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Sunday, April 02, 2006
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Today's topics:

* CALL THEM BY THEIR NAME: TERRORISTS - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b81a9ba554aa50b0
* Jorge Mas Canosa=Terrorist - 7 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/679dbccfae7a85d
* WSJ: Why Not Liberate the American Worker - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dff0702be9d23a69
* BONKERS BOLTON BLARES BUSH BULLSHIT - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a47c3a4511937d3f
* Remmembering Communists - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/83588655001d1159
* Do you want to see photo's from Velsen, the Netherlands - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dcf6ac286bad6b31
* Anti-porn activists seeking new tactics to fight porn deluge - 2 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6dd21ba0c226b915
* Space mirrors can provide all the energy humankind will ever need - 2
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ee45821bf6b96dae

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TOPIC: CALL THEM BY THEIR NAME: TERRORISTS
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b81a9ba554aa50b0
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 3 2006 2:10 am
From: Purple Microdot

serwad wrote...
> Maybe we should have bounty on the fucking Jews!

It's amazing how you took a debate on illegal immigration from Mexico
and turned into an attack on Jews.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:32 pm
From: "NefeshBarYochai"

>purple microdot wrote:

>It's amazing how you took a debate on illegal immigration from Mexico
>and turned into an attack on Jews.

I remember that purple microdot in the 70's. As far as LSD goes the
stuff the were killing us with was rather mild.

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TOPIC: Jorge Mas Canosa=Terrorist
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/679dbccfae7a85d
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:11 pm
From: "Miguel"

torresD wrote:
> "Miguel" <michaelgayoso1948@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1144028342.951172.231050@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB153/19650713.pdf
>
> > Dorotea,
>
> > Estas mas loca que una chiva.
> Como exlicas ese documento, Miguelito?

Y tu le crees a la CIA? Vaya Caray! Nunca pense que una aduladora del
tirano Castro sacara un documento de la CIA y lo enviara como si fuera
la Biblia. No conoces del Pacto Kennedy Khrushchev? Despues de ese
pacto, las organizaciones de inteligencia norteamericanas se dedicaron
a desprestigiar a todos los que luchaban contra el tirano Castro.
>
> > Jorge Mas Canosa fue un gran cubano. Que Dios lo tenga en la gloria!
> >
> > La Fundacion Cubano-Americana sigue adelante hasta la victoria.
> >
> > Para mis hermanos latinos:
> >
> > http://www.canf.org/2005/principal.htm
>
>
> Jorge Mas Canosa fue el fundador financiero de Luis Posada Carriles
> y Orlando Bosch.

Todo lo contrario.
>
> Quiere que te de la lista de las bombas que los Cubanos/Terrorista
> explotaron en los EE.UU?
>
> Yo se que te la sabes de memoria.

Si envialas que yo te enviare todos los actos terroristas del tirano
castro.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:28 pm
From: "trabaninoscar@yahoo.com"

LATINO-AMERICANO HERMANO, CUIDA TU FAMILIA, TU PATRIA, TU CULTURA !!

DENUNCIA CON LAS AUTORIDADES LOCALES CUALQUIER GUSANO TERRORISTA !! !

NO A LA CULTURA DEL ODIO !

NO MAS POSADAS CARRILES EN NUESTRO CONTINENTE !!!

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:28 pm
From: "trabaninoscar@yahoo.com"

LATINO-AMERICANO HERMANO, CUIDA TU FAMILIA, TU PATRIA, TU CULTURA !!

DENUNCIA CON LAS AUTORIDADES LOCALES CUALQUIER GUSANO TERRORISTA !! !

NO A LA CULTURA DEL ODIO !

NO MAS POSADAS CARRILES EN NUESTRO CONTINENTE !!!

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:28 pm
From: "trabaninoscar@yahoo.com"

LATINO-AMERICANO HERMANO, CUIDA TU FAMILIA, TU PATRIA, TU CULTURA !!

DENUNCIA CON LAS AUTORIDADES LOCALES CUALQUIER GUSANO TERRORISTA !! !

NO A LA CULTURA DEL ODIO !

NO MAS POSADAS CARRILES EN NUESTRO CONTINENTE !!!

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:28 pm
From: "trabaninoscar@yahoo.com"

LATINO-AMERICANO HERMANO, CUIDA TU FAMILIA, TU PATRIA, TU CULTURA !!

DENUNCIA CON LAS AUTORIDADES LOCALES CUALQUIER GUSANO TERRORISTA !! !

NO A LA CULTURA DEL ODIO !

NO MAS POSADAS CARRILES EN NUESTRO CONTINENTE !!!

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:28 pm
From: "trabaninoscar@yahoo.com"

LATINO-AMERICANO HERMANO, CUIDA TU FAMILIA, TU PATRIA, TU CULTURA !!

DENUNCIA CON LAS AUTORIDADES LOCALES CUALQUIER GUSANO TERRORISTA !! !

NO A LA CULTURA DEL ODIO !

NO MAS POSADAS CARRILES EN NUESTRO CONTINENTE !!!

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:28 pm
From: "trabaninoscar@yahoo.com"

LATINO-AMERICANO HERMANO, CUIDA TU FAMILIA, TU PATRIA, TU CULTURA !!

DENUNCIA CON LAS AUTORIDADES LOCALES CUALQUIER GUSANO TERRORISTA !! !

NO A LA CULTURA DEL ODIO !

NO MAS POSADAS CARRILES EN NUESTRO CONTINENTE !!!

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TOPIC: WSJ: Why Not Liberate the American Worker
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dff0702be9d23a69
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:12 pm
From: "Capt. Bill"

Usuck wrote:

>Correction, poor decisions by union bosses thinking they can carry out
>their program of greed forever. So now the union guys are going to get
>their just rewards for driving jobs out of the US.

One, there are no union bosses.
Two, Management makes the deicision to send jobs overseas.
Three, more non-union jobs than union jobs are being sent overseas
becasue even the non-union workers can not live in America on the pay
received in foreign countries.
Four, you hate American workers since you always are happy when union
and non-union American jobs go overseas.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:24 pm
From: Screw The Union

Capt. Bill wrote:
> Usuck wrote:
>
>
>>Correction, poor decisions by union bosses thinking they can carry out
>>their program of greed forever. So now the union guys are going to get
>>their just rewards for driving jobs out of the US.
>
>
>
> One, there are no union bosses.

Did John Sweeney submit his resignation?

> Two, Management makes the deicision to send jobs overseas.

Only after union bosses have driven the jobs out ofnthe USAwit their
exorbitant demands

> Three, more non-union jobs than union jobs are being sent overseas
> becasue even the non-union workers can not live in America on the pay
> received in foreign countries.

I'm non-union, and I can live quite well here in the USA with what I'm paid.

> Four, you hate American workers since you always are happy when union
> and non-union American jobs go overseas.
>

I'm happy when unions get their comeuppance

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TOPIC: BONKERS BOLTON BLARES BUSH BULLSHIT
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a47c3a4511937d3f
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 10:15 pm
From: "serwad"

Bolton Really Is Bonkers
by Gordon Prather
"This is a real test for the Security Council. There's just no doubt that
for close to 20 years, the Iranians have been pursuing nuclear weapons
through a clandestine program that we've uncovered.

"If the U.N. Security Council can't deal with the proliferation of nuclear
weapons, can't deal with the greatest threat we have with a country like
Iran - that's one of the leading state sponsors of terrorism - if the
Security Council can't deal with that, you have a real question of what it
can deal with."

Thus spake Bonkers Bolton, Bush's Ambassador to the United Nations, on the
eve of UN Security Council debate on what to do with the "Iranian Dossier"
the Director-General of the International Atomic Energy Agency had forwarded
them at the request of the IAEA Board of Governors.

As required by the Treaty on Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, Iran
concluded in 1974 a Safeguards Agreement with the International Atomic
Energy Agency wherein Iran agreed to allow IAEA inspectors to satisfy
themselves that no "source or special nuclear materials" are being used or
have been used in furtherance of a nuclear weapons program.

Director-General ElBaradei reported to the IAEA Board just last month [.pdf]
that no declared source or special nuclear materials had been used in
furtherance of a nuclear weapons program, but that "the Agency is not at
this point in time in a position to conclude that there are no undeclared
nuclear materials or activities in Iran."

Contrary to Bonkers Bolton, the Iranian dossier makes it clear that the IAEA
has never uncovered any evidence whatsoever that Iran is now pursuing or has
ever pursued a nuclear weapons program.

And, of course, whether Iran is - or is not - a leading state sponsor of
terrorism is none of the IAEA's beeswax.

So, how did the Security Council deal with a report whose principal
conclusion was that the IAEA would need more time before finally concluding
that there is no evidence to uncover?

Well, they noted with "serious concern" that after more than two years of
intrusive inspections the Agency was still not in a position to conclude
that Iran had declared all its activities that should have been declared.

Now, that's obviously not what Bolton wanted or expected.

No Security Council resolution.

Not even a Presidential Statement declaring Iran "in violation of its NPT
obligations."

No suggestion that Iranian behavior "constituted a threat to international
peace and security."

In fact, the only concrete action the Council took was to "call on" Iran to
resume cooperating with ElBaradei, as before.

Moreover, by emphasizing "the necessity of the IAEA continuing its work to
clarify all outstanding issues relating to Iran's nuclear programme," the
Council even implied that the dossier was not properly a subject for
Security Council consideration.

However, they did call on ElBaradei to produce another report in 30 days on
how things were going and to send them a copy.

So, Bolton emerged from the final negotiating session to claim the Council
was sending an unmistakable message to Iran that
"This is simply a statement that says to Iran, you have consistently
disobeyed resolutions of the International Atomic Energy Agency, violated
your safeguards agreements, you've violated the Nuclear Nonproliferation
Treaty, you must now come into compliance, and if in 30 days that hasn't
happened, and we expect a report from the IAEA director general, in 30 days
the Security Council will be competent and ready to act."

Now, the Presidential Statement, which was agreed to by both Russia and
China, doesn't say any of those things.

If it did, neither Russia or China would have agreed to it.

So, why does Bolton keep making such outrageous claims that are so obviously
untrue and so easily determined - by anyone who doesn't have a reading
comprehension problem - to be without foundation?

And more to the point, why don't the domestic and international news
"reporters" challenge Bolton when he makes such obviously untrue claims?

Well, at least they're reporting that the Bush-Cheney administration, which
has repeatedly called Iran the biggest single threat to American security,
intends to use this month to raise the consciousness about the nature of
that threat.

In particular, Condi has reportedly urged the other permanent council
members and Germany to take into account at next month's Security Council
meeting Iran's calls for Israel to be "wiped off the map," as well as its
support for Syria and Hizbollah in Lebanon.

Now, why does that not surprise us?

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TOPIC: Remmembering Communists
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/83588655001d1159
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:23 pm
From: "bmarjanovich@iprimus.ca"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4864742.stm

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TOPIC: Do you want to see photo's from Velsen, the Netherlands
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dcf6ac286bad6b31
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:29 pm
From: "captain."

"OudWijf" <oudwijf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:442ec0ad$0$99256$dbd43001@news.wanadoo.nl...
> Do you want to see photo's from Velsen, the Netherlands
> --
> Rondje Velsen
> http://www.huurling.com/steden/velsen.htm
>

yes, i think i would.

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TOPIC: Anti-porn activists seeking new tactics to fight porn deluge
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6dd21ba0c226b915
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:35 pm
From: Richard Herr Harder

In article <9890325a6mb1u5ingju4oqu81koro0cv7j@news2>,
pass the pr0n <amenbro@pass.it> wrote:

> Another self-described former addict is Phil Burress, head of a
> Cincinnati-based conservative group called Citizens for Community Values.
>
> Like many conservatives, he had hopes that the Bush administration would
> reverse Clinton White House policy and step up prosecutions of adult-porn
> obscenity cases as well as child porn cases. Thus far, Burress is
> disappointed.
>
> "Five years into this administration, they get an F," he said.
>
> Still, Burress is encouraged by the recent formation of an FBI
> anti-obscenity squad and the appointment of Brent Ward, a former U.S.
> attorney who combatted porn in Utah, to head an obscenity prosecution task
> force.
>
> The Justice Department defends its record, saying it has indicted dozens of
> people on obscenity charges since 2001 and suggesting the pace will
> increase. But with a vast array of potential targets, and many other
> priorities, prosecutors must choose their battles carefully.
>
> One pending case involves obscenity charges against a California couple
> whose company sold pornographic videos depicting simulated rape and murder.
> The charges carry a maximum penalty of 50 years in prison plus $7.5 million
> in fines.

Great, stupid fundy fucks want to ruin it for everyone. Want to know
what a fundy fuck is like? Look at the taliban!!

PS: I do admit adult spam is a big problem. That where our tax money
should be spent, not with what these fundy fucks want

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:38 pm
From: Richard Herr Harder

In article <keudnYkZhf9P163ZRVn-gg@comcast.com>,
"Barbi Satin" <jk21tr323212@c53omcast.net> wrote:

> The man is 100% right. WE must get rid of all that filthy pornography! Once
> it is gone we can then burn those pro witch Potter books! The we can make
> anything that offends anyone illegal. Won't you feel more free and more
> American then?

Yeah, I think we should have some of those taliban leaders head up our
fbi and other agencies.

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TOPIC: Space mirrors can provide all the energy humankind will ever need
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ee45821bf6b96dae
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:46 pm
From: "CWatters"

"habshi" <hi@anony> wrote in message news:443062a1.3824459@news.clara.net...
> On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:24:29 GMT, "CWatters"
> <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote:
> >
> How much energy would that take to dig I wonder?
>>
>> Where would you put the dirt? Can't dump it in the sea!<
>
> You make mountains of the dirt or use them in houses , roads
> etc.

Yeah right. Kids these days have no sense of scale.... I calculate it would
take the worlds largest earth moving machine around 1 MILLION YEARS to move
that much dirt.

The sums...

India has an area of 2973190 square kilometers so you are talking about
moving say 200,000 cubic kilometers of dirt (assuming 200 meters deep and
1/3rd the area as you suggested). According to Google the worlds largest
earth mover can move 750,000 cubic meters a day. Thats equivelent to 100,000
large dump trucks!.... but that's only 0.00075 cubic kilometers. Divide
200,000 by 0.00075 and... It would take 276,000,000 days plus some down time
for maintenance and week ends off! Call it 365,000,000 days or 1 Million
years.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 7:47 pm
From: "CWatters"

"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
news:400Yf.352152$sZ.10438764@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
> Yeah right. Kids these days have no sense of scale.... I calculate it
would
> take the worlds largest earth moving machine around 1 MILLION YEARS to
move
> that much dirt.

Photo of said machine is here....

http://www.test-net.com/earthmover/

it cost $100 Million dollars.

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