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Today's topics:
* Excellence in Islamic Education: Key Issues for the Present Time - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bb9655cbf35df7a8
* IDF Establishes "Israeli Only" Crossings - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d425dd2b4ca68cf0
* WHY NOT MEIN KAMPF? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4cdc29e8f389b68c
* FBI ignored 911 warning - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c1ada38049163080
* The Media's Lies About Israel - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/fa575b84c323d1d3
* Turkey and Greece Are Friends - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/53e8145db9439a00
* Fish oil bad for the heart - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e4e88cc0858c3b06
* Find the gene that makes tortoises live so long - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/701480718dbd1532
* Cuban Conference Focuses on Elder Care - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d4af6c43149be50e
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TOPIC: Excellence in Islamic Education: Key Issues for the Present Time
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bb9655cbf35df7a8
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Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 7:28 pm
From: AnonMoos
Someone with an "excellent Muslim education" should know how to
spell "MUJAHIDDEEN"[sic] -- and should know that it's plural,
not singular!
--
المتبرجة خير
من الإرهابي
المنتحر
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
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TOPIC: IDF Establishes "Israeli Only" Crossings
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d425dd2b4ca68cf0
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Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 1:17 am
From: "DoD"
"Norma" <njb904@charter.net> wrote in message
news:ryGUf.181$fQ7.131@fe02.lga...
>
> "The State Department" <neo-liberal@weHATEbush.org> wrote in message
> news:9SEUf.6648$a97.1828@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...
>>
>> "Norma" <njb904@charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:MwEUf.104$sB5.59@fe03.lga...
>> >
>> > > Oh, I am just being a good little liberal. It was you that said
>> > Palestinians
>> > > are a people, and now look at how these people are being treated.
>> > > You
>> > seem
>> > > to want your cake and eat it too. Well it doesn't work that way in
>> > > the
>> > real
>> > > world.
>> >
>> > I don't see that you are a "good little liberal" at all.
>>
>> Sure I am ......
>>
>> I want the prime
>> > body of Palestinians to get what they want, and I know that is peace
>> > for
>> the
>> > majority of them. They don't have political experience or
> sophistication
>> > and have grabbed at straws to get the life they want. I don't think
> they
>> > knew the consequences of having a government led by Hamas at all.
>>
>> Do you really believe what you just wrote above? If I were in
>> conservative
>> mode I would be laughing my ass off at your train of thought. Now as a
>> liberal I think I will believe you.
>
> I don't care what you believe. Nor do I care what a conservative would
> think. I know they don't have a clue.
Really? You are the one who is making excuses for the Palestinians electing
Hamas.
Guess where I got all of these shitty articles that I have posted the last
few days? They certainly didn't come from conservative places. They came
from liberal websites that do nothing but bash conservatives (and Bush) all
day long. Something that you and a few others here have a tendency to do.
Nothing even constructive in your criticisms, just bash, bash, bash. And you
are very vague. It's your pathological hatred that is getting us in trouble.
You really think that the majority of Palestinians want peace and they were
naive about Hamas? Who are you trying to kid .... Norma you are so far out
there, you are dangerous. I am going to put you (and a few others) in
killfile. I hope that you do the same to me..... And not the kind that you
do to ben creamer, and then respond two weeks later. I also hope that you
have the courtesy of staying out of any threads that I start.
Thank you very much.
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TOPIC: WHY NOT MEIN KAMPF?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4cdc29e8f389b68c
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Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 1:19 am
From: "Salah Jafar"
You right, he did not finish your fucking Parasite from the face of this earth.
SJ
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TOPIC: FBI ignored 911 warning
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c1ada38049163080
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Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 1:20 am
From: Vandar
Freedom Fighter wrote:
> "Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f8nUf.3645$kg.682@news02.roc.ny...
>
>>Freedom Fighter wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Jason A. Kaatz" <jkaatz@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:IG5Uf.24534$nB6.7251@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>The building was made out of reinforced concrete. The heat generated
>>>
>>>>from the jet fuel was intense.
>>>
>>>
>>>You should read the information on the websites below.
>>>Jet fuel does not burn anywhere near hot enough to melt or soften steel,
>>>and it burned off quickly after the plane impacts.
>>>The buildings were steel frame, and no steel frame building has EVER
>>>collapsed from even the most intense fires.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yes, Clinton had signed the Al Gore Bill which lead to downsizing the DOD
>>>>which lead to base closures, a contributing factor in the response time.
>>>>
>>>>I lost a good friend in the WTC. To my knowledge there was no controlled
>>>>demolition by explosives. When the planes hits the WTC jet fuel pursed
>>>>down from the top and when it ignited it created intense heat - the rest
>>>>is history. People have a tendency to under estimate what jet fuel will
>>>>do under such conditions.
>>>
>>>
>>>Of course _to your knowledge_ there were no explosives, as you obviously
>>>have not investigated this in depth. Again, the jet fuel could not
>>>possibly have caused the collapses.
>>
>>OFFICE buildings.
>>
>>
>>>See what the experts say:
>>
>>And then he can see what the non-experts say in the links you provided.
>
>
> As usual, "expertise" is determined by whether or not the individuals in
> question agree with the Official Myth of 9/11.
Expertise is based on qualifications. Those with the qualifications
state that structural damage and fires brought dowen the buildings.
Those without the qualifications form groups with other unqualified
people and then proclaim themselves "Scholars for Truth" in the hope
that someone will buy their bullshit.
>>>9/11 documentation:
>>>http://www.st911.org/
>>>http://www.septembereleventh.org/kc/multimedia/
>>>http://911busters.com/911-Commission.html
>>>http://www.septembereleventh.org/audio.php
>>>http://911busters.com/SanFran04/index.html
>>>http://www.911truth.org/index.php?topic=gallery
>>>http://www.reopen911.org/
>>>http://www.911truth.org/
>>>http://www.911truthseekers.org/
>>>http://www.911truthseekers.org/modules/news/
>>>http://www.gnn.tv/
>>>http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf
>>>http://www.911studies.com/index.html
>>>http://www.septembereleventh.org/index.php
>>>http://infowars.com/
>>>http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
>>>http://www.mujca.com/index.htm
>>>http://proliberty.com/observer/20051213.htm
>>>http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html
>>>http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
>>>http://911review.com/
>>>http://guardian.250free.com/wtc/dust-cloud.htm
>>>http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html
>>>
>>>----------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:Y10Uf.601722$qk4.20855@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Jason A. Kaatz" <jkaatz@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Av%Tf.24453$4%1.7860@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>You might be interested in knowing that Clinton had advanced warning of
>>>>>>an attack as early as 1996 and that WTC was the target and that a plane
>>>>>>or planes would be used. The information was based on police reports
>>>>>>out of Philipeans
>>>>>
>>>>>It wasn't Clinton that caused the sophisticated NORAD aerospace defense
>>>>>system to fail abysmally on 9/11!
>>>>>
>>>>>There are TWO BASIC 9/11 ISSUES to be focused upon:
>>>>>
>>>>>1) Controlled demolition by explosives, which requires advance
>>>>>preparation, proving prior knowledge of and complicity in the attacks.
>>>>>Steel-framed building 7 was not structurally damaged by the planes and
>>>>>the small fires in it could not have accounted for its collapse. No
>>>>>steel-frame building has EVER collapsed from a fire. Deliberate,
>>>>>pre-planned explosive demolition is the ONLY explanation. This is the
>>>>>weakest link in the official coverup - and the 9/11 Commission report
>>>>>ignores building 7 entirely!
>>>>>
>>>>>2) The total failure of our sophisticated NORAD aerospace defense
>>>>>system, to the extent that such a failure could not have happened
>>>>>without it being intentional.
>>>>>
>>>>>These issues and these alone are valid grounds to demand a new and
>>>>>independent investigation of this mass-murderous crime against
>>>>>humanity - the most evil deed ever perpetrated against the American
>>>>>people. Should those responsible be allowed to get away with it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
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TOPIC: The Media's Lies About Israel
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/fa575b84c323d1d3
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Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 5:22 pm
From: "DoD"
[God, that felt good] Sorry to dissapoint you Alex......
Frontpage Interview's guest today is Stephanie Gutmann, the author of the
new book The Other War: Israelis, Palestinians and the Struggle for Media
Supremacy. She has been a journalist for about sixteen years, as a staffer
and a freelancer, writing for publications ranging from the New Republic and
the New York Times to Cosmopolitan and Playboy. She was the New York Post's
education reporter for the year 1993-94. She is the author of The Kinder,
Gentler Military (Scribner, 2000) which was on the New York Times' list of
notable non-fiction for 2000. In 2001, the book was published in paperback
by Encounter with the subtitle "How Political Correctness Affects Our
Ability to Win Wars."
FP: Stephanie Guttmann, welcome to Frontpage Interview.
Gutmann: Thank you.
FP: I want to talk to you today about your expertise: the media's lies about
Israel. Let's begin, briefly, with what your book, The Other War: Israelis,
Palestinians and the Struggle for Media Supremacy, is about.
Gutmann: The book is two pronged--it is about Israel (about the second
intifada and about the Israeli government's growing awareness that it needed
to engage in the media war as well as on the ground) but it is also about
the hazards of modern journalism.
By modern journalism I mean information collection and presentation assisted
by the satellite disc and satellite phone, by the TV camera, the digital
camera, and particularly the internet (including Nexis and the photo image
banks.)
These new tools have the power to send bad information--usually deceptive
images--not so much words, rocketing around the globe. In less than an hour
the news consumer can be blanketed in bad information, and an individual or
a country libelled and slandered at truly breathtaking speed.
What the new electronic tools do is remove the need for reporters to
actually report, i.e. to go somewhere and look for themselves. That was no
guarantee with the old shoe leather methods that they'd do their utmost to
present what they believed to be the truth to their audience--but it helped.
As a retired CBS producer I quote in my book put it, " a lot of journalism
[these days is] construction. An editor in New York decides what the story
is [my italics], sends the word out to bureaus that we need a sound bite
from this or that type of person saying this or that, gathers up picture
coverage supplied by freelancers or agencies, and writes a script that is
narrated by a 'reporter' who hasn't been within 500 miles of the story."
The crucial thing about construction (of a print story as well as a TV
segment) is that it makes journalism a series of choices, even more than it
has always been. The finished piece that emerges on the page or the screen,
in other words, has not been dictated by the reality on the ground, as much
as by a reporters' or producers' series of decisions about what they believe
is important for their audience to know. They have cut and pared and
discarded and ordered up and bit of this or a bit of that (one of this
flavor of expert, and one of those sorts of quotes.) Of course that process
is going to be biased in one way or another -- how can it not be? This is a
product shaped by human hands. News consumers can restore some equilibrium
by noting that this story is from say Fox which has one leaning and that one
is from the New York Times which leans another way, except that immediacy of
satellite and digital et al tends to make people think they are getting the
straight dope, unadulterated. When in fact what they are getting is simply
a better facsimile of reality.
FP: Ok, so connect this to Israel for us.
Gutmann: In the early days of what we call the "second intifada" (a term I
do not like, by the way, but must use for brevity) Israel was getting mugged
on the world stage by the PLO/PA regime's skilful manipulation of imagery.
One of the PLO/PA's most effective tools, of course, was the child who was
willing to bleed for the cameras--and they were able to produce a steady
stream of these with indoctrination training that being a shaheed (a martyr)
was the best sort of "life" one could have. It was working.
I was struck by the passion and conviction of people I'd meet on the
street--this conviction that they knew exactly what was going on. A social
worker I know said that "Israel must not want peace, because all I see is
them killing children." A Manhattan stockbroker told me that Palestinians
were rioting because "they have nothing: no schools, no hospitals, nothing."
I assured him that I knew from direct observation that all these things
exist in the territories and he snapped "Well, I have never seen them." A
woman at my gym on the Upper West Side told me she'd never considering
visiting Israel because of its barbarity to the Palestinians. "They
brutalize them and take their land; Are you telling me the cameras don't
lie."
FP: Tell us where you think your interest in media distortion began and how
you ended up getting involved in the Israeli issue in this context.
Gutmann: Press distortion is a subject I've found myself always circling
back to in my writing. My master's project for Columbia University
Journalism School dissected, debunked and deconstructed one of the media's
crisis du jour, that of an epidemic of something they dubbed date rape which
was supposedly ravaging campuses. It was fascinating to sort of untangle
that one, like tracking down the origination of a rumor.
My first book--the Kinder, Gentler Military, about the collusion between a
traditional military culture and the new politically correct, feminist
civilian one, was indirectly about media distortion. Here again the US
military was mugged by distorted coverage. I spend a chapter for instance
looking at the misreporting of the Tailhook convention of 1991 which has
been encased in amber as an event in which hundreds of innocent women were
raped and abused by drunken sailors and Marines.
So, in early 2000 at the outbreak of the second intifada, I saw this odd
process working again. The tide to really take the subject on was finally
turned in October of 2000 when an odd little story appeared on, like, page A
9 of the New York Times. It was about an Italian TV producer named Roberto
Christiano who had written a letter which ended up published on the front
page of Al-Hayat Al-Jadeeda, a PA-run daily newspaper for the West Bank.
The writer seemed to be trying to dissociate himself and state-run Italian
station from the news clips of Israeli soldiers being lynched in Ramallah
(images that briefly turned the tide of public opinion in Israel's favor.)
The letter was addressed to "my friends in the Palestinian community" He
regretted that a "public impression had been created that we took the
pictures" while in fact it had been another station, a "commercial station"
he pointed out, one "that competes with us." "You can be sure that this
is not our way of acting and that we would never do such a thing..We always
respect the journalistic rules of the Palestinian Authority when we work in
Palestine."
Were there journalistic rules for working in Palestine and were they
affecting what one saw and read? Six years ago this was not so obvious as
it is now. So I went to Israel to look at rules of engagement, as it were,
for covering the intifada. Eventually I realized there was enough there for
a book and I came back again for five months in 2002.
FP: What methods did you use in your research?
Gutmann: I used the only reliable journalistic method--which I call heavy
hanging out, going to a place and living there as much as possible, without
looking like a journalist. You just sort of have to become part of the
landscape. The minute you begin to scurry around waving a note pad you
change the thing you've come to write about. You don't really need to do
so much of those journalisty things like interviews anyway. Behavior tells
volumes more than words, so it's better to sit back and watch--preferably as
the proverbial "fly on the wall."
I know all this sounds like pretty basic stuff, but one simple reason
reporting of the Middle East is so bad is that--out of fear--reporters feel
the need to identify themselves--with armored cars, with bullet proof vests,
with signs saying "press" and "TV" plastered all over themselves. In many
cases this is what keeps them from getting shot, on the other hand, they
change the environment; people quite literally perform and stage things for
cameras. Everyone knows that during the second intifada a lot of the rock
throwing demonstrations wouldn't start until an appropriately large audience
of press arrived. And the infamous al-Dura incident looks more and more
like it was actually an elaborate set up.
What one sees and hears is also very dependent in the territories on the
fixer one inevitably hires. There is a whole of flotilla of Palestinian
pros who have been trained for the express purpose of squiring foreign press
around and, as they put it, "making sure they get the Palestinian
story"--which essentially always meant the PLO/P.A. Arafat regime story. I
couldn't afford a pro so I drafted a complete neophyte into service. He was
very bright, multi-lingual and had grown up in Ramallah but he was not
schooled in the art of taking foreign journalists on Potemkin tours so he
just said what he thought.
Instead of visiting officials and pundits we went broke up our long drives
with visits to his family and friends who were scattered all over the West
Bank. I think I got a far more nuanced view this way. The one thing I got
earfuls of was the rage on "the Arab street" at Yasser Arafat. The PA
leadership were crooks, Mafiosi. One restaurant owner even demanded that I
tell him why the US had not "taken out Arafat" (who he called a crook.)
"You take out Sadaam; why not Arafat!," he said in an injured tone.
It was a bizarre experience because the mainstream media was still (this was
fall of 2002) calling Arafat "the voice of the Palestinian people", "the
symbol of their aspirations" and so on. What a joke! Mostly I heard rage.
Anyone who spent significant time away from the smooth talkers of Fatah and
the P.A.--was not surprised by the Hamas win and also not all that
distressed by it.
FP: You are not distressed by the Hamas victory? You think Hamas is not that
bad?
Gutmann: Oh they are that bad. If you want to see evil personified watch
the otherwise-pretty obnoxious-documentary directed by Death in Gaza. The
director is Afghani which makes her look Arab and so she was able to gain
the trust of a Hamas cell which let her in to film what amounts to a
recruiting session of boys about age nine. They use every repulsive
indoctrination technique in the book--they hug them, chuck them under the
chin, let them play with automatic rifles and then send them out to be used
to do advance work for attacks.
But I do not think the Palestinian rank and file, by and large, are on the
same page as Hamas. They had a huge desire to punish Fatah/the PA, they
wanted just distribution of aid money. If there had been a viable
alternative to Hamas, they would have voted for it. I do not believe that
ordinary Palestinians voted for Hamas for the most anti-Zionist part of its
platform.
In the end Hamas will do them no good and another one of the tragedies of
the area is that if the international press corps had done its duty and
exposed the corruption of the PA (I don't mean just a story here and a story
there) but really hammered it the way they hammered, say, Abu Gharib, the
Palestinians wouldn't have been stuck with this terrible choice.
FP: So in some ways, the victory of Islamo-Fascists in the Palestinian
parliamentary elections is the child of the media?
Gutmann: Yes, in a way, the foreign press used the Palestinian rank and file
for their own ends--to appear as stock figures in their passion play--just
as the governments of other Arab states have.
FP: In general, why do you think anti-Semitism and Israel-Hatred has become
such a chic and cutting-edge thing for the Left and the mainstream media?
Gutmann: This is complicated question--because the motivations of left wing
media and mainstream media are different. Anti-Zionism has been a standard
part of the leftist platform since at least the early seventies But there
is a sort of more banal evil operating in the MSM. I can't go into all of
it here (you will have to read my book.)
But one of the reasons that Israel is routinely crucified is that
journalists take the path of least resistance in the quest for a "good
story"--defined as one with blood, human conflict, striking visuals and an
extractable up/down, bad/good story line. The dirty little secret of the
media war is that Israel is an extremely easy place to place bureaus so you
can get a steady pipeline of that kind of story. Here's an example: Ted
Koppel had a big success in the 80s with a Nightline series on South African
apartheid. Naturally after he'd fixed South Africa--as he seems to be
suggesting in the memoir where he explains all this--he began looking around
for "the next South Africa", "another conflict with international relevance,
with complexities.and with parties willing to debate" "I suppose
theoretically we could have done something with the Iranians and the
Iraqis," he muses, "but that would have been such a huge problem in terms of
language and such a huge problem in terms of getting permission to travel
around the country and shoot." (Not to mention the problem of having your
reporters kidnapped and shot and so on.)
One day while watching rioting Palestinians facing IDF soldiers on TV he had
an A-ha! Moment: He decided he had "found South Africa II.It was Israel.
The equivalent of Bishop Tutu versus Foreign Minister Botha would be the
Palestinians versus the Israelis."
A writer in the Columbia Journalism Review rhapsodized that the
Israeli/Palestinian conflict "is a beat that commands world attention
and .offers reporters unparalleled exposure" with the added advantage that
war correspondents "don't need to travel far.the West Bank city of Bethlehem
is only a ten minute drive from Jerusalem" (And the Santa Monica-like,
tree-lined streets of its German Quarter where so many foreign press live.)
His friend Jennifer Griffin of Fox News, for example, the CJR writer crows,
"has managed a feat that would be impossible anywhere else, to be a war
correspondent and a new mother." "It's a nine to five war you can cover and
still be home in time for dinner at night, said Griffith. "I've gone out
the door with a flak jacket and a breast pump."
FP: Stephanie Gutmann, thank you for joining us today.
Gutmann: Thank you Jamie.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21764
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TOPIC: Turkey and Greece Are Friends
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/53e8145db9439a00
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Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 5:22 pm
From: "Frau Panta Mime"
Panta Rhei wrote:
> Frau Panta Mime writes:
>
> > Mmmmmm Hmmmmmmm
> >
> > And Weenie Beanie rhymes with ................................?????
> >
> > *LMFAOAY*
> >
> > Mwahahahahahahahahahaha what an Arschloch
> >
> > PWNAGE !
> >
> > BTW, you should HEAR the bitch squeal, it's COMICAL in the extreme
> >
> > Hoeren sie es
> >
> > http://media.putfile.com/panty49
> >
> > Here.....
> >
> > http://media.putfile.com/pants-awry
> >
> > Und auch hier ..........
> >
> > http://media.putfile.com/roman-zee-chermann96
>
> <BG> BG = BUGGERED by GREEKS Poor, helpless, little idiot!
>
> Who was he who bitchslapped you so much that you became what you are now,
What kind of fackin PIDJIN is that you DUMB pseudo-germanic DULLARD ?
*ROTFFLMFAOAY*
"Who was he who" (sic)??? Mbouuuuuhahahahahahahahahahaaaarrrrr you
unitelligible tosser
> poor, devastated, whining, little idiot? Who only? LMAO!
*LOL* "Who only" (sic) WTFF ? top pidjin ! you are koku's bastard
sister
FFS Gayson speaks better English than this PWNTsa fucktard
>
> Your masterbating, turk obsessed housebound gardening hand von DRESDEN
>
> Pantsa nicht DRhei
>
> --
> Living the life of a ridiculed, bitchslapped loony on usenet helps Beanie Rhyme mit Seanie und Weenie in mine krankenkopf
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TOPIC: Fish oil bad for the heart
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e4e88cc0858c3b06
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Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 5:19 pm
From: hi@anony (habshi)
What does work is reducing weight . Waist size of over 100cm
measured at the belly button is deadly . Increase to 120cm causes a 60
fold rise in incidence of diabetes (110cm in south asians) and
reducing it to 90cm cuts it by the same amount.
When I was at University I was taught never to accept anything
without evidence , not even the existence of non existent god.
excerpts
Whiny child will be an adult Tory, says study
Published: 24 March 2006
Depending on your political predilections, you have double reason to
be worried if you find your school-age child tends to be the whiny,
sit-at-the-back-of-the-class kind. You had better get the child's
confidence level up a notch or you may have a future conservative in
your nest.
..
Insurgent doctor killed dozens of wounded soldiers
Published: 23 March 2006
When policemen, soldiers and officials in Kirkuk who were injured in
insurgent attacks arrived in the emergency room of the hospital, they
hoped their chances of surviving had gone up as doctors tended their
wounds.
indpendent.co.uk
Until three years ago, cumulative evidence showed a benefit from omega
3 fats, but a major study called the DART-2 trial published in 2003
changed the overall picture. It included more than 3,000 men and
showed a higher heart death rate in those taking fish oil capsules.
Many consumers take fish oil capsules, which are enriched with
vitamins A, D and E, for their joints, skin and hair, but the study
did not examine their effect on these.
The potential of omega 3 fats taken as supplements for preventing
memory loss and dementia in elderly people is currently being tested,
with results due in 2008.
In addition to oily fish, which contain long chain omega 3 fats,
shorter chain omega 3 fats found in some plant oils are also thought
to be good for health. But the review found no effect of either kind.
The findings, by researchers from the School of Medicine at the
University of East Anglia, are published in the online edition of the
British Medical Journal today.
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TOPIC: Find the gene that makes tortoises live so long
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/701480718dbd1532
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 5:19 pm
From: hi@anony (habshi)
Why does a sloth die soon while a tortoise live so long?
Does the latter have more hdl ? Find the gene that is different in
them and you may have a clue to immortality.
excerpt
Clive of India's tortoise dies aged 250
ARUNDHATI RAY
IN CALCUTTA
HE WAS reputedly owned by the imperial hero Clive of India, lived
through the industrial revolution, the Napoleonic wars and the space
age, but yesterday Adwaitya, the world's oldest tortoise, finally
tired of life after more than 250 years.
The giant aldabra tortoise died in Calcutta Zoo of liver failure,
taking all the secrets of an existence spanning three centuries with
him.
"Historical records show he was a pet of British general Robert Clive
of the East India Company and had spent several years in his sprawling
estate before he was brought to the zoo about 130 years ago," said
Jogesh Barman, the West Bengal forest minister.
"We have documents to prove that he was more than 150 years old, but
we have pieced together other evidence, like statements from authentic
sources and it seems he is more than 250 years old."
Details about the tortoise's early life showed that British sailors
had brought him from the Seychelles and presented him to Clive, who
was rising fast in the East India Company's military hierarchy, the
minister said.
If Adwaitya's age is proved by planned carbon-dating of his shell, he
will take the longest-lived crown from another tortoise with
connections to empire.
Tui Malila, who was presented to the Tongan royal family by Captain
Cook, in either 1773 or 1777, remained in their care until its death
from natural causes in 1965. This means Tui Malila was at least either
188 or 192 years old.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=457742006
..
Some flies last only a couple of days, while a termite queen can
survive for 30 years.
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TOPIC: Cuban Conference Focuses on Elder Care
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d4af6c43149be50e
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 23 2006 5:26 pm
From: "Crusader"
Boy.....you really have a penchant for irony..
"Bob" <bob@bob.org> wrote in message news:dvtda9$gbc$0@pita.alt.net...
> Leo J Callaghan wrote:
>> On 22 Mar 2006 13:52:52 -0800, "Archie" <akenn100@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A long time ago Castro said, "History will absolve us".
>>
>> bad translation; fidel said bury. communism has been buried elsewhere.
>> fidel and his sub-human blood suckers are the living dead.
>
> In Latin America, Communism is victorious! Cuba has one of the lowest
> rates of malnutrition in the Hemisphere, has the lowest infant mortality
> and the longest life expectancy. They have more doctors per capita than
> any nation on Earth. They are one of the best-fed populations in the
> Americas.
>
> All Cubans have a job; there is no unemployment, and if there is, they get
> a check. There is housing for all Cubans - no homeless, no cardboard
> shacks. Cuba has the best health care system and the best educational
> system in the Americas. Almost all Cubans have plumbing, electricity,
> clean water, transportation and access to cultural events. Cuba feeds
> every one of its citizens. What has failed the Americas is capitalism.
>
> East Bloc Communism was competing with West European social democracy
> (socialism) and social democracy (socialism) beat Communism over there.
> But there is no real social democracy (socialism) in the Americas - there
> is only a malignant and deformed oligarchic semi-feudalism posing as
> capitalism. As long as capitalism continues to fail the Americas, Cuban
> Communism will continue to kick ass in Latin America.
>>
>> and ahh, archee, history doesn't do anything. it is made up by the
>> winners. and your gang are the losers. so for one point, if communism is
>> so swell how cum you lost the cold
>> war?
>
> See above. Socialism beat Communism is Europe and Eurasia. So what? Isn't
> it interesting how socialist China, with its exploding economy, is taking
> the world by storm?
>
> or are you 16 yrs old and don't have any knowledge (or interest
>> or ability) to know what happened before you were born? give it up.
>> communism lost the cold war. full stop. you are dead
>> archee, lie down and stop stinkin' up the place with dead commie
>> stink. it may be ok in your trailer but out here, amongst the humans,
>> not so good.
>
> In Latin America, Cuban Communism is kicking ass on backwards oligarchic
> capitalism.
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