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Today's topics:
* Time For Blacks To Declare A Culture War? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/573fb76db7781873
* This Land is Their Land, and We Are the Illegal Aliens - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6f24ab2b39ff1401
* IMPEACH HIM AND THE CONGRESS, TOO! - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6ea15b374f094ed
* SEE THE HEROES! SCREAMING FOR HELP! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f4e4815dbdd97850
* ISRAELI FASCIST MURDERERS! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/951289ee396059d1
* Dance Of The Judas Goats! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/84825677927797a6
* about the communist...... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/57a9d5b0351782fd
* YOUNG JEW THIEVES - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d3eed7f76fb27a07
* FACE THE WORLD YOU COWARDLY KILLERS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/76ba4a6aaa76501d
* THERMITE USED IN WTC DEMOLITION - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b5dc051ba7c1a4a9
* Black's lynch mob mentality over alleged Duke assault - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ea6745f7001a01c6
* Iran has A Nuke - 5 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/958f1b76e584a34e
* Why do Muslims protest violently? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6af3f38f3678ffcc
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TOPIC: Time For Blacks To Declare A Culture War?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/573fb76db7781873
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:56 pm
From: Von Bailey
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:31:11 -0400, Voice Of Reason <> wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 17:50:40 -0700, Von Bailey
><ovbailey@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:32:05 -0400, Voice Of Reason <> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 20:54:17 -0500, Voice Of Reason <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/story/404374p-342477c.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Specifically, we need aggressive, concerted action by members and
>>>>>>>>>>>institutions of the respectable black middle class to do open combat
>>>>>>>>>>>against the rise of an ancient enemy: a bold, seductive street
>>>>>>>>>>>culture that exalts lawlessness, addiction and anti-family behavior
>>>>>>>>>>>like pimping, sexual promiscuity, ignorance and personal selfishness."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Now before anyone screams "racism" or "bigot", click on the link below
>>>>>>>>>>>and note that the author is as much as an African-American (born in
>>>>>>>>>>>Harlem, now lives in Brooklyn) as any other black man.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You say that as if a black person can't work towards the goal of those
>>>>>>>>>>who work against black people. That's why your stupid rationales
>>>>>>>>>>never make sense, they are based on ridiculous assumptions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No, the ridiculous assumption here is yours, namely that blacks like
>>>>>>>>>Mr Louis are working "against", not for, black people. So, in the
>>>>>>>>>case of someone like him, who was born in Harlem and lives among his
>>>>>>>>>fellow blacks in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn (a mostly black
>>>>>>>>>section of Brooklyn, which itself is mostly black), why on earth would
>>>>>>>>>he not want to advance the cause of black people, since he is one of
>>>>>>>>>them and lives among them?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>To make money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You really ARE simple-minded..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The assumption that money isn't a powerful motivator is simple-minded.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please explain what that has to with a black columnist who obviously
>>>>>works and lives among his fellow blacks, wanting to lift up those
>>>>>around him. How is condemning "pimping, sexual promiscuity, ignorance
>>>>>and personal selfishness" in the `hood working "against" black people?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>No, he's condemning a certain kind of music as if it's a source of a
>>>>problem instead of one of the symptoms. Pimping, sexual prmiscuity
>>>>and ignorance was around long before rap and by more than just black
>>>>people. It isn't a 'black problem' it is a subject and POV that will
>>>>get him published in newspapers and magazines. Whether or not he
>>>>honestly shares the feelings he rants is irrelevant as they are
>>>>superficial attacks that will result in nothing except his getting
>>>>into print, noticed and paid.
>>>
>>>IOW, yer head is stuck deep in the sand, and you like it just fine
>>>right there. As for the rest of your copouts, "pimping, sexual
>>>prmiscuity and ignorance" are NOT big problems today in most
>>>communities, outside of the `hood. You're simply too out of touch.
>>>
>>So are you claiming only people "in the hood" (where ever that may be)
>>are pimping women, act sexually promiscuous or ignorant or are you
>>saying that it's only a problem with people "in the hood" and when
>>other people act in the same way it's not a problem?
>
>Yes, yes, yes and no.
Well, again you happen to be wrong.
von
---
There is no conversation that I can have that threatens my reality and I
don't see how anyone can live with such a precarious state of mind.
---
God isn't the problem, religion is. Something that doesn't exist
can't really be a problem. Worshiping something that doesn't exist
is an entirely different subect.
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TOPIC: This Land is Their Land, and We Are the Illegal Aliens
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6f24ab2b39ff1401
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:56 pm
From: gigo448@netscape.net
RAY S. ELIZONDO wrote:
> <gigo448@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:1144795156.195167.38760@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> > Hehh, If we let the Jews keep Israel, it's only fair
> > that American Indians get thier land back from the
> > US of A!
> >
> Have you visited one of the many Indian Casinos?
NO, but I hear tell they are the envy of those in Las Vegas.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 10:18 pm
From: Johannes v Ebersdorf
On 11 Apr 2006 17:03:04 -0700, "Angry Dave" <ddbarden@excite.com>
wrote:
>When Mexico gives thier country back to the Indians ... I might buy in.
Mexico IS an Indian country. Mexicans are the indigenous people.
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TOPIC: IMPEACH HIM AND THE CONGRESS, TOO!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6ea15b374f094ed
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 9:57 pm
From: "serwad"
http://www.freewayblogger.com/impeachment_project2.htm
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:09 pm
From: gigo448@netscape.net
The simplest solution is to just give the American
Indians back thier land.You wouldn't need to
Impeach anybody then. They would all simply
lose thier jobs and be replaced with Indians instead.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:12 pm
From: "Tom Donavan"
Serwad I say instaed of impeaching him lets incarceraate you. I think
that sounds like a fair idea for an Arab thief. Better yet we should
let King Fahd Bin Abdul Aziz chop your hands of for stealing from his
bank account.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:19 pm
From: gigo448@netscape.net
My biggest concern in Impeaching Bush, is who
ya gonna get to replace him? You Impeach
Bush, what kind of mess will you create from it?
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:23 pm
From: "Tom Donavan"
>gigo wrote:
>The simplest solution is to just give the American
>Indians back thier land.You wouldn't need to
>Impeach anybody then. They would all simply
>lose thier jobs and be replaced with Indians instead.
The Native American Indians are not anything like the Palestinians in
that they are proud to be Americans and are beneficial to our country
here in the USA with a desire to live in peace. They are not launching
rockets into innocent civilian neighborhoods like the Palestinians are
doing to Israelis, but rather many are in Iraq and Afghanistan serving
our government to the best of their ability. There are also some that
are Jews and live here and on Eretz Israel in peace.
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TOPIC: SEE THE HEROES! SCREAMING FOR HELP!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f4e4815dbdd97850
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 10:07 pm
From: "serwad"
http://www.teambio.org/2006/04/marines-under-attack/
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TOPIC: ISRAELI FASCIST MURDERERS!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/951289ee396059d1
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:09 pm
From: "Tom Donavan"
>serwad wrote:
>The truth is that Israeli population is diminishing day by day, as Jews live
>for their homelands. There are not enough troops to guard the wall and
>Kikeland's ports of entry, and it is just a matter of time before Kikeland
>collapses like a home made of cards!
The Israeli population is growing and expanding all over Eretz Israel
and the Jewish people are stronger day by day both mentally and
physically, because it's going to take a lot of strong enduring Jews
to rebuild the Temple after we get rid of the Dome of the Rock.
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TOPIC: Dance Of The Judas Goats!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/84825677927797a6
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 12 2006 2:12 am
From: "William Flax"
For a new perspective on the symbiotic relationship between the ADL and
David Duke:
http://pages.prodigy.net/krtq73aa/firebell.htm [A Fire Bell In The Night!]
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TOPIC: about the communist......
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/57a9d5b0351782fd
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:25 pm
From: "Damned-Virus-Data Miner providers"
Hello all,
The communist is actually running the government using 'that one'
that is the 'thissss' which also means kill......
fdrahadfh
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TOPIC: YOUNG JEW THIEVES
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d3eed7f76fb27a07
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:28 pm
From: "Tom Donavan"
The Muslims have more land to live on in Muslim countries than any
other people on earth and you are so greedy that you want more
especially the small little clean and beautiful land of Israel. Thanks
to the Jews she is a land flowing with milk and honey. When you lazy
hog bodied Arabs had her she was a swamp a follow just like your women.
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TOPIC: FACE THE WORLD YOU COWARDLY KILLERS
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/76ba4a6aaa76501d
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:29 pm
From: "Jim E"
"Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e1fl91$55o$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>
> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
> news:4a05r4Fqbd1eU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e1d74p$2d77$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:49t950FqcbjqU1@individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:b99_f.20744$
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since the US does not recognize any foreign courts jurisdiction the
>>>> entire issue is rather moot.
>>>
>>> Why, then, are you so hell bent on having Saddam Hussein face a foreign
>>> court.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You mean that being tried by his own countrymen is a foreign court?
>
> Of course it's a foreign court, you clot. It's been established up by the
> Yanks, and has bugger all to do with Iraq. They don't even have a
> Government, ferchrissake.
>
>
>
>
You goofs see American bogymen in you closet.
The court is Iraqi.
Moonbats, sheesh.
Jim E
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TOPIC: THERMITE USED IN WTC DEMOLITION
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b5dc051ba7c1a4a9
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:34 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:CKX_f.8631$yh.8004@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>
> "glugg" <glugg2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144800840.023292.288470@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> serwad wrote:
>>> Physicist says heat substance felled WTC
>>
>> The searing hatred and religious bigotry in moslem culture.
> True! But what does that have to do with the price of cheese? And why
> should I give a fuck for the bloody Jews/
>
We do give a shit about the islamizoids.
We want them all dead.
Death to islam.
Shit be upon allah.
Jim E
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:41 pm
From: "Tom Donavan"
>Jim E wrote:
>We do give a shit about the islamizoids.
>We want them all dead.
>Death to islam.
>Shit be upon allah.
I'm glad you you see things my way :-)
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TOPIC: Black's lynch mob mentality over alleged Duke assault
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ea6745f7001a01c6
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 9:36 pm
From: BC
Spob wrote:
> I assume many of you caught the bit on the news about the public
> "forum" NCCU where black residents expressed outrage over the handling
> of the so-called "rape" of the black stripper.
>
> Note that the ire of these blacks is fueled by nothing more than an
> allegation. They don't seem to be concerned with anything other than
> indulging their sense of injustice.
>
> So far, what's known is that the story of this 27-year-old "student"
> appears to be coming apart at the seams. She was supposedly "gang
> raped" yet no DNA from ANY of the players has been found on her. She
> claimed she got her injuries from being beaten - video shows she was
> already banged up when she got there.
>
> Kinda curious about the background of this "student" who shows up
> highly messed up to take off her clothes for money. It sounds to me
> that these guys are mostly guilty of stupid naivete by putting
> themselves in a position to be themselves victimized by some lowlifes.
> What, did they stiff her on the tip and she got pissed?
>
> The blacks expressed indignation that she was characterized as a
> stripper. Sorry folks, that's what she was there for, not a chemistry
> study group. She was there to take off her clothes, to sell her ass in
> one way or another.
>
> These are your "average" black citizens folks. These are the ones who
> are the first to cry "police brutality" any time a cop dares arrest a
> black criminal.
>
Do you really think anyone takes this Nazi propaganda seriously
anymore?
Come on. This isn't 1962. I mean, maybe you're stuck in the
era of lynchings and church burnings, but you obviously have
been living in a cave since then.
I love how you write as if what you say is patently convincing.
It's not.
I feel like I'm looking at missives from a pre-civil rights
time capsule.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 9:38 pm
From: BC
Voice Of Reason wrote:
> This is starting to sound like another Tawana Brawley hoax (a young
> black woman falsely claiming that a white man raped her). That case,
> nearly 20 years ago, helped propel a young Brooklyn rabble-rouser (and
> a former FBI "snitch") named Al Sharpton to fame, as he championed her
> case.
>
> Meanwhile, the brave Brawley fled NY when the accused man was cleared,
> and went into hiding out of state; if she ever sets foot in NY she
> will be arrested for pulling off that hoax.
>
> To this very day, Sharpton refuses to apologize for role in that mess.
> And that makes him a big hero in the `hood.
>
> Now this is an excellent chance for some Democrats to make their own
> "Sista Souljah" moment. In 1992, Bill Clinton was shrewd enough to
> take advantage of it (and it helped get him many votes from the
> middle), but alas, I doubt any Democrat today has the balls to try
> this manuever again.
>
>
> On 11 Apr 2006 15:34:30 -0700, "Spob"
> <pongespob_paresquants@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I assume many of you caught the bit on the news about the public
>>"forum" NCCU where black residents expressed outrage over the handling
>>of the so-called "rape" of the black stripper.
>>
>>Note that the ire of these blacks is fueled by nothing more than an
>>allegation. They don't seem to be concerned with anything other than
>>indulging their sense of injustice.
>>
>>So far, what's known is that the story of this 27-year-old "student"
>>appears to be coming apart at the seams. She was supposedly "gang
>>raped" yet no DNA from ANY of the players has been found on her. She
>>claimed she got her injuries from being beaten - video shows she was
>>already banged up when she got there.
>>
>>Kinda curious about the background of this "student" who shows up
>>highly messed up to take off her clothes for money. It sounds to me
>>that these guys are mostly guilty of stupid naivete by putting
>>themselves in a position to be themselves victimized by some lowlifes.
>>What, did they stiff her on the tip and she got pissed?
>>
>>The blacks expressed indignation that she was characterized as a
>>stripper. Sorry folks, that's what she was there for, not a chemistry
>>study group. She was there to take off her clothes, to sell her ass in
>>one way or another.
>>
>>These are your "average" black citizens folks. These are the ones who
>>are the first to cry "police brutality" any time a cop dares arrest a
>>black criminal.
>
>
A lot of white people like Al Sharpton, too, apparently.
I mean, you people haven't gotten out much, have you?
You are really out of touch.
Most "white" people these days have no interest in being
baited this way.
Shit I feel like I'm at an early sixties Klan rally, and
you don't seem to realize how much times have changed.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 9:39 pm
From: BC
Hal Henry wrote:
>
>
>>Note that the ire of these blacks is fueled by nothing more than an
>>allegation. They don't seem to be concerned with anything other than
>>indulging their sense of injustice.
>
>
>>These are your "average" black citizens folks. These are the ones who
>>are the first to cry "police brutality" any time a cop dares arrest a
>>black criminal.
>>
>
>
> Yours is a particularly stupid point of view, considering who's been
> lynching who over the past 8-10 generations.
>
> hh
>
>
Probably his daddy, and his granddaddy, and his great-granddaddy.
But you know, some of the worst ones have some "black" in their DNA.
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TOPIC: Iran has A Nuke
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/958f1b76e584a34e
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:38 pm
From: "Jim E"
"Salah Jafar" <codeman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3YV_f.5208$wH1.3541@trnddc03...
Iran announced today, it has developed enough uranium to build ten nuclear
bombs. Jooz what you going to do when the Arabs come for you,
Probably use some of their 200 warheads to turn Iran into a glowing hole.
In case you are to damn islamic (stupid) to notice, the Israeli warheads
come with delivery systems more sophisticated than wagons dragged by camels.
Jim E
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:39 pm
From: "Jim E"
"ysidro" <ysidro_mcguffog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:443c3f2d$0$6779$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Al Nakba wrote:
>> Iran's asslifting goat buggering mullahs will soon be turbanated..
>>
> Best you lay is some public transport timetables or buy a bicycle,
> because if Iran is attacked the worlds oil price is going to go into
> orbit.
Way cool, less traffic to compete with.
I get 55MPG.
Jim E
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:41 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Al Nakba" <williamhubbard@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
> news:1144805809.463205.144550@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Alcohol will work as fuel. Indy cars have run on it since 1953..
> SUUUURE! AT 23 BUCKS A LITER!
>
Alex, your ignorance is ever astounding.
Even Gray Goose doesn't cost that much.
How much for the pink flamingos this week alex.
Jim E
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:43 pm
From: "Jim E"
"Salah Jafar" <codeman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Q3Z_f.1997$7Z6.91@trnddc06...
Or we can use you Jooz, for the old fashion steam engine, where we put the
Jooz in real OVENS, not imaginary one. I want to see Jooz in OVENS, I Want
to see how he react.
SJ
First you being a brain dead camel humping raghead, will need to find
someone with the brains to build an oven.
Good luck finding any non rag who will even deal with your subhuman kind.
Jim E
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:45 pm
From: "Jim E"
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Israel is finished if US attacks Iran
>
Israel is the strongest nation in the ME.
They have kicked the arab states asses repeatedly.
Why do muzzys always scream empty threats when they are totally without a
clue?
Jim E
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TOPIC: Why do Muslims protest violently?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6af3f38f3678ffcc
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 12 2006 2:37 am
From: Ajanta
<http://www.indiacause.com/columns/OL_060411.htm>
Why do Muslims protest violently?
Prabhat Varun, April 11, 2006
More than a month has passed since the Muslims started agitating over
the caricatures of Prophet published in the Danish daily
Jyllands-Posten and several other European and American newspapers. The
world over Muslims are not calming down and are still engaged in
hooliganism, in the destruction of life and property in virtually every
corner of the world. Many say that this is justified, as the West is
always busy in denigrating Islam. Many say that though the West is
guilty of offending the all to tender sentiments of Islam, but Muslims
are not justified in protesting in the way they are doing. But things
have become hard for the apologists of Islam by the issuing of various
fatwas of beheading the cartoonists by various Muftis in various
corners of the world including Pakistan, Afghanistan and India.
Some Islamic apologists have got busy in proving that Islam does not
sanction this kind of violence and that even if someone slanders Islam,
it preaches peace. Nothing is farthest from the truth, as we shall see.
The ongoing turmoil in the world is a very organized and concentrated
effort of Muslims to censor the criticism of Islam. They take their
inspiration from the life of Prophet himself. There are several cases
in Prophet¹s life when he punished the critics of Islam with death.
Islam has managed to hold its sway over such large part of the
inhabited world all these centuries only because of the censorship it
has imposed on everyone. Here are some cases from Prophet¹s life, which
illustrate the kind of liberty he allowed to those who criticized him
and his beliefs.
Assassination of Asma
The first blood shed at Medina with the approval of Muhammad was a
woman¹s. Asma, daughter of Marwan, belonged to a family, which had not
as yet thrown off their ancestral pagan faith. She had five sons. Being
a poetess, she composed some couplets, after the battle of Badr,
criticizing her people of receiving and trusting a stranger, who had
risen against his own pagan people, and had slain the chief of them in
battle.
The verses quickly spread from mouth to mouth, and at last reached the
ears of Muslims. They were offended by this open and frank criticism of
Islam and Prophet Muhammad. Verses were reported to the Prophet, who
said aloud: will no one rid me of this daughter of Marwan?¹ One Umar
Ibn Adi¹ in order to show his zeal for Islam and the Prophet vowed
that he would kill the poetess.
That very night, he went to the poetess¹s house. She was sleeping with
her children the youngest, still at the breast. Stealthily, he removed
her suckling babe, and plunged his sword into her breast with such
force that it transfixed her to the couch.
Next morning, in the Mosque at prayer Muhammad said to the killer:
Have you slain the daughter of Marwan?¹ Yes¹, he answered. Is there
cause of apprehension?¹ asked the killer. None,¹ said Muhammad and
commented; a couple of goats will hardly knock their heads together
for it.¹ [See, The Life of Mahomet / Sir William Muir / page239]
There is yet another case when Prophet did not tolerate his criticism
and silenced yet another poet, or the journalists of those days.
Assassination of Abu Afak
Another murder was committed by the express authority of Muhammad. The
victim was a Jewish poet Abu Afak. He was above a hundred years of age.
He had composed some verses, which annoyed the Muslims. Who will rid
me of this petilent fellow?¹ said Muhammad to his followers. A convert,
Salim Ibn Umayr took charge of the assassination, and falling unawares
upon the aged Jew, while he slept in the courtyard outside his house,
killed him with the sword. The death shriek drew his neighbours to the
spot, but the killer escaped unrecognized, after committing the
treacherous murder.
These lawless and sanguinary acts alarmed Medina, and above all terror
crept over the hearts of the Jews. [See, The Life of Mahomet / Sir
William Muir / page,240]
There is yet another episode when Prophet smothered the freedom of
speech by getting a poet (read journalist) murdered in much a similar
way, the Muslims of today are trying to.
Assassination of Kab
The poet Kab Ib al-Ashraf was assassinated in July, 624 A.D. As we
have seen, Muhammad could not endure poets; so he indicated that the
man should be assassinated. Who will ease me of the son of Al-Ashraf?¹
Muhammad asked. Here am I; I will slay him¹ said son of Maslama and
explained to the Prophet that it would be necessary to resort to
cunning, trickery and lies. Muhammad saw no objection in deceit and
treachery, if objective could be achieved by these means. The next move
was to recruit accomplices, one of whom was a foster-brother of the
poet Kab.
On a night of bright moonlight they went to his house on the pretext of
holding a meeting, Muhammad himself going with the gang of assassins,
for the part of the way and giving them his blessings. They called him
out, posing as unhappy followers of the Prophet. Then they lured Kab
from his refuge. His bride warned him not to go. But Kab went out with
them for friendly discussions. They wandered along. Suddenly the
traitor seized his hair, and dragging him to the ground and Shouted,
³Slay him! Slay the enemy of God!² Drawing their swords, they fell upon
the victim.
Assassins shouted, the well known Takbir¹, Allah-O-Akbar¹. Muhammad
hearing from a distance knew that their work had been successfully
accomplished. At the gate of the Mosque he met them saying: Welcome¹
The assassins put the ghastly head of poet Kab at the Prophet
Muhammad¹s feet. Then Muhammad praised God for what had been
accomplished. [See, The Life of Mahomet / Sir William Muir / page,248]
So, we get enough proofs from Prophet¹s own life, which illustrate how
tolerant he himself was of the criticism of himself and his beliefs.
Muslims have been especially vigilant of poets, journalists,
historians, artists and writers, because these are the persons who are
best equipped to perceive and express the truth. Muslims have always
been involved in suppressing any voice of dissent and every type of
freedom of expression by whatever means available. The reason that any
type of painting, sculpture and music is explicitly forbidden in Islam
is that the art is superbly capable of taking out the innermost and
suppressed thoughts to the fore and Islam has never been afraid more of
anything other than rational enquiry and freedom of speech and
expression.
Islamic apologists say that this is just a stray and modern phenomenon
and is not approved by Islam. But as is shown above, it is an integral
part of the strategy of Islam. As terrorism is not a stray phenomenon,
but the mainstream of Islamic ideology, and as the terrorists are not
some misguided youth but the representatives of the majority of
Muslims, so the censorship of freedom of expression is not a modern
phenomenon but an age old strategy of Islam, invented by Prophet
himself, existent from the very beginning of Islam and continuous
throughout the Islamic history.
Islam and its armed propagators, Jehadis have been continuously
involved in censoring the freedom of speech and assassinating all those
who criticize Islam. It happened during the life of Prophet and was
sanctioned by him. It happened in Iran, when some Sufis and scholars
like Ali Sina and Ibn Warraq rose against the non-spirituality and
tyranny of Islam. All those Iranian Sufis and scholars were brutally
massacred by the zealous Muslims and their movement was ruthlessly
suppressed. The very word assassin¹ had its origin in the history of
suppression by Islam of freedom of speech and expression.
Arabic Hashishin, member of Nizari Ismailites, was a religio-political
Islamic sect dating from the 11th to the 13th century and known, for
murdering its enemies as a religious duty. The Arabic name means
³hashish-smoker² refers to the Assassins¹ alleged practice of taking
hashish to induce ecstatic visions of paradise before setting out to
face martyrdom. Thus the nexus between drugs and Islamic terrorism is
not a modern phenomenon, but its roots are deep and historical.
After the death of Fatimid Caliph al-Mustanisr (1094),
Hasan-e-Sabbahand some Iranian allies captured the hill fortress
Ala-mut near Kazvin, Iran. From this center, by the end of 11th
century, Hasan as grandmaster or leader of the sect, commanded the
network of strongholds all over Iran and Iraq, a corps of devoted
terrorists, and an unknown number of agents in enemy camps and cities,
who claimed many victims among the generals and statesmen of the
Abbasid caliphate, as well some caliphs. At the beginning of 12th
century Assassin activities were extended to Syria.
Assassin power came to an end as the Mongols under Hulegu captured
Assassin castles in Iran one by one until in1256 Alamut itself fell.
Henceforth the sect stagnated as a minor heresy. Its followers are
still to be found in Syria, Iran and Central Asia, with the largest
group in India and Pakistan, where they are known as Khojas and owe
allegiance to Agha Khan. The term ³assassin² was brought by the
crusaders from Syria to Europe, where it acquired its present meaning
of one who murders a politically important person either from hire or
from fanatical motives. [The New Encyclopaedia Britannica/ Vol. 1,
Micropaedia/ page 640, 15th edition 1997]
This phenomenon was not limited to Persia. It has been happening all
along in every part of the world, only if we keep our eyes open to see
it. Swami Dayanand was poisoned by his own Muslim servant, because of
former¹s criticism of Islam. Swami Shraddhananda was murdered in his
bed by a devout Muslim, also because he was critical of Islam and was
brave enough to voice his criticism publicly. Pandit Lekhram was
murdered because he had allegedly made mockery of Prophet. Do we see
any link between this murder and the call of the UP Minister, Haji
Yaqoob Qureishi of giving 51 crore to the person who will behead the
Danish cartoons?
This event is not new for Europe. More recently the Dutch filmmaker Van
Gogh was brutally beheaded in public for making a film critical of the
position of women in Islam. With his assassination the bell was rung
that Islam with its terror tactics has arrived in Europe and Americas,
and after Asia and Africa it is now the turn of Europe and America of
being deprived of freedom of speech and expression by the brutal terror
tactics of Islam. And what was the fault of Van Gogh? The scriptwriter
of his film was an ex-Muslim woman, who was critical of the deplorable
position of women in Islam. The message was clear. Islam is ready to
execute anybody who is even remotely critical of its ideology and
practices. And Muslims responding to this call of Jehad are not few.
So the ongoing crisis about Prophet¹s caricatures is not an isolated
and modern phenomenon but has deep roots in Quran, the life of Prophet
and Islamic history. It is a continuous and ongoing process of the
imposition of censorship on any criticism of Islam. And as we have
seen, the examples which illustrate this point of view are not few.
If we do not identify this terror tactics of Muslims as the integral
strategy of Islam and work for its prevention then soon we will lose
every kind of freedom, including that of expression and whole world
will be plunged in the barbarity and savagery of the Dark Middle Ages.
Prabhat Varun
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