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Today's topics:
* Goodbye Europe - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/45e5b9700b1e9ac3
* Top UK Brass Plan for US Strike on Iran (for Israel, of course!) - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a51906633723f4cc
* Man charged with grabbing deputy's backside - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/233cbfb3216f584d
* HOMELAND SECURITY AGENT ARRESTED FOR SEDUCING 14-YR-OLD GIRL - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9334c1cbc0f97e
* An Interview with William Blum - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b248d57f419b650a
* What the Arsonist Trial has to do with the holocaust - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a8579cb8e6f943e2
* SECURING THE KIKE REALM - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8dd1ed5cdcb29a1b
* Veteran Cites U.S. Atrocities - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/accbb3c7290493c3
* Gogala's AMERIKA - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e5847649fda182f9
* BUSH TO BHARAT: FORGET PAKI TERRORISM - www.hinduvoice.net - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7d85535bc8a0a3dd
* CHRISTIAN CHURCH CASTRATED BOYS FOR CENTRURIES - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f67299cf67c56b1
* The New Protocols - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b4ee8675ec938f47
* CHRISTIAN PRIEST WHO RAPED BOYS CALLED A 'RISING STAR' IN THE PAST - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3e2f91a86e097e3a
* Jihad groups Re: MUSLIMS LOOTING PAPUAN RESOURCES - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9cfe72ef53be8650
* POLICE LOOKING FOR CHRISTIAN PRIEST ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ABUSE - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ae134140308dc889
* U.K. HINDUS BEST AT MONEY MATTERS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/60227a80906a01ec
* CHRISTIAN PRIEST RAPES 29-YR-OLD WOMAN, ARRESTED - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/963574ebe0287203
* Israel to get Nuked. : China,Soviets - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b403814c535468c9
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TOPIC: Goodbye Europe
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/45e5b9700b1e9ac3
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Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 4:35 am
From: "DoD"
"Tilly" <TillyGr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:coHYf.10911$JZ1.427161@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Daniel Bernard wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 07:25:22 GMT, "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > They are your words? Did you not say them? Do you think that Jews
>> > are Christ killers... Is that in vogue in Europe? Come on Daniel
>> > are you not into bringing Jews to the ovens, when us Americans
>> > actually care about Jews.... what is your opinion about Jews
>> > Daniel..... I like them... I can state that outright... can you?
>> >
>> I'm not going to spoon feed you answers, especially answers you should
>> have pieced together ages ago.
>>
>> As I told you cranks before, I only answer when it serves my purpose
>> to answer.
>
>
> Has marriage made you find religion?
It sure hasn't cured his Jew hatred which he has shown throughout the years
.Nope he isn't me Eddard though I agree with his post. It was typical filth
from a jewess, which just goes to back up what I posted before about filty
and females from your tribe.
soc.culture.israel Wed, Sep 3 2003 6:02 am
Well, I would rather they did that than marry one of your "tribe". I was
chatting to an estate agent friend of mine a few days ago and she told me
that letting a jew into a house could knock at least £30,000.00 off the
market value and up to £60,000.00 in a affluent area like where I live.
Before you scream about the products of genetic screwups, take a look at
that prime example of jewessness, Shirley Porter. Does it look like your
mum? I hope your old man had a huge supplies of paper bags when he bumped
uglies with her or was he just doing his religious duty? Oh wait, sorry he
was probably just as screwy looking. That would be why they produced a
missing link kid like you.
soc.culture.israel Wed, Sep 3 2003 10:21 am
Ah but my good Reverend, you must applaud the dog fucker for her honesty. I
mean, how often can you say that about a jew huh?
soc.culture.israel Thurs, Nov 13 2003 5:47 pm
However, you will find that a cricket bat or two snooker balls in a rugby
sock works wonders on those semitic features.
soc.culture.israel Fri, Nov 14 2003 8:42 am
If you take the tale as related in the Bible, the jews were given the choice
of who they would rather Pilate freed. They selected the thief and murderer
Barabas, which goes a long way to explaining the moral depravity some people
say is inherent in the jew/jewess.
Money talks and the American jew has been letting his money do the talking
for far too long.
soc.culture.israel Fri, Jun 13 2003 6:56 am
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TOPIC: Top UK Brass Plan for US Strike on Iran (for Israel, of course!)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a51906633723f4cc
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:35 am
From: "fireforge126" <123456@freeserve.co.uk>
This is normal Top brass plan many things just in case.
<TELLUSTHETRUTHCINDY@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144183042.719972.225040@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Top UK Brass Plan for US Strike on Iran (for Israel, of course!)
>
> http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=50614
>
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TOPIC: Man charged with grabbing deputy's backside
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/233cbfb3216f584d
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Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 12:37 am
From:
They shouldn't be making a big deal out of this; if anything, the jogger
should take it as a compliment. In Italy, this a common practice that is
usually greeted with a smile. It's not as if he touched her breasts or
genital area. An apology should suffice.
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=28110
Tampa, Florida - A man is facing charges after he reached his hand out of a
car and grabbed a female jogger -- who happens to be a Hillsborough County
Sheriff's deputy.
Authorities say 19-year-old David Vanfossen of Tampa was driving his
mother's car Saturday morning when he grabbed the woman's buttocks.
The car sped away, but the woman was able to look at the license plate.
Deputies went to Vanfossen's home where they found the car.
He's charged with lewd and lascivious behavior, reckless driving, culpable
negligence and misdemeanor battery.
--
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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TOPIC: HOMELAND SECURITY AGENT ARRESTED FOR SEDUCING 14-YR-OLD GIRL
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9334c1cbc0f97e
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Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 4:37 am
From: usenet@mantra.comB774 and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Homeland Agent Arrested in Seduction Case
By Michelle Spitzer, Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Tuesday, April 4, 2006
Miami - The deputy press secretary for the U.S.
Department of Homeland Security was arrested Tuesday for
using the Internet to seduce what he thought was a
teenage girl, authorities said.
Brian J. Doyle, 55, was arrested at his residence in
Maryland on charges of use of a computer to seduce a
child and transmission of harmful material to a minor.
The charges were issued out of Polk County, Fla.
Doyle, of Silver Spring, Md., had a sexually explicit
conversation with what he believed was a 14-year-old girl
whose profile he saw on the Internet on March 14, the
Polk County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.
The girl was an undercover Polk County Sheriff's Computer
Crimes detective, the sheriff's office said.
Doyle sent the girl pornographic movie clips and had
sexually explicit conversations via the Internet, the
statement said.
During other online conversations, Doyle revealed his
name, that he worked for the Homeland Security Department
and offered his office and government issued cell phone
numbers, the sheriff's office said.
Doyle also sent photos of himself to the girl, but
authorities said they were not sexually explicit.
On several occasions, Doyle instructed her to perform a
sexual act while thinking of him and described explicit
activities he wanted to have with her, investigators
said.
Doyle later had a telephone conversation with an
undercover deputy posing as the teenager and encouraged
her to purchase a web camera to send graphic images of
herself to him, the sheriff's office said.
He was booked into Maryland's Montgomery County jail
where he was waiting to be extradited to Florida, the
sheriff's office said.
There was no immediate response to messages left on
Doyle's government-issued cell phone and his e-mail, and
he could not be reached by phone at the jail for comment.
Homeland Security press secretary Russ Knocke in
Washington said he could not comment on the details of
the investigation. "We take these allegations very
seriously, and we will cooperate fully with the ongoing
investigation," Knocke said.
Doyle, who is the fourth-ranking official in the
department's public affairs office, was expected to be
placed on administrative leave Wednesday morning.
More at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060405/ap_on_re_us/press_secretary_arrested
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TOPIC: An Interview with William Blum
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b248d57f419b650a
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 2:35 pm
From: Daeron
David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
> CounterPunch - April 4, 2006
> http://www.counterpunch.org/corseri04042006.html
>
> Osama's Favorite Writer?
>
I think you and 'CounterPunch' have gotten mixed up and forgotten that
Osama's favorite writer and supporter is George W Bush who has spent five
years since Jan/2001 pushing for the US to resume funding & training of Al
Qaeda related terrorist organizations ;
it was GW who propelled the 9/11 criminal to world leader status and
provided a proving ground for Al Qaeda agents ;
it was GW who rewarded the CIA for keeping vital information to itself and
out of the hands of the Departments of Justice, State, and Defence who
would have used that information to prevent the 9/11 attacks ;
it is GW and his backers at Bechtel , Freeport McMoran , Newmont , Exxon ,
who have been doing the PR work for the world's most brutal colonial and
Islamic power.
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Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:06 am
From: "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
"Daeron" <daeron@optushome.com.au> wrote in message news:1203935.EGqOrGXZ5z@minds.org...
> David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
> > CounterPunch - April 4, 2006
> > http://www.counterpunch.org/corseri04042006.html
> >
> > Osama's Favorite Writer?
> >
>
> I think you and 'CounterPunch' have gotten mixed up and forgotten that
> Osama's favorite writer and supporter is George W Bush who has spent five
> years since Jan/2001 pushing for the US to resume funding & training of Al
> Qaeda related terrorist organizations ;
> it was GW who propelled the 9/11 criminal to world leader status and
> provided a proving ground for Al Qaeda agents ;
> it was GW who rewarded the CIA for keeping vital information to itself and
> out of the hands of the Departments of Justice, State, and Defence who
> would have used that information to prevent the 9/11 attacks ;
> it is GW and his backers at Bechtel , Freeport McMoran , Newmont , Exxon ,
> who have been doing the PR work for the world's most brutal colonial and
> Islamic power.
I agree. Would you like to get sick? Have a look at this web site designed
for young students which is coming up on Google as I search for more 911
information... http://www.worldslastchance.com The propaganda machine
is running full steam ahead.
The Only Hope For the World
By Doug Soderstrom, Ph.D.
04/01/06 "ICH" -- -- The world has gotten itself into a real jam.
I mean a humdinger of a jam! As in John Paul Sartre's existential
drama, No Exit, which so nicely portrays the inescapability of
self-chosen evil, the inevitability of a self-made Hell, there seems
to be no way out for the world; no way for the inhabitants of planet
Earth to escape what appears to be the inevitability of a hell of its
own making... World War III!
Of course, as I tell my students.. the history of the world is the
history of war, as armed conflict seems to have been a constant
companion. From the beginning of time, it appears that we have
"been at each other's throats." However, since that fateful day in
1945 when "Little Boy" gave us a glimpse of what was to come,
things have never quite been the same. Before Hiroshima, the
world was able to deal with man's inhumanity to man, but with
the advent of modern nuclear (or in the words of George Walker
Bush. "nucular") warfare, things have gone from bad to worse.
No longer can we afford to dabble with our weapons of mass
destruction. One more mistake, one more miscalculation, and
the world will go up in flames!
George Walker Bush, the leader of the so-called free world,
seems to have forced the world into an existential corner, one
which leaves others with little choice but to roll over and "play
dead" or else retaliate. Something like grabbing the world by
its proverbial balls, and then slowly squeezing until it decides
to either give up or fight back. It is this man, the one who touts
"freedom and democracy for all," who has decreed that the
world must play by his rules, and, for those who do not,
well.. they will simply have to die. And, of course, that's the
reason for the administration's formulated policy of pre-emptive
war; to encourage the world to do exactly as it is told. There
can be no doubt that the United States has become the
biggest bully on the block, a true terrorist, the likes of which
the world has never seen, an accomplishment for which our
president seems to be extremely proud.
But given the Middle East's movement toward democracy,
a deliberate denunciation of secular rule, a certain decision
to root itself in the faith of its own people, the Islamic world
has made it clear that it will no longer cow tow to George
Bush. Similarly, the Western world seems to be moving
back to its own roots. As can be seen in recent elections
(Germany, Canada, and, of course, the United States),
much of the western hemisphere (although not Venezuela
or Cuba) seems to be increasingly aligning itself with the
values of a post modern world, those that extol the virtues
of capitalism, civil religion, sensuality, conspicuous
consumption, and military dominance. No doubt a true
clash of cultures, a war of wills, a cockfight with but one
thing in mind; the absolute destruction of all who stand
in the way!
With such contention, I see only one way out; a metamorphic
leap of faith, an about face in the way we think, a decision to
let go of everything that we, as a nation, once held dear, an
understanding that the world will surely end unless we
recognize the fact that we have no choice but to embrace
our enemy as our brother, the one, without whom, we will
never find peace, a brother-in-arms, enchained from head
to toe, with whom we will either drown, or, together, might
be allowed to live for yet another day.
The world has been taught that survival is king; that a people
must do what they believe to be in their own best interests,
what they believe is necessary in order to survive, with little,
or no, regard for its effect upon others (as in the collateral
damage, the death, of as many as 100,000 Iraqi citizens
during the most recent war in Iraq). However, such an
approach can no longer be considered an acceptable way
of life in a world in which the life of one is so inseparably
tied to that of another, a world in which the annihilation of
one may well lead to the death of the other. Thus the need
for a metamorphic leap of faith, a divinity founded upon
that which we all have in common, our humanity, a
presumption that each and everyone of us, as human
beings, are sacred, a recognition that killing others, even
those of the enemy, represents a failure of the human
spirit, a miscalculation, a profound misunderstanding of
why we have been "placed upon" the earth, an inability to
understand that for the world to survive we must consider
what is best for the entire human family, otherwise we
will all perish.
When you get down to it, nations are not that much different
from individuals. We all seemingly want what we want and
to hell with everyone else. But the time for change has come.
It has been said that we, as modern folks (as opposed to
so-called primitives, aboriginals who have no need for nuclear
bombs nor delight in the destruction of their environment), are
civilized. That due to our advancement, the fact of how we
have seemingly progressed, how we have become such an
educated lot, we have become known as those of the
so-called civilized world. However, if civilization means
anything at all, it means to be civil, to be courteous, to be
thoughtful and kind. It implies a willful concern for the needs
of others. Essentially, the capacity to extend our will so that
it might include that of others, a propitious incorporation of
their need into that of our own, a conscious decision to ensure
that the survival of one becomes the survival of the other, a
transformation in the way we think, a sincere desire for peace,
a state of harmony in which each works for the betterment of
others.
Perhaps Jesus, as well as Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha),
said it best when each proclaimed that we "should not do unto
others that which we would not have them do unto us." Put
another way, if we want to learn how to get along with others,
it is absolutely essential that we be willing to place ourselves
into that of our brother's shoes. That we ask ourselves how
we might feel if our adversary were about to do to us that
which we have been planning to do to him. And, of course,
if having come to the conclusion that such a thing would be
inappropriate, then, as a moral fellow (a moral nation that is),
it would behoove us to act appropriately in regards to our
brother (that of the other nation).
Alas, such is not the way of the world. Rather, it seems that
according to our country's foreign policy- the way we have,
in fact, chosen to deal with other nations of the world- we
have been inclined to put ourselves first, to look at things
from our own rather petty, no doubt provincial, and nearly
always biased, point of view. Without exception, we have
demonized our enemies, in the past Germany and Japan,
most recently in Iraq, and now, of course, in regards to Iran,
Syria, North Korea, and Venezuela, choosing to focus on
their shortcomings, all in order to make it easier to kill them.
if that is what our government decides to do. Conversely,
there has been a perennial attempt to escape the fact of
our own transgressions, a history of entangled complicity
in that of other countries (60 years of Machiavellian
manipulation in the Middle East), the overthrow of
constitutional democracies, and egregious alignments
with foreign dictators. Not to mention the rather arrogant
presumption, on the part of so many in our nation, that the
United States, having received the a priori blessing of God,
has been assigned the divine responsibility of dictating to
the rest of the world how it should be governed.
Clearly, such a world view is a recipe for disaster, a way
of behaving that will lead to all that we most fear, our worst
nightmare come true, an Armageddon of fire and doom,
Dante's inferno having come to life... the natural end of a
world having gone mad with power, greed, and ambition.
So, the next time you have a chance, listen to George Bush.
Listen to Dick Cheney. Listen to Donald Rumsfeld. Listen to
what they have to say, and how they say it. Look at how they
position their bodies... so straight and tall. Pugnacious profiles.
Self-righteous men, hardened to the core, and, no doubt,
pious to a tee. Take a look at their faces; the smugness of
their smile. And then.. never forget that power corrupts, and
that absolute power corrupts absolutely, and that pride,
without fail, always cometh before the fall!
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TOPIC: What the Arsonist Trial has to do with the holocaust
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a8579cb8e6f943e2
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 4:40 am
From: "Mexican Bandolero"
"NefeshBarYochai" <tachnan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144195240.433939.240470@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> You Jafar are a stupid son of a bitch. You mohter is a bitch and your
> father is a dog. In fact he is a dirty dog.
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He is a dog too. A Dirty Sick Dog, soon to be thrown into the incinerator
built by the Mexicans!
MB
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 4:43 am
From: "Mexican Bandolero"
"Salah Jafar" <codeman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c0GYf.6226$Py4.3188@trnddc06...
When there is no defense, they focus on filth and profanity.
SJ
Bow wow wow?
Talking about yourself.
Good doggie!
You did a good confession!
MB
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TOPIC: SECURING THE KIKE REALM
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8dd1ed5cdcb29a1b
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 4 2006 9:43 pm
From: "Israel Blumstein"
Steffi Green <green1583@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> Miriam Cohen wrote:
> > On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:37:21 GMT, "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > <Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1143869292.870240.104240@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > > >
> > > > DoD wrote:
> > > > > "Calife" <user@user.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:442c03d5$0$18327$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> > > > > > BernardZ wrote:
> > > > > > > In article <MsRWf.15204$g6.11008@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
> > > > > > > serwad@bellsouth.net says...
> > > > > > > > Look at Palestine. Horror/chaos destabilizes people and it
> > > > > > > > takes generations to restabilize and build back a
> > > > > > > > civilization.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually this is a true statement. When Israel ruled the
> > > > > > > region it was
> > > > > > > claim and one of the fastest growing economy in the world.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now look at what replaced it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.gamla.org.il/english/feature/lynch2a.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As a Muslim don't you feel ashamed Alex at what has been
> > > > > > > created.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're right of course!
> > > > > > US built cluster bombs and assorted hi-tech weaponry used by
> > > > > > Israel are far more efficient and way more discrete in
> > > > > > extermination than the knives and other "weapons" allowed the
> > > > > > Palestinians.
> > > > > > Israeli quality killings performed far from the "free press",
> > > > > > and thereby affording BernardZ the comfort of guiltless eye
> > > > > > aversion, are a fine example of Israeli talents at turning
> > > > > > the victim into perpetrator, and vice-versa!
> > > > > > Bravo!
> > > > >
> > > > > You must of left the USA because we got over our Jew hatred
> > > >
> > > > When was that?
> > >
> > > In the 40's and 50's you dumb fuckin wannabe American.... When the
> > > fuck are you gonna head back to Europe and quit fucking our soil
> > > up? Don't stop in Britain... Ariadne is a true British woman....
> > > you would do better to go to France or Germany, stewpid fucking
> > > racist bitch....
> >
> > Excuuuuuuuuuuse me. Araidne is not a true British woman. She is a
> > true semite, i.e. a jew!
>
> One can be a Jew and British and value being both.
Not really, twatty. Jews have failed to assimilate in Britain. Not
only do they look different from the natives, but they have this
age-old problem of divided loyalties.
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Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 4:52 am
From: "DoD"
"Tilly" <TillyGr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Y8HYf.10903$JZ1.427331@news.xtra.co.nz...
> serwad wrote:
>> "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
>> news:lkoXf.30490$iR1.6504@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> >
>> > <Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1143869292.870240.104240@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> > >
>> > > DoD wrote:
>> > > > "Calife" <user@user.net> wrote in message
>> > > > news:442c03d5$0$18327$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> > > > > BernardZ wrote:
>> > > > > > In article <MsRWf.15204$g6.11008@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
>> > > > > > serwad@bellsouth.net says...
>> > > > > > > Look at Palestine. Horror/chaos destabilizes people and it
>> > > > > > > takes generations to restabilize and build back a
>> > > > > > > civilization.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Actually this is a true statement. When Israel ruled the
>> > > > > > region it was
>> > > > > > claim and one of the fastest growing economy in the world.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Now look at what replaced it.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > http://www.gamla.org.il/english/feature/lynch2a.htm
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > As a Muslim don't you feel ashamed Alex at what has been
>> > > > > > created.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You're right of course!
>> > > > > US built cluster bombs and assorted hi-tech weaponry used by
>> > > > > Israel are
>> > > > > far more efficient and way more discrete in extermination
>> > > > > than the knives and other "weapons" allowed the Palestinians.
>> > > > > Israeli quality killings performed far from the "free press",
>> > > > > and thereby affording BernardZ the comfort of guiltless eye
>> > > > > aversion, are a
>> > > > > fine example of Israeli talents at turning the victim into
>> > > > > perpetrator,
>> > > > > and vice-versa!
>> > > > > Bravo!
>> > > >
>> > > > You must of left the USA because we got over our Jew hatred
>> > >
>> > > When was that?
>> >
>> > In the 40's and 50's you dumb fuckin wannabe American....
>> YOU, AMERICAN? YOU ARE A FUCKING KIKE!
>
>
> LOL....
>
> We have a Serbian-Croat war on our midst!
Hardly
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:08 pm
From: "Tilly"
Israel Blumstein wrote:
> Steffi Green <green1583@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > Miriam Cohen wrote:
> > > On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:37:21 GMT, "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > <Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1143869292.870240.104240@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > DoD wrote:
> > > > > > "Calife" <user@user.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:442c03d5$0$18327$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> > > > > > > BernardZ wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > <MsRWf.15204$g6.11008@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
> > > > > > > > serwad@bellsouth.net says...
> > > > > > > > > Look at Palestine. Horror/chaos destabilizes people
> > > > > > > > > and it takes generations to restabilize and build
> > > > > > > > > back a civilization.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Actually this is a true statement. When Israel ruled the
> > > > > > > > region it was
> > > > > > > > claim and one of the fastest growing economy in the
> > > > > > > > world.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now look at what replaced it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.gamla.org.il/english/feature/lynch2a.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As a Muslim don't you feel ashamed Alex at what has been
> > > > > > > > created.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You're right of course!
> > > > > > > US built cluster bombs and assorted hi-tech weaponry used
> > > > > > > by Israel are far more efficient and way more discrete in
> > > > > > > extermination than the knives and other "weapons" allowed
> > > > > > > the Palestinians.
> > > > > > > Israeli quality killings performed far from the "free
> > > > > > > press", and thereby affording BernardZ the comfort of
> > > > > > > guiltless eye aversion, are a fine example of Israeli
> > > > > > > talents at turning the victim into perpetrator, and
> > > > > > > vice-versa!
> > > > > > > Bravo!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You must of left the USA because we got over our Jew hatred
> > > > >
> > > > > When was that?
> > > >
> > > > In the 40's and 50's you dumb fuckin wannabe American.... When
> > > > the fuck are you gonna head back to Europe and quit fucking our
> > > > soil up? Don't stop in Britain... Ariadne is a true British
> > > > woman.... you would do better to go to France or Germany,
> > > > stewpid fucking racist bitch....
> > >
> > > Excuuuuuuuuuuse me. Araidne is not a true British woman. She is
> > > a true semite, i.e. a jew!
> >
> > One can be a Jew and British and value being both.
>
> Not really, twatty. Jews have failed to assimilate in Britain. Not
> only do they look different from the natives, but they have this
> age-old problem of divided loyalties.
The paranoid Rev'd.
Are you too scared to use your old nym Rev'd.
Scared of being chucked again?
--
TillyGr@hotmail.com
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:12 pm
From: "Tilly"
Emanuel Appel wrote:
> "NefeshBarYochai" <tachnan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144116371.563543.283140@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Well put Amen
>
>
> Dear Nefesh,
> I fear that the present Israeli leadership is not serious about
> protecting the people, are thinking that one can "negotiate" with
> Arabs as one could "negotiate" with Germans.
> A lot of peopole will die because of this
>
> emanuel appel
Have you lived in Israel? Just wondering.
--
TillyGr@hotmail.com
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 4 2006 10:23 pm
From: "Tilly"
Tilly wrote:
> Emanuel Appel wrote:
> > "NefeshBarYochai" <tachnan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1144116371.563543.283140@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > Well put Amen
> >
> >
> > Dear Nefesh,
> > I fear that the present Israeli leadership is not serious about
> > protecting the people, are thinking that one can "negotiate" with
> > Arabs as one could "negotiate" with Germans.
> > A lot of peopole will die because of this
> >
> > emanuel appel
>
> Have you lived in Israel? Just wondering.
Silly question, now I know who you are.
--
TillyGr@hotmail.com
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TOPIC: Veteran Cites U.S. Atrocities
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/accbb3c7290493c3
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:05 am
From: "\"The Right One\""
Of course he will tell them anything just to stay in Canada
--
Ahh, it's sooo nice to be
a Canadian these days.
Terry Pearson.
http://www.rightpoint.org
Helping to shape
Canada's destiny.
The Liberals are like toothless yorkies,
who will spend the next year, at least,
attempting to gum the the Tories to
death.
A good plan executed violently
today is better than a perfect plan
executed at some indefinite point
in the future.
- Gen. George S. Patton
It's called "war" and as the cliché goes,
it is not pretty. Nor is it a science, where,
if a formula is followed, the outcome is
assured. ~ Rondi Adamson,
Toronto Star, March 2006
God Keep Our Land
Glorious And Free.
"Ivan Gowch" <the_gowch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8oco22ll4u3e0hh93k4c2g7q33iloome25@4ax.com...
> Iraq war veteran seeking asylum in Canada tells refugee board of
> atrocities
>
>
> TORONTO (CP) - A "trigger-happy" U.S. army squad leader shot the foot
> off an unarmed Iraqi man and soldiers kicked a severed head around
> like a soccer ball, a U.S. war deserter told an immigration and
> refugee board Thursday.
>
> Joshua Key, the first U.S. deserter with combat experience in Iraq to
> apply for refugee status in Canada, told the board he witnessed
> numerous atrocities committed by U.S. forces while serving for eight
> months as a combat engineer.
>
> Key said he was never trained on the Geneva Conventions and was told
> in Iraq that the international law guiding humanitarian standards were
> "just guidelines."
>
> "It's shoot first, ask questions later," Key told the board, which is
> evaluating his bid for asylum in Canada for him, his wife and four
> young children.
>
> Key, 27, said he suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder and
> frequently has nightmares over what he witnessed in Iraq.
>
> That includes one incident in which he said he saw U.S. soldiers kick
> two hooded and naked detainees at a holding facility while escorting
> them to a grassy area to relieve themselves.
>
> Key told the hearing he joined the army for steady pay and medical
> coverage for his family and that he initially went to Iraq as a
> willing participant because he believed U.S. intelligence claims.
>
> But Key became disillusioned with the war during his service and
> decided to abandon his contract with the army during a two-week leave
> from Iraq in November 2003.
>
> He and his family lived on the run in Philadelphia before crossing the
> border at Niagara Falls, N.Y., on March 3, 2005.
>
> The Oklahoma native now works as a welder in Fort St. John, B.C.
>
> Key said the army deceived him when he was recruited and promised him
> in writing that he would not be sent overseas for combat because of
> the size of his family.
>
> He and his wife Brandi have four children between the ages of seven
> months and six years.
> ===
>
>
> "The pioneers of a warless world are the youth who
> refuse military service."
> -Albert Einstein
>
>
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TOPIC: Gogala's AMERIKA
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e5847649fda182f9
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 4 2006 10:13 pm
From: "bmarjanovich@iprimus.ca"
http://tinyurl.com/oceqx
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TOPIC: BUSH TO BHARAT: FORGET PAKI TERRORISM - www.hinduvoice.net
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7d85535bc8a0a3dd
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:19 am
From: usenet@mantra.comh74 and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
You are right about the Brits.
Western countries have used Muslim terrorists
as weapons in their (west's) arsenal in the past.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
In article <VUzYf.9342$9h5.2744@dukeread09>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> interesting viewpoint.
> in my view, if using the packie army to keep india on a short leash is
> indeed the american objective, then usa labors in vain. for one thing, the
> hindus do it themselves, so there is no need for it. second, there is
> nothing to be gained, but a lot to lose, in this silly policy.
> i can understand it if it was a british policy - the british love to watch
> people getting killed; so much so that their soldiers watch killing done by
> their allies instead of actually fighting alonside their allies when in war
> (is there a word for such psycho stuff?); but it simply can't be an
> american policy.
>
>
> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>
> > BUSH TO BHARAT: FORGET PAKI TERRORISM
> >
> > Forwarded message from
> http://www.hinduvoice.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi?flavor=archive&id=200604032208
> 11&list=tt
> >
> > Bush to India: forget paki terrorism
> >
> > [ From: CR S <laaksast@yahoo.com>
> > [ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006
> >
> > Ravi,
> >
> > I am not as optimistic as you are
> > on USA's symbolic overtures to
> > India. Why should Bush not come
> > down 100% on India's side regarding
> > terrorism? Why can't Bush tell Musa
> > that he must get rid all all
> > terrorists, including those in
> > Musa's basement being unleashed on
> > India. Why can't India be aaccored
> > the same status as other western
> > countries and Israel when it comes
> > to Isalmic terrorism? Now please
> > don't give me this simplistic
> > argument that Bush needs Musa to
> > catch Al Quiad louts, whatever or
> > wherever this group exists, and
> > thats why Bush is giving Musa all
> > kinds of goodies. This kind of
> > simplistic crap is for US media
> > consumption. Fact of the matter is
> > that USA needs Paki terrorists and
> > Paki army (both are the same) to be
> > in position to do its bidding, and
> > keep India on a tight leash, and
> > thats why Bush is loath to go hard
> > on Musa regarding terror against
> > India; take away Paki terror
> > against India, and Bush pretty much
> > has no leverage, practically none
> > on India, and by default the entire
> > region. Paki terror, its neurotic
> > hostility is being skilful used by
> > Bush to moderate India and bottle
> > up India in a regional framework.
> > And for the suave Paki elite
> > bastards, nothing else matters in
> > the world, they will even eat
> > grass, as long as they are seen to
> > be sticking it up Hindu asses. This
> > is equation: plain and simple. And
> > as long as USA turns a blind eye
> > and actively calibrates Paki
> > terrorism against India, India US
> > relations are no more than a pile
> > of beans.
> >
> > Cheers
> > CRS
> >
> > End of forwarded message from
> http://www.hinduvoice.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi?flavor=archive&id=200604032208
> 11&list=tt
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> >
> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > http://www.hindu.org
> > http://www.hindunet.org
> >
> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> >
> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> educational
> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
> not
> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
> > fair use of copyrighted works.
> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
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TOPIC: CHRISTIAN CHURCH CASTRATED BOYS FOR CENTRURIES
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f67299cf67c56b1
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:20 am
From: usenet@mantra.comj392f and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
The Christian pope <spit> must be tried for murder and tortue.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
In article <3LxYf.9330$9h5.836@dukeread09>,
"are we on same page?" <sayhello@hotmail.com> posted:
> the vatican 420 country should be tried at international court in haig.
>
>
> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>
> > Pope urged to apologise for Vatican castrations
> >
> > By Rory Carroll in Rome
> > The Guardian
> > Tuesday, August 14, 2001
> >
> > Revelations that the Vatican encouraged the castration of
> > choir boys in the name of art for hundreds of years have
> > prompted calls for a papal apology.
> >
> > Human rights groups, historians and Italian commentators
> > said the Pope, a singer himself, should ask forgiveness
> > for his predecessors' role in the mutilation of castrati
> > singers.
> >
> > New research suggests that the employment of castrati was
> > tolerated by the Vatican as late as 1959, long after
> > other states had banned it as barbaric.
> >
> > -From the 16th century onwards generations of Italian
> > boys were castrated in the hope that their voices,
> > prevented from breaking, would combine a child's high
> > register with the vocal power of a man.
> >
> > Their ability to sing beyond normal human limits
> > enraptured opera-goers, emperors and popes, who
> > commissioned a choir of castrati to perform in the
> > Sistine chapel. An edict by St Paul prevented women
> > singing in church.
> >
> > Successful castrati such as Farinelli - the subject of
> > Gérard Corbiau's 1994 film - became Europe-wide
> > superstars, feted by composers such as Handel, but most
> > failed to make the grade and were cast aside, devastated
> > and useless even as circus freaks.
> >
> > According to Angels Against their Will, a new book by the
> > German historian Hubert Ortkemper, the castrato
> > Alessandro Moreschi performed in the Sistine chapel until
> > 1913. Other historians suspect that Domenico Mancini,
> > another private pontifical singer who performed from 1939
> > to 1959, was a castrato, too.
> >
> > Officially the Vatican always condemned the practice,
> > which is thought to have started around 1500, and
> > punished castrators with excommunication. In 1902 it
> > issued a decree banning castrati from the Sistine chapel.
> >
> > But such was the beauty and power of their singing that
> > successive popes sponsored the phenomenon by employing
> > them on the pretext that they were accidentally
> > castrated, for example by falling from a horse or by an
> > animal bite.
> >
> > Italy's leading newspaper, Corriere della Sera, said the
> > Pope, whose CD recordings have sold millions, should
> > follow up his admission of church wrongs against Jews,
> > Muslims and scientists by expressing sorrow for the
> > castrati.
> >
> > "Despite the willingness to address just about any issue,
> > the current pope has yet to confront an unresolved
> > problem of musical history. Why doesn't he suggest
> > prayers and remorse for the church's past connivance with
> > the practice of castrating males?"
> >
> > Human rights activists and academics endorsed the call.
> > Amnesty International said the value of recognising past
> > wrongs in an apology should not be underestimated.
> >
> > "Many of those afflicted by ongoing human rights abuses -
> > including genital mutilations of women and rape as
> > torture - desperately desire official recognition of the
> > terrible wrongs done to them. An apology from those
> > involved may be the hardest thing of all to achieve, and
> > the most valued."
> >
> > Nicholas Davidson, an Oxford University expert on papal
> > history, said: "If the Pope was going to be consistent,
> > and if there was evidence that church officials operated
> > in an improper way, then an apology should be made."
> >
> > The promise of a lucrative career persuaded many poor
> > Italian parents to castrate sons with musical talent,
> > despite the fact that the operation often produced
> > gigantism and obese bottoms and legs.
> >
> > No records were kept, but historians believe many
> > operations to remove testicles - achieved by slitting the
> > groin and severing the spermatic chord - were botched,
> > leaving boys in agony and in danger of infection. The
> > lucky ones survived and were good enough for years of
> > intensive training and cossetting at musical academies.
> >
> > Pope Sisto V, aware that the public craved the "voice of
> > angels", sanctioned their presence in the Vatican by a
> > papal bull in 1589.
> >
> > Audiences fainted and wept during performances and
> > groupies wore medallions of their favourites, but in the
> > 18th century the practice was gradually acknowledged to
> > be grotesque.
> >
> > More at:
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,536420,00.html
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> >
> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > http://www.hindu.org
> > http://www.hindunet.org
> >
> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> >
> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> > educational
> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
> > not
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> > fair use of copyrighted works.
> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
> > current
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> > are
> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the
> > article.
> >
> > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of
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TOPIC: The New Protocols
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b4ee8675ec938f47
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:20 pm
From: "Tilly"
serwad wrote:
> "Jim E" <YD653126@sea.edu> wrote in message
> news:49e9upFnpdunU1@individual.net...
> >
> > "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:jqlYf.36496$g6.23805@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
> > >
> > > "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
> > > news:l%kYf.40094$ty4.3638@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > >
> > > > "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:oRkYf.36480$g6.26886@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
> > > > > > Hey Moishe, do you really think you anyone falls for 'I am
> > > > > > a Jew' pretense?
> > > > > >
> > > > > As if it makes any diff to anyone who the fuck he is, so long
> > > > > as he tells the truth, not lies like you always blubber!
> > > >
> > > > I have never seen Tilly say Islam is the religion of peace.
> > >
> > > It matters not what either one of you say. Islam is a religion of
> > > peace. Islam has not started wars which killed many millions of
> > > people!
> > >
> US wars have killed at least ten million people in the past twenty
> years. Muslims have not attacked one single country in that time!
LOL.
Do you want a list?
911 to start with.
--
TillyGr@hotmail.com
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TOPIC: CHRISTIAN PRIEST WHO RAPED BOYS CALLED A 'RISING STAR' IN THE PAST
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3e2f91a86e097e3a
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:22 am
From: usenet@mantra.comc74g and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Yes, only a little.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
In article <FIxYf.9329$9h5.1000@dukeread09>,
"are we on same page?" <sayhello@hotmail.com> posted:
> un has been a little better since the chinese - the only smart people who
> really understand kirastanism - joined; only a little, however.
>
>
> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>
> > Isn't the UN run by Christians for all practical purposes?
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <6bcYf.9083$9h5.6882@dukeread09>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >> not his fault, kirastanism eventually catche up with the best of the
> >> people.
> >> united nations needs to clearly take time off from other inflictions and
> >> study kirastanism to declare it unhealthy "thing" that can and does bring
> >> humanity down.
> >>
> >>
> >> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
> >>
> >> > TRIBUNE PROFILE: REV DANIEL MCCORMACK
> >> >
> >> > Accused priest was rising star
> >> >
> >> > His riveting style of preaching earned him respect, until
> >> > allegations of abuse caught up with him
> >> >
> >> > By Margaret Ramirez and Russell Working
> >> > Tribune staff reporters
> >> > The Chicago Tribune
> >> > Sunday, April 2, 2006
> >> >
> >> > Called to the priesthood as an Irish-Catholic boy, Rev.
> >> > Daniel McCormack followed a path that led him into the
> >> > heart of the African-American community. He learned to
> >> > preach as few Roman Catholic priests could, firing up the
> >> > faithful in the rolling cadences of a black Baptist
> >> > clergyman.
> >> >
> >> > He called on his flock to love God as passionately as a
> >> > South Sider loves the White Sox. But away from the
> >> > pulpit, he was an introvert, often perceived as painfully
> >> > shy, even uncomfortable, in conversation.
> >> >
> >> > To many, he was a devoted white priest who ministered to
> >> > suffering neighborhoods and was moved by the passion of
> >> > African-American culture. As pastor of St. Agatha in
> >> > Chicago for six years, he was forceful in his
> >> > denunciations of violence and prayerful in his late-night
> >> > visits to the emergency room to comfort victims of
> >> > gunfire.
> >> >
> >> > Yet he now stands accused of betraying the trust he had
> >> > earned, by sexually abusing three boys at his parish.
> >> >
> >> > Since his fall from grace, other allegations have
> >> > surfaced suggesting that throughout McCormack's priestly
> >> > journey--even as far back as his years in seminary--there
> >> > was a disturbing side to the promising young preacher.
> >> >
> >> > McCormack has pleaded not guilty to all charges. His
> >> > large family, including his parents and eight siblings,
> >> > declined to speak to the Tribune, and his attorney,
> >> > Patrick Reardon, did not return repeated phone calls.
> >> >
> >> > But through interviews with former classmates, co-workers
> >> > and parishioners, as well as archdiocese reports and the
> >> > words of McCormack himself in a 2002 interview, a
> >> > portrait emerges of the priest standing at the center of
> >> > a tragic scandal.
> >> >
> >> > McCormack's charisma was obvious even in his first parish
> >> > assignment: St. Ailbe, in the Calumet Heights
> >> > neighborhood. There, they still remember the masses he
> >> > would celebrate each Thursday for schoolchildren.
> >> >
> >> > "He was marvelous," said Sister Kathryn Hartnett, the
> >> > parish's director of development. "It was absolutely
> >> > incredible to watch. He knew how to get their attention,
> >> > and he could really speak to them."
> >> >
> >> > Hartnett remembers one Halloween sermon during which
> >> > McCormack spoke while carving a pumpkin at the altar.
> >> >
> >> > "All the time he was giving his sermon, he was carving
> >> > into it, and the kids just couldn't believe it," she
> >> > said. "His message was that we have to give something of
> >> > ourselves, in order for the light of God to shine through
> >> > to others."
> >> >
> >> > McCormack finished by holding up the carved pumpkin so
> >> > the children could see the light beaming through.
> >> >
> >> > Like others close to McCormack, Hartnett said she finds
> >> > the sexual abuse allegations difficult to believe.
> >> >
> >> > "This just doesn't seem like his nature," she said.
> >> > "There's a saying by Maya Angelou that says, 'People will
> >> > forget what you said, people will forget what you did,
> >> > but people will never forget how you made them feel.'
> >> >
> >> > "Well, I always think of that when I think of Father Dan.
> >> > Because, the people--they just loved him."
> >> >
> >> > A childhood built on faith
> >> >
> >> > McCormack was born Oct. 28, 1968, the fifth of Hugh and
> >> > Marie McCormack's nine children. He was raised in the
> >> > West Lawn neighborhood southeast of Midway Airport; it
> >> > was a thriving community of brick bungalows housing Irish
> >> > and Polish immigrants.
> >> >
> >> > The family worshiped at St. Mary Star of the Sea and sent
> >> > their children to the parish school, which had nearly
> >> > 1,200 pupils.
> >> >
> >> > Hartnett was then principal of that school. Although the
> >> > nun says she does not remember McCormack from his
> >> > childhood, she would cross paths with him again in the
> >> > 1990s while ministering at St. Ailbe.
> >> >
> >> > Members of McCormack's childhood parish were fairly
> >> > conservative and dedicated to their church, she said.
> >> >
> >> > "People really loved St. Mary's," Hartnett said. "It was
> >> > their church, and they did everything for her. The school
> >> > was bursting. Every time we had a fire drill, it was like
> >> > a Notre Dame football game."
> >> >
> >> > It was in childhood, McCormack later said, that he heard
> >> > the calling to become a priest.
> >> >
> >> > "Priesthood, or for that matter any vocation, is not a
> >> > decision but an answer," he said in the 2002 interview,
> >> > posted on the Black Catholic Chicago Web site. "It takes
> >> > years of prayer, development, and formation to learn what
> >> > our Creator God calls us to in life. Therefore, I believe
> >> > I was called at the earliest of ages and then I struggled
> >> > with how to answer."
> >> >
> >> > After graduating from St. Mary in 1982, McCormack
> >> > attended Archbishop Quigley Preparatory Seminary South
> >> > and then majored in American and African-American history
> >> > at Niles College. McCormack was athletic and had a
> >> > passion for sports, especially the White Sox and the
> >> > Notre Dame teams, said fellow student Rothwell Floyd.
> >> >
> >> > Like McCormack, Floyd graduated from Quigley in the class
> >> > of 1986. The two were not close in high school, but at
> >> > Niles--where they were in a class of about 35--they lived
> >> > a few doors apart in the dorm and tended to hang out
> >> > together. In Floyd's eyes, McCormack seemed destined for
> >> > the priesthood.
> >> >
> >> > "He was never involved in the wild reckless stuff," said
> >> > Floyd, 37, who lives in Evergreen Park. "He studied. He
> >> > was one of the people you could just sit down and talk
> >> > to."
> >> >
> >> > McCormack was at ease hanging out with African-American
> >> > students, including Floyd. During college, the classmates
> >> > would celebrate both St. Patrick's Day and Black History
> >> > Month.
> >> >
> >> > "I don't think he saw color," Floyd said. "With all of
> >> > us, we didn't see color. We didn't see boundaries."
> >> >
> >> > After Niles, McCormack enrolled at the University of St.
> >> > Mary of the Lake Seminary in Mundelein, where his
> >> > interest in African-American liturgy began to shape his
> >> > style as a preacher.
> >> >
> >> > "Through my many experiences in the seminary I just
> >> > happened to fall in love with and be nourished by the
> >> > unique experience of hospitality, music, preaching and
> >> > the vibrant faith of the black community," McCormack
> >> > later said.
> >> >
> >> > But even as his devotion to the church deepened, signs of
> >> > trouble emerged. Last month, an archdiocese audit found
> >> > Mundelein seminary officials had learned in 1992 of three
> >> > separate allegations of sexual misconduct by McCormack
> >> > during his time at Niles College and St. Mary of the
> >> > Lake.
> >> >
> >> > No records of the allegations were found in his files,
> >> > but one incident reportedly involved a minor. The others
> >> > involved adult males. McCormack was also counseled for
> >> > alcohol abuse at the seminary, officials said.
> >> >
> >> > Two years later, in 1994, McCormack was ordained.
> >> >
> >> > A gifted church leader
> >> >
> >> > As associate pastor at St. Ailbe, McCormack exuded
> >> > youthful excitement in leading a church and being a
> >> > priest, said Hartnett.
> >> >
> >> > "We had these walkathons to raise money for the church,
> >> > and he would be the first one out there, running all
> >> > through the neighborhood with the kids," she said. "Most
> >> > of the kids never knew a priest like that."
> >> >
> >> > After three years, McCormack in 1997 was offered a
> >> > faculty position at St. Joseph College Seminary at Loyola
> >> > University. The school, formerly Niles College, had moved
> >> > to a smaller campus and changed names in 1994.
> >> >
> >> > Rev. James Presta, rector of St. Joseph, said McCormack
> >> > held several jobs there, including history instructor,
> >> > dean of students and dean of discipline. He devoured
> >> > books, and the floor of his room--littered with big
> >> > history tomes and tattered copies of Sports Illustrated--
> >> > told of his favorite topics.
> >> >
> >> > Presta said McCormack played a crucial role in improving
> >> > seminary admissions. "He created an admissions process
> >> > that screened out candidates who weren't serious about
> >> > faith life or their vocations," he said.
> >> >
> >> > Even as an administrator, Presta said, McCormack's love
> >> > for African-American liturgy continued to grow.
> >> >
> >> > "He grew up in an all-white parish, but he felt that he
> >> > prayed better in African-American style," Presta said.
> >> > "He said he felt more comfortable. He was able to express
> >> > himself through their music, through the way their
> >> > liturgy would unfold."
> >> >
> >> > James Long, a former student of McCormack at St. Joseph,
> >> > admired him for being approachable and unpretentious.
> >> >
> >> > "He was the type of priest that I would always want to
> >> > be, because of his devotion not only to the priesthood,
> >> > but his devotion to his people," said Long, who lives in
> >> > Louisville. "There's not a whole lot of people busting
> >> > down the doors to minister to the African-American
> >> > community. He embraced it."
> >> >
> >> > During this same time, McCormack was sacramental minister
> >> > at Holy Family, on the Near West Side.
> >> >
> >> > There, in October 1999, a 4th grader who was interested
> >> > in being an altar boy reported to the school principal
> >> > that McCormack had asked him to pull down his pants so he
> >> > could be measured.
> >> >
> >> > When the principal confronted McCormack about the
> >> > incident, he told her he had "used poor judgement," she
> >> > said. The boy's mother ultimately asked that the matter
> >> > not be pursued.
> >> >
> >> > 'I was proud of him'
> >> >
> >> > By the time Father Dan got to St. Agatha in 2000, he had
> >> > perfected his preaching skills.
> >> >
> >> > Julia Bledsoe, a member of the parish council, admits she
> >> > had disagreements with McCormack and became one of his
> >> > harshest critics after the abuse allegations came out.
> >> > Still, she praised the way he spoke in church.
> >> >
> >> > "He was so enthralling, it was just magical," Bledsoe
> >> > said. "Ooo, I was proud of him. There are not many
> >> > pastors in this town who can outpreach McCormack."
> >> >
> >> > Despite his commanding presence at the pulpit, members of
> >> > the Lawndale parish agreed that McCormack was often
> >> > uncomfortable one-on-one.
> >> >
> >> > "He wasn't a people person," said longtime parishioner
> >> > Loris Bullock. "But if you asked him to do something, he
> >> > would do it.... He cared for us, and he did it in a way
> >> > that I respected. He did things but didn't have to tell
> >> > the world he was doing it."
> >> >
> >> > McCormack also taught algebra and coached basketball at
> >> > Our Lady of the Westside School.
> >> >
> >> > He enjoyed attending the church's monthly community
> >> > dinners, where the needy were treated to free meals and
> >> > warm conversation. After a family experienced a death, he
> >> > always ensured the church could provide a funeral and
> >> > proper burial. One church member who works at a nearby
> >> > hospital said she was unsure if the priest ever slept,
> >> > because he spent so many nights there comforting people
> >> > who had been shot.
> >> >
> >> > Joseph Henderson credits McCormack with saving his
> >> > marriage when he had all but decided to walk out on his
> >> > wife and eight children.
> >> >
> >> > "He toughened me in the spiritual sense," Henderson said.
> >> > "He said, 'You just got to take your time and pray on
> >> > it.' The way he did it, I felt the energy. That had never
> >> > happened to me before."
> >> >
> >> > Yet even as McCormack consoled families in his church,
> >> > accusations emerged that he had betrayed them.
> >> >
> >> > In August, a mother reported that McCormack had molested
> >> > her 8-year-old son twice when he was alone with the
> >> > priest after mass, once on Dec. 1, 2003, and again on
> >> > that Christmas Eve.
> >> >
> >> > McCormack was arrested and detained on Aug. 30, a day
> >> > after Cardinal Francis George had approved his promotion
> >> > to head a West Side deanery, with some leadership
> >> > responsibilities for 20 parishes. He was not charged with
> >> > a crime; police said there was not sufficient evidence.
> >> >
> >> > Hearing of the allegation, archdiocese officials told
> >> > McCormack he was not to be alone with children and
> >> > designated another priest to monitor him. Days later,
> >> > when the monitor went out of town on Labor Day weekend,
> >> > McCormack took three boys to Minnesota on a shopping
> >> > trip.
> >> >
> >> > When the monitor left again briefly over Christmas,
> >> > McCormack allegedly abused another boy.
> >> >
> >> > Accusations catch up with him
> >> >
> >> > On his last Sunday in church, McCormack continued to
> >> > exhort parishioners to remember their spiritual heritage
> >> > as African-Americans. It was Jan. 15, the day before the
> >> > Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.
> >> >
> >> > In that Sunday's bulletin, McCormack urged his elders to
> >> > visit schools with children and reflect on the day's
> >> > meaning.
> >> >
> >> > "You lived through the time of Dr. King," he wrote. "You
> >> > heard his words. Many of you took an active role in the
> >> > Civil Rights Movement. Tell your stories. Share your
> >> > experiences and your emotions. Allow that time in our
> >> > history to come alive for our young people."
> >> >
> >> > The next Saturday, Father Dan was arrested and charged.
> >> > Prosecutors said the priest had abused a boy on the
> >> > basketball team two or three times a month for nearly
> >> > three years. He is awaiting trial.
> >> >
> >> > More at:
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0604020314apr02,1,807067.s
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> >> >
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> >> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> >> > Om Shanti
> >> >
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TOPIC: Jihad groups Re: MUSLIMS LOOTING PAPUAN RESOURCES
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9cfe72ef53be8650
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:25 am
From: usenet@mantra.comA723 and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Facts about terrorist Islam and Muslims:
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
In article <1194933.B0ILfM2ghN@minds.org>,
Daeron <daeron@optushome.com.au> posted:
> The groups include Laskar Jihad, Jemaah Islamiah,
> and the Barisan Merah Putih.
>
>
> It is a shame the few criminal US companies who are colonial looters of
> West Papua and other countries still under Javanese military occupation had
> the US Senate recently removed this entire Section which the US Congress
> majority had written and passed :
>
> SEC. 1115. DEVELOPMENTS IN AND POLICY TOWARD INDONESIA.
> (a) Statement of Congress Relating to Recent Developments, Human Rights,
> and Reform- Congress--
> (1) recognizes the remarkable progress in democratization and
> decentralization made by Indonesia in recent years and commends the people
> of Indonesia on the pace and scale of those continuing reforms;
> (2) reaffirms--
> (A) its deep condolences to the people of Indonesia for the profound losses
> inflicted by the December 26, 2004, earthquake and tsunami; and
> (B) its commitment to generous United States support for relief and long
> term reconstruction efforts in affected areas;
> (3) expresses its hope that in the aftermath of the tsunami tragedy the
> Government of Indonesia and other parties will succeed in reaching and
> implementing a peaceful, negotiated settlement of the long-standing
> conflict in Aceh;
> (4) commends the Government of Indonesia for allowing broad international
> access to Aceh after the December 2004 tsunami, and urges that
> international nongovernmental organizations and media be allowed unfettered
> access throughout Indonesia, including in Papua and Aceh;
>
> (5) notes with grave concern that--
> (A) reform of the Indonesian security forces has not kept pace with
> democratic political reform, and that the Indonesian military is subject to
> inadequate civilian control and oversight, lacks budgetary transparency,
> and continues to emphasize an internal security role within Indonesia;
> (B) members of the Indonesian security forces continue to commit many
> serious human rights violations, including killings, torture, rape, and
> arbitrary detention, particularly in areas of communal and separatist
> conflict; and
> (C) the Government of Indonesia largely fails to hold soldiers and police
> accountable for extrajudicial killings and other serious human rights
> abuses, both past and present, including atrocities committed in East Timor
> prior to its independence from Indonesia;
> (6) condemns the intimidation and harassment of human rights and civil
> society organizations by members of the Indonesian security forces and
> military-backed militia groups, and urges a complete investigation of the
> fatal poisoning of prominent human rights activist Munir in September 2004;
> and
> (7) urges the Government of Indonesia and the Indonesian military to
> continue to provide full, active, and unfettered cooperation to the Federal
> Bureau of Investigation of the Department of Justice in its investigation
> of the August 31, 2002, attack near Timika, Papua, which killed three
> people (including two Americans, Rick Spier and Ted Burgon) and injured 12
> others, and to pursue the indictment, apprehension, and prosecution of all
> parties responsible for that attack.
> (b) Findings Relating to Papua- Congress finds the following:
> (1) Papua, a resource-rich province whose indigenous inhabitants are
> predominantly Melanesian, was formerly a colony of the Netherlands.
> (2) While Indonesia has claimed Papua as part of its territory since its
> independence in the late 1940s, Papua remained under Dutch administrative
> control until 1962.
> (3) On August 15, 1962, Indonesia and the Netherlands signed an agreement
> at the United Nations in New York (commonly referred to as the `New York
> Agreement') which transferred administration of Papua first to a United
> Nations Temporary Executive Authority (UNTEA), and then to Indonesia in
> 1963, pending an `act of free choice . . . to permit the inhabitants to
> decide whether they wish to remain with Indonesia'.
> (4) In the New York Agreement, Indonesia formally recognized `the
> eligibility of all adults [in Papua] . . . to participate in [an] act of
> self-determination to be carried out in accordance with international
> practice', and pledged `to give the people of the territory the opportunity
> to exercise freedom of choice . . . before the end of 1969'.
> (5) In July and August 1969, Indonesia conducted an `Act of Free Choice',
> in which 1,025 selected Papuan elders voted unanimously to join Indonesia,
> in circumstances that were subject to both overt and covert forms of
> manipulation.
> (6) In the intervening years, indigenous Papuans have suffered extensive
> human rights abuses, natural resource exploitation, environmental
> degradation, and commercial dominance by immigrant communities, and some
> individuals and groups estimate that more than 100,000 Papuans have been
> killed during Indonesian rule, primarily during the Sukarno and Suharto
> administrations.
> (7) While the United States supports the territorial integrity of
> Indonesia, Indonesia's historical reliance on force for the maintenance of
> control has been counterproductive, and long-standing abuses by security
> forces have galvanized independence sentiments among many Papuans.
> (8) While the Indonesian parliament passed a Special Autonomy Law for Papua
> in October 2001 that was intended to allocate greater revenue and decision
> making authority to the Papuan provincial government, the promise of
> special autonomy has not been effectively realized and has been undermined
> in its implementation, such as by conflicting legal directives further
> subdividing the province in apparent contravention of the law and without
> the consent of appropriate provincial authorities.
> (9) Rather than demilitarizing its approach, Indonesia has reportedly sent
> thousands of additional troops to Papua, and military operations in the
> central highlands since the fall of 2004 have displaced thousands of
> civilians into very vulnerable circumstances, contributing further to
> mistrust of the central government by many indigenous Papuans.
> (10) According to the 2004 Annual Country Report on Human Rights Practices
> of the Department of State, in Indonesia `security force members murdered,
> tortured, raped, beat, and arbitrarily detained civilians and members of
> separatist movements' and `police frequently and arbitrarily detained
> persons without warrants, charges, or court proceedings' in Papua.
> (c) Reporting Requirements-
> (1) REPORT ON SPECIAL AUTONOMY- Not later than 180 days after the date of
> the enactment of this Act and one year thereafter, the Secretary of State
> shall submit to the appropriate congressional committees a report detailing
> implementation of special autonomy for Papua and Aceh. Such reports shall
> include--
> (A) an assessment of the extent to which each province has enjoyed an
> increase in revenue allocations and decision making authority;
> (B) a description of access by international press and non-governmental
> organizations to each province;
> (C) an assessment of the role played by local civil society in governance
> and decision making;
> (D) a description of force levels and conduct of Indonesian security forces
> in each province; and
> (E) a description of United States efforts to promote respect for human
> rights in each province.
> (2) REPORT ON THE 1969 ACT OF FREE CHOICE- Not later than 180 days after
> the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of State shall submit
> to the appropriate congressional committees a report analyzing the 1969 Act
> of Free Choice.
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TOPIC: POLICE LOOKING FOR CHRISTIAN PRIEST ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ABUSE
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ae134140308dc889
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 5 2006 5:26 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Police looking for priest accused of sexual abuse
By The Associated Press
AZFamily.com
Tuesday, April 4, 2006
Mesa, AZ - Police are looking for a
former Arizona priest accused of
sexually abusing a minor.
Phoenix and Yuma police have been
investigating the Rev. Jorge
Washington Cordova Hernandez for
about a year.
Hernandez's home diocese is in Quito,
Ecuador. He is accused of abusing a
minor during his assignment to St.
Francis of Assisi Parish in Yuma from
1988 to 1991. The church is part of
the Tucson Catholic Diocese.
Police are not accusing Hernandez of
any wrong doing during his work in
the Phoenix Catholic Diocese from
1991 to 1993.
Officials did not say who made the
allegation or what the specific
allegation is.
More at:
http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/stories/KTVKLNews20060403_priest-sex-abuse.8b6732d3.html
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TOPIC: U.K. HINDUS BEST AT MONEY MATTERS
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Date: Tues, Apr 4 2006 10:33 pm
From: usenet@mantra.comk04f and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Wouldn't that be a 10 m pole there?
Jai Maharaj
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Om Shanti
In article <FkBYf.9349$9h5.8497@dukeread09>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> i think people need to appreciate the fact that in britain the hindus can
> avoid kirastanism with a 10 ft pole, unlike in india where kirastani schools
> are well entrenched.
>
>
>
> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>
> > I observe that we Hindus manage money better than any other
> > group here in the US too.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > imemind@comcast.net posted:
> > >
> > > Call it an Indian trait. I have seen too many people from India who
> > > immigrated abroad with handful of money that could not have lasted them
> > > even a day eventually make it big by sheer hard work, sacrifices,
> > > frugal living and cooperative spirit. They make opportunities where
> > > none exist. They remain uneffected by ups or downs, riches or poverty.
> > > They renew their bonds with their communities in times of need, in
> > > times of their opulence. Community that stays togather, propspers
> > > togather. Family and community remain their focus. They always think of
> > > their future needs and readily sacrifice present needs for it. This is
> > > a typical Indian cultural mindset inhertited by most indian immigrants
> > > - You can call it money management - but it is essentially a cultural
> > > mindset.
> >
> >
> > www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
> > > UK Hindus best at money matters
> > >
>
>
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TOPIC: CHRISTIAN PRIEST RAPES 29-YR-OLD WOMAN, ARRESTED
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/963574ebe0287203
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Date: Tues, Apr 4 2006 10:34 pm
From: usenet@mantra.comk5ff7 and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Yes, raping and pillaging seems to be in their blood.
Jai Maharaj
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Om Shanti
In article <%SxYf.9332$9h5.7796@dukeread09>,
"are we on same page?" <sayhello@hotmail.com> posted:
> the kirastani priests seem to be doing this with same regularity as doing
> services at the church. most likely it is a kirastani-religious thing to do.
>
>
> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>
> > SUNNYVALE POLICE ARREST PRIEST ON SUSPICION OF RAPE
> >
> > CBS 5
> > Bay City News Wire
> > Friday, March 31, 2006
> >
> > Sunnyvale (BCN) - Police arrested a priest Thursday on
> > suspicion of raping a 29-year-old Oregon woman in a
> > Sunnyvale motel room.
> >
> > Police booked the Rev. Randy Benas in Santa Clara County
> > jail after questioning the priest Thursday.
> >
> > According to the Sunnyvale Police Department, the 29-
> > year-old woman from Grants Pass, Oregon had been
> > corresponding with the priest for over a year.
> >
> > The two met in a Sunnyvale motel room on the morning of
> > Tuesday, March 28, according to a police report.
> >
> > Police contacted the woman after she was treated at
> > Valley Medical Center in San Jose for sexual assault.
> > Investigators later contacted the priest and made the
> > arrest, police reported.
> >
> > Benas is a priest at the Sacred Heart Parish in Saratoga.
> >
> > More at:
> >
> http://cbs5.com/localwire/localfsnews/bcn/2006/03/31/n/HeadlineNews/PRIEST-AR
> REST/resources_bcn_html
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
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TOPIC: Israel to get Nuked. : China,Soviets
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b403814c535468c9
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 4 2006 10:30 pm
From: "Tilly"
serwad wrote:
> "bybyeissy" <bybyeissy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fPAYf.15680$Up2.3388@trnddc07...
> > How can anyone sane not see this coming. China and Russia giving
> > Iran and other countries technology, the rise in unemployment
> > around the world especially in Mideast.. I would give 1-10 odds
> > Israelies get nuked,. I suggest all Jews try to leave if only on
> > the basis from what N.Korea and Iranian leaders have said and What
> > former Soviet leaders and China have supplied them with .
> >
> Jews are leavbing in droves, especially to USA. Second destination is
> Russia, and multitudes of jews are even returning back to the Arab
> countries where they originate. I have met dozens of Jewish returnees
> to Egypt in Alexandria, which has a very strong Jewish congregation.
Liar and that comes direct from the Egyptian Embassy. The number of Jews is
declining not increasing.
--
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