line is that I walked away that day while several poor souls perished
in Jericho while fighting for their freedom and rights. Why is it a "story"
if some white American has a gun pointed to his head when so many others of
"color" died yesterday in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Palestine? Why doesn't CNN
call to interview their grieving families?
The leader of Al Aqsa personally intervened to help me, rode in the backseat
of a car with me as he took me back to the university, and then apologized
publicly at AAUJ to the president and the full body of foreign teachers.
When has George Bush ever apologized? Don't hold your breath.
I feel safe in Palestine, and I invite anyone who reads this to walk a mile
in the shoes of a Palestinian. Come here and see for yourself what I'm
talking about. Trust me, you won't ever see what I see on CNN.
>
> Deborah
>
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TOPIC: Lets Stop With the Auschwitz Lies.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/399c1c7c48647bb2
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 8:07 pm
From: yp
This is rather impressive. You should send this material to the
Austrian court that convicted David Irving for saying precisely the
same thing.
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:02:34 GMT, "No More Lies !" <No.Lies@Lies.No>
wrote:
>This was a work camp.
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Auschwitz.htm
>
>In total there were approximately 330,000 Jews that died
>from 1939 to 1945. Out of that 80% were natural causes,
>and 20% were war related (typhus, fighting, malnutrition,
>and general diseases).
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Deakin_University_the_holocaust.htm
>
>Anne Frank
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Anne_frank.htm
>
>Babi Yar
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Babi_Yar.htm
>
>Gold Train
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Gold_Train.htm
>
>France unoccupied
>http://judicial-inc.biz/French%20Occuption.htm
>
>Riga massacre
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Riga_massacre.htm
>
>Treblinka
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Treblinka.htm
>
>Thierstein
>http://www.judicial-inc.biz/Theirstein_Camp.htm
>
>Eisenhower
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Hopie_ike.htm
>
>Churchill
>http://judicial-inc.biz/winston_churchill_biography.htm
>
>WW 2 bloodlines
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Bush_Mossad11.htm
>
>Broomberg
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm
>
>Kristallnacht
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Kristallnacht.htm
>
>Dunkirk
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Hitler-Dunkirk.shtml
>
>Irma Grese
>http://judicial-inc.biz/Irma_Grese_by_redirect.htm
>
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 5:26 pm
From: rdubose@pdq.net
No More Lies ! wrote:
Basically, you made shit up out of thin air.
> This was a work camp.
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Auschwitz.htm
>
> In total there were approximately 330,000 Jews that died
> from 1939 to 1945. Out of that 80% were natural causes,
> and 20% were war related (typhus, fighting, malnutrition,
> and general diseases).
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Deakin_University_the_holocaust.htm
>
> Anne Frank
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Anne_frank.htm
>
> Babi Yar
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Babi_Yar.htm
>
> Gold Train
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Gold_Train.htm
>
> France unoccupied
> http://judicial-inc.biz/French%20Occuption.htm
>
> Riga massacre
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Riga_massacre.htm
>
> Treblinka
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Treblinka.htm
>
> Thierstein
> http://www.judicial-inc.biz/Theirstein_Camp.htm
>
> Eisenhower
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Hopie_ike.htm
>
> Churchill
> http://judicial-inc.biz/winston_churchill_biography.htm
>
> WW 2 bloodlines
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Bush_Mossad11.htm
>
> Broomberg
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm
>
> Kristallnacht
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Kristallnacht.htm
>
> Dunkirk
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Hitler-Dunkirk.shtml
>
> Irma Grese
> http://judicial-inc.biz/Irma_Grese_by_redirect.htm
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TOPIC: Hey U.S. Military Members: Is THIS what you signed-up for?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d3fa50b54e3f0ec7
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 8:23 pm
From: "127.0.0.1" <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1>
www.halturnershow.com
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TOPIC: hindutva terrorism, spamming addresses all over usenet!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/11e502dfbc177311
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 1:24 am
From: "Dr. Homilete"
Marcus Aurelius wrote:
> Hunter01 wrote:
>
>>Neil Boss wrote:
>>
>>>Where are you Hunter01?
>>
>>
>>Where are you nelly??? 8]
>>
>>The cowardice of the Indian hindutva, at least us Aussies have the balls
>>to use our real email addresses, you hindutva obviously never got given
>>a dick by Darwin. Good thing the REAL Indians out there evolved like the
>>rest of us. The only thing I don't like about them is they sent you over
>>here. Ok, they're smart, they got rid of you, but where is the morals in
>>passing on a problem?
>
>
> What makes genocidal aussie culture "evolved", hooter01?
> Like a chimpanzee, you keep believing in your own dreamed up version of
> reality.
> Tsk, tsk.
>
> Adi Anant
If the Aussies hadn't evolved, Suneel Shethi wouldn't be living in
Australia, adamantly refusing to leave or move to his mathrabhoomi. In
fact, he's never ever lived there, even though he tries to give the
impression that he has. He knows what it's like, and he's not willing to
make the compromises needed to move to India.
And unlike the Aussies, casteist assholes like you haven't evolved to
the point of treating fellow Indians as equal human beings.
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TOPIC: 11 PEOPLE, 1000s CATTLE, HORSES BURN ALIVE IN TEXAS FIRES
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c3dd594ebaaf4cbd
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 1:34 am
From: "Dr. Homilete"
Johnny Judas Jay "the jackass jyotishithead" Maharaj wrote:
> You say when;
> We'll do the havan.
I always suspected that both of you enjoy a good old Texas barbecue:
this just confirmed it!
> In article <If2Sf.13791$Tf3.2427@dukeread09>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
>>it's time to do a big yagya in texas.
>>
>>
>>www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>>
>>
>>>11 Dead in Texas Fires; Cattle Burn Alive
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TOPIC: Talmudistan's Rabbi Calls For Murder of Uri Avnery By IDF Terrorist
Forces
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bd8d5b775eee212e
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 5:36 pm
From: "docremington"
Theodore Herzl wrote:
> Burach Marzel, the Jewish equivalent of a mullah commonly known as a
> rabbi, has called for the murder of those whose values and principals
> differ from his and those of the ZioNazi agenda he represents.
>
Of course, Thernodore, Marzel is not a rabbi, as well as a rabbi is not
a mullah, why is that you must make stuff up?
> Previous calls by Jewish mullahs to kill PM's have resulted in the
> murder of Rabin and the vegetable state of Ariel "the Butcher" Sharon
> (may he soon rot in hell) whose doctors, through staged incompetence,
> caused the massive stroke that left Israel's leader a drooling wanted
> war criminal.
I do not understand, Thermodore, how can you be happy and unhappy at
the same time?
> Baruch Marzel: IDF must assassinate left-wing activist Uri Avnery
Avnery is, indeed, a major pest. What do you know,Themodore, he even
called a palisimian human rights group "collaborators". What good can
one expect coming from that ultraleftist crank? Besides, as coming from
the rest of the article later, Avnery does not seem to mind, if those,
who does not share his cranky ideas, are killed, does he? So, what is
the problem?
> http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/696472.html
> By Nadav Shragai, Haaretz Correspondent
> National Jewish Front leader Baruch Marzel, now campaigning for the
> March 28 Knesset election, said Monday the leaders of the Kadima party
> are "traitors" and "criminals" and called on the Israel Defense Forces
> to assassinate the far-left leader of the Gush Shalom movement Uri
> Avnery.
> Speaking Monday in Jerusalem and Ramle, Marzel said left-wing activists
> are bringing destruction upon themselves and said they sometimes harm
> the interests of Israel no less than do the country's external enemies.
> In response to comments by Avnery calling the 2001 assassination of
> cabinet minister Rehavam Ze'evi a Palestinian "targeted killing" - a
> term generally reserved for IDF strikes on terror leaders - Marzel said
> the IDF needs to target Avnery.
So, it is a typical Haaretz trick of putting a cart before the horse.
Avnery burps garbage and gets shit in return, cause and effect, not
like in the Haaretz headline and an opening paragraph.
> Marzel also said, "Traitors sit in Kadima. They betrayed their own
> principles, Judaism and Zionism."
> On Monday evening, Peace Now called on Attorney General Menachem Mazuz
> to examine Marzel's statements for suspected illegal incitement.
> "Marzel forgot that he receives immunity only if and when he is voted
> into the Knesset - not before. Marzel is doing everything he can to
> make headlines and to shock people," Peace Now said.
> In addition to attacking his political opponents, Marzel also launched
> an offensive against Israel's legal system and system of rule.
> "Israel is ruled by the junta. In the army, in the courts and in
> government there joint thinking, joint voting and joint decision
> making," Marzel said. He said the state prosecution and the High Court
> of Justice make decisions that cause "Jewish bloodshed." He also said
> that "if polling stations were placed in the Supreme Court, it is
> reasonable to assume that a coalition of MK Ahmed Tibi and Meretz would
> win."
> The far-right extremist also expressed anger at attacks by National
> Union and the National Religious Party that he said increase the
> chances he won't obtain the minimum number of votes to allow him to
> enter the Knesset.
> Marzel maintained Tuesday that polls conducted on behalf of his party
> indicate the National Jewish Front would secure five seats in the
> coming election.
> Non-partisan polls predict Marzel's party won't receive any seats.
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