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TOPIC: Business-School Buddhism
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cdd36c07cad429b8
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 8:53 pm
From: "http://vmdd.tech.mylinuxisp.com/buddhism/"
Source:
http://www.time.com/time/insidebiz/article/0,9171,1179373-2,00.html
B-School Buddhism
A PROFESSOR STEEPS CAREER ADVICE IN EASTERN THOUGHT FOR A NEW APPROACH
TO BUSINESS
By CAROLINA A. MIRANDA
Posted Sunday, Apr. 02, 2006
Srikumar Rao wants his students to meditate. He teaches them to be
grateful. In his gentle voice, he asks them to stop living in a "me
centered" world and start living in an "other centered" one. It's the
kind of talk that would be right at home in a Buddhist monastery, but
Rao's disciples gather in another kind of temple: business school.
Think of it as self-help for the M.B.A. set. Mixing Eastern philosophy
with career counseling, Rao's personal-development class gets business
students to explore what they find meaningful in life and integrate it
into their careers. Despite some initial skepticism about the touchy-
feely vibe (where else would a future M.B.A. read Ram Dass?), the class
has been one of the most popular offered at Columbia Business School,
where Rao has been an adjunct professor since 2000. Up to 200 students
apply for 40 spots. Students have been so moved by his message, they
started an informal alumni club to preserve the passion as they go on
to conquer commerce. Rao taught last fall at London Business School,
where he won another set of fans. "It's a very intense course," says
Mar Doncel, who works in investment banking and took his course in
London. "You do it with a lot of love."
How does Rao bring business-school Type A's in touch with their inner
yogi? He draws on his knowledge of Indian spirituality but speaks to
businesspeople in a language they understand, says Sreedhar Kona, who
took the course at Columbia in 2004. Rao has a Ph.D. in marketing from
Columbia and spent half a dozen years in that business, including
working in a pivotal position on promotions for the movie The Exorcist.
It was then that he asked himself the question he regularly poses to
his classes: "Is this what you want your legacy to be?"
Students say figuring out the answer forces them to define their
priorities in a way no other B-school course does. They are asked to
keep a daily journal and attend an off-site retreat. Required reading
ranges from classics like Creativity in Business to spiritual
travelogues like A Search in Secret India. In one exercise, students
spend an hour each day for a week helping someone else without
expecting anything in return.
It may not be advanced accounting, but the results do filter down to
the bottom line. Now a risk associate at GE in Stamford, Conn., Kona
says the techniques have made him a better team player. "Before, I
might not have gone out of my way to help a co-worker," he says. "Now I
take the stance that the success of a project is what's important.
Whether or not I get credit doesn't bother me as much." Doncel says the
course even improved her relationship with her partner. "It's much less
about the little things and more about what we want from life," she
says.
Rao, who is on sabbatical from Long Island University in Brookville,
N.Y., where he has taught the course since 1994, is expanding his
mission beyond business students. A book based on his principles, Are
You Ready to Succeed?, was published early this year, and he recently
started teaching seminars based on this course for the public.
Ultimately Rao is counting on his students to create a more genuine
ethic of business, one that would not allow a scandal like Enron to
take root. He likes to imagine what a generation of other-centered
businesspeople could do for the world. "In about a decade, my students
will be in leadership positions," he says with a satisfied smile. "And
they will ask, What can I do to make things better?"
With reporting by With reporting by Helen Gibson/ London
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TOPIC: AID TO ISRAEL MAY BE CANCELLED!
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 1:54 pm
From: "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com>
"Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e19vj8$15ke$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane neighbors.
>>>
>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>>>
>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name of
>> the ZioNzi state!
>>
> A State with free elections surrounded by tin pot despots.
> Israel is the first democracy in the ME.
Yeah! Right!
Apartheid's more like it.
How many schvartzes live in Ramat Aviv?
>
> Jim E
>
>
>
== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 8:56 pm
From: "Jim E"
"Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e19vj8$15ke$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane neighbors.
>>>
>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>>>
>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name of
>> the ZioNzi state!
>
> Israel is apartheid, not democratic.
Fencing out murderous ragheads is not apartheid, it is self defense.
>
> Just imagine if a heap of Ethiopian jews tried to purchase property to
> live in Herzliya, best known as "Little Moscow".
I don't picture a lot of Israeli teenagers blowing themselves up over it.
Pali's are savages pure and simple.
Not to be allowed ammong civilized folk.
Jim E
== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 2:03 pm
From: "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com>
"Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane
>>>>> neighbors.
>>>>
>>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>
>>>>
>>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name of
>>> the ZioNzi state!
>>
>> Israel is apartheid, not democratic.
>
> Fencing out murderous ragheads is not apartheid, it is self defense.
Bullshit. You obviously know nothing of the homeostasis of risk. The wall is
also illegal. Not that that has ever bothered the yids.
>
>
>>
>> Just imagine if a heap of Ethiopian jews tried to purchase property to
>> live in Herzliya, best known as "Little Moscow".
>
> I don't picture a lot of Israeli teenagers blowing themselves up over it.
> Pali's are savages pure and simple.
> Not to be allowed ammong civilized folk.
You didn't respond to what I posted. Simply tried to change the subject.
Typical.
Here it is again - Just imagine if a heap of Ethiopian jews tried to
purchase property to live in Herzliya, best known as "Little Moscow".
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim E
>
>
== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:06 pm
From: "Jim E"
"Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:bl%Zf.7994$yh.2192@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e19vj8$15ke$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
>>>> news:49rdrpFpr093U1@individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane
>>>>> neighbors.
>>>>
>>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>>>>
>>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name of
>>> the ZioNzi state!
>>>
>> A State with free elections surrounded by tin pot despots.
>> Israel is the first democracy in the ME.
>
> Yeah! Right!
>
> Apartheid's more like it.
>
> How many schvartzes live in Ramat Aviv?
>
What does that stupid question have to do with free elections.
Most ragheads don't even know what an election is.
You loons are sooo stewpid.
Jim E
== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:22 pm
From: "Jim E"
"Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
> news:49reuvFpib8bU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e1a07o$15rg$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>
>>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e19vj8$15ke$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49rdrpFpr093U1@individual.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane
>>>>>> neighbors.
>>>>>
>>>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>>
>>>>>
>>>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name of
>>>> the ZioNzi state!
>>>
>>> Israel is apartheid, not democratic.
>>
>> Fencing out murderous ragheads is not apartheid, it is self defense.
>
> Bullshit. You obviously know nothing of the homeostasis of risk.
The best approach to risk is to eliminate it
Perminantly, but that would enjender bad press for a week or two.
The wall is
> also illegal.
Oh horseshit. Any country can wall it's border.
You've been listening to those irrelevant europeons again.
They like to pretend that they are still players.
Guffaw
Not that that has ever bothered the yids.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Just imagine if a heap of Ethiopian jews tried to purchase property to
>>> live in Herzliya, best known as "Little Moscow".
>>
>> I don't picture a lot of Israeli teenagers blowing themselves up over it.
>> Pali's are savages pure and simple.
>> Not to be allowed ammong civilized folk.
>
> You didn't respond to what I posted. Simply tried to change the subject.
> Typical.
Thatwas a valid response.
The pali response to anything intrusive or unpleasant is to random;y explode
among helpless women and children.
I simply pointed out that this illogical and savage response was not likely
from a civilized western nation.
>
> Here it is again - Just imagine if a heap of Ethiopian jews tried to
> purchase property to live in Herzliya, best known as "Little Moscow".
>
Although I am not aware of any large population of Ethiopian Jews
If they have the cash, I see no problem.
== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 12:23 am
From: "serwad"
"Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e1a07o$15rg$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
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>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
>>>> news:49rdrpFpr093U1@individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane
>>>>> neighbors.
>>>>
>>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>
>>>>
>>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name of
>>> the ZioNzi state!
>>
>> Israel is apartheid, not democratic.
>
> Fencing out murderous ragheads is not apartheid, it is self defense.
ZioNazis have fenced themselves in pretty good!
== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 12:24 am
From: "serwad"
"Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e19vj8$15ke$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:49rdrpFpr093U1@individual.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane neighbors.
>>>
>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>>>
>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name of
>> the ZioNzi state!
>>
> A State with free elections surrounded by tin pot despots.
> Israel is the first democracy in the ME.
>
> Jim E
Shit yeah! demoncracy that murdered 12 people in the past 24 hours!
Israel does not even resemble a democracy, idiot!
== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 12:25 am
From: "serwad"
"Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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>>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e19vj8$15ke$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49rdrpFpr093U1@individual.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane
>>>>>> neighbors.
>>>>>
>>>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>>>>>
>>>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name of
>>>> the ZioNzi state!
>>>>
>>> A State with free elections surrounded by tin pot despots.
>>> Israel is the first democracy in the ME.
>>
>> Yeah! Right!
>>
>> Apartheid's more like it.
>>
>> How many schvartzes live in Ramat Aviv?
>>
>
>
> What does that stupid question have to do with free elections.
> Most ragheads don't even know what an election is.
YARMOULKE HEADS?
== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:36 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e1a07o$15rg$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
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>>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e19vj8$15ke$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49rdrpFpr093U1@individual.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane
>>>>>> neighbors.
>>>>>
>>>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>>
>>>>>
>>>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name of
>>>> the ZioNzi state!
>>>
>>> Israel is apartheid, not democratic.
>>
>> Fencing out murderous ragheads is not apartheid, it is self defense.
> ZioNazis have fenced themselves in pretty good!
>
Well then you should be a happy camper.
Jim E
== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:37 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e1a0ie$15uc$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:bl%Zf.7994$yh.2192@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e19vj8$15ke$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:49rdrpFpr093U1@individual.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane
>>>>>>> neighbors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>>>>>>
>>>>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name
>>>>> of the ZioNzi state!
>>>>>
>>>> A State with free elections surrounded by tin pot despots.
>>>> Israel is the first democracy in the ME.
>>>
>>> Yeah! Right!
>>>
>>> Apartheid's more like it.
>>>
>>> How many schvartzes live in Ramat Aviv?
>>>
>>
>>
>> What does that stupid question have to do with free elections.
>> Most ragheads don't even know what an election is.
> YARMOULKE HEADS?
>
You failed to address the statement.
Jim E
== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:38 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:bl%Zf.7994$yh.2192@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e19vj8$15ke$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
>>>> news:49rdrpFpr093U1@individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe after all the ragheads have been exterminated, and the free
>>>>> democratic State of Israel is no longer threatened by insane
>>>>> neighbors.
>>>>
>>>> When does israel become a democracy?
>>>>
>>> He meant "demoncracy" not democracy, he just misspelled the the name of
>>> the ZioNzi state!
>>>
>> A State with free elections surrounded by tin pot despots.
>> Israel is the first democracy in the ME.
>>
>> Jim E
> Shit yeah! demoncracy that murdered 12 people in the past 24 hours!
Killing islamizoid terrorists is not murder, its pest control.
Jim E
> Israel does not even resemble a democracy, idiot!
>
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TOPIC: WAR IS A RACKET
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/527e844bc1d753b7
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:00 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
Not a damn thing.
Just more ignored cut and paste crap.
Jim E
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TOPIC: alex Cut And Paste BULLSHIT
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:01 pm
From: "Jim E"
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TOPIC: HUGO GOES NU-KU-LAR!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 12:04 am
From: "serwad"
Disinformation campaign against Hugo Chavez goes nu-ku-lar
by Leigh Saavedra, April 5, 2006
Venezuela runs the voting machines that gave us Team Bush. So says
Michael Sneed, Sun-Times columnist [sidebar, right]
For absolute, frackin', crying-out-loud's sake...
The article was a little heady for me, so I skimmed, was choking in
hysteria by the time I got to: "Per The Miami Herald: 'The greater threat to
our nation's security comes not from Dubai and its pro-Western government,
but from Venezuela, where software engineers with links to the leftist
anti-American regime of Hugo Chavez are programming electronic voting
machines that will soon power U.S. elections'."
I'm not kidding. The attached URL is proof. While the Miami Herald has
rarely been considered the Diogenes of modern journalism, I'm not sure we've
seen anything this extreme recently. With a faint heart and damp brow I fear
that the disinformation war has suddenly taken on the speed of light,
requiring us to probably put on our verbal combat boots and forget sleeping
for awhile.
Wonder why the crazies are suddenly wanting to talk about voting
machines. You'd think they wouldn't dare allow the subject to be mentioned
in polite company, where an innocent might mention tests performed on the
infamous Diebolds. But then, the world gets madder by the moment. After all,
this is the week when Tom DeLay announces that he won't run for office again
because he wants to protect his supporters from Barbra Steisand (heard on
Air America). Muscleman time?
The most frightening thing of all is that there are people out there,
a few million, who will BELIEVE that this proves what the Bush people have
been trying to tell us, that Venezuela has designs on taking over the United
States.
Brrrrr.
Leigh Saavedra
(formerly writing as
Lisa Walsh Thomas)
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Leigh Saavedra is a lifelong activist and writer, former high
school teacher and gifted education specialist, currently living in Austin,
Texas. For the first years of the Bush dynasty, she wrote under the name
"Lisa Walsh Thomas." She appreciates feedback at saavedra1979@yahoo.com.
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The first thing I notice is that the Sun-Times columnist, one Michael
Sneed, is one of those annoying "character" writers who put their style
ahead of whatever might be the news -- we must swim through the tedious
buckshot, scattershot, sideshot, parting shot, backshot, and endshot, along
with "muscleman time," whatever that might mean, to read his prose.
I found the Miami Herald article [sidebar, right], which Sneed
references with lines like "According to the Miami Herald" and "Per the
Miami Herald," as if the Herald ran an investigative article on Smartmatic.
They didn't. The article in question was a free-lance opinion piece,
written by one Richard Brand, a second-year law student who, we're told, was
once employed by the Herald.
Brand's piece opens by complaining that Congress 'over-reacted' to the
Dubai ports deal, stating that "a better target for their hysteria" is the
alleged fact that an American-owned voting-machine company has been
purchased by a voting-machine company that's allegedly Venezuelan-owned.
It's pretty plain, pretty quick, that the article is coming from an
arch-Republican perspective, so smears against Hugo Chávez are to be
expected.
And indeed, Brand's column has all the earmarks of intentional
disinformation. I smell Karl Rove, or someone yearning to be Rove's next
incarnation. The article is full of 'facts' about Venezuelan politics,
Smartmatic ownership, etc., but curiously shy about stating where these
alleged facts came from.
One of the column's alleged facts concerns an exit poll conducted in
Venezuela by New York's Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates, which, Brand
writes, "showed Chávez had been defeated 59 to 41 percent; however, when
official tallies were announced, the numbers flipped to 58-42 in favor of
Chávez. Venezuela's electoral council briefly posted machine-by-machine
tallies on the Internet but removed them as mathematicians from MIT, Harvard
and other universities began questioning suspicious patterns in the
results."
But according to Narco News and Associated Press (sources I trust
much, much more than second-year law student Richard Brand), Penn, Schoen &
Berland Associates is not exactly pristine and impartial. The exit poll
Brand cites was conducted by "a partisan, U.S.-government funded,
anti-Chávez, activist group, Súmate."
Narco News also reports that Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates has a
track record of not revealing who sponsors its political polls, which is
contrary to the polling industry's ethics code. So when we're discussing
Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates, we're discussing pollsters who operate
beyond ordinary ethical constraints.
If Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates are removed from Brand's article
in the Herald, not much remains. And if Brand's Herald piece is discounted,
not much remains of Michael Sneed's piece in the Sun-Times.
An amusing aside: In Sneed's Sun-Times piece, the next item after his
buckshot, scattershot, sideshot, parting shot, backshot, and endshot, is
word that "lovebirds" Jennifer Aniston and Vince Vaughn were spotted
lunching together at a Greek restaurant. So Sneed isn't a reporter who's
about to be nominated for a Pulitzer.
Our opinions: Voting machines with secret software reduce public
confidence in elections, and make election theft more likely. These machines
are a problem, and shouldn't be used, period.
It shouldn't matter who owns the company, whether the machine's
manufacturer is American and Republican (Diebold) or allegedly foreign and
anti-American (Smartmatic). The only question that matters is:
Is the software secret, or is it publicly published? If it's secret
software, it's a crime waiting to happen, or a crime that's already
happened.
As for Hugo Chávez, we're not his greatest fans, but our impression
from a distance is that unlike any American Republican and most American
Democrats, the prosperity and wellbeing of average people is something he
actually cares about.
And that makes Mr Hugo Chavez very much an enemy of the criminals
who've used rigged voting machines to steal American government
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:34 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:fF%Zf.8001$yh.440@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Disinformation campaign against Hugo Chavez goes nu-ku-lar
>
> by Leigh Saavedra, April 5, 2006
>
> Venezuela runs the voting machines that gave us Team Bush. So says
> Michael Sneed, Sun-Times columnist [sidebar, right]
>
So now you quote the "Weekly World News"
For you this actually a step up.
Jim E
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TOPIC: $10,000 Reward for Thai Air Force Commander Akkavibul
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/416ef42277b367dc
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:17 am
From: Anonymous
Reward paid on conviction of Suchart and Yuwadee Akkavibul.
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 3:25 am
From: Anonymous
Reward paid on conviction of Suchart and Yuwadee Akkavibul.
http://thailand.ahrchk.net/mainfile.php/general/29/
http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/mainfile.php/2004/886/
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TOPIC: "A good illegal alien is a dead illegal alien"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cdb9b82a348865f7
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:44 pm
From: bowman
Robert Seeker-After-Patterns wrote:
> While I don't disagree in regards to the killing of any human being
> indiscriminately is wrong, but rather would suggest deportation and use
> of force *up to lethal force* to defend the borders, what is this about
> illegal Irish?
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/03/09/irish_immigrants_press_for_visa_reform/
( http://tinyurl.com/pabdh )
You don't want to be snooping around South Boston checking on the
documentation of nannies, bartenders, and day laborers. The Irish Mafia
ain't what it used to be, but there is always room in the Bay for one more.
Of course, With the Celtic Tiger, there may be some illegal Yanks in
Ireland, so what comes around goes around.
It was twenty or so years ago Teddy K figured he could safely run his mouth
about illegal immigrants until the facts of life were explained to him.
Teddy may have required a little more schooling after he snubber Gerry
Adams, too.
In parts of the country, I wouldn't get too nosey about that carpenter
speaking Russian, either. You don't have to be Hispanic to figure out the
US might not be a bad place to live.
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TOPIC: iISRAEL FIRSTER, TRAITOR TO AMERICA
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d22a1f4e3b5be8f9
==============================================================================
== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:09 pm
From: "Jim E"
"Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e17f4f$c95$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>
> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
> news:49ot99FpkgjaU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:yXGZf.496$zh1.236@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide told prosecutors that
>>> President Bush authorized a leak of sensitive intelligence information
>>> about Iraq, according to court papers filed by prosecutors in the CIA
>>> leak case.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Cite , you senile old communist pile of crap.
>
> Try the news stories last night, dopey.
>
> Scooter has ratted on his boss.
>
>
So, in usual libloser fashion, accusation = proof.
Pathetic.
Jim E
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:12 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:cHNZf.4475$Mf.3503@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e17f4f$c95$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>
>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
>> news:49ot99FpkgjaU1@individual.net...
>>>
>>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:yXGZf.496$zh1.236@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>>>>
>>>> Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide told prosecutors that
>>>> President Bush authorized a leak of sensitive intelligence information
>>>> about Iraq, according to court papers filed by prosecutors in the CIA
>>>> leak case.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cite , you senile old communist pile of crap.
>>
>> Try the news stories last night, dopey.
>>
>> Scooter has ratted on his boss.
>
> Jim, reads selectively, only the praises of glory of Zionism!
>
Actually I don't worry too much about the fortunes of Israel.
Mostly I just want all of islam destroyed before it can undo the progress of
the civilized west in the last thousand years.
Jim E
Jim E
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TOPIC: MOSCOW ISSUES WEST A WARNING.......
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e454b1f547ff3bd2
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:36 pm
From: "The Last 2446 Days™ ♥"
Moscow issues West a warning
By Judy Dempsey International Herald Tribune
FRIDAY, APRIL 7, 2006
BERLIN With Chancellor Angela Merkel shifting German foreign policy
more markedly toward the United States and the defense of human rights,
Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, on Thursday warned the West
against isolating his country from helping to broker disputes with Iran
and other conflicts in the Middle East.
His warnings come amid growing criticism by the Bush administration and
several EU countries over Russia's crackdown on human rights groups and
of the Kremlin's willingness to use its vast energy resources as
political pressure on its neighbors.
"We often hear from some countries that Russia is becoming strong and
unpredictable. But this is not the case," said Lavrov, a former
ambassador to the UN who was appointed foreign minister in March 2004.
"In the 1990s, when the Commonwealth of Independent states was
disintegrating and there were fears of Russia breaking up too, some
people in the West said they wanted a strong and united Russia. Now we
are here. They should be grateful."
His warnings, made at a lunchtime meeting sponsored by Deutsche Bank in
Berlin, were combined with a charm offensive during a two-day visit to
Germany. He met Merkel and officials of Germany's biggest companies and
banks, which have built on traditionally strong ties to establish a
strong presence in Russia.
Germany is still one of Russia's most important Western partners,
despite Merkel's attempts to rebalance her foreign policy by breaking
the special axis that her Social Democratic predecessor, Gerhard
Schröder, had forged with Paris and Moscow at the expense of ties with
the United States and the EU.
Russia's image has deteriorated in Germany after Schröder's close ties
with President Vladimir Putin came under close scrutiny.
The Economics Ministry in Berlin disclosed last week that just before
Schröder left office last November, his government issued a credit
guarantee of €1 billion, or $1.2 billion, to Gazprom, Russia's
state-owned energy company, to build the North Sea Gas Pipeline with
two German companies.
Schröder was appointed chairman of the new company overseeing the
construction of the pipeline shortly after leaving office, while the
deal itself was clinched last September, just before Germany's
parliamentary elections in which Schröder lost to Merkel, a
conservative.
Lavrov said he had no idea if Gazprom - the world's largest gas company
- would still take up the credit guarantee. "I know nothing about it,"
he said.
He did say, however, that Merkel supported the pipeline, which will
cost over €10 billion to construct. "We wish to diversify the routes
of energy exports," he said, adding that the project would lead to more
energy security.
But he brushed aside any notion that the pipeline would in fact
increase Europe's dependence on Russia for its energy, and that the
energy relationship was a one-way street. "Energy security requires
consideration for the interests of both energy suppliers and energy
consumers," he said. "We depend on Europe for our exports and we also
need stable and reliable demand."
Thirty-five percent of Russia's energy is exported, but exports account
for 70 percent of Gazprom's revenues because Russia's domestic energy
prices are subsized. Over 80 percent of Gazprom's exports are sold to
Europe.
Flush with a large trade surplus because of record-high energy prices
that has enabled Putin to pay off debt to the Paris Club of Western
creditor nations, Russia has more confidently taken foreign policy
initiatives.
These include the recent invitation to leaders of Hamas, the Islamic
movement that won the Palestinian elections, to visit Moscow. Russia
also offered to process uranium for Iran inside Russia in a bid to
break the stalemate with the United States and the European negotiating
group of Britain, France and Germany over Iran's nuclear program.
Lavrov said those initiatives were justified because Russia was not
prepared to accept any "clash of civilizations" between the Western
world and the Middle East. In barely veiled criticism of U.S. policy in
Mideast, Lavrov said Washington's plans to democratize the region were
obsessive.
"We have to take into account the overall energy needs of the world and
the obsessions with democratizing the region overnight," he said. "We
can't take sides in the conflict of civilizations. We want to help to
bring both sides together. We want fair play. Russia's foreign policy
is free of ideological considerations."
Lavrov insisted that Russia was pursuing an "unbiased" approach in the
region that was crucial to global energy security. Even if all the
ambitious plans are implemented to save energy, "the need by the world
for energy supplies will not diminish," which is why a new concept of
international relations was needed that involved Russia and Germany.
"There must be no going back to zero sum games or political games," he
said. "We want to play in a team."
BERLIN With Chancellor Angela Merkel shifting German foreign policy
more markedly toward the United States and the defense of human rights,
Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, on Thursday warned the West
against isolating his country from helping to broker disputes with Iran
and other conflicts in the Middle East.
His warnings come amid growing criticism by the Bush administration and
several EU countries over Russia's crackdown on human rights groups and
of the Kremlin's willingness to use its vast energy resources as
political pressure on its neighbors.
"We often hear from some countries that Russia is becoming strong and
unpredictable. But this is not the case," said Lavrov, a former
ambassador to the UN who was appointed foreign minister in March 2004.
"In the 1990s, when the Commonwealth of Independent states was
disintegrating and there were fears of Russia breaking up too, some
people in the West said they wanted a strong and united Russia. Now we
are here. They should be grateful."
His warnings, made at a lunchtime meeting sponsored by Deutsche Bank in
Berlin, were combined with a charm offensive during a two-day visit to
Germany. He met Merkel and officials of Germany's biggest companies and
banks, which have built on traditionally strong ties to establish a
strong presence in Russia.
Germany is still one of Russia's most important Western partners,
despite Merkel's attempts to rebalance her foreign policy by breaking
the special axis that her Social Democratic predecessor, Gerhard
Schröder, had forged with Paris and Moscow at the expense of ties with
the United States and the EU.
Russia's image has deteriorated in Germany after Schröder's close ties
with President Vladimir Putin came under close scrutiny.
The Economics Ministry in Berlin disclosed last week that just before
Schröder left office last November, his government issued a credit
guarantee of €1 billion, or $1.2 billion, to Gazprom, Russia's
state-owned energy company, to build the North Sea Gas Pipeline with
two German companies.
Schröder was appointed chairman of the new company overseeing the
construction of the pipeline shortly after leaving office, while the
deal itself was clinched last September, just before Germany's
parliamentary elections in which Schröder lost to Merkel, a
conservative.
Lavrov said he had no idea if Gazprom - the world's largest gas company
- would still take up the credit guarantee. "I know nothing about it,"
he said.
He did say, however, that Merkel supported the pipeline, which will
cost over €10 billion to construct. "We wish to diversify the routes
of energy exports," he said, adding that the project would lead to more
energy security.
But he brushed aside any notion that the pipeline would in fact
increase Europe's dependence on Russia for its energy, and that the
energy relationship was a one-way street. "Energy security requires
consideration for the interests of both energy suppliers and energy
consumers," he said. "We depend on Europe for our exports and we also
need stable and reliable demand."
Thirty-five percent of Russia's energy is exported, but exports account
for 70 percent of Gazprom's revenues because Russia's domestic energy
prices are subsized. Over 80 percent of Gazprom's exports are sold to
Europe.
Flush with a large trade surplus because of record-high energy prices
that has enabled Putin to pay off debt to the Paris Club of Western
creditor nations, Russia has more confidently taken foreign policy
initiatives.
These include the recent invitation to leaders of Hamas, the Islamic
movement that won the Palestinian elections, to visit Moscow. Russia
also offered to process uranium for Iran inside Russia in a bid to
break the stalemate with the United States and the European negotiating
group of Britain, France and Germany over Iran's nuclear program.
Lavrov said those initiatives were justified because Russia was not
prepared to accept any "clash of civilizations" between the Western
world and the Middle East. In barely veiled criticism of U.S. policy in
Mideast, Lavrov said Washington's plans to democratize the region were
obsessive.
"We have to take into account the overall energy needs of the world and
the obsessions with democratizing the region overnight," he said. "We
can't take sides in the conflict of civilizations. We want to help to
bring both sides together. We want fair play. Russia's foreign policy
is free of ideological considerations."
Lavrov insisted that Russia was pursuing an "unbiased" approach in the
region that was crucial to global energy security. Even if all the
ambitious plans are implemented to save energy, "the need by the world
for energy supplies will not diminish," which is why a new concept of
international relations was needed that involved Russia and Germany.
"There must be no going back to zero sum games or political games," he
said. "We want to play in a team."
BERLIN With Chancellor Angela Merkel shifting German foreign policy
more markedly toward the United States and the defense of human rights,
Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, on Thursday warned the West
against isolating his country from helping to broker disputes with Iran
and other conflicts in the Middle East.
His warnings come amid growing criticism by the Bush administration and
several EU countries over Russia's crackdown on human rights groups and
of the Kremlin's willingness to use its vast energy resources as
political pressure on its neighbors.
"We often hear from some countries that Russia is becoming strong and
unpredictable. But this is not the case," said Lavrov, a former
ambassador to the UN who was appointed foreign minister in March 2004.
"In the 1990s, when the Commonwealth of Independent states was
disintegrating and there were fears of Russia breaking up too, some
people in the West said they wanted a strong and united Russia. Now we
are here. They should be grateful."
His warnings, made at a lunchtime meeting sponsored by Deutsche Bank in
Berlin, were combined with a charm offensive during a two-day visit to
Germany. He met Merkel and officials of Germany's biggest companies and
banks, which have built on traditionally strong ties to establish a
strong presence in Russia.
Germany is still one of Russia's most important Western partners,
despite Merkel's attempts to rebalance her foreign policy by breaking
the special axis that her Social Democratic predecessor, Gerhard
Schröder, had forged with Paris and Moscow at the expense of ties with
the United States and the EU.
Russia's image has deteriorated in Germany after Schröder's close ties
with President Vladimir Putin came under close scrutiny.
The Economics Ministry in Berlin disclosed last week that just before
Schröder left office last November, his government issued a credit
guarantee of €1 billion, or $1.2 billion, to Gazprom, Russia's
state-owned energy company, to build the North Sea Gas Pipeline with
two German companies.
Schröder was appointed chairman of the new company overseeing the
construction of the pipeline shortly after leaving office, while the
deal itself was clinched last September, just before Germany's
parliamentary elections in which Schröder lost to Merkel, a
conservative.
Lavrov said he had no idea if Gazprom - the world's largest gas company
- would still take up the credit guarantee. "I know nothing about it,"
he said.
He did say, however, that Merkel supported the pipeline, which will
cost over €10 billion to construct. "We wish to diversify the routes
of energy exports," he said, adding that the project would lead to more
energy security.
But he brushed aside any notion that the pipeline would in fact
increase Europe's dependence on Russia for its energy, and that the
energy relationship was a one-way street. "Energy security requires
consideration for the interests of both energy suppliers and energy
consumers," he said. "We depend on Europe for our exports and we also
need stable and reliable demand."
Thirty-five percent of Russia's energy is exported, but exports account
for 70 percent of Gazprom's revenues because Russia's domestic energy
prices are subsized. Over 80 percent of Gazprom's exports are sold to
Europe.
Flush with a large trade surplus because of record-high energy prices
that has enabled Putin to pay off debt to the Paris Club of Western
creditor nations, Russia has more confidently taken foreign policy
initiatives.
These include the recent invitation to leaders of Hamas, the Islamic
movement that won the Palestinian elections, to visit Moscow. Russia
also offered to process uranium for Iran inside Russia in a bid to
break the stalemate with the United States and the European negotiating
group of Britain, France and Germany over Iran's nuclear program.
Lavrov said those initiatives were justified because Russia was not
prepared to accept any "clash of civilizations" between the Western
world and the Middle East. In barely veiled criticism of U.S. policy in
Mideast, Lavrov said Washington's plans to democratize the region were
obsessive.
"We have to take into account the overall energy needs of the world and
the obsessions with democratizing the region overnight," he said. "We
can't take sides in the conflict of civilizations. We want to help to
bring both sides together. We want fair play. Russia's foreign policy
is free of ideological considerations."
Lavrov insisted that Russia was pursuing an "unbiased" approach in the
region that was crucial to global energy security. Even if all the
ambitious plans are implemented to save energy, "the need by the world
for energy supplies will not diminish," which is why a new concept of
international relations was needed that involved Russia and Germany.
"There must be no going back to zero sum games or political games," he
said. "We want to play in a team."
BERLIN With Chancellor Angela Merkel shifting German foreign policy
more markedly toward the United States and the defense of human rights,
Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, on Thursday warned the West
against isolating his country from helping to broker disputes with Iran
and other conflicts in the Middle East.
His warnings come amid growing criticism by the Bush administration and
several EU countries over Russia's crackdown on human rights groups and
of the Kremlin's willingness to use its vast energy resources as
political pressure on its neighbors.
"We often hear from some countries that Russia is becoming strong and
unpredictable. But this is not the case," said Lavrov, a former
ambassador to the UN who was appointed foreign minister in March 2004.
"In the 1990s, when the Commonwealth of Independent states was
disintegrating and there were fears of Russia breaking up too, some
people in the West said they wanted a strong and united Russia. Now we
are here. They should be grateful."
His warnings, made at a lunchtime meeting sponsored by Deutsche Bank in
Berlin, were combined with a charm offensive during a two-day visit to
Germany. He met Merkel and officials of Germany's biggest companies and
banks, which have built on traditionally strong ties to establish a
strong presence in Russia.
Germany is still one of Russia's most important Western partners,
despite Merkel's attempts to rebalance her foreign policy by breaking
the special axis that her Social Democratic predecessor, Gerhard
Schröder, had forged with Paris and Moscow at the expense of ties with
the United States and the EU.
Russia's image has deteriorated in Germany after Schröder's close ties
with President Vladimir Putin came under close scrutiny.
The Economics Ministry in Berlin disclosed last week that just before
Schröder left office last November, his government issued a credit
guarantee of €1 billion, or $1.2 billion, to Gazprom, Russia's
state-owned energy company, to build the North Sea Gas Pipeline with
two German companies.
Schröder was appointed chairman of the new company overseeing the
construction of the pipeline shortly after leaving office, while the
deal itself was clinched last September, just before Germany's
parliamentary elections in which Schröder lost to Merkel, a
conservative.
Lavrov said he had no idea if Gazprom - the world's largest gas company
- would still take up the credit guarantee. "I know nothing about it,"
he said.
He did say, however, that Merkel supported the pipeline, which will
cost over €10 billion to construct. "We wish to diversify the routes
of energy exports," he said, adding that the project would lead to more
energy security.
But he brushed aside any notion that the pipeline would in fact
increase Europe's dependence on Russia for its energy, and that the
energy relationship was a one-way street. "Energy security requires
consideration for the interests of both energy suppliers and energy
consumers," he said. "We depend on Europe for our exports and we also
need stable and reliable demand."
Thirty-five percent of Russia's energy is exported, but exports account
for 70 percent of Gazprom's revenues because Russia's domestic energy
prices are subsized. Over 80 percent of Gazprom's exports are sold to
Europe.
Flush with a large trade surplus because of record-high energy prices
that has enabled Putin to pay off debt to the Paris Club of Western
creditor nations, Russia has more confidently taken foreign policy
initiatives.
These include the recent invitation to leaders of Hamas, the Islamic
movement that won the Palestinian elections, to visit Moscow. Russia
also offered to process uranium for Iran inside Russia in a bid to
break the stalemate with the United States and the European negotiating
group of Britain, France and Germany over Iran's nuclear program.
Lavrov said those initiatives were justified because Russia was not
prepared to accept any "clash of civilizations" between the Western
world and the Middle East. In barely veiled criticism of U.S. policy in
Mideast, Lavrov said Washington's plans to democratize the region were
obsessive.
"We have to take into account the overall energy needs of the world and
the obsessions with democratizing the region overnight," he said. "We
can't take sides in the conflict of civilizations. We want to help to
bring both sides together. We want fair play. Russia's foreign policy
is free of ideological considerations."
Lavrov insisted that Russia was pursuing an "unbiased" approach in the
region that was crucial to global energy security. Even if all the
ambitious plans are implemented to save energy, "the need by the world
for energy supplies will not diminish," which is why a new concept of
international relations was needed that involved Russia and Germany.
"There must be no going back to zero sum games or political games," he
said. "We want to play in a team."
---0---
==============================================================================
TOPIC: WORLD WAR III NEWS, Sunday, April 9th, 2006 AD........Report: U.S.
plans air attack on Iran; IAEA inspectors in Tehran
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/16ec3fb8ac135416
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:38 pm
From: "The Last 2446 Days™ ♥"
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/703745.html
Last update - 19:21 08/04/2006
Report: U.S. plans air attack on Iran; IAEA inspectors in Tehran
By Haaretz Service and Agencies
The Bush administration is planning for a major air attack on Iran,
according to an article published on the New Yorker magazine website
Saturday.
According to the article by Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Seymour M.
Hersh, U.S. undercover troops are in Iran collecting data and working
to establish contacts with anti-government groups, and the Air Force is
drawing up lists of targets, despite publicly advocating diplomacy in
order to stop Iran from pursuing nuclear weapons.
According to the report, the U.S. military and the international
community believe that President George W. Bush's ultimate goal in the
nuclear confrontation with Iran is regime change. The article quotes a
former senior intelligence official as saying that Bush and others in
the White House view Iran's president as a potential Adolf Hitler,
after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad challenged the reality of the Holocaust and
said that Israel must be "wiped off the map."
The article goes on to say that one of the option plans presented to
the White House by the Pentagon calls for the use of a bunker-buster
tactical nuclear weapon against underground nuclear sites such as the
Natanz centrifuge plant.
Fire breaks out adjacent to nuclear facilities outside Tehran
A fire broke out in a forest north of Tehran on Saturday, not far from
an area intelligence agencies suspected illegal nuclear activity. It
took firefighters some seven hours to contain the blaze.
A previous fire in the same forest occurred after Tehran municipality
workers chopped town trees in the area, after which arsons set a fire.
Analysts believe that the two fires may be linked and that they were
set by intelligence officers or members of the Iranian Atomic Energy
Committee, so that remnants of various materials, mainly enriched
uranium, would not be detected.
There had been a military base in the vicinity of Lavizan, near where
the fire raged, where, according to the Central Intelligence Agency,
uranium had been enriched. The information was transferred to the
International Atomic Energy Agency six months ago, and the United
Nations nuclear watchdog called for inspections at the site. The
Iranian government rejected the request, only allowing IAEA inspectors
to visit after significant changes had been implemented.
The changes are visible in satellite images, which indicate that the
Iranians destroyed the military base and built a soccer stadium and
other sports facilities in the area. Constructing the stadium provided
an excuse for overturning and replacing the soil in the area, so that
if samples were to be taken, remnants of illegal materials would not be
detected.
IAEA inspectors arrive in Iran to visit nuclear facilities
Five inspectors from the United Nations nuclear watchdog agency have
arrived in Tehran to visit Iran's uranium enrichment and reprocessing
facilities, state-run television reported Saturday.
Iran's deputy nuclear chief Mohammad Saeedi said the inspectors would
visit the Natanz uranium enrichment plant and the Isfahan Uranium
Conversion Facility, both in central Iran, later Saturday.
The scheduled inspection comes just head of a key visit to Iran by
Mohammed ElBaradei, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency.
ElBaradei is expected to visit Iran next week to try to wrest
concessions from Tehran on its atomic program, diplomats and officials
said Friday.
The official Islamic Republic News Agency said the IAEA chief might
arrive in Iran as early as Sunday or Monday.
The five inspectors, who arrived in Tehran on Friday, will stay in Iran
for five days, state-run television reported.
Iran had permitted IAEA inspections of its facilities until January
when it forbade snap inspections after its nuclear dossier was reported
to the UN Security Council.
Natanz is the facility where Iran resumed research-scale uranium
enrichment in February and the Isfahan site reprocesses raw uranium
into hexaflouride gas, the feedstock for enrichment.
The U.S. accuses Iran of using its civilian nuclear facilities as a
cover to develop nuclear weapons. Tehran has denied the charges saying
its nuclear program is merely for generating electricity.
The Security Council demanded on March 29 that Iran suspend enrichment
and asked the IAEA to report back in 30 days on whether it had
complied. Iran has rejected the demand, saying the small-scale
enrichment project was strictly for research and was within its rights
under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.
While ElBaradei's trip is meant to defuse tensions caused by fears Iran
could be seeking nuclear weapons, a partial success could actually
exacerbate differences among the five permanent members of the U.N.
Security Council.
If Iran commits to some Security Council requests but does not meet
demands to freeze uranium enrichment that might placate Russia and
China, which oppose tough measures against Iran. It would, however,
fall short of the full compliance sought by the U.S., France and
Britain on enrichment and other issues.
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TOPIC: BRUSSELS TRIBUNAL ON ZIONAZI WAR
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/07338587d2fd5561
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:41 pm
From: "serwad"
A well-planned, politically solid session of the World Tribunal on Iraq took
place April 15-17 in Brussels, Belgium. The hearings showed that key Bush
administration members planned aggression against Iraq starting years before
the war was launched.
Key organizers and activists from throughout Europe attended the full event,
with representatives from other continents. This hearing was the first major
step in a growing international effort by organizations in many countries to
consolidate charges against the Bush administration for war crimes.
The idea for a war-crimes tribunal was raised a year ago and took shape in
Istanbul last fall. There have already been public meetings or hearings in
Mexico, Japan, Denmark and this three-day hearing in Brussels. There will be
a hearing on May 8 in New York City at Cooper Union and on June 19 in
Germany.
The Brussels Tribunal held the rapt attention of the audience through two
solid days of testimony. With the auditorium packed, an overflow audience
followed the proceedings by video camera in an upstairs theater. The
discussion focused on the programs and policies promoted by the "Project for
the New American Century," or PNAC.
This neoconservative think tank has advocated global U.S. hegemony,
primarily through the threat or use of military power. Prominent supporters
of PNAC include Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice and Paul
Wolfo witz, who are now leading members of the Bush gang. Their public
advocacy of preemptive war, their use of overwhelming military force and
their focus on reshaping the entire Middle East through regime change and
occupation in Iraq began long before Sept. 11, 2001.
Lieven de Cauter, a Belgian professor who played a key role in organizing
the tribunal here, wrote, "In the New American Century politics, military
logic, economics and organized crime have become a seamless continuum, one
large global casino."
Testimony included 30-minute presentations by Michael Parenti, Michel Collon
and Hans Von Sponeck, among others. A special panel of three Iraqis--Ghazwan
Al Mukhtar, Haifa Zangana and Abdul Ilah Al Bayaty--gave first-hand
testimony on the impact of the war. Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey
Clark, unable to travel because of an injury, testified by video.
Following each presentation, two people acting as prosecutors and two as
defense cross-examined the presenters. The panel of jurists then asked
additional questions.
The defense of PNAC was made by two specialists in politics of the
militarist "neo-con" grouping--Jim Lobe and Tom Barry. Karen Parker and Jean
Bricmont were the prosecutors.
The final ruling of an impressive panel of jurists reflected the seriousness
of the event. The following are some excerpts from the ruling.
Tribunal ruling
"According to a clear majority of States and a large consensus of legal
experts, the invasion of Iraq constitutes an act of aggres sion, a breach of
one of the most fundamental norms of the international legal order. ...
"Far from bringing stability and peace in Iraq and the region, the invasion
and occupation have created instability and chaos. Moreover, the deliberate
destruction of Iraq has effectively promoted the Israeli government's
policies of further unlawful expansion and de facto annexation of
territories as well as further annihilation of the rights of the Palestinian
people. ...
"The United Nations should avoid complicity with--let alone legitimize in
any way--the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. Any such action would
further discredit this world body. ...
"Finally, the Tribunal calls upon the peoples of the world to demand that
their governments deny military, political, financial or any other support
to the occupying powers; and oppose the illegal implementation by occupation
forces or their surrogates of any plans for the wholesale privatization of
the Iraqi economy. The Tribunal also expresses its solidarity with the Iraqi
people and its support for their attempts at recovering their full
sovereignty."
The panel of jurists was headed by Francois Houtart, who participated in the
Bertrand Russell War Crimes Tribunal on U.S. Crimes in Vietnam in 1967. The
panel included Denis Halliday, formerly head of the UN Oil for Food Program;
Nawal el-Sadaawi, a well-known Egyptian author and doctor; Salah Al-Mukhtar
of the Arab Lawyer Association of Britain, Pierre Klein, Samir Amin and Ludo
Abicht.
In the United States, the ANSWER Coalition plans to promote the work of the
World Tribunal on Iraq by calling a hearing on Aug. 26 in New York as the
world media gathers there on the eve of the Repub lican National Convention.
This hear i ng in late August will offer tribunal organizers from around the
world an opportunity to report their most important findings and
conclusions. Because of its proximity to the convention, the hearing will
connect the work done around the world with the mass struggles expected
there.
More information on the tribunal movement can be found at www.iacenter.org .
Sarah Flounders, co-coordinator of the International Action Center,
testified at the Brussels tribunal.
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TOPIC: An American Intifada?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d17ab8ed623e651d
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:43 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:sd%Zf.7987$yh.1687@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Fay" <Fay@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns979FE388E7329Faynospamnet@216.168.3.44...
>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>> news:9i_Zf.7970$yh.6128@bignews3.bellsouth.net:
>>
>>> They have been expelled 150 years ago, this fact does not
>>> diminish their claim to their ancestral lands!
>>>
>>
>> They sold their land. They took their gold and left, just as the French
>> took their gold and left Louisiana. I sold some land with a house in
>> 1962,
>> I gave up ownership when I was paid.
>
> YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IDIOT!
>
You give a whole new meaning to the expression
Up, and locked.
It's a military expression, so you will never figure it out, you coward who
runs from country to country, hiding from you past.
Jim E
Jim E
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