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Thursday, April 13, 2006

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Today's topics:

* Mexicans flock to US border as hopes rise over work permits - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/795c1cb73b08c08c
* Ali Asker, A PKK Terrorists Living Off British Taxpayers Goodwill In Befast,
UK - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/167a70662c7b9044
* Myanmar declares 4 unlawful associations as terrorist organizations - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bb74ee0b4bd7c7f6
* Bush Defector to Demolish 9/11 Big Lie in Madison - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d460c3faf7472955
* Iran asked help from Turkey to eliminate PKK - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5be3152b906bc6c0
* THERMITE USED IN WTC DEMOLITION - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b5dc051ba7c1a4a9
* WAR IS A RACKET - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/527e844bc1d753b7
* There Are Criminals, and Then There Are Criminals - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/50ef8615cbe980ba
* YES! WIPE IT OFF! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/23bfb91fb8bac2e1
* USA should learned from the Jooz - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a8a629a0f4fee2f7
* EL CRIMEN DE PIEDRA - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ddcfcc4382eb4de
* AN INDEPENDENT COMPROMISE BILL TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ae1bf8f474918554
* If Moses can devided the river, why can he find his way to the promise land -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cf06912950880e6c
* Colorado: Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout. - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f1882ac30dc275
* Senator Chuck Hagel wants a nuclear 911 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c71f65b23b999a66

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TOPIC: Mexicans flock to US border as hopes rise over work permits
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/795c1cb73b08c08c
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Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 4:14 am
From: "Tx Max King"

"Don Gabacho" <jpastore@nettaxi.com> wrote in message

> By the time these events begin, Global Bush Unlimited itself will have
> established itself in a new home---a new base of operations: the
> ultimate Gated (by the Caribbean Sea) Community, both all exclusive
> while all-inclusive: Cuba (renamed Isla Arubsto), with its capital for
> itself and subsidiaries: Havana (renamed Columba).

If you are one of those 'Bush is the illegitimate father of all my
problems' type, then you are the problem.

I have to keep reminding all of my
liberal minded friends in high places that if you reduce the problems
to blaming Democrats or Republicans, then you are missing the issues
and you will never resolve anything. Our problems are WAY beyond
Democrat or Republican. Concentrate on the issues and you will find
solutions. Minimize the serious issues as 'it's the Republicans' or
'it's the Democrats' and you will only create divisiveness and conflict
and you will get nowhere. Generalizing an issue based on party
affiliation is as racist as blaming problems on a race, creed or gender.

Besides, I'm working on annexing Cuba as the 51'st State in the

Union. It just fell off the coast of the State of Texas anyway.

I'm redesigning the flag too. I've added a blue star inside the

single white star. It represents democracy in federal blue

rising above the whoring of the flag by the commies.

We've got to be ready for the de-revolution.

I have friends that are thinking about taking over parts of

Mexico, too. They're very rich. Hey, you gotta start small, right?

We plan to start by taking over the drug plantations

and growing alternate fuel crops. After we convert

enough plantations, it will bottom out the drug market

and the oil markets. The government and the big

companies there will go broke. Then we're really

going to move in. We're going to put ads in newspapers

in the U. S. In California and Texas and Arizona and New

Mexico and Nevada and Florida. We're going to offer

free land to any American willing to come to Mexico

and work a piece of land. Sure we'll have to drop a

bunch of money on the plantation land we bought for

alternative fuel crops. But just think of the benefits.

We'll have millions of American land owners in

Mexico and we'll be able to elect Americans into

the government and take over. I'm already working

on the big theme park 'Gringo Land'.

Hey the Mexicans don't want Mexico anymore, right?

They're all packing up to come over here.

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TOPIC: Ali Asker, A PKK Terrorists Living Off British Taxpayers Goodwill In
Befast, UK
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/167a70662c7b9044
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 9:24 pm
From: "rick murphy"

http://www.turkishforum.com/pkk/img/photos/bebek_katili1.jpg
http://www.turkishforum.com/greece/visual.html

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Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com, <pasa_as...@kurdistan.kd>) is a self
proclaimed PKK terrorist and proud of his murders living off british
taxpayers goodwill in Belfast, UK.

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"From: Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com)
Subject: Re: Kuwerdish contribution to Oscar 2005
This is the only article in this thread
View: Original Format
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian, soc.culture.kurdish,
soc.culture.turkish, soc.culture.iraq
Date: 2004-10-02 04:55:12 PST

We are the TERRORISTS...

We will divide Iran, Turkey, Syria and Iraq in to the pieces until
ever single individual is free from thought control, torture and
brain-washing! Every nation should have their own land where they can
practice their own culture. Iran has consist of about 20 some
different nations and we will tore them in to 20 different countries
and give mollahs a small land where they can practice their barbaric
religion to themselves and only harm temselves.

WE WILL BREAK IRAN IN TO THE PIECES!!! "

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http://www.hurriyetim.com.tr/haber/0,,sid~381@nvid~607454,00.asp

Ereli: Our common interest is to stop the PKK

The U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli in response to whether
the US would allow Turkey to enter the north of Iraq in order to
eliminate the terrorist organization, the Kurdistan Workers Party
(PKK), said that he was unaware that such a statement had been made and
that if it did become a question, the necessary military authorities
would deal with it.

Ereli reiterated that the US recognised the PKK as a terrorist
organization and would act with its common interest with Turkey in
preventing terrorism activities of the PKK.

"Both Turkey and the United States consider PKK a terrorist
organization. Both countries are active against PKK," Ereli indicated.
He noted that the two countries would continue to cooperate and work
together on this matter.

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http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=42380

Boucher: Ocalan Is A Terrorist Who Belongs In A Prison Cell

Published: 5/19/2005

WASHINGTON D.C. - The United States Department of State has announced
that Abdullah Ocalan is a terrorist who ''belongs in a prison cell.''

The U.S. Department of State has indicated that it took note of the
recent decision made by the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on
Ocalan and that this topic will be best handled by Turkey.

Spokesman of the U.S. Department of State Richard Boucher has said that
the U.S. continues to regard the PKK as a terrorist organization.

Describing Ocalan as a terrorist who belongs in a prison cell, Boucher
said that they did take a note of the ECHR decision.

Yet we believe that this topic would most appropriately be handled by
Turkey itself, commented Boucher.

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http://www.turkses.com/index.asp

The Terror Organization KADEK

1. General

Historical Background

The initial activities regarding the terror organization PKK have
started with the intellectual activities of some students defending the
Marxist-Leninist ideology within the Ankara's Democratic Patriotic
Students Association (ADYÖD) under the leadership of Abdullah ÖCALAN
since 1973.

Abdullah ÖCALAN and his friends declared the setting up of the
Kurdistan's Workers Party (PKK) during an illegal meeting held in the
Diyarbakir province, Lice district, Fis village on November 27, 1978
which was called 1 st. Congress.

The inital documents stating PKK's aim were the "The Way Of
Kurdistan's Revolution-Manifesto" and party program published in 1978.
According to the said program, the aim of the terror organization is to
found initially an independent Marxist-Leninist Kurdistan state in the
East and Southeast Anatolian regions in Turkey by using the method of
armed propaganda and to achieve subsequently its final goal of
establishing an "Independent United Kurdistan" through the unification
of the Kurdish states to be founded in neighboring countries.

To this end, the terror organization PKK having officially declared
the commencement of its armed activities following the bloody attacks
on the districts Eruh and Þemdinli on August 15, 1984 has determined
four-stage strategy in order to divide and destroy Turkey by trying to
gather some part of the people, who have been living in peace within
the country for thousands of years, on a separate territory under a
different flag claiming that they have allegedly a different identity.

According to the above-mentioned strategy, it has been intended to;

- Obtain certain cultural and social rights at the first stage,

- Set up an autonomy or another administrative system of federation
type at the second stage,

- Establish the alleged North Kurdistan in our territory at the
third stage and

- Found an independent and united Kurdistan state in the region to
include some parts of Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian territories at the
final stage.

To this end, the terror organization PKK has adopted the method of
separatism-based, three-phased armed propaganda which was called the
war of people, and based on violence directed against the regional
people. Accordingly, the terror organization PKK has aimed at.

- Completing strategic defense stage through armed propaganda,
alleged guerilla war and mobile war operations under the control of its
leading staff within the framework of its ideological ideas in the
first phase,

- Partially completing the process of establishing fronts and an
army and thus, creating the strategic balance which will provide the
balance of power between the security forces and the terror
organization in the second phase and,

- Establishing saved areas in the region after triggering public
risings wherever possible by escalating the conflicts and passing into
strategic attack state when seizing the authority in the third phase,

The terror organization which has increased its armed force over 8
thousand men and raised the violence it has used against the people
regardless of their being women, elder or children to the highest level
from 1992 has not been able to achieve the above-mentioned stages until
today due to the measures taken in accordance with the "Area
Superiority Concept" put into practice from 1994, and the operations
successfully conducted by security forces. As a result, the separatist
terror organization was forced to take the decision of unilateral
ceasefire four times in 1993, 1995, 1998 and finally on September 01,
1999 in order to preserve its terrorist power.

The terror organization desiring to exploit the alleged cease-fire
as an opportunity of recovery for tactical purposes has tried to prove
that it still maintains its existence by continuing its acts and
violence against the civilians and security forces in rural, on the one
hand, carrying out sabotage and bomb attacks in the cities, on the
other hand.

The Turkish Armed Forces has gained an important success in pulling
down the terror organization and its activities to a marginal level
through a successful military operation it has conducted under the
Turkish constitution and legislation to destroy the internal threat, by
acting in a way that ensures the simultaneous implementation of a
series of administrative, social and economic measures taken to prevent
the support being provided to the terror organization.

The last achievement of the Turkish Armed Forces in struggling
against terrorism was that head of the terror organization A. ÖCALAN,
who was deported from Syria, was taken to Turkey following his capture
in Kenya/Nairobi on February 15, 1999 and brought before the
independent court.

The terror organization, tending to resort again to violence during
the period when the head of the terror organization has been taken to
Turkey and brought before the judge, has been able to adapt itself to
the new situation in a short time within the framework of the defense
that head of the terror organization has made in the court and has
tried to reach its goal by exploiting Turkey's EU goal and certain
values such as human rights and democratic rights widely accepted by
the international community. Within the framework of his defense in the
court, the head of the terrorist organization has changed his tactic
and begun to articulate such concepts as "Democratic Republic" and
"Democratic Middle Eastern Union" in its defense to save himself from
capital punishment.

At the VII. Congress of the terror organization held in the Kandil
Mountain region in Iraq on January 02-23, 2000 during which the new
strategy of the terror organization was agreed, it was decided that;

- The armed activities should be resumed in case of execution of
head of the terrorist organization and.

- The Kurdistan's National Liberation Army (ARGK), the alleged
military flank of the terror organization should maintain its existence
under the title of "People Defense Forces (Hezi Parastini Gel-HP) and
the Kurdistan's National Liberation Front (ERNK), the alleged political
flank of the terror organization, which mainly carries out activities
in European countries under the "Kurdish Democratic People Union
(Yekita Democratic A Gele Kurd-YDK) until appropriate legal
arrangements regarding recognition of the Kurdish identity in Turkey
and constitutional guarantees are provided.

The legalization plan that the terror organization has developed
according to its new strategy agreed during its congress, provides for
the followings:

- Giving the message that it is ready to make peace with the
government of Turkish Republic in order to obtain the status of being
recognized as a party in national and international public opinion,

- Handing over some terrorists to the security forces to convince
the public opinion that it is allegedly ready to make peace,

- Making political studies within the People's Democratic Party
(HADEP), which has political connection with the terror organization,
or a similar legal organization, and cooperating with other political
parties,

- Making guiding studies within the municipalities governed by
HADEP to broaden grass roots,

- Having contacts and cooperating with intellectuals from all
circles in Turkey's democratization to ensure the alleged cultural
rights of Kurds being recognized,

- Demanding that the Turkish government should make legal changes
to prove its goodwill through the human rights organizations,

- Bringing up the education in Kurdish language,

- Ensuring the Kurdish identity coming to the fore by focusing on
cultural activities,

- Organizing campaigns in order to ensure the scope of the law of
amnesty being extended,

The terror organization has attempted by its new plan to reach its
final goal that it could not achieve through its armed struggle it has
been carrying out for 16 years, through legalization efforts. To this
end, it has increased its activities it has conducted under the title
of the "Democratic Republic" at home and under "Political Settlement (
Solution ) To The Kurdish Problem" abroad,

In the plan the terror organization developed under the name of
"Peace Project" on March 07, 2000 following the VII. Congress,

- The alleged "Kurdish Problem" and PKK terror are identified with
the Irish, Palestinian, East Timor and Basque problems and it is
requested that the related "Political Solution" initiatives should also
be taken in Turkey and,

- It is put forward that the settlement of the alleged Kurdish
problem in Turkey in accordance with the predictions of head of the
terror organization, Öcalan would also serve the settlement of the
problems in the Middle Eastern countries, and the "Democratic Middle
Eastern Union" to be set up in regional countries would lead to
economic, social and cultural developments,

- Subsequently, in its 2nd "Party Assembly" meeting held in North
Iraq in September 2000, the terror organization decided to be
reorganized to conceal its terrorist identity and began to term its
former structure with innocent titles,

- Assuming that the new strategy of the terror organization could
not be well understood and adopted by its mountain members, the terror
organization held the III. "Party Assembly" meeting between 27 February
and 03 March 2001 and focused on restructuring activities in accordance
with the decisions it took during the said meeting. In addition, the
terror organization, having assessed that the people movement
activities could not achieve the desired level, has intensified its
efforts to ensure its new strategy being accepted by its members and
supporters through a series of meetings.

In this context;

* The "Centralized Propaganda and Media Conference" was held
between 29 May and 07 June 2001 in order for the efforts in the media
field, that the terror organization considers to be insufficient, and
to reach an organized structure,

* The "1st Public Movement Conference" was held between 20 June and
02 July 2001 for the purpose of carrying out the acts and activities
the terror organization has started under the name of alleged 2nd Peace
Efforts, in a more organized manner through its supporters and
sympathizers who are directed by the front organizations,

* The "1st Public Defense Forces (HPG), Conference" was held
between 28 June and 12 July 2001 in order to develop a new structure by
making radical changes in the armed flank of the terror organization
from the armed group order and discipline to war tactics and
techniques,

* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,

* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,

* The "6th National Conference" was held on August 05-22, 2001
under the leadership of the alleged Supreme Council of the terror
organization in order to coordinate the conferences to be held in line
with the activities the terror organization carries out in various
fields and to direct all organizational efforts towards public
movements,

- The above-mentioned conferences have drawn special attention as
the ones which have been held within the framework of preparations for
the 8th Congress of the terror organization PKK. According to the
decisions taken during the said conferences, various campaigns have
been organized primarily in Europe and subsequently in Turkey for the
purpose of gaining support for the requests of constitutional
recognition of the Kurdish identity and the use of Kurdish language as
the language of education. However, the terror organization has not
been able to reach the desired level of participation by the people.

- On the other hand, the terror organization has focused on
re-establishment of the terrorist groups not directly affected by the
security forces and on their armed training in raid, laying ambush and
sabotage. The disagreements arising within the terror organization,
PKK-KPU conflict and escape of nearly five hundred Syrian terrorists
from the terror organization in particular have been the noticeable
problems that the terror organization has faced within the period under
review.

- In the meantime, the defense that head of the terror organization
has developed for his trial lasting in the European Court of Human
Rights has been printed by the terrorist organization in a two-volume
book under the title of "From the Sumerian Monastic State To The
Democratic Republic", accepted as the second manifesto and begun to be
used as a guide document for all activities carried out by the terror
organization and as a basic document in the ideological training of the
terrorist organization's members and supporters.

- The 8th Congress preparations which have lasted for a long time
in accordance with the outline of the said defense of head of the
terrorist organization was held in the Kandil Mountain region in
Northern Iraq on April 04-10, 2002 with the participation of 285
terrorist's 106 of whom were women and 179 men as well as about 100
audiences,

- In the said congress during which the activities the terror
organization PKK has conducted in the past and report developed
according to the defense of head of the terror organization and
submitted to the congress have also been evaluated, it has been pointed
out that;

* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,

* However, the ideology and modus operandi adopted by the terror
organization at the beginning have failed due to the collapse of the
former Soviet system and the anti-terror environment arising following
the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the US and,

* It has been the time that PKK would be replaced by a completely
new formation in order not to be included in the list of terrorist
organizations, and it must undergo restructuring beginning from its
ideology to its lowest-level units, including a change in its
organizational title,

* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,

* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,

* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,

- During its 8th Congress, the terror organization has stated that
PKK's role has ended under current circumstances and decided that;

* It will not use the title "PKK" in the activities it carries out
in every field from April 04, 2002 when the birthday of head of the
terrorists is,

* It will conduct its activities under the title "Kurdistan's
Freedom and Democracy Congress-KADEK" from now on in accordance with a
new program, statute and organization based on the solution of Kurdish
problem in line with the main points of the defense that head of the
terrorists has submitted to the European Court of Human Rights within
the existing borders in four countries,

* PKK considers KADEK as its sole legal representative and disposes
of its moral and physical acquisitions to KADEK. The terror
organization made a press conference in Belgium/Brussels on April 16,
2000 and publicized its decisions.

- In the meantime, the fact that the inclusion of the PKK in the
list of terrorist organizations developed by the European Union member
nations which was issued on May 4, 2002 has led the members of the
terrorist organizations into great concern regarding the possible
inclusion of KADEK in the list of terrorist organizations. For this
reason, the terror organization has immediately begun to make protests
against such nations as Denmark, Spain, the UK who have had an effect
on the related decision-making,

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TOPIC: Myanmar declares 4 unlawful associations as terrorist organizations
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bb74ee0b4bd7c7f6
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Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 9:29 pm
From: "U Myint Lwin"

Home >> World
UPDATED: 08:54, April 14, 2006

Myanmar declares 4 unlawful associations as terrorist organizations

The Myanmar government declared on Thursday four unlawful
anti-government associations including their member groups and
individuals in operation as terrorist organizations.

These associations are Sein Win-led National Coalition Government of
the Union of Burma (NCGUB), Federation of Trade Union-Burma (FTUB) led
by Hla Oo and Pyithit Nyunt Wai (alias) Maung Maung, Than Khe-led All
Burma Students' Democratic Front ( ABSDF) and Win Khet-led National
League for Democracy-Liberated Area (NLD-LA), Radio Myanmar reported,
quoting a notification of the Ministry of Home Affairs.

These associations were termed terrorist organizations for their
endangering the country's law enforcement, stability and peace and
tranquillity, the notification said, citing facts that proved their
terrorist acts committed inside or outside Myanmar in recent years,
including a series of the most recent bomb attacks in a number of
locations in the country.

The prior three associations along with the Shan State Army- South
(SSA-S), led by Ywet Sit, had already been declared by the government
as unlawful associations last August.

Source: Xinhua

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TOPIC: Bush Defector to Demolish 9/11 Big Lie in Madison
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d460c3faf7472955
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Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 12:33 am
From: "K James"

Bush Defector to Demolish 9/11 Big Lie in Madison
Kevin Barrett, 30.03.2006 19:41

The former top economist in Bush's Department of Labor, Morgan Reynolds, will speak out on the 9/11 inside job at the
State Historical Society, University of Wisconsin-Madison on Saturday, May 6th. The film Loose Change will be shown, and
refreshments served, starting at 1 p.m, and Reynolds will speak at 3:00 p.m.

Dr. Reynolds, who holds three U.W.-Madison degrees, and who is currently Professor of Economics at Texas A&M University,
will present evidence that top Bush Administration officials orchestrated the controlled demolition of the World Trade
Center, and the murder of almost 2,500 Americans, as a pretext for initiating their pre-planned "long war" in the Middle
East.

"While more Americans doubt the 9/11 story every week, evidence abounds that many have a mental block against rational
examination of the evidence about 9/11" writes Dr. Reynolds in a recent article. This mental block, he thinks, amounts
to willful ignorance-not just about 9/11, but about history.

"Governments throughout history have provoked or staged attacks on their own people to serve the powers behind the
throne ('the money power'), glorify themselves, engage in vast government spending, reward friends, exert domestic
control, stimulate the juices of war, annex neighbors and pursue vast geostrategic rearrangements (the 'global
domination project)" Reynolds asserts. He notes that every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on the
"Operation Northwoods" plan to murder Americans in fake "Cuban terrorist" attacks in 1962. The planned Operation
Northwoods murders of ordinary Americans in fake terrorist bombings and a fake "airliner shoot-down" would have involved
hundreds of military and intelligence personnel. Yet the existence of Operation Northwoods was successfully kept secret
from the American people for forty years until James Bamford revealed it in his book Body of Secrets, published in
January 2002.

Though government officials have historically been able to successfully conceal their fake or arranged war-trigger
attacks long enough to avoid being hanged for treason, Reynolds thinks the 9/11 cover-up has already unraveled.
"Skepticism about conspiracy, small or large, is somewhat beside the point in the case of 9/11 because the official
Osama-and-Nineteen-Young-Arabs (ONYA) conspiracy tale is so farcical and impossible. Nearly everyone in America has easy
access to the internet and hundreds of websites expose the 9/11 fraud." (Morgan Reynolds, "Conspiracy and Closed Minds
on 9/11": http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911)

Reynolds argues that the Twin Towers and World Trade Center Building 7 were destroyed in a manner that can only be
explained by controlled demolition with pre-planted explosives-which should not be surprising, since no steel framed
high-rises have ever collapsed in the way the three World Trade Center buildings did for any other reason. In his
article "Why Did the World Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse?" Reynolds writes that among the many features of the WTC
demolitions that suggest explosives, rather than jet-fuel fires, are:

1. Fire had never before caused steel-frame buildings to collapse except for the three buildings on 9/11, nor has fire
collapsed any steel high rise since 9/11.
2. The fires, especially in the South Tower and WTC-7, were small.
3. WTC-7 was unharmed by an airplane and had only minor fires on the seventh and twelfth floors of this 47-story steel
building yet it collapsed in less than 10 seconds.
4. WTC-5 and WTC-6 had raging fires but did not collapse despite much thinner steel beams (pp. 68-9).
5. In a PBS documentary, Larry Silverstein, the WTC lease-holder, recalled talking to the fire department commander on
9/11 about WTC-7 and said, ".maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it," slang for demolish it.
6. FEMA, given the uninviting task of explaining the collapse of Building 7 with mention of demolition verboten admitted
that the best it could come up with had "only a low probability of occurrence."
7. It's difficult if not impossible for hydrocarbon fires like those fed by jet fuel (kerosene) to raise the temperature
of steel close to melting.

Professional demolition, by contrast, can explain all of these facts and more. Demolition means placing explosives
throughout a building, and detonating them in sequence to weaken "the structure so it collapses or folds in upon
itself". In conventional demolitions gravity does most of the work, although it probably did a minority on 9/11, so
heavily were the towers honeycombed with explosives.

1. Each WTC building collapse occurred at virtually free-fall speed (approximately 10 seconds or less).
2. Each building collapsed, for the most part, into its own footprint.
3. Virtually all the concrete (an estimated 100,000 tons in each tower) on every floor was pulverized into a very fine
dust, a phenomenon that requires enormous energy and could not be caused by gravity alone (".workers can't even find
concrete. 'It's all dust,' [the official] said").
4. Dust exploded horizontally for a couple hundred feet, as did debris, at the beginning of each tower's collapse.
5. Collapses were total, leaving none of the massive core columns sticking up hundreds of feet into the air.
6. Salvage experts were amazed at how small the debris stacks were.
7. The steel beams and columns came down in sections under 30 feet long and had no signs of "softening"; there was
little left but shorn sections of steel and a few bits of concrete.
8. Photos and videos of the collapses all show "demolition waves," meaning "confluent rows of small explosions" along
floors (blast sequences).
9. According to many witnesses, explosions occurred within the buildings.
10. Each collapse had detectable seismic vibrations suggestive of underground explosions, similar to the 2.3 earthquake
magnitude from a demolition like the Seattle Kingdome (p. 108).
11. Each collapse produced molten steel identical to that generated by explosives, resulting in "hot spots" that
persisted for months (the two hottest spots at WTC-2 and WTC-7 were approximately 1,350o F five days after being
continuously flooded with water, a temperature high enough to melt aluminum (p. 70).
("Why Did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse?" by Morgan Reynolds: http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911)

The apparent demolition of the three skyscrapers, and a perhaps inadvertent statement by heavily-insured WTC landlord
Larry Silverstein that WTC-7 was "pulled" (slang for "demolished") can be viewed on many 9/11 truth DVDs and web-videos,
including Loose Change, 9/11 Eyewitness, 9/11 and the American Empire, (Dr. David Griffin), and 9/11 Revisited (Dr.
Steven Jones). Dr. Reynolds' articles on 9/11 and other matters can be found at http://nomoregames.net. The videos, and
further information about Dr. Reynolds' May 6th speech, are available from the event's sponsor, the Madison-based
Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth: http://mujca.com

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TOPIC: Iran asked help from Turkey to eliminate PKK
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5be3152b906bc6c0
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 9:34 pm
From: vkarlamov@yahoo.com

BabaTurk wrote:
> <vkarlamov@yahoo.com> wrote
> > Ali Asker wrote:
> > >
> > > Iran asked help from Turkey to eliminate PKK
> > >
> > PKK? That's code word for "Kurds", ain't it?
>
> It is the outlawed marxist kurdish terrorist organization.
>
> > Is Iran interested in "eliminating" only Kurds? How about Armenians?
> > In addtiton to a recent genocide against Kurds, committed as part of
> > Turkey's NATO membership, Turkey can also share its experience in their
> > Holocaust against 2 million Armenians earlier in the 20th century.
>
> And you really believe such tales? It is cheap Armenian Propaganda
> without scientific basis. A genocide was done by the Armenians themselves
> as they killed more than 4 times more other nationalities while they
> were cleansing the region for their "Greater Armenia" dreams.
>

So, in your words, Turks neve killed any Armenians a tall. And
moreover, Armenians killled 4 times more non-Armenians than Turks
killed Armenians.

Sort of like the Rusian joke: "This happened long time ago and it's not
true!"

>
> They failed.
>

How can that be? According to you, Turkish Armenians slaughtered 8
million people in Trukey to clear way for their "Greater Armenia". Yet
they falied? In fact, not only is there no "Greater Armenia" in Turkey
but there are no alive Armenians in Turkey. Only graves.

And how come you say "they failed"? If Armenians killed 4 times more
Turks than Turks killed Armenians, how come Armenians didn't win? If
you kill your enemy - you win. If they won, how come most Armenians
were dead and the rest had to escape to USA, Russia and France? Makes
no sense.

And isn't admitting and apologizing for the anti-Armenian Holocaust the
pre-condition that the European Union has put on Turkey for entering
EU? You want to take advantage of hard-working Europeans, don't you?
Then just fess up. It's worth your money. And it doesn't preclude you
from killing more Kurds later and then denying it agian.

What intelligent and honest people you guys are. I am sure glad that
NATO committed genocide against Serbs and Gypises in Kosovo on your
behalf.

BTW, I hear Turks have filmed a great new blockbuster movie, telling a
story of deranged American military units stealing innocent Muslim
babies and selling them to evil Jewish doctors for torture and evil
experiments. I heard this blockbuster had the largest budget in the
history of Turkish cinema ($10 million) and grossed the greatest amount
in its first weekend. How is it doing now? Has it become the most
popular and beloved film in Turkish histroy yet? Have you shown it to
you NATO friends yet?

>
> And today they are helding part of Azerbaycan occupied.
> They are not that peaceful people you wrongly might think of them.
> FYI: today in Armenia not a single other minority like Turks or Moslem is living!
> How do you think have they did it?...
>
> And, weren't you talking of 1 million in the past?... :-)
>

I don't think it was I. I haven't posted much on this subject and
certainly never used the 1 million figure.

>
> > Speaking of holocausts, any news on when exactly Iran plans to drop its
> > first a-bomb on you-know-whom?
>
> t-21d and counting... :-)
>

I have no idea what that means.

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TOPIC: THERMITE USED IN WTC DEMOLITION
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b5dc051ba7c1a4a9
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 4:37 pm
From: "Tilly"

serwad wrote:
> > I don't know what you needs are, but I can see by your posts that
> > you're a good person, more than what I can say about myself at
> > times, especially when I'm communicating with those that post
> > hatred towards Americans and Jews.
> Jews can never be Americans, their loyalty is to the mob!
>
> http://www.teambio.org/2006/04/marines-under-attack/

Muslims can never be American, their loyalty is to their own.

--
TillyGr@hotmail.com

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 3:09 pm
From: "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com>

"Tilly" <TillyGr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:LJF%f.13050$JZ1.522363@news.xtra.co.nz...
> serwad wrote:
>> > I don't know what you needs are, but I can see by your posts that
>> > you're a good person, more than what I can say about myself at
>> > times, especially when I'm communicating with those that post
>> > hatred towards Americans and Jews.
>> Jews can never be Americans, their loyalty is to the mob!
>>
>> http://www.teambio.org/2006/04/marines-under-attack/
>
>
>
>
> Muslims can never be American, their loyalty is to their own.

Must be a semitic thing.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 10:12 pm
From: renigg'ade@enngl'coon.biz (The Rev'd)

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:37:27 +1200, "Steffi Green"
<green1583@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

>serwad wrote:
>> > I don't know what you needs are, but I can see by your posts that
>> > you're a good person, more than what I can say about myself at
>> > times, especially when I'm communicating with those that post
>> > hatred towards Americans and Jews.
>> Jews can never be Americans, their loyalty is to the mob!
>>
>> http://www.teambio.org/2006/04/marines-under-attack/
>
>
>
>
>Muslims can never be American, their loyalty is to their own.

How ironic coming from a jew - a race known worldwide for its divided
loyalties.

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TOPIC: WAR IS A RACKET
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/527e844bc1d753b7
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 4:40 pm
From: "Tilly"

serwad wrote:
> "AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message
> news:443BF3D9.E26BBB52@io.com...
> > "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > > As an American citizen,
> >
> > You're not an American citizen (but you're fond of lying...).
> YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME

Yes we know you are a Canadian citizen not an American.

--
TillyGr@hotmail.com

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 4:40 pm
From: "Tilly"

Ya salama wrote:
> Tom Donavan wrote:
> > > Serwad wrote:
> >
> > > YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO OR WHAT I AM YOU ARSEHOLE, NOR DO I GIVE A
> > > FLYING FUCK FOR YOU OR SMELLY BUTLER!
> >
> >
> > I hope the Marines that catch you have been to Camp Butler on
> > Okinawa like me, then we can reminess about old times on Oki while
> > we charge you with the treasoness crimes like your murdering friend
> > Moussaoui is convicted on.
> I HOPE THEY SPELL BETTER THAN YOU DO

Hey Alex, do you really think we don't know this is you?

--
TillyGr@hotmail.com

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 10:19 pm
From: "Tilly"

serwad wrote:
> "AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message
> news:443BF30A.49EAC973@io.com...
> > I don't think that a man of integrity like Smedley Butler would have
> > any use for a lying little Serbian hate-bigot like you,
> > StriderCabal!
> YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO OR WHAT I AM YOU ARSEHOLE, NOR DO I GIVE A
> FLYING FUCK FOR YOU OR SMELLY BUTLER!

Alex Seredin wrote: (1995)

"I have a name, my name is Alex Seredin. I live in Ottawa, Canada. I am 65
years old, and have lived through the WWII in Belgrade. You do not want to
provide me with your name because you are coward and a skunk, because you
hide behind anonymity to slander someone.
--
TillyGr@hotmail.com

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TOPIC: There Are Criminals, and Then There Are Criminals
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/50ef8615cbe980ba
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 9:51 pm
From: cor

gatt wrote:
>
> "cor" <cor@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
> news:443E0A5B.51C927C4@exchangenet.net...
>
> >>> Your rhetoric is meaningless. You don't care about Casey Sheehan
> >>> anymore
> >> than the neocons.
> >
> > Yea, right gatt, Cindy Sheehan cared shit about her son.
>
> IS YOUR NAME CINDY SHEEHAN, STUPID?

Who wrote the article?, moron!

>
> IS YOUR NAME CINDY SHEEHAN, STUPID?

Do I have to explain it?

>
> > you pathetic rightwing assholes have no shame.
>
> IS YOUR NAME CINDY SHEEHAN, STUPID?

Read the initial posting again. Here is the heading:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: There Are Criminals, and Then There Are Criminals
Date: 11 Apr 2006 21:00:04 -0500
From: ric

http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Bush_Gang/ThereAreCriminals.html

There Are Criminals, and Then There Are Criminals
by Cindy Sheehan

...
------

To which you respond with this:

Your rhetoric is meaningless. You don't care about Casey Sheehan anymore
than the neocons.

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TOPIC: YES! WIPE IT OFF!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/23bfb91fb8bac2e1
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 4:57 am
From: renigg'ade@enngl'coon.biz (The Rev'd)

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:13:07 -0500, "Hello, Bill!"
<bill@brad.ha.ha.ha> wrote:

>The Rev'd wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:20:09 +0100, Leon <dev@null.nowhere.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 05:01:06 +0000, "flaviaR@verizon.net"
>>><flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Norman has it in his head that the US is invincible ad infinitum. When a
>>>>>country starts to believe that BS, that is when the slide begins Susan.
>>>>
>>>>Except that the US *is* invincible. No "slide" is imminent.
>>>
>>>Are you really that foolish? What school did you go to back in the
>>>ould sod?
>>
>>
>> Suzy went to jew conversion school. She's a thick Irish cunt.
>>
>>
>>>>Except iin what passes for the minds of bgiots.
>>>
>>>And what are bgiots?
>>
>>
>> A variation of bgots.
>>
>
>Is that so.

Absolutely.

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TOPIC: USA should learned from the Jooz
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a8a629a0f4fee2f7
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 5:06 am
From: "Mexican Bandolero"

But you don't have an oven Doggie,
The Jooz your'e talking about have an incinerator, built for the Pallies.
Care to see it again?
MB
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Salah Jafar" <codeman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4nu%f.10303$Fp4.456@trnddc01...
The United States should learned the Lessons from the Jooz when they were in
Lebanon. The jooz could not control 22 miles strip with out getting blown up
daily. They got their ass kicked so bad, even with their criminals allies
the Phalangist cowards who sold themselves to the filthy Jooz. Now the
United States could not control 5 miles zone from Baghdad international
Airport to the green zone. Here is the finest Army in the world, is an able
to control Iraq. Can you Imagine the Jooz occupying Syria or Jordan, it will
be a nightmare for them. On the other hand, if we regain control of
Palestine, I promise to put every Joo in the OVEN with out any hesitation. I
want to see their bravery in the OVEN.
SJ

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TOPIC: EL CRIMEN DE PIEDRA
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ddcfcc4382eb4de
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 10:06 pm
From: michaelgayoso1948@msn.com

Luis Fernando wrote:
> PM Solidaridad al Pueblo Cubano, ya que se vaya Castro pero la verdad
> como comparas a Castro, con Chavez Evo, Kirchner, Lula
>
> Además pues es muy extremo eso de la pena de muerte, pero que querias
> que hicieran con las rebeliones, como en Colombia que al narco en vez
> de aplastarlos los felicitan incluso por sus vinculos con Wall Street.

Entonces no se quejen de Somoza, ni de Trujillo, ni de los Escuadrones
de la Muerte en El Salvador porque hacian lo mismo, a un nivel mucho
menor, que el tirano Castro.
>
>
> http://www.narconews.com/images/feb12fab54a8589b4b0e.jpeg
>
> > EL CRIMEN DE PIEDRA
> >
> > En la decada del 60 se instrumento en Cuba la ley que sancionaba a la pena
> > capital por fusilamiento a todo aquel que se levantara en armas contra el
> > gobierno, eso con el fin de frenar las distintas guerrillas que se formaban
> > el los lomerios, sobre todo en La Sierra del Escambray, que fueron
> > eliminadas por la doctrina militar de la masividad, cuando el gobierno
> > cubano movilizo miles de milicianos en una operacion genericamente llamada
> > "Lucha contra bandidos", la cual consistia en al menos cien milicianos por
> > cada alzado en armas de las guerrillas, en ese tiempo sostenidas de armas y
> > pertrechos por la CIA segun el decir oficial.
> >
> > Por esa epoca era yo un estudiante de medicina que vivia en Camajuani, pero
> > con amigos en el cercano poblado de Caibarien, donde solia ir a playear.
> > Uno de mis amigos, Evaristo Herrera, me contacto para ir a "una actividad"
> > en un central cercano.
> > Accedi y esa tarde en un jeep de Los Comites de Defensa donde era dirigente
> > mi amigo, nos traladamos al Central Adela, a disfrutar de la dichosa
> > actividad, nos acompanaban a Osvaldo Sanchez Nieto, alguien llamado El
> > Gallego, zapatero de oficio y otros que no recuerdo.
> > Llegamos al circulo social obrero del lugar y entonces se me dijo que
> > realmente la actividad consistia en un Juicio sumarisimo que se haria a unos
> > jovenes alzados en las lomas de Buena Vista, un poblado cercano.
> >
> > Habia muchos vecinos y el tribunal estaba entrando, presidido por el
> > Comandante Felix Torres, entonces jefe militar del area.
> > Fue entonces que detras de los jueces, en fila macabra, entraron 6 personas,
> > cargando cada dos de ellas un ataud, quedando estos, uno al lado del otro a
> > la izquierda del improvisado tribunal.
> > Entonces trajeron los reos,uno de ellos bien conocido por mi, por haber sido
> > companero de estudios de bachillerato en el Instituto "Mario Pando", del
> > poblado de Remedios, donde fue Presidente de la FEM, federacion de
> > Estudiantes de ensenanza media. No habia cumplido los 24 anos, su nombre
> > NORBERTO CAMACHO, y otros mas que conocia de vista pero no de nombre, todos
> > a la sazon mienbros de la Juventud catolica de Remedios.
> > Ellos palidecieron al ver los ataudes y por supuesto supieron el destino
> > final de aquella farsa de juicio, donde la condena estaba escrita antes de
> > celebrarlo.
> > En el juicio se supo que su alzamiento fue puramente simbolico, pues no
> > tenias armas en el momento de su captura, ni la tuvieron antes, ni les fue
> > confiscada arma alguna en los registros de sus casas.
> > Ademas se habian alzado casi como si fueran a un picnic, en unas lomas
> > descampadas sin refugios, que servirian para todo menos para formar una
> > guerrilla armada.
> >
> > Se dicto la sentencia para asombro de todos, y de ellos que no daban credito
> > a lo que oian. Alli mismo fueron llevados a una pared de piedra un poco
> > detras del sitio donde fueron juzgados y fueron fusilados.
> >
> > Fue un crimen terrible, que se hizo solo para escarmiento de futuros
> > alzamientos y para estrenar un Ley recien promulgada.
> > Sus cadaveros fueron echados a las cajas y llevados al cementerio de
> > Caibarien, segun me dijeron despues, eso no puedo confirmarlo, y sepultados
> > superficialmente, para despues entrgarlos a los familiares.
> > No los vi matar, no quise hacerlo, y mi amistad con Evaristo, al cual
> > conocia por medio de un hermano, termino para siempre, tratando
> > politicamente de evadir futuros contactos con el.
> > Durante toda mi vida he recordado ese juicio montado como espectaculo y
> > pienso cuantos crimenes como ese, se habran llevado a ejecucion en un pais
> > que desconocia la pena de muerte hasta que llegaron al poder aquellos
> > barbudos que venian proclamando PAZ y PROSPERIDAD al despues enganado pueblo
> > cubano.
> > Fue un crimen, una burla legalizada a la dignidad humana, y al derecho a la
> > defensa de todo humano.
> > Muchos de los acores de aquella escena ya murieron, de muerte natural y
> > suicidado uno de ellos, segun me dijeron, a todos sin exccepcion la maquina
> > destructiva de la revolucion le paso por encima, siendo "despatados" como se
> > dice en Cuba, y envejecieron asqueados de muchos, odiados por otros y en la
> > autoconviccion que lucharon e hicieron cosas detestables por un presente
> > descalabrado y sin futuro, como lo es la sociedad remendada por el Gobierno
> > de Castro.
> > OJO seguidores de Chavez, de Evo y otros....no terminen como estos, cuando
> > les lleguen los dias viejos y se den cuenta que han perdido lo mejor de sus
> > animos por causas erroneas y curas remendadas de los males sociales que
> > sufren.
> > Consejo: cuidado no salgan de guatemala para entrar en guatapeor
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > CALLES DE LA HABANA: (ESTE WEBSITE ES UNA JOYA)
> >
> > Calle http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/calle23/index.htm 23
> > Quinta http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/quinta/index.htm
> > Avenida
> > Línea <http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/linea/index.htm
> > Almendares
> > http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/almendares/index.htm
> >
> > Calle http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/calle26/index.htm 26
> > Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/ave26/index.htm 26
> > Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/ave11/index.htm 11
> > Avenida
> > http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/presidentes/index.htm
> > de los Presidentes
> > Rancho http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/rancho/index.htm
> > Boyeros
> > Monserrate
> > http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/monserrate/index.htm
> > Empedrado http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/empedrado/index.htm
> > Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/puerto/index.htm del
> > Puerto
> > Calle Cuba http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/cuba/ind
> > "Miguel" <michaelgayoso1948@msn.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > 1144027143.215598.218510@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > El monstruo de Biran
> > >
> >
> > --
> > CALLES DE LA HABANA: (ESTE WEBSITE ES UNA JOYA)
> >
> > Calle http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/calle23/index.htm 23
> > Quinta http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/quinta/index.htm
> > Avenida
> > Línea <http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/linea/index.htm
> > Almendares
> > http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/almendares/index.htm
> >
> > Calle http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/calle26/index.htm 26
> > Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/ave26/index.htm 26
> > Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/ave11/index.htm 11
> > Avenida
> > http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/presidentes/index.htm
> > de los Presidentes
> > Rancho http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/rancho/index.htm
> > Boyeros
> > Monserrate
> > http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/monserrate/index.htm
> > Empedrado http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/empedrado/index.htm
> > Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/puerto/index.htm del
> > Puerto
> > Calle Cuba http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/cuba/ind
> >
> > --
> > CALLES DE LA HABANA: (ESTE WEBSITE ES UNA JOYA)
> >
> > Calle http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/calle23/index.htm 23
> > Quinta http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/quinta/index.htm
> > Avenida
> > Línea <http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/linea/index.htm
> > Almendares
> > http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/almendares/index.htm
> >
> > Calle http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/calle26/index.htm 26
> > Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/ave26/index.htm 26
> > Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/ave11/index.htm 11
> > Avenida
> > http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/presidentes/index.htm
> > de los Presidentes
> > Rancho http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/rancho/index.htm
> > Boyeros
> > Monserrate
> > http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/monserrate/index.htm
> > Empedrado http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/empedrado/index.htm
> > Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/puerto/index.htm del
> > Puerto
> > Calle Cuba http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/cuba/ind

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 10:07 pm
From: michaelgayoso1948@msn.com

==============================================================================
TOPIC: AN INDEPENDENT COMPROMISE BILL TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ae1bf8f474918554
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 10:08 pm
From: "Harbin"

-
"Just Looking" <skgaskhg@djfjtmwenrk.com> wrote in message news:x86dnWc2Mo319qPZRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> ONE - CLOSE THE BORDERS - The first step to securing our borders is to pass
> and enforce laws that punish residence in the United States without
> citizenship or a Visa as a felony crime.
>
> ARE YOU HIGH? WHO'S GONNA DO THAT? THE REPUGS JUST TOOK IT OFF! DEMS WON'T DO IT ...DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME AND OUR BANDWIDTH
>

This is how it works. The bill passes, the bastards are voted out of office, the new congress will repeal the bill,
a new bill will be proposed, and passed, and it will be a felony to cross the border.

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TOPIC: If Moses can devided the river, why can he find his way to the promise
land
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cf06912950880e6c
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 5:11 am
From: "Mexican Bandolero"

Not anymore, Doggies and Pallies.
Let's face it. You have no state of your own.
And that will be forever.
Israel is getting stronger and more powerful everyday.

MB
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"Salah Jafar" <codeman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Obu%f.10297$Fp4.6603@trnddc01...
I quit believing many things, since Jews been oppressing Palestinians, I say
where is God to punish these Parasite Bastards.
SJ

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TOPIC: Colorado: Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f1882ac30dc275
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 12:14 am
From: Alric Knebel

AlleyCat wrote:

> In article <123rldgm72j4i4e@corp.supernews.com>, alric@[cableone.net]
> says...
>
>>What's next? "Nanny nanny
>>poo poo"? Good job, Billy Bob.
>>
>>
>
>
> It's nanny, nanny boo boo . . . .

Here's my advantage over you, Tweety: you're a racist, and you have no
real meaning any more in civilized societies. So you can "poo poo" or
"boo boo," you're still an insignificant idiot.
--
Alric Knebel
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 12:17 am
From: Alric Knebel

AlleyCat wrote:

> In article <qqes32d3d6jop4l1moipufg9iho7kltd55@4ax.com>,
> lojbab@lojban.org muttered to himself...
>
>
>>A plural group pulled the trigger? That must have been some gun.
>>
>>lojbab
>>
>
>
> You know?... someone responded to one of my posts, by saying, "I'd bet
> it's low (my IQ), and something you already suspect (that would be
> SUSPECTED... so I'M the dumb one?)... Since YOU aren't that smart, you
> take pride in the fact that... "

Jesus, you prove my point. "Suspect" was correct.

>
> If anyone really wants to know what it's (TNB) like, ask. I live and
> work in the deep, deep South.
>
> Al

I do to. Piss off.
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Alric Knebel
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 10:25 pm
From: Alric Knebel

AlleyCat wrote:

> In article <123qb18f5i53t90@corp.supernews.com>, alric@[cableone.net]
> says...
>
>>Oh, oh. ANOTHER genius speaks up. Well, dipshit, I'm not IN a racist
>>newsgroup where I'm seeing this post. Why don't you save up your
>>money you spend on dues and buy yourself a clue. Now here you are,
>>jumping into this thread and this is what you've got. Let me tell you,
>>a comment displaying that much acumen just reaffirms my beliefs about
>>racists. Good job, Dicky. Bravo! We all like you more for it.
>
>
> My apologies to those stupid fucking morons that don't have the
> knowledge to use their rules to take out unwanted newsgroup so they
> don't have to suffer we racists...

That would be YOU, numbnuts. You piped up about that it was a racist
newsgroup without looking at the headers.

>or is it us racists? Anyway... yes...

No, you were correct the first time, "we."

> I DID call myself a racist. EVERYONE is racist.

All devout racists say that to make excuses for their racism. Racism is
a deep hatred.

> Especially blacks and
> Democrats. Ever heard of a modern day "White" Student Union? White
> Congressional Caucus? Get a fucking clue, moron... racists will ALWAYS
> exist, on all "sides of the aisle". You must be a racist too... why else
> would you be reading what's in "your" newsgroup?

I see why you're a racist now. You simply can't make sense of the real
world without broad categories to fit things into, so you can comprehend
them.

> Just curious to see
> what real people that are fed up with what's going on in America, are
> talking about? I don't think so... but then again, this "genius" doesn't
> HAVE to think much. He just watches and listens and pipes in when true
> morons speak. . . .

It's good that you stay within your limitations.

> Jack will concur... I don't get "in here" as much as I
> used to, because it gets way too "thick" in here sometimes, and what I
> post wouldn't make any difference to the dummies here that post their
> liberal nothingness. . . .

You will not be missed when you disappear again. You contributed
stupidity to this thread and nothing more. Right now, you're frothing
because you wanted to be a smartass, but out out-smartassed you.

> The ones spouting that liberal crap haven't a clue
> to what's going on. They watch CNN and think we live in a Utopian world
> and don't understand, through ignorance, why there are people who don't
> "like" other kinds of people. Just plain ignorant.

Nice rant, idiot racist. The entire rant was just typical right-wing
spew-shit.

--
Alric Knebel
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TOPIC: Senator Chuck Hagel wants a nuclear 911
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c71f65b23b999a66
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 10:17 pm
From: "fruitella"

Pakistan is #1 in exporting nuke material & terrorists around the
world. The technology will undoubtedly end up in the hands of rogue
nations (pakistan being the foremost) and not long after in the hands
of terrorists. If 3 pakistani nuclear scientists were crazy enough to
leave their jobs to join the taliban when US invaded afghanistan, just
think where the rest would be willing to go and do.

On the bright side, Hagel would have earned some good lobbying
commission.

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US-Pakistan nuclear deal possible: Hagel
By Shahzad Raza

ISLAMABAD: The United States might strike a deal for cooperation in
civilian nuclear technology with Pakistan some time in the future as it
recently has with India, US Senator Chuck Hagel said on Thursday.

Hagel also opposed the use of military force against Iran to freeze its
nuclear programme.

"There may be an agreement between the United States and Pakistan in
future on the nuclear issue, but I do not represent the United States
government," Hagel said at a press conference at the US Embassy
following meetings with President General Pervez Musharraf and Foreign
Minister Khurshid Kasuri, along with US Ambassador Ryan C Crocker.

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