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* La ONU insta a Irán a acabar con las torturas, ejecuciones y la
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TOPIC: La ONU insta a Irán a acabar con las torturas, ejecuciones y la
discriminación contra las mujeres Newsletter de ElDiarioExterior.com Nº 749. 2
de abril de 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/24885e48ab6fdfc4
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 11:44 pm
From: "PM"
La ONU insta a Irán a acabar con las torturas, ejecuciones y la
discriminación contra las mujeres
Irán una vida bajo el velo y el terror del régimen fundamentalista de
Ahmadinejad
La prisión de muchas mujeres que celebraron el Día Internacional de la
Mujeren Teherán no detuvo la batalla de las iraníes por equidad y
democracia, en un país que aplica algunas de las leyes más represivas y
discriminatorias del mundo. Bajo la sharia (ley islámica) que rige al país,
las mujeres tienen prohibido postularse a la presidencia, carecen de igual
derecho que los hombres para divorciarse y, tras el divorcio, pueden tener
la custodia de sus hijos solamente hasta que éstos tengan 7 años.
Zapatero pasará a la Historia como el presidente que rompió el
consenso constitucional
Acebes cree que Zapatero evitará el referéndum nacional porque "sabe
que perdería"
El secretario general del Partido Popular ha acusado este sábado al
PSOE de votar a favor de que España "deje de ser una única nación", en
referencia al sí que los socialistas han dado al Estatuto de Cataluña.
Las víctimas tenemos poca confianza en la tregua de ETA y en Zapatero
Alcaraz defiende el Pacto Antiterrorista "porque es la mayor garantía
de que no se pagará ningún precio
El presidente de la Asociación de Víctimas del Terrorismo, Francisco
José Alcaraz, destacó la importancia de que "se active de nuevo" el Pacto
por las Libertades y contra el Terrorismo porque es "la mayor garantía",
dado que en él queda patente que la libertad, la Paz y los Derechos Humanos
son valores "innegociables".
Revisará la legislación de los 25 estados miembros
La CE pide a la UE garantizar los derechos laborales de los
trabajadores desplazados
La Comisión Europea presentará una comunicación sobre el régimen
laboral de los trabajadores europeos desplazados temporalmente para ofrecer
un servicio en otro Estado miembro y abrirá un periodo de un año en el que
quiere asegurarse de que los países de la UE cumplen la ley que les obliga a
otorgarles similares derechos laborales que a sus propios ciudadanos.
Temen que las protestas puedan dañar la imagen de Francia y golpear la
inversión y el turismo
Los líderes franceses instan al diálogo sobre la ley laboral ante la
escalada de violencia
Los asediados líderes franceses instaron el sábado a los estudiantes y
sindicatos a negociar después de que el anuncio del presidente Jacques
Chirac de presentar enmiendas para modificar la controvertida ley laboral
juvenil no pusiera fin a semanas de manifestaciones y violencia.
Wenceslao Cruz Blanco
El líder religioso que adoran Chávez y Castro
El controvertido líder, un fanático y reconocido antisemita, ya
en el año 1997 en Harlem declaró: «Se ha decretado la pena de muerte contra
EE.UU.: el juicio de Dios se ha hecho y EE.UU. debe ser destruido», y
durante su visita a Irán aseguró que «Dios destruirá EE.UU. por mano de los
musulmanes. Dios no dará este honor al Japón ni a Europa. Es un honor que
reservará a los musulmanes».
Santi Lucas
El Apoyo Internacional para la Paz
Seguramente, Rodríguez Zapatero ha buscado una primera reválida
testimonial fuera de España, desde donde se puede siempre mejorar la
cooperación contra el terrorismo, pero desde donde no se puede sustituir la
prudencia, la idoneidad de los pasos que se van a dar, ni se pueden importar
tampoco de forma mimética otros procesos que guardan tantas similitudes como
diferencias esenciales con la situación del terrorismo en nuestro país.
Pablo de San Román
El sentido de la democracia en América Latina
Sartori dice que, antes que nada, la democracia consiste en una
limitación del Estado con respecto al individuo. O mejor dicho, en la
posibilidad de los ciudadanos de ejercer una limitación sobre una estructura
superior, que tiende, si no se la limita, a concentrar poder. Dicha
concentración constituye la principal desgracia de toda sociedad y el
principal obstáculo para una verdadera experimentación democrática.
Carlos Alberto Montaner
España y el costo de la paz
Los acuerdos entre el gobierno de Zapatero y los nacionalistas
catalanes, refrendados por el parlamento español apenas unas horas antes de
la tregua decretada por los terroristas vascos, le abren la puerta a una
eventual secesión política del territorio. Nunca como ahora ha sido tan
clara la posibilidad que tienen catalanes y vascos nacionalistas de alcanzar
a medio plazo la independencia por vías pacíficas.
Israel se cita con las urnas bajo la sombra de Sharón y las amenazas de
Hamás e Irán
Rajoy pedirá a Zapatero que las víctimas sean protagonistas en
el proceso de paz
Los terroristas de Hamás están dispuestos a dialogar con el
Cuarteto para solucionar el conflicto en Oriente Medio
El Partido Popular avisa que exigirá a Zapatero el cumplimiento
del Pacto Antiterrorista
Straw se muestra confiado de que EEUU, Europa y China llegarán a
un acuerdo sobre Irán en Berlín
Zapatero destaca que la reunión es "un buen primer paso" para
recuperar la confianza entre el Gobierno y el PP
La Unión Europea está dispuesta a trabajar con el nuevo Gobierno
israelí hacia la paz
Aznar: para vencer el terrorismo Europa debe defender sus
valores "sin complejos"
El Cuarteto amenaza al Gobierno de Hamás con cortar las ayudas
El Consejo de Seguridad de la ONU da 30 días a Irán para que
suspenda el enriquecimiento de uranio
El desinformado electorado de Israel
Caroline Glick
Primero fueron a por los judíos...
Mark Steyn
¿Irán? Ni de lejos problema de Israel exclusivamente
Amir Taheri
¿Comida por bombas atómicas?
Claudia Rosett
¿Estamos ganando la Guerra contra el Terror?
Phyllis Chesler
¿La democracia pone fin a la tiranía?
Natan Sharansky
Daniel Pipes
La indiferencia de la Casa Blanca
Cuente con que la administración Bush continúe haciendo de Oriente
Medio el centro de su política exterior. También cuente con que sus
estrategias continúen básicamente sin cambios – a pesar de su variado
historial hasta la fecha. El informe minimiza la amenaza del islam radical a
través de la ficción de que "una religión orgullosa" ha sido "retorcida y
modificada para servir a un mal".
Andrés Mejía Vergnaud
¿Problemas de salud? Pruebe el libre comercio
El libre comercio estimula en gran medida el crecimiento económico, el
cual es a su vez indispensable para crear riqueza. Y a mayor riqueza,
mejores condiciones de salud. De hecho, los más grandes avances en salud que
ha hecho la humanidad han venido de la mano con el progreso económico.
Los periodistas son valientes (a menos que el tema sea el islam)
James Lileks
La supresión de la libertad de Beijing
Robert T. McLean
Si el rey del pop se convierte el islam
Daniel Pipes
Sueños Americanos, Banderas Extranjeras
Linda Chávez/New York Times
Tres musulmanes, que entran en un puerto...
Ann Coulter
Imagina ser una mujer...
Badria al Bisher
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TOPIC: La ONU insta a Irán a acabar con las torturas, ejecuciones y la
discriminación contra las mujeres
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3ac1811c86018059
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 11:44 pm
From: "PM"
Newsletter de ElDiarioExterior.com
Nº 749. 2 de abril de 2006
Irán una vida bajo el velo y el terror del régimen
fundamentalista de Ahmadinejad
La prisión de muchas mujeres que celebraron el Día Internacional de la
Mujeren Teherán no detuvo la batalla de las iraníes por equidad y
democracia, en un país que aplica algunas de las leyes más represivas y
discriminatorias del mundo. Bajo la sharia (ley islámica) que rige al país,
las mujeres tienen prohibido postularse a la presidencia, carecen de igual
derecho que los hombres para divorciarse y, tras el divorcio, pueden tener
la custodia de sus hijos solamente hasta que éstos tengan 7 años.
Zapatero pasará a la Historia como el presidente que rompió el
consenso constitucional
Acebes cree que Zapatero evitará el referéndum nacional porque "sabe
que perdería"
El secretario general del Partido Popular ha acusado este sábado al
PSOE de votar a favor de que España "deje de ser una única nación", en
referencia al sí que los socialistas han dado al Estatuto de Cataluña.
Las víctimas tenemos poca confianza en la tregua de ETA y en Zapatero
Alcaraz defiende el Pacto Antiterrorista "porque es la mayor garantía
de que no se pagará ningún precio
El presidente de la Asociación de Víctimas del Terrorismo, Francisco
José Alcaraz, destacó la importancia de que "se active de nuevo" el Pacto
por las Libertades y contra el Terrorismo porque es "la mayor garantía",
dado que en él queda patente que la libertad, la Paz y los Derechos Humanos
son valores "innegociables".
Revisará la legislación de los 25 estados miembros
La CE pide a la UE garantizar los derechos laborales de los
trabajadores desplazados
La Comisión Europea presentará una comunicación sobre el régimen
laboral de los trabajadores europeos desplazados temporalmente para ofrecer
un servicio en otro Estado miembro y abrirá un periodo de un año en el que
quiere asegurarse de que los países de la UE cumplen la ley que les obliga a
otorgarles similares derechos laborales que a sus propios ciudadanos.
Temen que las protestas puedan dañar la imagen de Francia y golpear la
inversión y el turismo
Los líderes franceses instan al diálogo sobre la ley laboral ante la
escalada de violencia
Los asediados líderes franceses instaron el sábado a los estudiantes y
sindicatos a negociar después de que el anuncio del presidente Jacques
Chirac de presentar enmiendas para modificar la controvertida ley laboral
juvenil no pusiera fin a semanas de manifestaciones y violencia.
Wenceslao Cruz Blanco
El líder religioso que adoran Chávez y Castro
El controvertido líder, un fanático y reconocido antisemita, ya
en el año 1997 en Harlem declaró: «Se ha decretado la pena de muerte contra
EE.UU.: el juicio de Dios se ha hecho y EE.UU. debe ser destruido», y
durante su visita a Irán aseguró que «Dios destruirá EE.UU. por mano de los
musulmanes. Dios no dará este honor al Japón ni a Europa. Es un honor que
reservará a los musulmanes».
Santi Lucas
El Apoyo Internacional para la Paz
Seguramente, Rodríguez Zapatero ha buscado una primera reválida
testimonial fuera de España, desde donde se puede siempre mejorar la
cooperación contra el terrorismo, pero desde donde no se puede sustituir la
prudencia, la idoneidad de los pasos que se van a dar, ni se pueden importar
tampoco de forma mimética otros procesos que guardan tantas similitudes como
diferencias esenciales con la situación del terrorismo en nuestro país.
Pablo de San Román
El sentido de la democracia en América Latina
Sartori dice que, antes que nada, la democracia consiste en una
limitación del Estado con respecto al individuo. O mejor dicho, en la
posibilidad de los ciudadanos de ejercer una limitación sobre una estructura
superior, que tiende, si no se la limita, a concentrar poder. Dicha
concentración constituye la principal desgracia de toda sociedad y el
principal obstáculo para una verdadera experimentación democrática.
Carlos Alberto Montaner
España y el costo de la paz
Los acuerdos entre el gobierno de Zapatero y los nacionalistas
catalanes, refrendados por el parlamento español apenas unas horas antes de
la tregua decretada por los terroristas vascos, le abren la puerta a una
eventual secesión política del territorio. Nunca como ahora ha sido tan
clara la posibilidad que tienen catalanes y vascos nacionalistas de alcanzar
a medio plazo la independencia por vías pacíficas.
Israel se cita con las urnas bajo la sombra de Sharón y las amenazas de
Hamás e Irán
Rajoy pedirá a Zapatero que las víctimas sean protagonistas en
el proceso de paz
Los terroristas de Hamás están dispuestos a dialogar con el
Cuarteto para solucionar el conflicto en Oriente Medio
El Partido Popular avisa que exigirá a Zapatero el cumplimiento
del Pacto Antiterrorista
Straw se muestra confiado de que EEUU, Europa y China llegarán a
un acuerdo sobre Irán en Berlín
Zapatero destaca que la reunión es "un buen primer paso" para
recuperar la confianza entre el Gobierno y el PP
La Unión Europea está dispuesta a trabajar con el nuevo Gobierno
israelí hacia la paz
Aznar: para vencer el terrorismo Europa debe defender sus
valores "sin complejos"
El Cuarteto amenaza al Gobierno de Hamás con cortar las ayudas
El Consejo de Seguridad de la ONU da 30 días a Irán para que
suspenda el enriquecimiento de uranio
El desinformado electorado de Israel
Caroline Glick
Primero fueron a por los judíos...
Mark Steyn
¿Irán? Ni de lejos problema de Israel exclusivamente
Amir Taheri
¿Comida por bombas atómicas?
Claudia Rosett
¿Estamos ganando la Guerra contra el Terror?
Phyllis Chesler
¿La democracia pone fin a la tiranía?
Natan Sharansky
Daniel Pipes
La indiferencia de la Casa Blanca
Cuente con que la administración Bush continúe haciendo de Oriente
Medio el centro de su política exterior. También cuente con que sus
estrategias continúen básicamente sin cambios – a pesar de su variado
historial hasta la fecha. El informe minimiza la amenaza del islam radical a
través de la ficción de que "una religión orgullosa" ha sido "retorcida y
modificada para servir a un mal".
Andrés Mejía Vergnaud
¿Problemas de salud? Pruebe el libre comercio
El libre comercio estimula en gran medida el crecimiento económico, el
cual es a su vez indispensable para crear riqueza. Y a mayor riqueza,
mejores condiciones de salud. De hecho, los más grandes avances en salud que
ha hecho la humanidad han venido de la mano con el progreso económico.
Los periodistas son valientes (a menos que el tema sea el islam)
James Lileks
La supresión de la libertad de Beijing
Robert T. McLean
Si el rey del pop se convierte el islam
Daniel Pipes
Sueños Americanos, Banderas Extranjeras
Linda Chávez/New York Times
Tres musulmanes, que entran en un puerto...
Ann Coulter
Imagina ser una mujer...
Badria al Bisher
Esta newsletter es el boletín gratuito de ElDiarioExterior.com enviado
a la dirección de correo: pedro1940@progression.net. Si quiere dejar de
recibir este correo, pinche aquí y recibirá un mensaje para confirmar su
baja.
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TOPIC: Greeks return to civilisation
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/47d5c9e7dbd11225
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 9:05 pm
From: "umu"
The Greek Spammers have stopped their action.
What on hell suddently happened to you all dumbos?
He he he he he!!! :-)))
FYI: from now on all Greeks must begin to communicate like humans on
the net, no more like wild animals as in the past!
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TOPIC: 30 Days As A Muslim In America
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/58818a3e346bc1fb
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 11:14 pm
From: AnonMoos
"America Has Replaced Collapsed Ottoman Empire" <america_has_replaced_collapsed_ottoman_empire@yahoo.com> (Umm Alfalfa) wrote:
> 30 Days As A Muslim In America
> Morgan Spurlock, director of the documentary Supersize Me! sends David
> Stacy, a practicing Christian from Virginia, to "work, eat, and sleep" as a
> Muslim in "the heart of Muslim America, Dearborn, Michigan."
But if he said the Shahada in front of witnesses, then according to Islamic
law he converted to Islam -- and if he's no longer living as a Muslim, then
according to your view, he's now an apostate deserving of death!
--
The non-Dhimmi affirmation (9:29): لن نعطي
الجزية ولسنا
صاغرين (٢٩ We will fight for
our freedom! Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
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TOPIC: World War III NEWS, Monday, April 3rd, 2006 AD.....
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dbe2af83561f091e
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 9:18 pm
From: "The Last 2452 days™ ♥"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/04/02/wiran02.xml
Government in secret talks about strike against Iran
By Sean Rayment, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 02/04/2006)
The Government is to hold secret talks with defence chiefs tomorrow
(April 3rd, 2006 !!! ) to discuss possible military strikes against
Iran.
A high-level meeting will take place in the Ministry of Defence at
which senior defence chiefs and government officials will consider the
consequences of an attack on Iran.
It is believed that an American-led attack, designed to destroy Iran's
ability to develop a nuclear bomb, is "inevitable" if Teheran's leaders
fail to comply with United Nations demands to freeze their uranium
enrichment programme.
A high-level meeting will take place in the Ministry of Defence
Tomorrow's meeting will be attended by Gen Sir Michael Walker, the
chief of the defence staff, Lt Gen Andrew Ridgway, the chief of defence
intelligence and Maj Gen Bill Rollo, the assistant chief of the general
staff, together with officials from the Foreign Office and Downing
Street.
The International Atomic Energy Authority, the nuclear watchdog,
believes that much of Iran's programme is now devoted to uranium
enrichment and plutonium separation, technologies that could provide
material for nuclear bombs to be developed in the next three years.
The United States government is hopeful that the military operation
will be a multinational mission, but defence chiefs believe that the
Bush administration is prepared to launch the attack on its own or with
the assistance of Israel, if there is little international support.
British military chiefs believe an attack would be limited to a series
of air strikes against nuclear plants - a land assault is not being
considered at the moment.
But confirmation that Britain has started contingency planning will
undermine the claim last month by Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary,
that a military attack against Iran was "inconceivable".
Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, insisted, during a visit
to Blackburn yesterday, that all negotiating options - including the
use of force - remained open in an attempt to resolve the crisis.
General Sir Michael Walker
Tactical Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from US navy ships and
submarines in the Gulf would, it is believed, target Iran's air defence
systems at the nuclear installations.
That would enable attacks by B2 stealth bombers equipped with eight
4,500lb enhanced BLU-28 satellite-guided bunker-busting bombs, flying
from Diego Garcia, the isolated US Navy base in the Indian Ocean, RAF
Fairford in Gloucestershire and Whiteman USAF base in Missouri.
It is understood that any direct British involvement in an attack would
be limited but may extend to the use of the RAF's highly secret
airborne early warning aircraft.
At the centre of the crisis is Washington's fear that an Iranian
nuclear weapon could be used against Israel or US forces in the region,
such as the American air base at Incirlik in Turkey.
The UN also believes that the production of a bomb could also lead to
further destabilisation in the Middle East, which would result in
Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia all developing nuclear weapons
programmes.
Click to enlarge
A senior Foreign Office source said: "Monday's meeting will set out to
address the consequences for Britain in the event of an attack against
Iran. The CDS [chiefs of defence staff] will want to know what the
impact will be on British interests in Iraq and Afghanistan which both
border Iran. The CDS will then brief the Prime Minister and the Cabinet
on their conclusions in the next few days.
"If Iran makes another strategic mistake, such as ignoring demands by
the UN or future resolutions, then the thinking among the chiefs is
that military action could be taken to bring an end to the crisis. The
belief in some areas of Whitehall is that an attack is now all but
inevitable.
There will be no invasion of Iran but the nuclear sites will be
destroyed. This is not something that will happen imminently, maybe
this year, maybe next year. Jack Straw is making exactly the same
noises that the Government did in March 2003 when it spoke about the
likelihood of a war in Iraq.
"Then the Government said the war was neither inevitable or imminent
and then attacked."
The source said that the Israeli attack against Iraq's Osirak nuclear
reactor in 1981 proved that a limited operation was the best military
option.
The Israeli air force launched raids against the plant, which
intelligence suggested was being used to develop a nuclear bomb for use
against Israel.
Military chiefs also plan tomorrow to discuss fears that an attack
within Iran will "unhinge" southern Iraq - where British troops are
based - an area mainly populated by Shia Muslims who have strong
political and religious links to Iran.
They are concerned that this could delay any withdrawal of troops this
year or next. There could also be consequences for British and US
troops in Afghanistan, which borders Iran.
The MoD meeting will address the economic issues that could arise if
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president - who became the subject of
international condemnation last year when he called for Israel to be
"wiped off the map" - cuts off oil supplies to the West in reprisal.
There are thought to be at least eight known sites within Iran involved
in the production of nuclear materials, although it is generally
accepted that there are many more secret installations.
Iran has successfully tested a Fajr-3 missile that can reach Israel,
avoiding radar and hitting several targets using multiple warheads, its
military has confirmed.
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TOPIC: Caracas, domingo 02 de abril, 2006 Recaudación de marzo fue 5,7
billones
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Date: Mon, Apr 3 2006 12:03 am
From: "PM"
Noticias en tu Correo
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Economía
El Servicio Nacional Integrado de Administración
Tributaria (Seniat) en el mes de marzo registró una recaudación de 5,7
billones de bolívares.
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Emprendedores
Desde hace unos siete años, Gaby Arenas se ha dedicado al área
de Relaciones Públicas y producción ejecutiva para teatro y espectáculos. A
partir de allí se especializó en estudiar las estrategias de marketing y
comunicaciones que convierten una iniciativa cultural en un éxito comercial.
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CAN solicita ayuda urgente para diálogo
En aras de preservar la unidad de los países del bloque, el
secretario general de la Comunidad Andina, Allan Wagner Tizón, se dirigió
por escrito a los cinco jefes de Estado de los países miembros invocando su
liderazgo para renovar un consenso político comunitario "a fin de resolver
los problemas que se han presentado en el proceso andino de integración" y
solicitó al presidente de Bolivia, Evo Morales, que concrete su iniciativa
de invitar a una reunión de presidentes de la CAN.
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Chávez decidirá control a inmuebles
Los precios de las viviendas no escaparán al control del
Gobierno. En manos del presidente Hugo Chávez Frías está la aprobación de un
esquema de estabilización de los valores de los inmuebles.
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Paraguay alcanza acuerdo de precios para suministro de gasoil de
Pdvsa
Asunción. Petróleos de Venezuela resolvió reducir en más de 8
dólares por metro cúbico la venta de gasoil a Paraguay para no perder el
negocio ante mejores ofertas presentadas por sus competidores, dijo AP.
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Alivio de la deuda colma agenda de reunión del BID
Belo Horizonte. Los líderes de la economía pública de
Latinoamérica y el Caribe comenzaron a discutir en Brasil cómo el Banco
Interamericano de Desarrollo puede contribuir eficientemente a mejorar la
débil infraestructura regional, fortalecer las economías y promover la
integración continental, dijo AP.
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Gobierno extendió la inamovilidad hasta el 30 de septiembre
El ministro del Trabajo, Ricardo Dorado, anunció ayer que la
inamovilidad laboral será extendida hasta el 30 de septiembre de este año;
es decir, por seis meses más.
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Advierten sobre efectos de corte petrolero a EEUU
Washington. La subsecretaria de Energía, Karen Harbert, dijo que
"Venezuela se vería más afectada que Estados Unidos" de interrumpir los
ingresos generados por la exportación de petróleo a Estados Unidos, al
evaluar una posible alianza entre Venezuela e Irán, durante la discusión de
expertos Energía bajo Amenaza en el Hemisferio Occidental, organizada por la
Heritage Foundation.
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Próxima semana inician censo a amas de casa
La próxima semana se iniciará en todo el país un censo de amas
de casa, a fin de determinar aquellas que serán beneficiadas por la Misión
Madres del Barrio, según informó el titular del despacho laboral, Ricardo
Dorado.
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Sin firmar acuerdo Total y ENI
Total y Eni fueron las dos empresas que este viernes no firmaron
en Miraflores el memorando de entendimiento que marca el inicio de la
migración a empresas mixtas, en las cuales Pdvsa tendrá la participación
mayoritaria.
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El pescado se encarece un 59%
Otra Semana Santa se aproxima, y entre los rezos de los
feligreses seguramente se colará una plegaria pidiendo que el precio del
pescado no suba, precisamente, hasta el cielo.
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Inside Telecom
Cantv ha solicitado permiso a Conatel para ofrecer servicios de
televisión y video a través de su infraestructura de redes físicas.
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En marzo la inflación se acelera a 0,9% impulsada por sector
servicios
La inflación oficial en marzo, de acuerdo a las cifras del Banco
Central de Venezuela, fue ligeramente superior a la del mes anterior.
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TOPIC: The Hispanic Challenge to America - Long, Important Read
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 11:23 pm
From: Just another American
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The Hispanic Challenge
By Samuel P. Huntington
March/April 2004
The persistent inflow of Hispanic immigrants threatens to divide the
United States into two peoples, two cultures, and two languages.
Unlike past immigrant groups, Mexicans and other Latinos have not
assimilated into mainstream U.S. culture, forming instead their own
political and linguistic enclaves-from Los Angeles to Miami-and
rejecting the Anglo-Protestant values that built the American dream.
The United States ignores this challenge at its peril.
America was created by 17th- and 18th-century settlers who were
overwhelmingly white, British, and Protestant. Their values,
institutions, and culture provided the foundation for and shaped the
development of the United States in the following centuries. They
initially defined America in terms of race, ethnicity, culture, and
religion. Then, in the 18th century, they also had to define America
ideologically to justify independence from their home country, which
was also white, British, and Protestant. Thomas Jefferson set forth
this "creed," as Nobel Prize-winning economist Gunnar Myrdal called
it, in the Declaration of Independence, and ever since, its principles
have been reiterated by statesmen and espoused by the public as an
essential component of U.S. identity.
By the latter years of the 19th century, however, the ethnic component
had been broadened to include Germans, Irish, and Scandinavians, and
the United States' religious identity was being redefined more broadly
from Protestant to Christian. With World War II and the assimilation
of large numbers of southern and eastern European immigrants and their
offspring into U.S. society, ethnicity virtually disappeared as a
defining component of national identity. So did race, following the
achievements of the civil rights movement and the Immigration and
Nationality Act of 1965. Americans now see and endorse their country
as multiethnic and multiracial. As a result, American identity is now
defined in terms of culture and creed.
Most Americans see the creed as the crucial element of their national
identity. The creed, however, was the product of the distinct
Anglo-Protestant culture of the founding settlers. Key elements of
that culture include the English language; Christianity; religious
commitment; English concepts of the rule of law, including the
responsibility of rulers and the rights of individuals; and dissenting
Protestant values of individualism, the work ethic, and the belief
that humans have the ability and the duty to try to create a heaven on
earth, a "city on a hill." Historically, millions of immigrants were
attracted to the United States because of this culture and the
economic opportunities and political liberties it made possible.
Contributions from immigrant cultures modified and enriched the
Anglo-Protestant culture of the founding settlers. The essentials of
that founding culture remained the bedrock of U.S. identity, however,
at least until the last decades of the 20th century. Would the United
States be the country that it has been and that it largely remains
today if it had been settled in the 17th and 18th centuries not by
British Protestants but by French, Spanish, or Portuguese Catholics?
The answer is clearly no. It would not be the United States; it would
be Quebec, Mexico, or Brazil.
In the final decades of the 20th century, however, the United States'
Anglo-Protestant culture and the creed that it produced came under
assault by the popularity in intellectual and political circles of the
doctrines of multiculturalism and diversity; the rise of group
identities based on race, ethnicity, and gender over national
identity; the impact of transnational cultural diasporas; the
expanding number of immigrants with dual nationalities and dual
loyalties; and the growing salience for U.S. intellectual, business,
and political elites of cosmopolitan and transnational identities. The
United States' national identity, like that of other nation-states, is
challenged by the forces of globalization as well as the needs that
globalization produces among people for smaller and more meaningful
"blood and belief" identities.
In this new era, the single most immediate and most serious challenge
to America's traditional identity comes from the immense and
continuing immigration from Latin America, especially from Mexico, and
the fertility rates of these immigrants compared to black and white
American natives. Americans like to boast of their past success in
assimilating millions of immigrants into their society, culture, and
politics. But Americans have tended to generalize about immigrants
without distinguishing among them and have focused on the economic
costs and benefits of immigration, ignoring its social and cultural
consequences. As a result, they have overlooked the unique
characteristics and problems posed by contemporary Hispanic
immigration. The extent and nature of this immigration differ
fundamentally from those of previous immigration, and the assimilation
successes of the past are unlikely to be duplicated with the
contemporary flood of immigrants from Latin America. This reality
poses a fundamental question: Will the United States remain a country
with a single national language and a core Anglo-Protestant culture?
By ignoring this question, Americans acquiesce to their eventual
transformation into two peoples with two cultures (Anglo and Hispanic)
and two languages (English and Spanish).
The impact of Mexican immigration on the United States becomes evident
when one imagines what would happen if Mexican immigration abruptly
stopped. The annual flow of legal immigrants would drop by about
175,000, closer to the level recommended by the 1990s Commission on
Immigration Reform chaired by former U.S. Congresswoman Barbara
Jordan. Illegal entries would diminish dramatically. The wages of
low-income U.S. citizens would improve. Debates over the use of
Spanish and whether English should be made the official language of
state and national governments would subside. Bilingual education and
the controversies it spawns would virtually disappear, as would
controversies over welfare and other benefits for immigrants. The
debate over whether immigrants pose an economic burden on state and
federal governments would be decisively resolved in the negative. The
average education and skills of the immigrants continuing to arrive
would reach their highest levels in U.S. history. The inflow of
immigrants would again become highly diverse, creating increased
incentives for all immigrants to learn English and absorb U.S.
culture. And most important of all, the possibility of a de facto
split between a predominantly Spanish-speaking United States and an
English-speaking United States would disappear, and with it, a major
potential threat to the country's cultural and political integrity.
A World of difference
Contemporary Mexican and, more broadly, Latin American immigration is
without precedent in U.S. history. The experience and lessons of past
immigration have little relevance to understanding its dynamics and
consequences. Mexican immigration differs from past immigration and
most other contemporary immigration due to a combination of six
factors: contiguity, scale, illegality, regional concentration,
persistence, and historical presence.
Contiguity | Americans' idea of immigration is often symbolized by the
Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island, and, more recently perhaps, New
York's John F. Kennedy Airport. In other words, immigrants arrive in
the United States after crossing several thousand miles of ocean. U.S.
attitudes toward immigrants and U.S. immigration policies are shaped
by such images. These assumptions and policies, however, have little
or no relevance for Mexican immigration. The United States is now
confronted by a massive influx of people from a poor, contiguous
country with more than one third the population of the United States.
They come across a 2,000-mile border historically marked simply by a
line in the ground and a shallow river.
This situation is unique for the United States and the world. No other
First World country has such an extensive land frontier with a Third
World country. The significance of the long Mexican-U.S. border is
enhanced by the economic differences between the two countries. "The
income gap between the United States and Mexico," Stanford University
historian David Kennedy has pointed out, "is the largest between any
two contiguous countries in the world." Contiguity enables Mexican
immigrants to remain in intimate contact with their families, friends,
and home localities in Mexico as no other immigrants have been able to
do.
Scale | The causes of Mexican, as well as other, immigration are found
in the demographic, economic, and political dynamics of the sending
country and the economic, political, and social attractions of the
United States. Contiguity, however, obviously encourages immigration.
Mexican immigration increased steadily after 1965. About 640,000
Mexicans legally migrated to the United States in the 1970s; 1,656,000
in the 1980s; and 2,249,000 in the 1990s. In those three decades,
Mexicans accounted for 14 percent, 23 percent, and 25 percent of total
legal immigration. These percentages do not equal the rates of
immigrants who came from Ireland between 1820 and 1860, or from
Germany in the 1850s and 1860s. Yet they are high compared to the
highly dispersed sources of immigrants before World War I, and
compared to other contemporary immigrants. To them one must also add
the huge numbers of Mexicans who each year enter the United States
illegally. Since the 1960s, the numbers of foreign-born people in the
United States have expanded immensely, with Asians and Latin Americans
replacing Europeans and Canadians, and diversity of source
dramatically giving way to the dominance of one source: Mexico.
Mexican immigrants constituted 27.6 percent of the total foreign-born
U.S. population in 2000. The next largest contingents, Chinese and
Filipinos, amounted to only 4.9 percent and 4.3 percent of the
foreign-born population.
In the 1990s, Mexicans composed more than half of the new Latin
American immigrants to the United States and, by 2000, Hispanics
totaled about one half of all migrants entering the continental United
States. Hispanics composed 12 percent of the total U.S. population in
2000. This group increased by almost 10 percent from 2000 to 2002 and
has now become larger than blacks. It is estimated Hispanics may
constitute up to 25 percent of the U.S. population by 2050. These
changes are driven not just by immigration but also by fertility. In
2002, fertility rates in the United States were estimated at 1.8 for
non-Hispanic whites, 2.1 for blacks, and 3.0 for Hispanics. "This is
the characteristic shape of developing countries," The Economist
commented in 2002. "As the bulge of Latinos enters peak child-bearing
age in a decade or two, the Latino share of America's population will
soar."
In the mid-19th century, English speakers from the British Isles
dominated immigration into the United States. The pre-World War I
immigration was highly diversified linguistically, including many
speakers of Italian, Polish, Russian, Yiddish, English, German,
Swedish, and other languages. But now, for the first time in U.S.
history, half of those entering the United States speak a single
non-English language.
Illegality | Illegal entry into the United States is overwhelmingly a
post-1965 and Mexican phenomenon. For almost a century after the
adoption of the U.S. Constitution, no national laws restricted or
prohibited immigration, and only a few states imposed modest limits.
During the following 90 years, illegal immigration was minimal and
easily controlled. The 1965 immigration law, the increased
availability of transportation, and the intensified forces promoting
Mexican emigration drastically changed this situation. Apprehensions
by the U.S. Border Patrol rose from 1.6 million in the 1960s to 8.3
million in the 1970s, 11.9 million in the 1980s, and 14.7 million in
the 1990s. Estimates of the Mexicans who successfully enter illegally
each year range from 105,000 (according to a binational
Mexican-American commission) to 350,000 during the 1990s (according to
the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service).
The 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act contained provisions to
legalize the status of existing illegal immigrants and to reduce
future illegal immigration through employer sanctions and other means.
The former goal was achieved: Some 3.1 million illegal immigrants,
about 90 percent of them from Mexico, became legal "green card"
residents of the United States. But the latter goal remains elusive.
Estimates of the total number of illegal immigrants in the United
States rose from 4 million in 1995 to 6 million in 1998, to 7 million
in 2000, and to between 8 and 10 million by 2003. Mexicans accounted
for 58 percent of the total illegal population in the United States in
1990; by 2000, an estimated 4.8 million illegal Mexicans made up 69
percent of that population. In 2000, illegal Mexicans in the United
States were 25 times as numerous as the next largest contingent, from
El Salvador.
Regional Concentration | The U.S. Founding Fathers considered the
dispersion of immigrants essential to their assimilation. That has
been the pattern historically and continues to be the pattern for most
contemporary non-Hispanic immigrants. Hispanics, however, have tended
to concentrate regionally: Mexicans in Southern California, Cubans in
Miami, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans (the last of whom are not
technically immigrants) in New York. The more concentrated immigrants
become, the slower and less complete is their assimilation.
In the 1990s, the proportions of Hispanics continued to grow in these
regions of heaviest concentration. At the same time, Mexicans and
other Hispanics were also establishing beachheads elsewhere. While the
absolute numbers are often small, the states with the largest
percentage increases in Hispanic population between 1990 and 2000
were, in decreasing order: North Carolina (449 percent increase),
Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Nevada, and Alabama (222
percent). Hispanics have also established concentrations in individual
cities and towns throughout the United States. For example, in 2003,
more than 40 percent of the population of Hartford, Connecticut, was
Hispanic (primarily Puerto Rican), outnumbering the city's 38 percent
black population. "Hartford," the city's first Hispanic mayor
proclaimed, "has become a Latin city, so to speak. It's a sign of
things to come," with Spanish increasingly used as the language of
commerce and government.
The biggest concentrations of Hispanics, however, are in the
Southwest, particularly California. In 2000, nearly two thirds of
Mexican immigrants lived in the West, and nearly half in California.
To be sure, the Los Angeles area has immigrants from many countries,
including Korea and Vietnam. The sources of California's foreign-born
population, however, differ sharply from those of the rest of the
country, with those from a single country, Mexico, exceeding totals
for all of the immigrants from Europe and Asia. In Los Angeles,
Hispanics-overwhelmingly Mexican-far outnumber other groups. In 2000,
64 percent of the Hispanics in Los Angeles were of Mexican origin, and
46.5 percent of Los Angeles residents were Hispanic, while 29.7
percent were non-Hispanic whites. By 2010, it is estimated that
Hispanics will make up more than half of the Los Angeles population.
Most immigrant groups have higher fertility rates than natives, and
hence the impact of immigration is felt heavily in schools. The highly
diversified immigration into New York, for example, creates the
problem of teachers dealing with classes containing students who may
speak 20 different languages at home. In contrast, Hispanic children
make up substantial majorities of the students in the schools in many
Southwestern cities. "No school system in a major U.S. city,"
political scientists Katrina Burgess and Abraham Lowenthal said of Los
Angeles in their 1993 study of Mexico-California ties, "has ever
experienced such a large influx of students from a single foreign
country. The schools of Los Angeles are becoming Mexican." By 2002,
more than 70 percent of the students in the Los Angeles Unified School
District were Hispanic, predominantly Mexican, with the proportion
increasing steadily; 10 percent of schoolchildren were non-Hispanic
whites. In 2003, for the first time since the 1850s, a majority of
newborn children in California were Hispanic.
Persistence | Previous waves of immigrants eventually subsided, the
proportions coming from individual countries fluctuated greatly, and,
after 1924, immigration was reduced to a trickle. In contrast, the
current wave shows no sign of ebbing and the conditions creating the
large Mexican component of that wave are likely to endure, absent a
major war or recession. In the long term, Mexican immigration could
decline when the economic well-being of Mexico approximates that of
the United States. As of 2002, however, U.S. gross domestic product
per capita was about four times that of Mexico (in purchasing power
parity terms). If that difference were cut in half, the economic
incentives for migration might also drop substantially. To reach that
ratio in any meaningful future, however, would require extremely rapid
economic growth in Mexico, at a rate greatly exceeding that of the
United States. Yet, even such dramatic economic development would not
necessarily reduce the impulse to emigrate. During the 19th century,
when Europe was rapidly industrializing and per capita incomes were
rising, 50 million Europeans emigrated to the Americas, Asia, and
Africa.
Historical Presence | No other immigrant group in U.S. history has
asserted or could assert a historical claim to U.S. territory.
Mexicans and Mexican Americans can and do make that claim. Almost all
of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, and Utah was part
of Mexico until Mexico lost them as a result of the Texan War of
Independence in 1835-1836 and the Mexican-American War of 1846-1848.
Mexico is the only country that the United States has invaded,
occupied its capital-placing the Marines in the "halls of
Montezuma"-and then annexed half its territory. Mexicans do not forget
these events. Quite understandably, they feel that they have special
rights in these territories. "Unlike other immigrants," Boston College
political scientist Peter Skerry notes, "Mexicans arrive here from a
neighboring nation that has suffered military defeat at the hands of
the United States; and they settle predominantly in a region that was
once part of their homeland…. Mexican Americans enjoy a sense of being
on their own turf that is not shared by other immigrants."
At times, scholars have suggested that the Southwest could become the
United States' Quebec. Both regions include Catholic people and were
conquered by Anglo-Protestant peoples, but otherwise they have little
in common. Quebec is 3,000 miles from France, and each year several
hundred thousand Frenchmen do not attempt to enter Quebec legally or
illegally. History shows that serious potential for conflict exists
when people in one country begin referring to territory in a
neighboring country in proprietary terms and to assert special rights
and claims to that territory.
Spanglish as a Second Language
In the past, immigrants originated overseas and often overcame severe
obstacles and hardships to reach the United States. They came from
many different countries, spoke different languages, and came legally.
Their flow fluctuated over time, with significant reductions occurring
as a result of the Civil War, World War I, and the restrictive
legislation of 1924. They dispersed into many enclaves in rural areas
and major cities throughout the Northeast and Midwest. They had no
historical claim to any U.S. territory.
On all these dimensions, Mexican immigration is fundamentally
different. These differences combine to make the assimilation of
Mexicans into U.S. culture and society much more difficult than it was
for previous immigrants. Particularly striking in contrast to previous
immigrants is the failure of third- and fourth-generation people of
Mexican origin to approximate U.S. norms in education, economic
status, and intermarriage rates.
The size, persistence, and concentration of Hispanic immigration tends
to perpetuate the use of Spanish through successive generations. The
evidence on English acquisition and Spanish retention among immigrants
is limited and ambiguous. In 2000, however, more than 28 million
people in the United States spoke Spanish at home (10.5 percent of all
people over age five), and almost 13.8 million of these spoke English
worse than "very well," a 66 percent increase since 1990. According to
a U.S. Census Bureau report, in 1990 about 95 percent of Mexican-born
immigrants spoke Spanish at home; 73.6 percent of these did not speak
English very well; and 43 percent of the Mexican foreign-born were
"linguistically isolated." An earlier study in Los Angeles found
different results for the U.S.-born second generation. Just 11.6
percent spoke only Spanish or more Spanish than English, 25.6 percent
spoke both languages equally, 32.7 percent more English than Spanish,
and 30.1 percent only English. In the same study, more than 90 percent
of the U.S.-born people of Mexican origin spoke English fluently.
Nonetheless, in 1999, some 753,505 presumably second-generation
students in Southern California schools who spoke Spanish at home were
not proficient in English.
English language use and fluency for first- and second-generation
Mexicans thus seem to follow the pattern common to past immigrants.
Two questions remain, however. First, have changes occurred over time
in the acquisition of English and the retention of Spanish by
second-generation Mexican immigrants? One might suppose that, with the
rapid expansion of the Mexican immigrant community, people of Mexican
origin would have less incentive to become fluent in and to use
English in 2000 than they had in 1970.
Second, will the third generation follow the classic pattern with
fluency in English and little or no knowledge of Spanish, or will it
retain the second generation's fluency in both languages?
Second-generation immigrants often look down on and reject their
ancestral language and are embarrassed by their parents' inability to
communicate in English. Presumably, whether second-generation Mexicans
share this attitude will help shape the extent to which the third
generation retains any knowledge of Spanish. If the second generation
does not reject Spanish outright, the third generation is also likely
to be bilingual, and fluency in both languages is likely to become
institutionalized in the Mexican-American community.
Spanish retention is also bolstered by the overwhelming majorities
(between 66 percent and 85 percent) of Mexican immigrants and
Hispanics who emphasize the need for their children to be fluent in
Spanish. These attitudes contrast with those of other immigrant
groups. The New Jersey-based Educational Testing Service finds "a
cultural difference between the Asian and Hispanic parents with
respect to having their children maintain their native language." In
part, this difference undoubtedly stems from the size of Hispanic
communities, which creates incentives for fluency in the ancestral
language. Although second- and third-generation Mexican Americans and
other Hispanics acquire competence in English, they also appear to
deviate from the usual pattern by maintaining their competence in
Spanish. Second- or third-generation Mexican Americans who were
brought up speaking only English have learned Spanish as adults and
are encouraging their children to become fluent in it.
Spanish-language competence, University of New Mexico professor F.
Chris Garcia has stated, is "the one thing every Hispanic takes pride
in, wants to protect and promote."
A persuasive case can be made that, in a shrinking world, all
Americans should know at least one important foreign language-Chinese,
Japanese, Hindi, Russian, Arabic, Urdu, French, German, or Spanish-so
as to understand a foreign culture and communicate with its people. It
is quite different to argue that Americans should know a non-English
language in order to communicate with their fellow citizens. Yet that
is what the Spanish-language advocates have in mind. Strengthened by
the growth of Hispanic numbers and influence, Hispanic leaders are
actively seeking to transform the United States into a bilingual
society. "English is not enough," argues Osvaldo Soto, president of
the Spanish American League Against Discrimination. "We don't want a
monolingual society." Similarly, Duke University literature professor
(and Chilean immigrant) Ariel Dorfman asks, "Will this country speak
two languages or merely one?"And his answer, of course, is that it
should speak two.
Hispanic organizations play a central role in inducing the U.S.
Congress to authorize cultural maintenance programs in bilingual
education; as a result, children are slow to join mainstream classes.
The continuing huge inflow of migrants makes it increasingly possible
for Spanish speakers in New York, Miami, and Los Angeles to live
normal lives without knowing English. Sixty-five percent of the
children in bilingual education in New York are Spanish speakers and
hence have little incentive or need to use English in school.
Dual-language programs, which go one step beyond bilingual education,
have become increasingly popular. In these programs, students are
taught in both English and Spanish on an alternating basis with a view
to making English-speakers fluent in Spanish and Spanish-speakers
fluent in English, thus making Spanish the equal of English and
transforming the United States into a two-language country. Then U.S.
Secretary of Education Richard Riley explicitly endorsed these
programs in his March 2000 speech, "Excelencia para Todos-Excellence
for all." Civil rights organizations, church leaders (particularly
Catholic ones), and many politicians (Republican as well as Democrat)
support the impetus toward bilingualism.
Perhaps equally important, business groups seeking to corner the
Hispanic market support bilingualism as well. Indeed, the orientation
of U.S. businesses to Hispanic customers means they increasingly need
bilingual employees; therefore, bilingualism is affecting earnings.
Bilingual police officers and firefighters in southwestern cities such
as Phoenix and Las Vegas are paid more than those who only speak
English. In Miami, one study found, families that spoke only Spanish
had average incomes of $18,000; English-only families had average
incomes of $32,000; and bilingual families averaged more than $50,000.
For the first time in U.S. history, increasing numbers of Americans
(particularly black Americans) will not be able to receive the jobs or
the pay they would otherwise receive because they can speak to their
fellow citizens only in English.
In the debates over language policy, the late California Republican
Senator S.I. Hayakawa once highlighted the unique role of Hispanics in
opposing English. "Why is it that no Filipinos, no Koreans object to
making English the official language? No Japanese have done so. And
certainly not the Vietnamese, who are so damn happy to be here.
They're learning English as fast as they can and winning spelling bees
all across the country. But the Hispanics alone have maintained there
is a problem. There [has been] considerable movement to make Spanish
the second official language."
If the spread of Spanish as the United States' second language
continues, it could, in due course, have significant consequences in
politics and government. In many states, those aspiring to political
office might have to be fluent in both languages. Bilingual candidates
for president and elected federal positions would have an advantage
over English-only speakers. If dual-language education becomes
prevalent in elementary and secondary schools, teachers will
increasingly be expected to be bilingual. Government documents and
forms could routinely be published in both languages. The use of both
languages could become acceptable in congressional hearings and
debates and in the general conduct of government business. Because
most of those whose first language is Spanish will also probably have
some fluency in English, English speakers lacking fluency in Spanish
are likely to be and feel at a disadvantage in the competition for
jobs, promotions, and contracts.
In 1917, former U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt said: "We must have
but one flag. We must also have but one language. That must be the
language of the Declaration of Independence, of Washington's Farewell
address, of Lincoln's Gettysburg speech and second inaugural." By
contrast, in June 2000, U.S. president Bill Clinton said, "I hope very
much that I'm the last president in American history who can't speak
Spanish." And in May 2001, President Bush celebrated Mexico's Cinco de
Mayo national holiday by inaugurating the practice of broadcasting the
weekly presidential radio address to the American people in both
English and Spanish. In September 2003, one of the first debates among
the Democratic Party's presidential candidates also took place in both
English and Spanish. Despite the opposition of large majorities of
Americans, Spanish is joining the language of Washington, Jefferson,
Lincoln, the Roosevelts, and the Kennedys as the language of the
United States. If this trend continues, the cultural division between
Hispanics and Anglos could replace the racial division between blacks
and whites as the most serious cleavage in U.S. society.
Blood Is Thicker Than Borders
Massive Hispanic immigration affects the United States in two
significant ways: Important portions of the country become
predominantly Hispanic in language and culture, and the nation as a
whole becomes bilingual and bicultural. The most important area where
Hispanization is proceeding rapidly is, of course, the Southwest. As
historian Kennedy argues, Mexican Americans in the Southwest will soon
have "sufficient coherence and critical mass in a defined region so
that, if they choose, they can preserve their distinctive culture
indefinitely. They could also eventually undertake to do what no
previous immigrant group could have dreamed of doing: challenge the
existing cultural, political, legal, commercial, and educational
systems to change fundamentally not only the language but also the
very institutions in which they do business."
Anecdotal evidence of such challenges abounds. In 1994, Mexican
Americans vigorously demonstrated against California's Proposition
187-which limited welfare benefits to children of illegal
immigrants-by marching through the streets of Los Angeles waving
scores of Mexican flags and carrying U.S. flags upside down. In 1998,
at a Mexico-United States soccer match in Los Angeles, Mexican
Americans booed the U.S. national anthem and assaulted U.S. players.
Such dramatic rejections of the United States and assertions of
Mexican identity are not limited to an extremist minority in the
Mexican-American community. Many Mexican immigrants and their
offspring simply do not appear to identify primarily with the United
States.
Empirical evidence confirms such appearances. A 1992 study of children
of immigrants in Southern California and South Florida posed the
following question: "How do you identify, that is, what do you call
yourself?" None of the children born in Mexico answered "American,"
compared with 1.9 percent to 9.3 percent of those born elsewhere in
Latin America or the Caribbean. The largest percentage of Mexican-born
children (41.2 percent) identified themselves as "Hispanic," and the
second largest (36.2 percent) chose "Mexican." Among Mexican-American
children born in the United States, less than 4 percent responded
"American," compared to 28.5 percent to 50 percent of those born in
the United States with parents from elsewhere in Latin America.
Whether born in Mexico or in the United States, Mexican children
overwhelmingly did not choose "American" as their primary
identification.
Demographically, socially, and culturally, the reconquista
(re-conquest) of the Southwest United States by Mexican immigrants is
well underway. A meaningful move to reunite these territories with
Mexico seems unlikely, but Prof. Charles Truxillo of the University of
New Mexico predicts that by 2080 the southwestern states of the United
States and the northern states of Mexico will form La República del
Norte (The Republic of the North). Various writers have referred to
the southwestern United States plus northern Mexico as "MexAmerica" or
"Amexica" or "Mexifornia." "We are all Mexicans in this valley," a
former county commissioner of El Paso, Texas, declared in 2001.
This trend could consolidate the Mexican-dominant areas of the United
States into an autonomous, culturally and linguistically distinct, and
economically self-reliant bloc within the United States. "We may be
building toward the one thing that will choke the melting pot," warns
former National Intelligence Council Vice Chairman Graham Fuller, "an
ethnic area and grouping so concentrated that it will not wish, or
need, to undergo assimilation into the mainstream of American
multi-ethnic English-speaking life."
A prototype of such a region already exists-in Miami.
Bienvenido a Miami
Miami is the most Hispanic large city in the 50 U.S. states. Over the
course of 30 years, Spanish speakers-overwhelmingly Cuban-established
their dominance in virtually every aspect of the city's life,
fundamentally changing its ethnic composition, culture, politics, and
language. The Hispanization of Miami is without precedent in the
history of U.S. cities.
The economic growth of Miami, led by the early Cuban immigrants, made
the city a magnet for migrants from other Latin American and Caribbean
countries. By 2000, two thirds of Miami's people were Hispanic, and
more than half were Cuban or of Cuban descent. In 2000, 75.2 percent
of adult Miamians spoke a language other than English at home,
compared to 55.7 percent of the residents of Los Angeles and 47.6
percent of New Yorkers. (Of Miamians speaking a non-English language
at home, 87.2 percent spoke Spanish.) In 2000, 59.5 percent of Miami
residents were foreign-born, compared to 40.9 percent in Los Angeles,
36.8 percent in San Francisco, and 35.9 percent in New York. In 2000,
only 31.1 percent of adult Miami residents said they spoke English
very well, compared to 39.0 percent in Los Angeles, 42.5 percent in
San Francisco, and 46.5 percent in New York.
The Cuban takeover had major consequences for Miami. The elite and
entrepreneurial class fleeing the regime of Cuban dictator Fidel
Castro in the 1960s started dramatic economic development in South
Florida. Unable to send money home, they invested in Miami. Personal
income growth in Miami averaged 11.5 percent a year in the 1970s and
7.7 percent a year in the 1980s. Payrolls in Miami-Dade County tripled
between 1970 and 1995. The Cuban economic drive made Miami an
international economic dynamo, with expanding international trade and
investment. The Cubans promoted international tourism, which, by the
1990s, exceeded domestic tourism and made Miami a leading center of
the cruise ship industry. Major U.S. corporations in manufacturing,
communications, and consumer products moved their Latin American
headquarters to Miami from other U.S. and Latin American cities. A
vigorous Spanish artistic and entertainment community emerged. Today,
the Cubans can legitimately claim that, in the words of Prof. Damian
Fernández of Florida International University, "We built modern
Miami," and made its economy larger than those of many Latin American
countries.
A key part of this development was the expansion of Miami's economic
ties with Latin America. Brazilians, Argentines, Chileans, Colombians,
and Venezuelans flooded into Miami, bringing their money with them. By
1993, some $25.6 billion in international trade, mostly involving
Latin America, moved through the city. Throughout the hemisphere,
Latin Americans concerned with investment, trade, culture,
entertainment, holidays, and drug smuggling increasingly turned to
Miami.
Such eminence transformed Miami into a Cuban-led, Hispanic city. The
Cubans did not, in the traditional pattern, create an enclave
immigrant neighborhood. Instead, they created an enclave city with its
own culture and economy, in which assimilation and Americanization
were unnecessary and in some measure undesired. By 2000, Spanish was
not just the language spoken in most homes, it was also the principal
language of commerce, business, and politics. The media and
communications industry became increasingly Hispanic. In 1998, a
Spanish-language television station became the number-one station
watched by Miamians-the first time a foreign-language station achieved
that rating in a major U.S. city. "They're outsiders," one successful
Hispanic said of non-Hispanics. "Here we are members of the power
structure," another boasted.
"In Miami there is no pressure to be American," one Cuban-born
sociologist observed. "People can make a living perfectly well in an
enclave that speaks Spanish." By 1999, the heads of Miami's largest
bank, largest real estate development company, and largest law firm
were all Cuban-born or of Cuban descent. The Cubans also established
their dominance in politics. By 1999, the mayor of Miami and the
mayor, police chief, and state attorney of Miami-Dade County, plus two
thirds of Miami's U.S. Congressional delegation and nearly one half of
its state legislators, were of Cuban origin. In the wake of the Elián
González affair in 2000, the non-Hispanic city manager and police
chief in Miami City were replaced by Cubans.
The Cuban and Hispanic dominance of Miami left Anglos (as well as
blacks) as outside minorities that could often be ignored. Unable to
communicate with government bureaucrats and discriminated against by
store clerks, the Anglos came to realize, as one of them put it, "My
God, this is what it's like to be the minority." The Anglos had three
choices. They could accept their subordinate and outsider position.
They could attempt to adopt the manners, customs, and language of the
Hispanics and assimilate into the Hispanic community-"acculturation in
reverse," as the scholars Alejandro Portes and Alex Stepick labeled
it. Or they could leave Miami, and between 1983 and 1993, about
140,000 did just that, their exodus reflected in a popular bumper
sticker: "Will the last American to leave Miami, please bring the
flag."
Contempt of culture
Is Miami the future for Los Angeles and the southwest United States?
In the end, the results could be similar: the creation of a large,
distinct, Spanish-speaking community with economic and political
resources sufficient to sustain its Hispanic identity apart from the
national identity of other Americans and also able to influence U.S.
politics, government, and society. However, the processes by which
this result might come about differ. The Hispanization of Miami has
been rapid, explicit, and economically driven. The Hispanization of
the Southwest has been slower, unrelenting, and politically driven.
The Cuban influx into Florida was intermittent and responded to the
policies of the Cuban government. Mexican immigration, on the other
hand, is continuous, includes a large illegal component, and shows no
signs of tapering. The Hispanic (that is, largely Mexican) population
of Southern California far exceeds in number but has yet to reach the
proportions of the Hispanic population of Miami-though it is
increasing rapidly.
The early Cuban immigrants in South Florida were largely middle and
upper class. Subsequent immigrants were more lower class. In the
Southwest, overwhelming numbers of Mexican immigrants have been poor,
unskilled, and poorly educated, and their children are likely to face
similar conditions. The pressures toward Hispanization in the
Southwest thus come from below, whereas those in South Florida came
from above. In the long run, however, numbers are power, particularly
in a multicultural society, a political democracy, and a consumer
economy.
Another major difference concerns the relations of Cubans and Mexicans
with their countries of origin. The Cuban community has been united in
its hostility to the Castro regime and in its efforts to punish and
overthrow that regime. The Cuban government has responded in kind. The
Mexican community in the United States has been more ambivalent and
nuanced in its attitudes toward the Mexican government. Since the
1980s, however, the Mexican government has sought to expand the
numbers, wealth, and political power of the Mexican community in the
U.S. Southwest and to integrate that population with Mexico. "The
Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders,"
Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo said in the 1990s. His successor,
Vicente Fox, called Mexican emigrants "heroes" and describes himself
as president of 123 million Mexicans, 100 million in Mexico and 23
million in the United States.
As their numbers increase, Mexican Americans feel increasingly
comfortable with their own culture and often contemptuous of American
culture. They demand recognition of their culture and the historic
Mexican identity of the U.S. Southwest. They call attention to and
celebrate their Hispanic and Mexican past, as in the 1998 ceremonies
and festivities in Madrid, New Mexico, attended by the vice president
of Spain, honoring the establishment 400 years earlier of the first
European settlement in the Southwest, almost a decade before
Jamestown. As the New York Times reported in September 1999, Hispanic
growth has been able to "help ‘Latinize' many Hispanic people who are
finding it easier to affirm their heritage…. [T]hey find strength in
numbers, as younger generations grow up with more ethnic pride and as
a Latin influence starts permeating fields such as entertainment,
advertising, and politics." One index foretells the future: In 1998,
"José" replaced "Michael" as the most popular name for newborn boys in
both California and Texas.
Irreconcilable Differences
The persistence of Mexican immigration into the United States reduces
the incentives for cultural assimilation. Mexican Americans no longer
think of themselves as members of a small minority who must
accommodate the dominant group and adopt its culture. As their numbers
increase, they become more committed to their own ethnic identity and
culture. Sustained numerical expansion promotes cultural consolidation
and leads Mexican Americans not to minimize but to glory in the
differences between their culture and U.S. culture. As the president
of the National Council of La Raza said in 1995: "The biggest problem
we have is a cultural clash, a clash between our values and the values
in American society." He then went on to spell out the superiority of
Hispanic values to American values. In similar fashion, Lionel Sosa, a
successful Mexican-American businessman in Texas, in 1998 hailed the
emerging Hispanic middle-class professionals who look like Anglos, but
whose "values remain quite different from an Anglo's."
To be sure, as Harvard University political scientist Jorge I.
Domínguez has pointed out, Mexican Americans are more favorably
disposed toward democracy than are Mexicans. Nonetheless, "ferocious
differences" exist between U.S. and Mexican cultural values, as Jorge
Castañeda (who later served as Mexico's foreign minister) observed in
1995.
Castañeda cited differences in social and economic equality, the
unpredictability of events, concepts of time epitomized in the mañana
syndrome, the ability to achieve results quickly, and attitudes toward
history, expressed in the "cliché that Mexicans are obsessed with
history, Americans with the future." Sosa identifies several Hispanic
traits (very different from Anglo-Protestant ones) that "hold us
Latinos back": mistrust of people outside the family; lack of
initiative, self-reliance, and ambition; little use for education; and
acceptance of poverty as a virtue necessary for entrance into heaven.
Author Robert Kaplan quotes Alex Villa, a third-generation Mexican
American in Tucson, Arizona, as saying that he knows almost no one in
the Mexican community of South Tucson who believes in "education and
hard work" as the way to material prosperity and is thus willing to
"buy into America." Profound cultural differences clearly separate
Mexicans and Americans, and the high level of immigration from Mexico
sustains and reinforces the prevalence of Mexican values among Mexican
Americans.
Continuation of this large immigration (without improved assimilation)
could divide the United States into a country of two languages and two
cultures. A few stable, prosperous democracies-such as Canada and
Belgium-fit this pattern. The differences in culture within these
countries, however, do not approximate those between the United States
and Mexico, and even in these countries language differences persist.
Not many Anglo-Canadians are equally fluent in English and French, and
the Canadian government has had to impose penalties to get its top
civil servants to achieve dual fluency. Much the same lack of dual
competence is true of Walloons and Flemings in Belgium. The
transformation of the United States into a country like these would
not necessarily be the end of the world; it would, however, be the end
of the America we have known for more than three centuries. Americans
should not let that change happen unless they are convinced that this
new nation would be a better one.
Such a transformation would not only revolutionize the United States,
but it would also have serious consequences for Hispanics, who will be
in the United States but not of it. Sosa ends his book, The Americano
Dream, with encouragement for aspiring Hispanic entrepreneurs. "The
Americano dream?" he asks. "It exists, it is realistic, and it is
there for all of us to share." Sosa is wrong. There is no Americano
dream. There is only the American dream created by an Anglo-Protestant
society. Mexican Americans will share in that dream and in that
society only if they dream in English.
Samuel P. Huntington is chairman of the Harvard Academy for
International and Area Studies and cofounder of FOREIGN POLICY.
Copyright © 2004 by Samuel P. Huntington. From the forthcoming book
Who Are We by Samuel P. Huntington to be published by Simon &
Schuster, Inc. N.Y. Printed by permission.
FromDiversity to Dominance
Foreign-Born Population Living in the United States
1960
In 1960, the foreign-born population in the United States (from the
five principal countries of origin) was relatively diverse: 2000
In 2000, the foreign-born population from the top five countries was
distributed very differently:
Source: Campbell J. Gibson and Emily Lennon's "Historical Census
Statistics on the Foreign-Born Population of the United States
1850-1990" (Population Division Working Paper No. 29, U.S. Census
Bureau, February 1999); and "Profile of the Foreign-Born Population in
the United States: 2000" (Washington: U.S. Census Bureau, Current
Population Reports, Series p23-206, 2001).
Education
The education of people of Mexican origin in the United States lags
well behind the U.S. norm. In 2000, 86.6 percent of native-born
Americans had graduated from high school. The rates for the
foreign-born population in the United States varied from 94.9 percent
for Africans, 83.8 percent for Asians, 49.6 percent for Latin
Americans overall, and down to 33.8 percent for Mexicans, who ranked
lowest.
Education of Mexican Americans by Generation (1989-90) First Second
Third Fourth All Americans *
No high school degree (%) 69.9 51.5 33.0 41.0 23.5
High school degree (%) 24.7 39.2 58.5 49.4 30.4
Post high school degree (%) 5.4 9.3 8.5 9.6 45.1
* Except Mexican Americans, 1990
Source: Rodolfo O. De la Garza, Angelo Falcón, P. Chris García's
"Mexican Immigrants, Mexican Americans, and American Political
Culture," in Barry Edmonston and Jeffrey S. Passell's (eds.)
Immigration and Ethnicity: The Integration of America's Newest
Arrivals (Washington: Urban Institute Press, 1994); and "Census of
Population: Persons of Hispanic Origin in the United States,"
Washington: U.S. Census Bureau, 1990)
Economic Status
Mexican immigrants and Mexican Americans lag behind the rest of the
nation and other immigrant groups on a variety of economic indicators,
including managerial and prefessional occupations, home ownership, and
household income.
Managerial/Professional Positions as a Percentage of Employed Members
of Immigrant Groups (2000)
Source: A. Dianne Schmidley, U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population
Reports, Profile of the Foreign-Born Population in the United States:
2000, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, DC, 2001
Home Ownership and Income of Mexican Americans, by Generation
(1989-90) First Second Third Fourth All Americans
Homeowner (%) 30.6 58.6 44.1 40.3 64.1*
Household Income of $50,000 or more (%) 7.1 10.5 11.2 10.7 24.8**
*1990, Includes Mexican Americans. **1990, Excludes Mexican Americans.
Source: De la Garza et al., 1994; "Current Population Survey, March
1990" (Washington: U.S. Census Bureau, 1990); and "Census of
Population: Persons of Hispanic Origin in the United States," 1990
Intermarriage
In 1977, 31 percent of all U.S. marriages involving Hispanic crossed
ethnic lines, compared to only 25.5 percent in 1994 and 28.3 percent
in 2000. As the absolute number of Mexican immigrants increases and
their high birthrate produces more children, the opportunities for
them to marry each other will increase.
Percentage of Asian and Hipanic Women Married Outside of their Ethnic
Group (1994)
Asian Hispanic
First Generation (%) 18.6 8.4
Second Generation (%) 29.2 26.4
Third Generation (%) 41.5 33.2
Source: Gregory Rodriguez, "From Newcomers to New Americans: The
successful Integration of Immigrants into American Society"
(Washington: National Immigration Forum, 1999), citing "Current
Population Survey, June 1994" (Washington: U.S. Census Bureau, 1994)
The special social and cultural problems posed by Mexican immigration
to the United States have received little public attention or
meaningful discussion. But many academic sociologists and other
scholars have warned of them for years.
In 1983, the distinguished sociologist Morris Janowitz pointed to the
"strong resistance to acculturation among Spanish-speaking residents"
in the United States, and argued that "Mexicans are unique as an
immigrant group in the persistent strength of their communal bonds."
As a result, "Mexicans, together with other Spanish-speaking
populations, are creating a bifurcation in the social-political
structure of the United States that approximates nationality
divisions…."
Other scholars have reiterated these warnings, emphasizing how the
size, persistence, and regional concentration of Mexican immigration
obstruct assimilation. In 1997, sociologists Richard Alba and Victor
Nee pointed out that the four-decade interruption of large-scale
immigration after 1924 "virtually guaranteed that ethnic communities
and cultures would be steadily weakened over time." In contrast,
continuation of the current high levels of Latin American immigration
"will create a fundamentally different ethnic context from that faced
by the descendants of European immigrants, for the new ethnic
communities are highly likely to remain large, culturally vibrant, and
institutionally rich." Under current conditions, sociologist Douglas
Massey agrees, "the character of ethnicity will be determined
relatively more by immigrants and relatively less by later
generations, shifting the balance of ethnic identity toward the
language, culture, and ways of life of the sending society."
"A constant influx of new arrivals," demographers Barry Edmonston and
Jeffrey Passel contend, "especially in predominantly immigrant
neighborhoods, keeps the language alive among immigrants and their
children." Finally, American Enterprise Institute scholar Mark Falcoff
also observes that because "the Spanish-speaking population is being
continually replenished by newcomers faster than that population is
being assimilated," the widespread use of Spanish in the United States
"is a reality that cannot be changed, even over the longer term."
-S.P.H.
In the 1993 film Falling Down, Michael Douglas plays a white former
defense company employee reacting to the humiliations that he sees
imposed on him by a multicultural society. "From the get-go," wrote
David Gates in Newsweek, "the film pits Douglas-the picture of
obsolescent rectitude with his white shirt, tie, specs, and astronaut
haircut-against a rainbow coalition of Angelenos. It's a cartoon
vision of the beleaguered white male in multicultural America."
A plausible reaction to the demographic changes underway in the United
States could be the rise of an anti-Hispanic, anti-black, and
anti-immigrant movement composed largely of white, working- and
middle-class males, protesting their job losses to immigrants and
foreign countries, the perversion of their culture, and the
displacement of their language. Such a movement can be labeled "white
nativism."
"Cultured, intelligent, and often possessing impressive degrees from
some of America's premier colleges and universities, this new breed of
white racial advocate is a far cry from the populist politicians and
hooded Klansmen of the Old South," writes Carol Swain in her 2002
book, The New White Nationalism in America. These new white
nationalists do not advocate white racial supremacy but believe in
racial self-preservation and affirm that culture is a product of race.
They contend that the shifting U.S. demographics foretell the
replacement of white culture by black or brown cultures that are
intellectually and morally inferior.
Changes in the U.S. racial balance underlie these concerns.
Non-Hispanic whites dropped from 75.6 percent of the population in
1990 to 69.1 percent in 2000. In California-as in Hawaii, New Mexico,
and the District of Columbia-non-Hispanic whites are now a minority.
Demographers predict that, by 2040, non-Hispanic whites could be a
minority of all Americans. Moreover, for several decades, interest
groups and government elites have promoted racial preferences and
affirmative action, which favor blacks and nonwhite immigrants.
Meanwhile, pro-globalization policies have shifted jobs outside the
United States, aggravated income inequality, and promoted declining
real wages for working-class Americans.
Actual and perceived losses in power and status by any social, ethnic,
racial, or economic group almost always produce efforts to reverse
those losses. In 1961, the population of Bosnia and Herzegovina was 43
percent Serb and 26 percent Muslim. In 1991, it was 31 percent Serb
and 44 percent Muslim. The Serbs reacted with ethnic cleansing. In
1990, the population of California was 57 percent non-Hispanic white
and 26 percent Hispanic. By 2040, it is predicted to be 31 percent
non-Hispanic white and 48 percent Hispanic.
The chance that California whites will react like Bosnian Serbs is
about zero. The chance that they will not react at all is also about
zero. Indeed, they already have reacted by approving initiatives
against benefits for illegal immigrants, affirmative action, and
bilingual education, as well as by the movement of whites out of the
state. As more Hispanics become citizens and politically active, white
groups are likely to look for other ways of protecting themselves.
Industrialization in the late 19th century produced losses for U.S.
farmers and led to agrarian protest groups, including the Populist
movement, the Grange, the Nonpartisan League, and the American Farm
Bureau Federation. Today, white nativists could well ask: If blacks
and Hispanics organize and lobby for special privileges, why not
whites? If the National Association for the Advancement of Colored
People and the National Council of La Raza are legitimate
organizations, why not a national organization promoting white
interests?
White nationalism is "the next logical stage for identity politics in
America," argues Swain, making the United States "increasingly at risk
of large-scale racial conflict unprecedented in our nation's history."
The most powerful stimulus to such white nativism will be the cultural
and linguistic threats whites see from the expanding power of
Hispanics in U.S. society.
-S.P.H.
--
"The elite class in America is becoming a ruling class and they've made
enough money by hiring cheap illegal labor that they think they also
have some kind of a right to cheap servants to manicure their nails
and their lawn, for example."
"So this ruling class, this new ruling class of America, is expanding
a servant class in America at the expense of the middle class of
America, the blue collar of America that used to be able to punch a
time clock, buy a modest house and raise their families. ... Those
young people are cut out of this process." Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa)
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/print?id=1787765
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TOPIC: The end is near....for US occupation of Iraq?
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 9:27 pm
From: "yansimon52"
Bad boy wrote:
> You have an over-inflated regards for the
> Americans....thinking that they are civil gentlemen
> in coat and tie.
> Yes...people like Reagan and Clinton are indeed
> cultured guys (notwithstanding his sex escapade
> in the Oval Office).
>
> Bush is more like the back street underworld
> gangsters, dressed in tuxedo.... but far from civilised.
>
> He is a money grabbing mean son-of-a-bitch,
> who'd gone into Iraq for the oil fields....and for
> the money in rebuilding Iraq.
Their solid constitutions (US's) speak volvumes..................well,
some unsrcupulous politician may exploit some of their loopholes either
for personal gain (power and influence) or to cover their backside, in
lifting up their economy (if not, american may claimed that he is a
useless President, messing up the economy)........
US need unrest among middle east countries in order for them to be
wanted (involved) with it and having the chance to sell those obselete
arsenals what?..In the Kuwait/Iraq war.do you know how much money US is
making from it?.
Hey, don't you forget that, in the US administration, they got alot of
Harvard guys there..........you know?
>From past record, in the 70s' they (US) had alreadi screwed up those
Japanese ie. rich Japanese buying up those US's assest such as
Universal studio, Empire State Building and later on selling it
piecemeal price back to them, due to bad management by those ang moh
CEOs.
In the 80s' and 90s', they (US) oso screwed up the Mexico and the asian
economies........
Ah ya..........compare it with our closest neighbour
lar..........malaysia and Indonesia........Why Malaysia is doing much
better (on its economy) than Indonesia?
Reason is, Malaysia has a strong and transparent constitutions
(inherited from the then commonwealth legacy) as compared to Indonesia.
>
> Bad boy.
>
>
> "yansimon52" <yansimon52@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1143948460.785823.117590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > Its fundamental by getting themselves involved in this Iraq war was
> > alreadi a very big mistake, a so-called ciltured society getting
> > mess-up with a illiterate society....
> > Uncultured people should be left on their own to solve (thru force)
> > their own problem.....
> >
> > US getting involved themselves in Iraq is like a person, wearing 'coat
> > and tie' involving an argument with some illiterate people at a wet
> > market.........surely, the guy with coat and tie gonna lose
> > out..............cause, in the world of illiteracy, there is no rules
> > or laws.......
> >
> >
> > Bad boy wrote:
> >> The realities of US hopeless situation in Iraq
> >> is finally sinking in.
> >>
> >> The US has absolutely no control in Iraq. US troops
> >> are hiding behind barracks, fearing death if they ever
> >> venture outside.
> >> When they tried air petrol, their helicopters are being shot
> >> down like birds. The latest, one US helicopter downed
> >> yesterday in Baghdad.
> >> When they tried ground petrol using armoured vehicles,
> >> they are bombed to smithereens. Last weeks US troops
> >> were killed by road side home made bombs.
> >> The US troops are trapped in their barracks like captured
> >> animals, fearing for their life.
> >> Bush never bargain for such utter state of shame and
> >> disgrace, when he smilingly declared victory immediately
> >> following the fall of Saddam.
> >>
> >> Shiites who collaborated or worked with the US are being
> >> systematically executed.
> >> According to Diyala province Joint Coordination Center,
> >> 10 attackers ambushed and killed a Shiite tribal chief Adil
> >> Abdul Hadi and his male relatives near Balad Ruz as they
> >> drove home on Friday.
> >> Coalition forces found the bodies of six Iraqis in a car on
> >> a major road in western Baghdad on Friday, according to
> >> the U.S. military. They were found blindfolded, with their
> >> hands bound.
> >> Reports on such executions of US collaborators, in groups,
> >> are becoming a daily affair.
> >>
> >> There is nothing the US could do to stop such execution
> >> of people who work for the US and their families.
> >>
> >> U.S. journalist Jill Carroll, two days after her captors
> >> released her in Baghdad, condemned the US in a video
> >> show.
> >>
> >> Retired NATO military commander Gen. Wesley Clark
> >> slammed the Bush administration Saturday, accusing it
> >> of "tragic incompetence in everything from nation building
> >> in Iraq ..."
> >>
> >> Yes. the end is near.....for the US stay in Iraq....for
> >> the utter humilation of the US, ...the US as the top
> >> dog in the world.....
> >> Bush is becoming a US leader in shame....suffering
> >> defeat in the hands of poor Iraqi who have no high
> >> tech arms nor powerful war machines.
> >>
> >> Bush has bitten more than he could chew!
> >>
> >>
> >> Bad boy.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/04/01/iraq.main/index.html
> >> U.S. helicopter crashes near Baghdad
> >> Gunmen kill Shiite tribal chief, relatives
> >>
> >> Saturday, April 1, 2006; Posted: 12:51 p.m. EST (17:51 GMT)
> >> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A U.S. military helicopter crashed Saturday
> >> southwest
> >> of Baghdad, the military said in a statement.
> >>
> >> "The status of the crew is unknown," the brief statement said.
> >>
> >> Officials said the helicopter was on a "combat air patrol" and came down
> >> at
> >> about 5:30 p.m. (9:30 a.m. ET).
> >>
> >> The statement added: "All additional information is being withheld
> >> pending
> >> investigation and notification of next of kin," the statement said.
> >>
> >> Elsewhere in Iraq, gunmen in three cars killed a Shiite tribal chief and
> >> four male relatives near Balad Ruz as they drove home from a funeral,
> >> according to a Diyala province Joint Coordination Center official.
> >>
> >> One of the family members was a police officer with the Baquba
> >> intelligence
> >> service.
> >>
> >> On Saturday morning, four Iraqi police officers were wounded as they
> >> tried
> >> to defuse a bomb behind Baghdad's Technical University. In a separate
> >> incident, a mortar round exploded in a residential area in a southeastern
> >> Baghdad suburb, wounding two civilians, officials said.
> >>
> >> Coalition forces also found the bodies of six Iraqis in a car on a major
> >> road in western Baghdad, according to the U.S. military. They were found
> >> blindfolded, with their hands bound, the statement said.
> >
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TOPIC: Dear George... Have I Told You How Much I Appreciate You?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/665405bfb4f885ef
==============================================================================
== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 9:30 pm
From: "al953"
Dear George... Have I Told You How Much I Appreciate You?
by Zbignew Zingh
www.dissidentvoice.org
March 31, 2006
Dear George,
I hope you don't mind if I address you familiarly, Mr. President? It seems
like you've been on my mind so much these past many years that I can speak
to you like an old buddy.
I want you to know, George, that despite all the derogatory things that I've
said and published about you on the Web, I really, really do appreciate what
you've done for me. So, I'd like to express my sincere thanks to you,
publicly, just this once.
Of course, just because I appreciate what you've done for me, please do not
misunderstand me. You're still an ignoramus, a liar and a thug. But I do
appreciate you.
When you first were "elected" in 2000, George... well, at that time, I still
thought that you were, more or less, elected... I thought of myself as a
proud and politically "liberal" citizen. You know who I mean, George. I was
one of those gullible, Panglossian types who got my news from the
television, and who thought that the United States was the champion of
democracy that could do no wrong. My glass was always half full and never
half empty. I used to vote for the Democratic lesser-of-two-evils and I
really thought that the Two Parties were totally different. Yes, I admit
that I wore rose-colored American glasses, George; but I've grown up since
then. I've gotten wiser and I've educated myself better. You know, once I
was blind and now I can see, and all that. I owe it all to you, George. You
have been the impulse behind my improved vision, my educational betterment.
You see, unlike your predecessors -- Republican and Democratic presidents
alike -- you have absolutely no skill whatsoever concealing in silken gloves
the tightly clenched iron fists of greed and power. True, your predecessors
hammered their victims as viciously as you do, but they succeeded in
covering their actions with a veneer of righteousness that, in those naïve
days, caused me to accept the veneer as reality. Your naked power plays, by
contrast, are so crass, so blatant, so transparent that you have completely
shattered any illusion that what America does is for the good of its
citizens and the good of the world. In short, George, you've opened my eyes,
not just to your transgressions and those of your associates, but to all
that preceded you, too.
You see, unlike Mr. Clinton, who, at least, purported to feel our pain while
he caused so much of it, you just inflict pain without any empathy at all.
It really looks like you enjoy inflicting pain and killing people and
punishing anyone who crosses you. You seem to have that natural
Machiavellian knack, even though you probably have never read, nor could you
comprehend, the words of Machiavelli's book. And unlike your predecessors
who lied so effectively while they led us into one imperial war after
another, you lie very, very unskillfully. It is as though you and your
associates know that you no longer need to feign any conviction or
consistency in your lies; instead, you rely on the fact that most Americans
simply cannot accept, simply refuse to accept the truth about what you have
done and what you are doing.
The effect has been jarring, George. So jarring that you have caused me to
go back and reexamine my own gullibility, my own innocence, my own mental
construct of my old liberal American world. Your insensitive, heavy handed
style of governance, so much like that of a Mafia don, or the tinhorn
despots you are allied with, has startled me into looking more closely at
how someone like you could come to power in these United States. And once I
started looking more closely, George, I continued digging, searching,
analyzing. Then I fell through the looking glass and tumbled deep into the
wonderland of our political and economic history.
George, I frankly needed more time, more space, better sources of
information, so all-consuming was the quest for truth that you launched me
on. So I disconnected my television (no great loss there, I assure you!),
changed my old habits and amusements, and poured my energy into study and
examination of what had gone wrong for someone like you to be holding the
reins of government. Thanks to you George, I also had to get beyond all
those tired old media -- the New York Times, the Washington Post, the weekly
news magazines, the Rupert Murdoch news holdings, the ClearChannel radio
stations, the whole raft of corporate media that seem to be your
cheerleaders. You also caused me to reexamine my old perceptions of the
so-called "Democrats" and the "public" radio and television stations because
they, too, had more and more often fallen in line with the corporate
Weltanschauung that you embody. Thanks to you, George, I have finally
learned what I should have learned long ago: you can't trust the Pentagon,
the CIA, the FBI, any large corporation and anyone in the administration. If
the Federal Reserve Board says its Black, it's probably White. If the
Pentagon says its Hot, then it's probably Cold. If the CIA says its False,
then it's probably True. If Wall Street says Buy, then you should Sell. If
the DOJ says it's Constitutional, then it most likely is Not Constitutional.
I'm on a journey now, George, and I have you to thank for pushing me off on
it. You gave me a big shove into unknown waters when you said that I'm
either with you or I'm against you. You shoved me off because I am most
definitely not with you. I admit that it's a little scary because I'm not
certain where it all leads, George. I am certain, however, that it leads far
away from the illusory world of faux democracy, deceptocracy, secret
government, torture, lawlessness, economic and political degeneracy that you
epitomize.
I think, George, that quite frankly you scare a lot of people. No, I'm not
talking about little people like me. I think you scare the bejeezers out the
mucky-mucks who own and run you, the people who bankrolled your career and
who pull your puppet strings. You frighten them because they must recognize
how effective you have been in startling whole masses of people like me, in
the U.S. and elsewhere, into undertaking similar journeys. In short, you,
George, have the capacity to single-handedly rip the veil off the 200-plus
year illusion of American exceptionalism, economic aggression and
exclusionary politics that has sustained our national ego for all this time.
You, George, seem to have the innate ability to disillusion oh so many
millions of people with our hollow economic, political and social orders so
that, more than any progressive, more than any liberal, more than any
revolutionary, you could actually kick out the psychic props that hold up
the whole rotten edifice. Thus are you most frightening to those who
desperately want to paint the smiley face back on capitalism, who want to
re-clothe the iron military fist in silken gloves of "diplomacy" and who
want to restore the myth that America is somehow better than everyone else.
You, George, have not even bothered with the niceties of gloving your bloody
hands in silk. You have not trifled with the diplomacy of manners or the
perfume of noble causes. Yours is the face of raw, naked power. You have
dropped the mask, George, and the face you show us is not the one that our
Owners and Leaders want us to see.
Equally frightening to the Leaders and Owners and String-Pullers of our
world is how effectively you have discredited most of the major institutions
they rely on to command respect and obedience from all of us. By packing the
Courts with right wing radicals you have denigrated the judiciary. By
cozying up with fanatical religious bigots, you have undermined the
respectability of the religion you profess. By claiming the power to
eavesdrop, kidnap, torture, incarcerate and wage war, literally at will, you
have debased the presidency and proved the need for a weaker, a more
constrained Executive Branch of Government. By manipulating world financial
institutions, discarding treaties willy-nilly, and force-feeding your
authoritarian brand of top-down "democracy" down the throats of the
unwilling, you have caused disrepute for everything that you tout.
Of course, I completely understand, George, that America is not better, or
worse, than any other nation on earth. Given the same degree of power and
opportunity, every civilization, every ethnicity, culture, religion, empire
or nation has done, or would do the same. There is no more criminality, no
more avarice, greed or corruption in our body politic or among our people --
nor any more "goodness", charity, benevolence, wisdom, insight or piety
either -- than in any other place on the face of the earth. What
distinguishes the U.S. from everyone everywhere else is the current balance
of political, economic and military power. We have it; others don't.
But the mere recognition that we are fundamentally no different than anyone
else threatens the mythology that has stoked our hallucination for many
decades. What you have therefore caused me to understand, George, is that
even impeaching you is not sufficient. Replacing you with a prettier face or
a nicer president or a Democratic Congress is not enough. Nostalgia for a
better time is not enough. George, what you have taught me is that there
really is nothing to be nostalgic for.
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't cherry-pick the best from whatever any
culture or economic or political theory can offer. It simply means that we
have to look forward to creating new and better systems, rather than just
dumping your kind and returning to a mistaken nostalgia for a past that
never was. This is a troubling understanding, but thanks to you, George,
many people now think that way.
By the way, George, particularly as to you, I have a theory, why your poll
numbers have plummeted. Please don't take this as a personal attack, because
I really am grateful to you. You see, it's really not what you do that
alienates even your erstwhile supporters, but how you do it.
Surely, in the past, many American presidents and politicians and
businessmen have instigated unjust wars and wreaked havoc among the
downtrodden in order to line their own pockets and protect their real
constituents' economic interests. Many Americans could tolerate the
injustice of what was done in their names because these past acts were often
deftly carried out and the protocols of social illusion were respected.
Moreover, many Americans perceived that they benefited from these
injustices, albeit indirectly, and, in some instances, they even shared the
biases that blessed the travesties that were committed.
But you're something special, George. You're inept. A bungler. An
incompetent. You have no finesse. Indeed, throughout history, many have
shown themselves quite willing to accept the evils dished out by their
leaders. But incompetence -- whoa Bessie! -- that is the one unforgivable
sin. For many of your own disappointed supporters, including the country's
legitimately worried power elite, you should be impeached for your bungling
and ineptitude, if not for the actual deeds that you have done. America
hates a loser, George, and you're a loser.
As for me, personally, I'd like you to stay on in office, George. I don't
want you to be impeached. I would like it if you fulfilled the remaining
three agonizingly long years of your presidency (if only we could keep your
twitchy fingers off the nuclear button and prevent you from attacking anyone
else). A few more years of you -- should the world survive them -- and some
of the critically important lessons for change might actually take root. For
you have become such a wonderful enzyme, such a potent catalyst for our
collective political and economic education, that were you out of office and
some pretty-faced, old style, more adroit political deceiver in charge, then
we might all start to slip back into our dreamland; we might all backslide
into complacency, slip back into the hallucination and politically
degenerate state of our pre-Bush years.
So be assured, George: I, we, indeed the whole world appreciates what you
are doing for us. You are still an ignoramus, a liar and a thug, but we
appreciate you.
Zbignew Zingh can be reached at: Zbig@ersarts.com. This Article is CopyLeft,
and free to distribute, reprint, repost, sing at a recital, spray paint,
scribble in a toilet stall, etc. to your heart's content, with proper author
citation. Find out more about Copyleft and read other great articles at:
www.ersarts.com. copyleft 2006
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 3 2006 1:01 am
From: Defendario
An Amazing Read! Kudos to you, Sir!
TY for Posting
al953 wrote:
> Dear George... Have I Told You How Much I Appreciate You?
> by Zbignew Zingh
> www.dissidentvoice.org
> March 31, 2006
>
>
> Dear George,
>
> I hope you don't mind if I address you familiarly, Mr. President? It seems
> like you've been on my mind so much these past many years that I can speak
> to you like an old buddy.
>
> I want you to know, George, that despite all the derogatory things that I've
> said and published about you on the Web, I really, really do appreciate what
> you've done for me. So, I'd like to express my sincere thanks to you,
> publicly, just this once.
>
> Of course, just because I appreciate what you've done for me, please do not
> misunderstand me. You're still an ignoramus, a liar and a thug. But I do
> appreciate you.
>
> When you first were "elected" in 2000, George... well, at that time, I still
> thought that you were, more or less, elected... I thought of myself as a
> proud and politically "liberal" citizen. You know who I mean, George. I was
> one of those gullible, Panglossian types who got my news from the
> television, and who thought that the United States was the champion of
> democracy that could do no wrong. My glass was always half full and never
> half empty. I used to vote for the Democratic lesser-of-two-evils and I
> really thought that the Two Parties were totally different. Yes, I admit
> that I wore rose-colored American glasses, George; but I've grown up since
> then. I've gotten wiser and I've educated myself better. You know, once I
> was blind and now I can see, and all that. I owe it all to you, George. You
> have been the impulse behind my improved vision, my educational betterment.
>
> You see, unlike your predecessors -- Republican and Democratic presidents
> alike -- you have absolutely no skill whatsoever concealing in silken gloves
> the tightly clenched iron fists of greed and power. True, your predecessors
> hammered their victims as viciously as you do, but they succeeded in
> covering their actions with a veneer of righteousness that, in those naïve
> days, caused me to accept the veneer as reality. Your naked power plays, by
> contrast, are so crass, so blatant, so transparent that you have completely
> shattered any illusion that what America does is for the good of its
> citizens and the good of the world. In short, George, you've opened my eyes,
> not just to your transgressions and those of your associates, but to all
> that preceded you, too.
>
> You see, unlike Mr. Clinton, who, at least, purported to feel our pain while
> he caused so much of it, you just inflict pain without any empathy at all.
> It really looks like you enjoy inflicting pain and killing people and
> punishing anyone who crosses you. You seem to have that natural
> Machiavellian knack, even though you probably have never read, nor could you
> comprehend, the words of Machiavelli's book. And unlike your predecessors
> who lied so effectively while they led us into one imperial war after
> another, you lie very, very unskillfully. It is as though you and your
> associates know that you no longer need to feign any conviction or
> consistency in your lies; instead, you rely on the fact that most Americans
> simply cannot accept, simply refuse to accept the truth about what you have
> done and what you are doing.
>
> The effect has been jarring, George. So jarring that you have caused me to
> go back and reexamine my own gullibility, my own innocence, my own mental
> construct of my old liberal American world. Your insensitive, heavy handed
> style of governance, so much like that of a Mafia don, or the tinhorn
> despots you are allied with, has startled me into looking more closely at
> how someone like you could come to power in these United States. And once I
> started looking more closely, George, I continued digging, searching,
> analyzing. Then I fell through the looking glass and tumbled deep into the
> wonderland of our political and economic history.
>
> George, I frankly needed more time, more space, better sources of
> information, so all-consuming was the quest for truth that you launched me
> on. So I disconnected my television (no great loss there, I assure you!),
> changed my old habits and amusements, and poured my energy into study and
> examination of what had gone wrong for someone like you to be holding the
> reins of government. Thanks to you George, I also had to get beyond all
> those tired old media -- the New York Times, the Washington Post, the weekly
> news magazines, the Rupert Murdoch news holdings, the ClearChannel radio
> stations, the whole raft of corporate media that seem to be your
> cheerleaders. You also caused me to reexamine my old perceptions of the
> so-called "Democrats" and the "public" radio and television stations because
> they, too, had more and more often fallen in line with the corporate
> Weltanschauung that you embody. Thanks to you, George, I have finally
> learned what I should have learned long ago: you can't trust the Pentagon,
> the CIA, the FBI, any large corporation and anyone in the administration. If
> the Federal Reserve Board says its Black, it's probably White. If the
> Pentagon says its Hot, then it's probably Cold. If the CIA says its False,
> then it's probably True. If Wall Street says Buy, then you should Sell. If
> the DOJ says it's Constitutional, then it most likely is Not Constitutional.
>
> I'm on a journey now, George, and I have you to thank for pushing me off on
> it. You gave me a big shove into unknown waters when you said that I'm
> either with you or I'm against you. You shoved me off because I am most
> definitely not with you. I admit that it's a little scary because I'm not
> certain where it all leads, George. I am certain, however, that it leads far
> away from the illusory world of faux democracy, deceptocracy, secret
> government, torture, lawlessness, economic and political degeneracy that you
> epitomize.
>
> I think, George, that quite frankly you scare a lot of people. No, I'm not
> talking about little people like me. I think you scare the bejeezers out the
> mucky-mucks who own and run you, the people who bankrolled your career and
> who pull your puppet strings. You frighten them because they must recognize
> how effective you have been in startling whole masses of people like me, in
> the U.S. and elsewhere, into undertaking similar journeys. In short, you,
> George, have the capacity to single-handedly rip the veil off the 200-plus
> year illusion of American exceptionalism, economic aggression and
> exclusionary politics that has sustained our national ego for all this time.
> You, George, seem to have the innate ability to disillusion oh so many
> millions of people with our hollow economic, political and social orders so
> that, more than any progressive, more than any liberal, more than any
> revolutionary, you could actually kick out the psychic props that hold up
> the whole rotten edifice. Thus are you most frightening to those who
> desperately want to paint the smiley face back on capitalism, who want to
> re-clothe the iron military fist in silken gloves of "diplomacy" and who
> want to restore the myth that America is somehow better than everyone else.
> You, George, have not even bothered with the niceties of gloving your bloody
> hands in silk. You have not trifled with the diplomacy of manners or the
> perfume of noble causes. Yours is the face of raw, naked power. You have
> dropped the mask, George, and the face you show us is not the one that our
> Owners and Leaders want us to see.
>
> Equally frightening to the Leaders and Owners and String-Pullers of our
> world is how effectively you have discredited most of the major institutions
> they rely on to command respect and obedience from all of us. By packing the
> Courts with right wing radicals you have denigrated the judiciary. By
> cozying up with fanatical religious bigots, you have undermined the
> respectability of the religion you profess. By claiming the power to
> eavesdrop, kidnap, torture, incarcerate and wage war, literally at will, you
> have debased the presidency and proved the need for a weaker, a more
> constrained Executive Branch of Government. By manipulating world financial
> institutions, discarding treaties willy-nilly, and force-feeding your
> authoritarian brand of top-down "democracy" down the throats of the
> unwilling, you have caused disrepute for everything that you tout.
>
> Of course, I completely understand, George, that America is not better, or
> worse, than any other nation on earth. Given the same degree of power and
> opportunity, every civilization, every ethnicity, culture, religion, empire
> or nation has done, or would do the same. There is no more criminality, no
> more avarice, greed or corruption in our body politic or among our people --
> nor any more "goodness", charity, benevolence, wisdom, insight or piety
> either -- than in any other place on the face of the earth. What
> distinguishes the U.S. from everyone everywhere else is the current balance
> of political, economic and military power. We have it; others don't.
>
> But the mere recognition that we are fundamentally no different than anyone
> else threatens the mythology that has stoked our hallucination for many
> decades. What you have therefore caused me to understand, George, is that
> even impeaching you is not sufficient. Replacing you with a prettier face or
> a nicer president or a Democratic Congress is not enough. Nostalgia for a
> better time is not enough. George, what you have taught me is that there
> really is nothing to be nostalgic for.
>
> That doesn't mean that we shouldn't cherry-pick the best from whatever any
> culture or economic or political theory can offer. It simply means that we
> have to look forward to creating new and better systems, rather than just
> dumping your kind and returning to a mistaken nostalgia for a past that
> never was. This is a troubling understanding, but thanks to you, George,
> many people now think that way.
>
> By the way, George, particularly as to you, I have a theory, why your poll
> numbers have plummeted. Please don't take this as a personal attack, because
> I really am grateful to you. You see, it's really not what you do that
> alienates even your erstwhile supporters, but how you do it.
>
> Surely, in the past, many American presidents and politicians and
> businessmen have instigated unjust wars and wreaked havoc among the
> downtrodden in order to line their own pockets and protect their real
> constituents' economic interests. Many Americans could tolerate the
> injustice of what was done in their names because these past acts were often
> deftly carried out and the protocols of social illusion were respected.
> Moreover, many Americans perceived that they benefited from these
> injustices, albeit indirectly, and, in some instances, they even shared the
> biases that blessed the travesties that were committed.
>
> But you're something special, George. You're inept. A bungler. An
> incompetent. You have no finesse. Indeed, throughout history, many have
> shown themselves quite willing to accept the evils dished out by their
> leaders. But incompetence -- whoa Bessie! -- that is the one unforgivable
> sin. For many of your own disappointed supporters, including the country's
> legitimately worried power elite, you should be impeached for your bungling
> and ineptitude, if not for the actual deeds that you have done. America
> hates a loser, George, and you're a loser.
>
> As for me, personally, I'd like you to stay on in office, George. I don't
> want you to be impeached. I would like it if you fulfilled the remaining
> three agonizingly long years of your presidency (if only we could keep your
> twitchy fingers off the nuclear button and prevent you from attacking anyone
> else). A few more years of you -- should the world survive them -- and some
> of the critically important lessons for change might actually take root. For
> you have become such a wonderful enzyme, such a potent catalyst for our
> collective political and economic education, that were you out of office and
> some pretty-faced, old style, more adroit political deceiver in charge, then
> we might all start to slip back into our dreamland; we might all backslide
> into complacency, slip back into the hallucination and politically
> degenerate state of our pre-Bush years.
>
> So be assured, George: I, we, indeed the whole world appreciates what you
> are doing for us. You are still an ignoramus, a liar and a thug, but we
> appreciate you.
>
> Zbignew Zingh can be reached at: Zbig@ersarts.com. This Article is CopyLeft,
> and free to distribute, reprint, repost, sing at a recital, spray paint,
> scribble in a toilet stall, etc. to your heart's content, with proper author
> citation. Find out more about Copyleft and read other great articles at:
> www.ersarts.com. copyleft 2006
>
>
>
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TOPIC: KHAZARS AND KARAIMS ARE NOT SEMITES BY ANY STRETCH OF IMAGINATION
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/62f1b2b9c74c9860
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 3 2006 5:36 am
From: Miriam Cohen
On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:52:40 GMT, flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>
>On 2-Apr-2006, "Scott Nudds" <sc0tt_nudds@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> AnonMoos asked:
>>
>> >How seriously are we to take the claims of somebody who doesn't know
>> >enough about Hebrew to tell apart a singular from a clear plural???
>>
>> How pedantically puerile of you.
>
>Dodge noted.
>>
>> Grammar and speling Nazis pompous fools are.
>
>This was a little more complicated than that, but thanks for playing -
>and showing that you have no defense for the things the bigots were saying.
>
>Susan
Thanks for demonstrating *yet again* that you are the Internet's
thickest Irish cunt!
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TOPIC: PKK Violence escalates, more deaths today in Amed
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/998ecde8179347cf
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 9:39 pm
From: "rick murphy"
http://www.turkishforum.com/pkk/img/photos/bebek_katili1.jpg
http://www.turkishforum.com/greece/visual.html
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com, <pasa_as...@kurdistan.kd>) is a self
proclaimed PKK terrorist and proud of his murders living off british
taxpayers goodwill in Belfast, UK.
++++++++++++++++=
"From: Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com)
Subject: Re: Kuwerdish contribution to Oscar 2005
This is the only article in this thread
View: Original Format
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian, soc.culture.kurdish,
soc.culture.turkish, soc.culture.iraq
Date: 2004-10-02 04:55:12 PST
We are the TERRORISTS...
We will divide Iran, Turkey, Syria and Iraq in to the pieces until
ever single individual is free from thought control, torture and
brain-washing! Every nation should have their own land where they can
practice their own culture. Iran has consist of about 20 some
different nations and we will tore them in to 20 different countries
and give mollahs a small land where they can practice their barbaric
religion to themselves and only harm temselves.
WE WILL BREAK IRAN IN TO THE PIECES!!! "
++++++++++++++++++
http://www.hurriyetim.com.tr/haber/0,,sid~381@nvid~607454,00.asp
Ereli: Our common interest is to stop the PKK
The U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli in response to whether
the US would allow Turkey to enter the north of Iraq in order to
eliminate the terrorist organization, the Kurdistan Workers Party
(PKK), said that he was unaware that such a statement had been made and
that if it did become a question, the necessary military authorities
would deal with it.
Ereli reiterated that the US recognised the PKK as a terrorist
organization and would act with its common interest with Turkey in
preventing terrorism activities of the PKK.
"Both Turkey and the United States consider PKK a terrorist
organization. Both countries are active against PKK," Ereli indicated.
He noted that the two countries would continue to cooperate and work
together on this matter.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=42380
Boucher: Ocalan Is A Terrorist Who Belongs In A Prison Cell
Published: 5/19/2005
WASHINGTON D.C. - The United States Department of State has announced
that Abdullah Ocalan is a terrorist who ''belongs in a prison cell.''
The U.S. Department of State has indicated that it took note of the
recent decision made by the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on
Ocalan and that this topic will be best handled by Turkey.
Spokesman of the U.S. Department of State Richard Boucher has said that
the U.S. continues to regard the PKK as a terrorist organization.
Describing Ocalan as a terrorist who belongs in a prison cell, Boucher
said that they did take a note of the ECHR decision.
Yet we believe that this topic would most appropriately be handled by
Turkey itself, commented Boucher.
+++++++++++++++++++
http://www.turkses.com/index.asp
The Terror Organization KADEK
1. General
Historical Background
The initial activities regarding the terror organization PKK have
started with the intellectual activities of some students defending the
Marxist-Leninist ideology within the Ankara's Democratic Patriotic
Students Association (ADYÖD) under the leadership of Abdullah ÖCALAN
since 1973.
Abdullah ÖCALAN and his friends declared the setting up of the
Kurdistan's Workers Party (PKK) during an illegal meeting held in the
Diyarbakir province, Lice district, Fis village on November 27, 1978
which was called 1 st. Congress.
The inital documents stating PKK's aim were the "The Way Of
Kurdistan's Revolution-Manifesto" and party program published in 1978.
According to the said program, the aim of the terror organization is to
found initially an independent Marxist-Leninist Kurdistan state in the
East and Southeast Anatolian regions in Turkey by using the method of
armed propaganda and to achieve subsequently its final goal of
establishing an "Independent United Kurdistan" through the unification
of the Kurdish states to be founded in neighboring countries.
To this end, the terror organization PKK having officially declared
the commencement of its armed activities following the bloody attacks
on the districts Eruh and Þemdinli on August 15, 1984 has determined
four-stage strategy in order to divide and destroy Turkey by trying to
gather some part of the people, who have been living in peace within
the country for thousands of years, on a separate territory under a
different flag claiming that they have allegedly a different identity.
According to the above-mentioned strategy, it has been intended to;
- Obtain certain cultural and social rights at the first stage,
- Set up an autonomy or another administrative system of federation
type at the second stage,
- Establish the alleged North Kurdistan in our territory at the
third stage and
- Found an independent and united Kurdistan state in the region to
include some parts of Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian territories at the
final stage.
To this end, the terror organization PKK has adopted the method of
separatism-based, three-phased armed propaganda which was called the
war of people, and based on violence directed against the regional
people. Accordingly, the terror organization PKK has aimed at.
- Completing strategic defense stage through armed propaganda,
alleged guerilla war and mobile war operations under the control of its
leading staff within the framework of its ideological ideas in the
first phase,
- Partially completing the process of establishing fronts and an
army and thus, creating the strategic balance which will provide the
balance of power between the security forces and the terror
organization in the second phase and,
- Establishing saved areas in the region after triggering public
risings wherever possible by escalating the conflicts and passing into
strategic attack state when seizing the authority in the third phase,
The terror organization which has increased its armed force over 8
thousand men and raised the violence it has used against the people
regardless of their being women, elder or children to the highest level
from 1992 has not been able to achieve the above-mentioned stages until
today due to the measures taken in accordance with the "Area
Superiority Concept" put into practice from 1994, and the operations
successfully conducted by security forces. As a result, the separatist
terror organization was forced to take the decision of unilateral
ceasefire four times in 1993, 1995, 1998 and finally on September 01,
1999 in order to preserve its terrorist power.
The terror organization desiring to exploit the alleged cease-fire
as an opportunity of recovery for tactical purposes has tried to prove
that it still maintains its existence by continuing its acts and
violence against the civilians and security forces in rural, on the one
hand, carrying out sabotage and bomb attacks in the cities, on the
other hand.
The Turkish Armed Forces has gained an important success in pulling
down the terror organization and its activities to a marginal level
through a successful military operation it has conducted under the
Turkish constitution and legislation to destroy the internal threat, by
acting in a way that ensures the simultaneous implementation of a
series of administrative, social and economic measures taken to prevent
the support being provided to the terror organization.
The last achievement of the Turkish Armed Forces in struggling
against terrorism was that head of the terror organization A. ÖCALAN,
who was deported from Syria, was taken to Turkey following his capture
in Kenya/Nairobi on February 15, 1999 and brought before the
independent court.
The terror organization, tending to resort again to violence during
the period when the head of the terror organization has been taken to
Turkey and brought before the judge, has been able to adapt itself to
the new situation in a short time within the framework of the defense
that head of the terror organization has made in the court and has
tried to reach its goal by exploiting Turkey's EU goal and certain
values such as human rights and democratic rights widely accepted by
the international community. Within the framework of his defense in the
court, the head of the terrorist organization has changed his tactic
and begun to articulate such concepts as "Democratic Republic" and
"Democratic Middle Eastern Union" in its defense to save himself from
capital punishment.
At the VII. Congress of the terror organization held in the Kandil
Mountain region in Iraq on January 02-23, 2000 during which the new
strategy of the terror organization was agreed, it was decided that;
- The armed activities should be resumed in case of execution of
head of the terrorist organization and.
- The Kurdistan's National Liberation Army (ARGK), the alleged
military flank of the terror organization should maintain its existence
under the title of "People Defense Forces (Hezi Parastini Gel-HP) and
the Kurdistan's National Liberation Front (ERNK), the alleged political
flank of the terror organization, which mainly carries out activities
in European countries under the "Kurdish Democratic People Union
(Yekita Democratic A Gele Kurd-YDK) until appropriate legal
arrangements regarding recognition of the Kurdish identity in Turkey
and constitutional guarantees are provided.
The legalization plan that the terror organization has developed
according to its new strategy agreed during its congress, provides for
the followings:
- Giving the message that it is ready to make peace with the
government of Turkish Republic in order to obtain the status of being
recognized as a party in national and international public opinion,
- Handing over some terrorists to the security forces to convince
the public opinion that it is allegedly ready to make peace,
- Making political studies within the People's Democratic Party
(HADEP), which has political connection with the terror organization,
or a similar legal organization, and cooperating with other political
parties,
- Making guiding studies within the municipalities governed by
HADEP to broaden grass roots,
- Having contacts and cooperating with intellectuals from all
circles in Turkey's democratization to ensure the alleged cultural
rights of Kurds being recognized,
- Demanding that the Turkish government should make legal changes
to prove its goodwill through the human rights organizations,
- Bringing up the education in Kurdish language,
- Ensuring the Kurdish identity coming to the fore by focusing on
cultural activities,
- Organizing campaigns in order to ensure the scope of the law of
amnesty being extended,
The terror organization has attempted by its new plan to reach its
final goal that it could not achieve through its armed struggle it has
been carrying out for 16 years, through legalization efforts. To this
end, it has increased its activities it has conducted under the title
of the "Democratic Republic" at home and under "Political Settlement (
Solution ) To The Kurdish Problem" abroad,
In the plan the terror organization developed under the name of
"Peace Project" on March 07, 2000 following the VII. Congress,
- The alleged "Kurdish Problem" and PKK terror are identified with
the Irish, Palestinian, East Timor and Basque problems and it is
requested that the related "Political Solution" initiatives should also
be taken in Turkey and,
- It is put forward that the settlement of the alleged Kurdish
problem in Turkey in accordance with the predictions of head of the
terror organization, Öcalan would also serve the settlement of the
problems in the Middle Eastern countries, and the "Democratic Middle
Eastern Union" to be set up in regional countries would lead to
economic, social and cultural developments,
- Subsequently, in its 2nd "Party Assembly" meeting held in North
Iraq in September 2000, the terror organization decided to be
reorganized to conceal its terrorist identity and began to term its
former structure with innocent titles,
- Assuming that the new strategy of the terror organization could
not be well understood and adopted by its mountain members, the terror
organization held the III. "Party Assembly" meeting between 27 February
and 03 March 2001 and focused on restructuring activities in accordance
with the decisions it took during the said meeting. In addition, the
terror organization, having assessed that the people movement
activities could not achieve the desired level, has intensified its
efforts to ensure its new strategy being accepted by its members and
supporters through a series of meetings.
In this context;
* The "Centralized Propaganda and Media Conference" was held
between 29 May and 07 June 2001 in order for the efforts in the media
field, that the terror organization considers to be insufficient, and
to reach an organized structure,
* The "1st Public Movement Conference" was held between 20 June and
02 July 2001 for the purpose of carrying out the acts and activities
the terror organization has started under the name of alleged 2nd Peace
Efforts, in a more organized manner through its supporters and
sympathizers who are directed by the front organizations,
* The "1st Public Defense Forces (HPG), Conference" was held
between 28 June and 12 July 2001 in order to develop a new structure by
making radical changes in the armed flank of the terror organization
from the armed group order and discipline to war tactics and
techniques,
* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,
* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,
* The "6th National Conference" was held on August 05-22, 2001
under the leadership of the alleged Supreme Council of the terror
organization in order to coordinate the conferences to be held in line
with the activities the terror organization carries out in various
fields and to direct all organizational efforts towards public
movements,
- The above-mentioned conferences have drawn special attention as
the ones which have been held within the framework of preparations for
the 8th Congress of the terror organization PKK. According to the
decisions taken during the said conferences, various campaigns have
been organized primarily in Europe and subsequently in Turkey for the
purpose of gaining support for the requests of constitutional
recognition of the Kurdish identity and the use of Kurdish language as
the language of education. However, the terror organization has not
been able to reach the desired level of participation by the people.
- On the other hand, the terror organization has focused on
re-establishment of the terrorist groups not directly affected by the
security forces and on their armed training in raid, laying ambush and
sabotage. The disagreements arising within the terror organization,
PKK-KPU conflict and escape of nearly five hundred Syrian terrorists
from the terror organization in particular have been the noticeable
problems that the terror organization has faced within the period under
review.
- In the meantime, the defense that head of the terror organization
has developed for his trial lasting in the European Court of Human
Rights has been printed by the terrorist organization in a two-volume
book under the title of "From the Sumerian Monastic State To The
Democratic Republic", accepted as the second manifesto and begun to be
used as a guide document for all activities carried out by the terror
organization and as a basic document in the ideological training of the
terrorist organization's members and supporters.
- The 8th Congress preparations which have lasted for a long time
in accordance with the outline of the said defense of head of the
terrorist organization was held in the Kandil Mountain region in
Northern Iraq on April 04-10, 2002 with the participation of 285
terrorist's 106 of whom were women and 179 men as well as about 100
audiences,
- In the said congress during which the activities the terror
organization PKK has conducted in the past and report developed
according to the defense of head of the terror organization and
submitted to the congress have also been evaluated, it has been pointed
out that;
* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,
* However, the ideology and modus operandi adopted by the terror
organization at the beginning have failed due to the collapse of the
former Soviet system and the anti-terror environment arising following
the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the US and,
* It has been the time that PKK would be replaced by a completely
new formation in order not to be included in the list of terrorist
organizations, and it must undergo restructuring beginning from its
ideology to its lowest-level units, including a change in its
organizational title,
* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,
* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,
* The "6th National Conference" was held on August 05-22, 2001
under the leadership of the alleged Supreme Council of the terror
organization in order to coordinate the conferences to be held in line
with the activities the terror organization carries out in various
fields and to direct all organizational efforts towards public
movements,
- The above-mentioned conferences have drawn special attention as
the ones which have been held within the framework of preparations for
the 8th Congress of the terror organization PKK. According to the
decisions taken during the said conferences, various campaigns have
been organized primarily in Europe and subsequently in Turkey for the
purpose of gaining support for the requests of constitutional
recognition of the Kurdish identity and the use of Kurdish language as
the language of education. However, the terror organization has not
been able to reach the desired level of participation by the people.
- On the other hand, the terror organization has focused on
re-establishment of the terrorist groups not directly affected by the
security forces and on their armed training in raid, laying ambush and
sabotage. The disagreements arising within the terror organization,
PKK-KPU conflict and escape of nearly five hundred Syrian terrorists
from the terror organization in particular have been the noticeable
problems that the terror organization has faced within the period under
review.
- In the meantime, the defense that head of the terror organization
has developed for his trial lasting in the European Court of Human
Rights has been printed by the terrorist organization in a two-volume
book under the title of "From the Sumerian Monastic State To The
Democratic Republic", accepted as the second manifesto and begun to be
used as a guide document for all activities carried out by the terror
organization and as a basic document in the ideological training of the
terrorist organization's members and supporters.
- The 8th Congress preparations which have lasted for a long time
in accordance with the outline of the said defense of head of the
terrorist organization was held in the Kandil Mountain region in
Northern Iraq on April 04-10, 2002 with the participation of 285
terrorist's 106 of whom were women and 179 men as well as about 100
audiences,
- In the said congress during which the activities the terror
organization PKK has conducted in the past and report developed
according to the defense of head of the terror organization and
submitted to the congress have also been evaluated, it has been pointed
out that;
* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,
* However, the ideology and modus operandi adopted by the terror
organization at the beginning have failed due to the collapse of the
former Soviet system and the anti-terror environment arising following
the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the US and,
* It has been the time that PKK would be replaced by a completely
new formation in order not to be included in the list of terrorist
organizations, and it must undergo restructuring beginning from its
ideology to its lowest-level units, including a change in its
organizational title,
- During its 8th Congress, the terror organization has stated that
PKK's role has ended under current circumstances and decided that;
* It will not use the title "PKK" in the activities it carries out
in every field from April 04, 2002 when the birthday of head of the
terrorists is,
* It will conduct its activities under the title "Kurdistan's
Freedom and Democracy Congress-KADEK" from now on in accordance with a
new program, statute and organization based on the solution of Kurdish
problem in line with the main points of the defense that head of the
terrorists has submitted to the European Court of Human Rights within
the existing borders in four countries,
* PKK considers KADEK as its sole legal representative and disposes
of its moral and physical acquisitions to KADEK. The terror
organization made a press conference in Belgium/Brussels on April 16,
2000 and publicized its decisions.
- In the meantime, the fact that the inclusion of the PKK in the
list of terrorist organizations developed by the European Union member
nations which was issued on May 4, 2002 has led the members of the
terrorist organizations into great concern regarding the possible
inclusion of KADEK in the list of terrorist organizations. For this
reason, the terror organization has immediately begun to make protests
against such nations as Denmark, Spain, the UK who have had an effect
on the related decision-making,
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TOPIC: Globalization and Princess Diana
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3bfb9eb418f870b9
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 3 2006 4:39 am
From: Ajanta
http://www.dawn.com/2006/04/03/fea.htm#1
What is globalization? An interesting example from Dawn:
"Princess Diana, an English princess with an Egyptian boyfriend crashes
in a French tunnel, driving a German car, driven by a Belgian who was
drunk on Scotish whisky, followed closely by Italian paparazzi, on
Japanese motorcycles, treated by an American doctor, using Brazilian
medicines. This message was created by an Indian on a Chinese phone
smuggled by an Afghan and sent to you by a Pakistani."
=
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TOPIC: PKK babykillers: "We are the TERRORISTS..."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/1b6da13e3334857d
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 9:50 pm
From: "rick murphy"
http://www.turkishforum.com/pkk/img/photos/bebek_katili1.jpg
http://www.turkishforum.com/greece/visual.html
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com, <pasa_as...@kurdistan.kd>) is a self
proclaimed PKK terrorist and proud of his murders living off british
taxpayers goodwill in Belfast, UK.
++++++++++++++++=
"From: Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com)
Subject: Re: Kuwerdish contribution to Oscar 2005
This is the only article in this thread
View: Original Format
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian, soc.culture.kurdish,
soc.culture.turkish, soc.culture.iraq
Date: 2004-10-02 04:55:12 PST
We are the TERRORISTS...
We will divide Iran, Turkey, Syria and Iraq in to the pieces until
ever single individual is free from thought control, torture and
brain-washing! Every nation should have their own land where they can
practice their own culture. Iran has consist of about 20 some
different nations and we will tore them in to 20 different countries
and give mollahs a small land where they can practice their barbaric
religion to themselves and only harm temselves.
WE WILL BREAK IRAN IN TO THE PIECES!!! "
++++++++++++++++++
http://www.hurriyetim.com.tr/haber/0,,sid~381@nvid~607454,00.asp
Ereli: Our common interest is to stop the PKK
The U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli in response to whether
the US would allow Turkey to enter the north of Iraq in order to
eliminate the terrorist organization, the Kurdistan Workers Party
(PKK), said that he was unaware that such a statement had been made and
that if it did become a question, the necessary military authorities
would deal with it.
Ereli reiterated that the US recognised the PKK as a terrorist
organization and would act with its common interest with Turkey in
preventing terrorism activities of the PKK.
"Both Turkey and the United States consider PKK a terrorist
organization. Both countries are active against PKK," Ereli indicated.
He noted that the two countries would continue to cooperate and work
together on this matter.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=42380
Boucher: Ocalan Is A Terrorist Who Belongs In A Prison Cell
Published: 5/19/2005
WASHINGTON D.C. - The United States Department of State has announced
that Abdullah Ocalan is a terrorist who ''belongs in a prison cell.''
The U.S. Department of State has indicated that it took note of the
recent decision made by the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on
Ocalan and that this topic will be best handled by Turkey.
Spokesman of the U.S. Department of State Richard Boucher has said that
the U.S. continues to regard the PKK as a terrorist organization.
Describing Ocalan as a terrorist who belongs in a prison cell, Boucher
said that they did take a note of the ECHR decision.
Yet we believe that this topic would most appropriately be handled by
Turkey itself, commented Boucher.
+++++++++++++++++++
http://www.turkses.com/index.asp
The Terror Organization KADEK
1. General
Historical Background
The initial activities regarding the terror organization PKK have
started with the intellectual activities of some students defending the
Marxist-Leninist ideology within the Ankara's Democratic Patriotic
Students Association (ADYÖD) under the leadership of Abdullah ÖCALAN
since 1973.
Abdullah ÖCALAN and his friends declared the setting up of the
Kurdistan's Workers Party (PKK) during an illegal meeting held in the
Diyarbakir province, Lice district, Fis village on November 27, 1978
which was called 1 st. Congress.
The inital documents stating PKK's aim were the "The Way Of
Kurdistan's Revolution-Manifesto" and party program published in 1978.
According to the said program, the aim of the terror organization is to
found initially an independent Marxist-Leninist Kurdistan state in the
East and Southeast Anatolian regions in Turkey by using the method of
armed propaganda and to achieve subsequently its final goal of
establishing an "Independent United Kurdistan" through the unification
of the Kurdish states to be founded in neighboring countries.
To this end, the terror organization PKK having officially declared
the commencement of its armed activities following the bloody attacks
on the districts Eruh and Þemdinli on August 15, 1984 has determined
four-stage strategy in order to divide and destroy Turkey by trying to
gather some part of the people, who have been living in peace within
the country for thousands of years, on a separate territory under a
different flag claiming that they have allegedly a different identity.
According to the above-mentioned strategy, it has been intended to;
- Obtain certain cultural and social rights at the first stage,
- Set up an autonomy or another administrative system of federation
type at the second stage,
- Establish the alleged North Kurdistan in our territory at the
third stage and
- Found an independent and united Kurdistan state in the region to
include some parts of Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian territories at the
final stage.
To this end, the terror organization PKK has adopted the method of
separatism-based, three-phased armed propaganda which was called the
war of people, and based on violence directed against the regional
people. Accordingly, the terror organization PKK has aimed at.
- Completing strategic defense stage through armed propaganda,
alleged guerilla war and mobile war operations under the control of its
leading staff within the framework of its ideological ideas in the
first phase,
- Partially completing the process of establishing fronts and an
army and thus, creating the strategic balance which will provide the
balance of power between the security forces and the terror
organization in the second phase and,
- Establishing saved areas in the region after triggering public
risings wherever possible by escalating the conflicts and passing into
strategic attack state when seizing the authority in the third phase,
The terror organization which has increased its armed force over 8
thousand men and raised the violence it has used against the people
regardless of their being women, elder or children to the highest level
from 1992 has not been able to achieve the above-mentioned stages until
today due to the measures taken in accordance with the "Area
Superiority Concept" put into practice from 1994, and the operations
successfully conducted by security forces. As a result, the separatist
terror organization was forced to take the decision of unilateral
ceasefire four times in 1993, 1995, 1998 and finally on September 01,
1999 in order to preserve its terrorist power.
The terror organization desiring to exploit the alleged cease-fire
as an opportunity of recovery for tactical purposes has tried to prove
that it still maintains its existence by continuing its acts and
violence against the civilians and security forces in rural, on the one
hand, carrying out sabotage and bomb attacks in the cities, on the
other hand.
The Turkish Armed Forces has gained an important success in pulling
down the terror organization and its activities to a marginal level
through a successful military operation it has conducted under the
Turkish constitution and legislation to destroy the internal threat, by
acting in a way that ensures the simultaneous implementation of a
series of administrative, social and economic measures taken to prevent
the support being provided to the terror organization.
The last achievement of the Turkish Armed Forces in struggling
against terrorism was that head of the terror organization A. ÖCALAN,
who was deported from Syria, was taken to Turkey following his capture
in Kenya/Nairobi on February 15, 1999 and brought before the
independent court.
The terror organization, tending to resort again to violence during
the period when the head of the terror organization has been taken to
Turkey and brought before the judge, has been able to adapt itself to
the new situation in a short time within the framework of the defense
that head of the terror organization has made in the court and has
tried to reach its goal by exploiting Turkey's EU goal and certain
values such as human rights and democratic rights widely accepted by
the international community. Within the framework of his defense in the
court, the head of the terrorist organization has changed his tactic
and begun to articulate such concepts as "Democratic Republic" and
"Democratic Middle Eastern Union" in its defense to save himself from
capital punishment.
At the VII. Congress of the terror organization held in the Kandil
Mountain region in Iraq on January 02-23, 2000 during which the new
strategy of the terror organization was agreed, it was decided that;
- The armed activities should be resumed in case of execution of
head of the terrorist organization and.
- The Kurdistan's National Liberation Army (ARGK), the alleged
military flank of the terror organization should maintain its existence
under the title of "People Defense Forces (Hezi Parastini Gel-HP) and
the Kurdistan's National Liberation Front (ERNK), the alleged political
flank of the terror organization, which mainly carries out activities
in European countries under the "Kurdish Democratic People Union
(Yekita Democratic A Gele Kurd-YDK) until appropriate legal
arrangements regarding recognition of the Kurdish identity in Turkey
and constitutional guarantees are provided.
The legalization plan that the terror organization has developed
according to its new strategy agreed during its congress, provides for
the followings:
- Giving the message that it is ready to make peace with the
government of Turkish Republic in order to obtain the status of being
recognized as a party in national and international public opinion,
- Handing over some terrorists to the security forces to convince
the public opinion that it is allegedly ready to make peace,
- Making political studies within the People's Democratic Party
(HADEP), which has political connection with the terror organization,
or a similar legal organization, and cooperating with other political
parties,
- Making guiding studies within the municipalities governed by
HADEP to broaden grass roots,
- Having contacts and cooperating with intellectuals from all
circles in Turkey's democratization to ensure the alleged cultural
rights of Kurds being recognized,
- Demanding that the Turkish government should make legal changes
to prove its goodwill through the human rights organizations,
- Bringing up the education in Kurdish language,
- Ensuring the Kurdish identity coming to the fore by focusing on
cultural activities,
- Organizing campaigns in order to ensure the scope of the law of
amnesty being extended,
The terror organization has attempted by its new plan to reach its
final goal that it could not achieve through its armed struggle it has
been carrying out for 16 years, through legalization efforts. To this
end, it has increased its activities it has conducted under the title
of the "Democratic Republic" at home and under "Political Settlement (
Solution ) To The Kurdish Problem" abroad,
In the plan the terror organization developed under the name of
"Peace Project" on March 07, 2000 following the VII. Congress,
- The alleged "Kurdish Problem" and PKK terror are identified with
the Irish, Palestinian, East Timor and Basque problems and it is
requested that the related "Political Solution" initiatives should also
be taken in Turkey and,
- It is put forward that the settlement of the alleged Kurdish
problem in Turkey in accordance with the predictions of head of the
terror organization, Öcalan would also serve the settlement of the
problems in the Middle Eastern countries, and the "Democratic Middle
Eastern Union" to be set up in regional countries would lead to
economic, social and cultural developments,
- Subsequently, in its 2nd "Party Assembly" meeting held in North
Iraq in September 2000, the terror organization decided to be
reorganized to conceal its terrorist identity and began to term its
former structure with innocent titles,
- Assuming that the new strategy of the terror organization could
not be well understood and adopted by its mountain members, the terror
organization held the III. "Party Assembly" meeting between 27 February
and 03 March 2001 and focused on restructuring activities in accordance
with the decisions it took during the said meeting. In addition, the
terror organization, having assessed that the people movement
activities could not achieve the desired level, has intensified its
efforts to ensure its new strategy being accepted by its members and
supporters through a series of meetings.
In this context;
* The "Centralized Propaganda and Media Conference" was held
between 29 May and 07 June 2001 in order for the efforts in the media
field, that the terror organization considers to be insufficient, and
to reach an organized structure,
* The "1st Public Movement Conference" was held between 20 June and
02 July 2001 for the purpose of carrying out the acts and activities
the terror organization has started under the name of alleged 2nd Peace
Efforts, in a more organized manner through its supporters and
sympathizers who are directed by the front organizations,
* The "1st Public Defense Forces (HPG), Conference" was held
between 28 June and 12 July 2001 in order to develop a new structure by
making radical changes in the armed flank of the terror organization
from the armed group order and discipline to war tactics and
techniques,
* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,
* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,
* The "6th National Conference" was held on August 05-22, 2001
under the leadership of the alleged Supreme Council of the terror
organization in order to coordinate the conferences to be held in line
with the activities the terror organization carries out in various
fields and to direct all organizational efforts towards public
movements,
- The above-mentioned conferences have drawn special attention as
the ones which have been held within the framework of preparations for
the 8th Congress of the terror organization PKK. According to the
decisions taken during the said conferences, various campaigns have
been organized primarily in Europe and subsequently in Turkey for the
purpose of gaining support for the requests of constitutional
recognition of the Kurdish identity and the use of Kurdish language as
the language of education. However, the terror organization has not
been able to reach the desired level of participation by the people.
- On the other hand, the terror organization has focused on
re-establishment of the terrorist groups not directly affected by the
security forces and on their armed training in raid, laying ambush and
sabotage. The disagreements arising within the terror organization,
PKK-KPU conflict and escape of nearly five hundred Syrian terrorists
from the terror organization in particular have been the noticeable
problems that the terror organization has faced within the period under
review.
- In the meantime, the defense that head of the terror organization
has developed for his trial lasting in the European Court of Human
Rights has been printed by the terrorist organization in a two-volume
book under the title of "From the Sumerian Monastic State To The
Democratic Republic", accepted as the second manifesto and begun to be
used as a guide document for all activities carried out by the terror
organization and as a basic document in the ideological training of the
terrorist organization's members and supporters.
- The 8th Congress preparations which have lasted for a long time
in accordance with the outline of the said defense of head of the
terrorist organization was held in the Kandil Mountain region in
Northern Iraq on April 04-10, 2002 with the participation of 285
terrorist's 106 of whom were women and 179 men as well as about 100
audiences,
- In the said congress during which the activities the terror
organization PKK has conducted in the past and report developed
according to the defense of head of the terror organization and
submitted to the congress have also been evaluated, it has been pointed
out that;
* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,
* However, the ideology and modus operandi adopted by the terror
organization at the beginning have failed due to the collapse of the
former Soviet system and the anti-terror environment arising following
the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the US and,
* It has been the time that PKK would be replaced by a completely
new formation in order not to be included in the list of terrorist
organizations, and it must undergo restructuring beginning from its
ideology to its lowest-level units, including a change in its
organizational title,
* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,
* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,
* The "6th National Conference" was held on August 05-22, 2001
under the leadership of the alleged Supreme Council of the terror
organization in order to coordinate the conferences to be held in line
with the activities the terror organization carries out in various
fields and to direct all organizational efforts towards public
movements,
- The above-mentioned conferences have drawn special attention as
the ones which have been held within the framework of preparations for
the 8th Congress of the terror organization PKK. According to the
decisions taken during the said conferences, various campaigns have
been organized primarily in Europe and subsequently in Turkey for the
purpose of gaining support for the requests of constitutional
recognition of the Kurdish identity and the use of Kurdish language as
the language of education. However, the terror organization has not
been able to reach the desired level of participation by the people.
- On the other hand, the terror organization has focused on
re-establishment of the terrorist groups not directly affected by the
security forces and on their armed training in raid, laying ambush and
sabotage. The disagreements arising within the terror organization,
PKK-KPU conflict and escape of nearly five hundred Syrian terrorists
from the terror organization in particular have been the noticeable
problems that the terror organization has faced within the period under
review.
- In the meantime, the defense that head of the terror organization
has developed for his trial lasting in the European Court of Human
Rights has been printed by the terrorist organization in a two-volume
book under the title of "From the Sumerian Monastic State To The
Democratic Republic", accepted as the second manifesto and begun to be
used as a guide document for all activities carried out by the terror
organization and as a basic document in the ideological training of the
terrorist organization's members and supporters.
- The 8th Congress preparations which have lasted for a long time
in accordance with the outline of the said defense of head of the
terrorist organization was held in the Kandil Mountain region in
Northern Iraq on April 04-10, 2002 with the participation of 285
terrorist's 106 of whom were women and 179 men as well as about 100
audiences,
- In the said congress during which the activities the terror
organization PKK has conducted in the past and report developed
according to the defense of head of the terror organization and
submitted to the congress have also been evaluated, it has been pointed
out that;
* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,
* However, the ideology and modus operandi adopted by the terror
organization at the beginning have failed due to the collapse of the
former Soviet system and the anti-terror environment arising following
the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the US and,
* It has been the time that PKK would be replaced by a completely
new formation in order not to be included in the list of terrorist
organizations, and it must undergo restructuring beginning from its
ideology to its lowest-level units, including a change in its
organizational title,
- During its 8th Congress, the terror organization has stated that
PKK's role has ended under current circumstances and decided that;
* It will not use the title "PKK" in the activities it carries out
in every field from April 04, 2002 when the birthday of head of the
terrorists is,
* It will conduct its activities under the title "Kurdistan's
Freedom and Democracy Congress-KADEK" from now on in accordance with a
new program, statute and organization based on the solution of Kurdish
problem in line with the main points of the defense that head of the
terrorists has submitted to the European Court of Human Rights within
the existing borders in four countries,
* PKK considers KADEK as its sole legal representative and disposes
of its moral and physical acquisitions to KADEK. The terror
organization made a press conference in Belgium/Brussels on April 16,
2000 and publicized its decisions.
- In the meantime, the fact that the inclusion of the PKK in the
list of terrorist organizations developed by the European Union member
nations which was issued on May 4, 2002 has led the members of the
terrorist organizations into great concern regarding the possible
inclusion of KADEK in the list of terrorist organizations. For this
reason, the terror organization has immediately begun to make protests
against such nations as Denmark, Spain, the UK who have had an effect
on the related decision-making,
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TOPIC: Space mirrors can provide all the energy humankind will ever need
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Date: Mon, Apr 3 2006 4:59 am
From: The Ghost In The Machine
On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:15:02 +0000, jimp wrote:
> In sci.physics habshi <hi@anony> wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:24:29 GMT, "CWatters"
>> <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote:
>> >
>> How much energy would that take to dig I wonder?
>
>> Where would you put the dirt? Can't dump it in the sea!<
>
>> You make mountains of the dirt or use them in houses , roads
>> etc.
>
> Building houses, roads, etc. usually requires the removal of dirt, not
> the addition of dirt.
Pedant point: Adobe brick. :-) However, that's not dirt; it's more like
specially processed dirt mixed with water and straw, then left to bake in
the sun. Nor would one really want all that brick.
>
>> I think the energy costs of such a lake are minimal , and then
>> from evaporation you get millions of acres of new fertile soil
>
> How does evaporation make soil fertile?
>
> Do you know what "fertile" means?
I wonder. There's some interesting issues regarding transpiration that
puzzle me, although I'm not quite sure how to ask them. It's occasionally
claimed, for instance, that a certain acreage of grass is equivalent to a
certain number of air conditioners. This might be true if one thinks of
the grass as transpiring water, causing it to evaporate and cool the grass
(and the surrounding air); the flip side is that the air becomes more
humid as well. At some point, in fact, it becomes too humid to accept any
more water.
(In California, and presumably in Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, and
other such places, one runs the risk of running low on water as well,
although this year we won't have that particular problem; we're downright
soggy at this point in time, in fact.)
Admittedly, evaporating a lake, from my admittedly limited experience,
just produces -- a dry lake bed. Depending on the silt and/or other
contents thereof, the mud gets as hard as a ... well, an adobe brick. If a
suitable seed can generate enough force once it germinates in a crack of
said lake bed, and there's still enough water at some point in the year,
one might see grasses, trees, or whatnot on that lake bed.
If not, it might make for good pavement for light-duty traffic. :-) If
it doesn't convert itself into blowing desert sand first.
(One hopes Habshi hasn't seen a certain Inspector Gadget episode, either. :-) )
--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net -- go go gadget brain! *thud* Whoops...
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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TOPIC: Whining about Debra LeFave "double standard"
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 9:49 pm
From: EGB
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 17:33:25 GMT, "nimue" <cup_o_cakes@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Of course, only the woman would have real physical stuff to deal
>with.
No, the woman could fly to California and have an abortion.
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TOPIC: The Mind and Disease: Hypnosis and Health
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Date: Mon, Apr 3 2006 2:14 pm
From: "vvv"
YOUR ANSWERS QUESTIONED....
The Mind and Disease: Hypnosis and Health
Seventy percent of diseases are mind-oriented. Through hypnosis
those diseases can be prevented before they occur. Through hypnosis it can
be found out what kind of sickness is going to happen in the near future.
There are no symptoms on the body, the routine physical examination of the
person will not show any indication that he is going to be sick or ill, he
is perfectly healthy.
But through hypnosis we can find that within three weeks he is going
to fall sick, because before anything comes to the body, it comes from the
deep cosmic unconscious. It travels from there to the collective
unconscious, to the unconscious, and only then, when it comes to the
conscious mind, can it be checked and found in the body.
Sicknesses can be prevented even before the person has any idea that
he is going to be sick.
In Russia, one genius photographer, Kirlian, has even photographed
people.... His whole life he has been working in photography, with very
sensitive plates, sensitive lenses, to find something that is not available
to ordinary eyes and ordinary instruments. And he was puzzled that he can
see in his photographs at least six months ahead.
If he takes a picture of a rosebud with his special sensitive plates,
the picture is not of a rosebud, the picture is of a rose. Tomorrow it is
going to be a rose. No other camera can do that miracle.
First he himself was puzzled how the sensitive plate can take a
picture of something which has not happened yet - and when tomorrow the bud
opens up, it is exactly similar to the photograph, there is no difference at
all.
Then he discovered more and more that there is a certain aura
surrounding the bud - just an energy aura, and that energy aura has the
whole program of how the bud is going to open. The sensitive plate gets the
picture of the energy aura that we cannot see with our bare eyes. Then he
started working on diseases, and in Soviet medicine he has created a
revolution.
You need not first become sick, and then be cured. You can be cured
even before you had any knowledge of any sickness, because Kirlian
photography will show in what part the sickness is going to show, because
the energy aura will be sick, already sick. It is six months ahead. It is
connected with your cosmic unconscious.
Through hypnosis and deeper experiments with it, you can find
sicknesses that are going to happen and they can be treated.
The children can be happier. It has been a topic of concern to the
psychoanalysts why all over the world, except in a few places, seventy years
has become the routine idea of the length of life, because there are a few
tribes in Kashmir, where people have always lived one hundred and thirty
years, one hundred and forty years, one hundred and fifty, and even at the
age of one hundred and fifty they were as energetic as any young man. They
never became old, they remained young until they died.
In Soviet Russia, in the Caucasus, from where Joseph Stalin came and
George Gurdjieff came.... The Caucasus has produced really strong men. There
is a small part where people live even to one hundred and eighty years.
There are thousands of people who have passed one hundred and fifty.
One of my friends was working there and he asked a farmer, who was
tilling the ground, "How old are you?"
He counted on his fingers, because he was uneducated. He said, "It
must be nearabout one hundred and eighty."
My friend could not believe it - one hundred and eighty! And he is
still young.
He enquired in the town and they said, "He is right. His father lived
for two hundred years and we hope that he will also live two hundred years,
because no sign of death can be seen."
Psychologists have been concerned to find the reason why in a few
places people live long and in most of the world people live only the
routine seventy years.
George Bernard Shaw, when he became seventy years old, moved away from
London. His friends said, "What are you doing? In old age it is better to be
here with friends, society - and you are a man of society, a man of
culture."
He said, "I cannot live here. I am now seventy. This society believes
that people die at seventy and that belief is dangerous. I am going to find
some place where people don't believe such a thing."
And he found a small village nearby, and the way he went to find out
was to go into graveyards and look on the stones for how long people had
been living; and on a stone he found in one graveyard it said that the man
had lived one hundred and twenty years. And the graveyard stone was saying,
"He died an untimely death at the age of one hundred and twenty years."
He said, "This is the place to live, where people think that somebody
dying at one hundred and twenty is untimely." And he lived there, and he
lived long. He managed to live a century. And in that graveyard that was the
case; on all the stones nobody had died at seventy.
It seems to be that it is just a psychological programming. For
centuries we have been programmed...seven decades and you are finished. That
has gone so deep that you die, not because your body is not capable of
living, but because your psychology insists, "Follow the routine. Follow the
crowd." And in everything else you are following the crowd, so naturally you
follow the crowd psychology in this too.
Scientists say that man's body is capable of living at least three
hundred years. Just as it goes on rejuvenating itself for seventy years, in
fact it can go on for three hundred years, but the program has to be
changed. Scientists think in a different way how to change the program, and
it will take very long for them. They think the program is in the cells of
the body.
So unless we split the human cell, just as we have been able to split
the atom, and reprogram it, which seems to be far away, because even the
scratch work has not started....
But my understanding is that there is no need to go through
physiology, you can go through psychology.
If your hypnosis goes deep enough...the more you go into it, if it
becomes an every day thing, slowly, slowly you will touch the cosmic
unconscious and there is the real programming, you can change it.
Our children can live longer, our children can live healthier, our
children can live without old age. All this is possible, and we have to make
it, to show to the world, but it is dangerous in the sense that if
politicians get hold of hypnotic methods they are going to use it for their
own purposes.
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TOPIC: U.K. HINDUS BEST AT MONEY MATTERS
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Date: Mon, Apr 3 2006 5:16 am
From: usenet@mantra.comm84s and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
You are correct about this, "karthika".
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
In article <eH0Yf.533$sh3.36820@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"karthika" <mudali@sympatico.ca> posted:
> Hindus were the inventors of the NUMERAL sytem and naturally they inherit
> the skills with numbers!
>
> "fruitella" <visualseeplus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1144027782.083424.236640@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> > Coming from a poor country like India makes people want to get rich.
> > That's why new immigranted Indians want to work hard and make money.
> > They cannot believe the opportunities before them in the west. More so
> > they cannot believe why locals are not taking advantage of the system
> > of meritocracy to get wealthy.
> >
> > But after a generation or two, the decendants of that newcommers
> > generation loses the fire in the belly. They no longer have any
> > connection to their motherland. Their motherland is a far and distant
> > place from where they are disconnected. And thus begins the descent
> > into mediocracy.
> >
> > They would do best to follow Spock's advice :
> >
> > LIVE LONG & PROSPER!!!!!
> >
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > >
> > > I observe that we Hindus manage money better than any other
> > > group here in the US too.
> > >
> > > Jai Maharaj
> > > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > > Om Shanti
> > >
> > > imemind@comcast.net posted:
> > > >
> > > > Call it an Indian trait. I have seen too many people from India who
> > > > immigrated abroad with handful of money that could not have lasted
> them
> > > > even a day eventually make it big by sheer hard work, sacrifices,
> > > > frugal living and cooperative spirit. They make opportunities where
> > > > none exist. They remain uneffected by ups or downs, riches or
> poverty.
> > > > They renew their bonds with their communities in times of need, in
> > > > times of their opulence. Community that stays togather, propspers
> > > > togather. Family and community remain their focus. They always think
> of
> > > > their future needs and readily sacrifice present needs for it. This is
> > > > a typical Indian cultural mindset inhertited by most indian immigrants
> > > > - You can call it money management - but it is essentially a cultural
> > > > mindset.
> > >
> > >
> > > www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
> > > > UK Hindus best at money matters
> > > >
> > > > By Sajeda Momin
> > > > Saturday, April 1, 2006 22:37 IST
> > > >
> > > > London - Hindus are the best managers
> > > > of their personal finances and are
> > > > closely followed by Sikhs says an
> > > > official government study looking
> > > > into the financial capabilities of
> > > > households in Britain.
> > > >
> > > > The largest ever survey of consumer
> > > > attitudes to money in Britain threw
> > > > up the unexpected results and puzzled
> > > > researchers.
> > > >
> > > > The study was carried out by Personal
> > > > Finance Research Centre at the
> > > > University of Bristol on behalf of
> > > > the Financial Services Authority, a
> > > > government body, which was looking
> > > > predominantly at age and type of
> > > > households i.e. single parent, two-
> > > > parent etc. and how they dealt with
> > > > their finances.
> > > >
> > > > However the small print on those
> > > > quizzed generated a wealth of
> > > > fascinating information including
> > > > that Hindus were far above average at
> > > > managing their money. A sample 6,000
> > > > people were surveyed from all walks
> > > > of life and communities throughout
> > > > Britain and special weighting was
> > > > given to representation from the
> > > > ethnic minorities equal to their
> > > > numbers in society.
> > > >
> > > > The results showed that among
> > > > Britain's religious groups Hindus
> > > > were the best at "making ends meet",
> > > > followed very closely by Sikhs, and
> > > > they were far better than others at
> > > > managing their money were. Muslims
> > > > were also better than average and
> > > > practising Christians were just above
> > > > average. The poorest at managing
> > > > their money were non-religious groups
> > > > particularly those between the ages
> > > > of 18-40.
> > > >
> > > > The FSA developed a well-defined
> > > > scoring system for the questionnaire
> > > > and looked into issues like how good
> > > > households were at keeping track of
> > > > their finances, predicting future
> > > > expenses and attitudes towards the
> > > > use of credit and spending habits.
> > > > The survey looked at which households
> > > > planned ahead, how they chose
> > > > financial products and their
> > > > attitudes to financial risks. Cluster
> > > > analysis were carried out taking into
> > > > account the fact that some households
> > > > were of extended families in many
> > > > South Asian communities, and so the
> > > > finances were managed by one or two
> > > > persons for the whole family.
> > > >
> > > > The survey did not break up the faith
> > > > groups into communities, but
> > > > Gujaratis and Punjabis are the
> > > > largest Hindu groups living in
> > > > Britain.
> > > >
> > > > "My family emphasised that you paid
> > > > cash and did not borrow - except for
> > > > the mortgage. I have to be a good
> > > > money manager for both my business
> > > > and my two children,: said Rita
> > > > Patel, who came to Britain 30 years
> > > > ago. She now owns a newsagent shop
> > > > and lives in Harrow in northwest
> > > > London that is home to the UK's
> > > > largest Hindu community. The results
> > > > reflect the Hindu mentality of being
> > > > 'savvy' with money she said. "I was
> > > > brought up to save and not waste,"
> > > > said Patel.
> > > >
> > > > While some believe that Hinduism
> > > > stresses increasing the family's
> > > > wealth is a duty and a blessing from
> > > > Goddess Lakshmi others argued that
> > > > Hindus were generally brought up to
> > > > work hard and not splash out.
> > > >
> > > > More at:
> > > > http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1021495
> > > >
> > > > Jai Maharaj
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > > > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > > > Om Shanti
> > > >
> > > > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > > > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> > > >
> > > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > > > http://www.hindu.org
> > > > http://www.hindunet.org
> > > >
> > > > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> > > > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> > > >
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> > > > copyright owner.
> >
>
>
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TOPIC: UnIslamic experience at a FF Joint in Pak
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/eecab305cd0e06bb
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 10:18 pm
From: "baani"
> Not many female from our culture would seek confrontation. I should
> think she had an option of leaving the eatery but instead try to make
> a test of it.
> What an idiot.
The point of discussion here is not about confrontation by a women but
about display of nudity in public & whether general public has a right
to protest against it. The lady was absolutely right in protesting-
imagine the impact such display would have had on her kids..
Nusrat wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2006 11:05:30 -0800, "Kobe" <kobe@ny.com> wrote:
>
> >Nusrat,
> >
> >You are probably prejudiced by the title of "unislamic experience"
> >which seems to have been introduced by Mirza Ghalib.
> >I see nowehere in the letter above that the woman's discomfiture
> >was caused by prudish adherence to religion. I'd be
> >equally uncomfortable viewing risque/gaudy presentation with
> >my family members..
> >/Kobe
>
> Not many female from our culture would seek confrontation. I should
> think she had an option of leaving the eatery but instead try to make
> a test of it.
> What an idiot.
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TOPIC: DESDE LOS INICIOS DAL ANO 60 CUBA DIO LOS PRIMEROS PASOS PARA LA
ADOCTRINAMIENTO DEL PUEBLO
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/246be6ceb9cc4887
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 3 2006 1:12 am
From: "PM"
DESDE LOS INICIOS DAL ANO 60 CUBA DIO LOS PRIMEROS PASOS PARA LA ADOCTRINAMIENTO DEL PUEBLO
. SE FUNDARON LA LLAMADAS ESCUELAS BASICAS DE INSTRUCCION REVOLUCIONARIA, POR SUS SIGLAS "EBIR", UNA EN CADA MUNICIPIO,CON MAESTROS FORMADOS EN LAS ENIR, "ESCUELA NACIONAL DE INSTRUCCION REVOLUCIONARIA"
LA ENZENANZA DEL MARXISMO Y DEL COMUNISMO CIENTIFICO, CON TEXTOS EDITADOS EN LA URSS, ERAN LAS UNICAS ASIGNATURAS, INCLUYENDO ECONOMIA POLITICA, FILOSOFIA MATERIALISTA Y DESARROLLO HISTORICO DEL SOCIALISMO EN CUBA Y EN LA URSS.
LA FINALIDAD ERA FORMAR LOS CUADROS DE LA REVOLUCION QUE DESPUES SERIAN UBICADOS EN DIFERENES ESFERAS DE LA ECONOMIA, LA EDUCACION Y LA DEFENSA.
LA MASIVIDAD DE ESAS ENSENANZAS DESPUES SE HIZO NOTORIA SIENDO ASIGNATURAS OBLIGADAS EN TODOS LOS NIVELES DE LA ENSENANZA, POR MEDIO DE PLENOS, CONFERENCIAS Y ASIGNATURAS DEL CURRICULUM A NIVEL UNIVERSITARION EN TODAS LAS CARRERAS Y DISCIPLINAS, DESDE LAS DE LETRAS A LAS DE CIENCIAS.
EN FIN EN LAS AULAS, LA RADIO, LA TELEVISION, LA PRENSA ESCRITA, LAS PANCARTAS, LOS DISCURSOS ETC. LOS CUBANOS HAN RECIBIDO POR DECADAS UN BOMBARDEO IDELOGICO TECNICAMENTE DISENADO PARA SER EFICAZ..
RESULTO TAMANO ESFUERZO? CLARO QUE NO. ESA ES LA UNICA BATRALLA NO GANADA POR LA REVOLUCION CUBANA, LA BATALLA IDEOLOGICA.
MARX DIJO QUE EL HOMBRE PIENSA SEGUN VIVE, Y LENNIN QUE LA BURGUESIA ES PODEROSA AUN DESPUES DE DERROTADA.
LO CUBANOS EN SU INMENSA MAYORIA NUNCA CREYERON NI CREEN EN ESOS MITOS OBSOLETOS, Y EN CUBA, CONTINUAMENTE REVISADOS POR SU GENIALIDAD EL COMANDANTE EN JEFE.
DE ALLI QUE EN CADA ESTAMPIDA MASIVA PARA SALIR DEL PAIS, MILES DE CARNETS DE AFILIADOS AL PARTIDO COMUNISTA, Y A LA JUVENTUD COMUNISTA, SEAN ARROJADOS AL BASURERO, Y ENCONTRADOS POR DONDE QUIERA, PERTENECIENTES A AQUELLOS QUE ESTUVIERON FINGIENDO FIDELIDAD HASTA QUE LA OPORTUNIDAD LLEGO.
LOS COMITES DE DEFENSA DE LA REVOLUCION TAN VILIPENDIADOS POR LA GENTE DE MIAMI, SOY VERDADEROS COMITES DE OPOSITORES EN POTENCIA QUE SE ELIGEN ENTRE SI EN LAS CUADRAS PARA EVITAR QUE LOS POCOS ROJOS DEL BARRIO LES TOMEN EL PODER, Y ASI PODER COMERCIAR,COMPRAR O VENDER TODO LO QUE EN CUBA ESTA SANCIONADO POR LA LEY COMO DELITO ECONOMICO, LA CARNE DE RES Y DE EQUINO, LAS LANGOSTA Y PRODUCTOS DEL MAR, LA LECHE Y QUESOS CASEROS Y EL GRANO TOSTADO DE CAFE. CUESTION DE SUPERVIVENCIA .
LOS INTELECTUALES CUBANOS PUEDO ASEGURAR QUE NI UN 30 POR CIENTO ESTGA CON EL REGIMEN, NO OLVIDEN QUE SON GENTES QUE HAN APRENDIDO A PENSAR CON SU PROPIA CABEZA. PERO DISIMULAN Y SOLO ESPERAN LA OPORTUNIDAD DE UN VIAJECITO DE COLABORANTE AL EXTERIOR O PARA QUEDARSE O PARA VER EL MUNDO PROHOBIDO, O PARA ATRAER DOLARES A SUS FAMILIARES.
SI AMIGOS, LA REVOLUCION ES TRIUNFANTE EN LA REPRESION Y EL CONTROL DE LA CIUDADANIA. ES UN SISTEMA QUE SE MANTIENE A MININT PURO (LEASE MINISTERIO DEL INTERIOR), PERO NO TIENE CONTROL NI CABIDA EN EL CORAZON Y LA MENTE DE SUS CIUDADANOS. Y ESTO ES DEL DOMINIO OFICIAL, Y AQUELLOS QUE ME LEAN Y QUE FORMEN PARTE DE LOS ACTORES DEL DRAMA CUBANO, EN EL FONDO DE SUS MENTES ME ESTARAN DANDO LA RAZON , AUNQUE AHORA SALGAN A ATACARME, COMO UN DEBER IMPUESTO E INSOSLAYABLE, DE PARTE DE SUS SUPERIORES.
LOS LATINAMERICANOS NUNCA NOS ENTENDERAN, MIRANDO A CUBA POR LA OPTICA DEL MEDICO GRATIS, DE LA EDUCACION GRATIS Y DE LAS BECAS INTERNACIONALES CONQUE LES ABLANDAN EL CEREBRO DEBIDO A LA INJUSTICIA SOCIAL QUE PADECEN SUS PAISES RESPECTIVOS.
DE ESO HABLAREMOS DESPUES.
--
MALDITO KASTRO-TERRORISTA QUE EMPUÑA UN ARMA CONTRA SU PUEBLO!!
DAMNED KASTRO-TERRORISTS THAT POINT THEIR GUNS TOWARD THE
PEOPLE ...AND WITHOUT TRIALS EXECUTE THEM ...
SOLDADO NO PIDAS PERDÓN POR HABER SALVADO A LA NACION
SOLDIER NEVER ASK PARDON FOR SAVING THE NATION FROM TYRANNY OR ITS ENNEMIES.!
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WINSTON CHURCHILL DIJO:
El socialismo es la filosofía del fracaso, el credo a la ignorancia,
y la prédica a la envidia.
Su virtud inherente es la distribución igualitaria de la miseria.
El ejemplo mas convincente: La Cuba del 2006
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TOPIC: PRIMER ATERRIZAJE DE UN AVIÓN DE GRAN PORTE EN LA BASE MARAMBIO DE LA
ANTARTIDA ARGENTINA
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d99de34cdea05bfe
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 3 2006 1:13 am
From: "PM"
MENSAJE-14812
XXXVI ANIVERSARIO
1970 - 11 de Abril - 2006
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Desde hace varios años, a principios del mes de febrero, cursamos mensaje
similar a este, donde hacíamos recordar a la gente (algunos no lo sabían),
que el día 22 de febrero se conmemoraba el Día de la Antártida Argentina,
fecha que en el año 1904 se inició la ocupación permanente de la Antártida
Argentina al inaugurarse la actual Base Orcadas.
También insistimos con la conmemoración del CENTENARIO (1904-2004) de este
acontecimiento histórico, lo que dio importantes resultados, porque hemos
dado nuestro aporte, para que no haya pasado esta fecha inadvertida para la
gente, ni para las autoridades a nivel nacional, provincial y comunal; lo
que esperamos que perdure en el tiempo y que "El hielo no debe congelar la
historia y la soberanía".
Esto lo hicimos, en virtud que en años anteriores para esa fecha muy pocos
lo recordaban y recibimos con inmensa satisfacción la respuesta de miles, sí
miles de personas que nos informaban la publicación del informe enviado y
las fotos suministradas, en distintos medios de difusión masiva, como ser
Internet, Revistas, Periódicos, Diarios, Radios, TV, retransmisión de mi
mensaje etc.
Lo que más nos conmovió fueron las palabras con espíritu patriótico con que
se dirigían y lo más significativo, era que muchas personas de distintos
niveles de conocimiento nos comentaban con sinceridad que lo desconocían y
muchos de los que la recordaban no sabían porque motivo se conmemora.
Después de pocos días de esa fecha memorable, enviamos un mensaje recordando
la primera comunicación radiotelegráfica desde la Antártida Argentina,
acontecimiento ocurrido el 27-mar-1927,ahora le enviamos este mensaje para
recordarles el aniversario de un hecho que es de suma importancia para
nuestro país, donde hombres y máquinas de la Fuerza Aérea tienen un
protagonismo en la defensa pacifica de la soberanía en esas tierras heladas
y el apoyo a las importantes investigaciones científicas, al igual que las
otras armas.
Recordemos que el 29-OCT-1969, con la fundación de la Base Marambio de la
Antártida Argentina, se culminó una epopeya de trascendencia Nacional,
Histórica y Geopolítica protagonizada por Argentinos, que viviendo en
pequeñas carpas, en una zona extremadamente inhóspita, contando solo con
picos, palas y trabajando con esfuerzo, garra y coraje, abrieron un surco de
tierra en el Desierto Blanco para permitir operar aviones de gran porte con
tren de aterrizaje convencional, es decir con ruedas.
Así fue como nuestros compatriotas, de la Dotación Antártica 1968/69,
integrantes de la Patrulla "Soberanía", llegaron a construir una pista de
900 metros de longitud, donde aterrizó procedente de Río Gallegos el avión
biturbohélice Fokker F-27, matrícula TC-77 en vuelo regular, rompiendo el
aislamiento que hasta entonces existía con el Sexto Continente,
convirtiéndose la Base Marambio en la "Puerta de entrada de la Antártida".
La Dotación Antártica 1969/70 de la nueva Base Marambio, continuó en
condiciones similares la dura tarea iniciada, construyendo las primeras
instalaciones y prolongando la pista, hasta alcanzar una longitud de 1200
metros, lo que permitió la iniciación de operaciones con aviones de gran
porte desde otro Continente.
El día 11 de abril de 1970, hace treinta y seis años, por primera vez
aterrizaba en un arriesgada operación en la precaria pista de tierra, el
avión de gran porte, un Hércules C-130, matrícula TC-61 de la Fuerza Aérea
Argentina y a partir de entonces en forma ininterrumpida con dichas
aeronaves se continúan cumpliendo estas importantes operaciones aéreas en
forma normal y cotidiana.
Esta información carecería de interés, si no se tendría en cuenta los
trabajos profesionales que se realizan para dar apoyo a esta operación aérea
y la capacidad profesional de las tripulaciones de este enorme avión básico
de transporte pesado de 40,41 m. de envergadura, 29,79m de longitud, 11,66
m. altura, con un peso vacío de 35.827 Kg. y máximo de decolaje de 70.310
Kg., que cuenta con cuatro motores Allison T56-A-15, de 4.508 shp, que
desarrolla una velocidad de 600 km/h y tiene un alcance por su autonomía de
7.600 Km. y traslada en sus vuelos antárticos aproximadamente 10.000 Kg. de
carga y pasajeros.
Al igual que el correo electrónico que remitimos el mes pasado, esta
información se las enviamos para que se difunda por todos los medios y la
población conozca estos hechos, para que nos llene de orgullo y sirva como
ejemplo para nuestros jóvenes y para los descreídos, porque con esfuerzo,
profesionalidad y sacrificio se pueden lograr metas que a veces parecen
imposibles de realizar.
Les pedimos que retransmitan este mensaje a todos sus amigos y a los medios
periodísticos y educativos y gubernamentales que conozcan, es por el bien de
nuestra Patria, porque para amar algo hay que conocerlo y si no se difunde
no se conoce.
Si desea el informe completo de este acontecimiento, con detalles de las
Dotaciones, Tripulaciones, más características del avión Hércules C-130 y
fotografías disponibles para poder copiarlas, lo pueden encontrar en la
página www.marambio.aq , www.fundacionmarambio.org, haciendo clic AQUI, o
pongase en contacto con nosotros.
Nuestros sinceros saludos y quedamos a su disposición.
Dr. Juan Carlos LUJAN
Suboficial Mayor (R) FAA (VGM-EDB)
Presidente Fundación Marambio
Entidad exenta sin fines de lucro
CUIT. 30-70951448-9
Paraná 6656 - CARAPACHAY - CP 1605
Buenos Aires - ARGENTINA
lujan@marambio.aq
www.marambio.aq
Teléfono 11 4766-3086
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IMPORTANTE : SI ESTE MENSAJE LE LLEGA CON SU TEXTO ILEGIBLE, ROGAMOS NOS
AVISE,
PARA REENVIARSELO EN OTRO FORMATO.
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TOPIC: Marco Polo the great Explorers.....
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/0f7a5dd55c2a53df
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 10:35 pm
From: "jameswatt"
Detail of Marco Polo
http://worldofbiography.com/9107%2DMarco%20Polo/impression.htm
Even if we take his book as a work of fiction, the quality of the
content was so good that he mesmerized readers through the centuries.
The book was compiled from more than 80 manuscript copies in various
languages and from different cultures of the world, which helped him in
mixing with people and understand their feelings. Using primitive modes
of travel like horses his travels were always at the mercy of fate. The
book was one of the most exhaustive studies on the Silk Road ever
written in a European Language www.worldofbiography.com
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