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* Marines Suffer 2 Dead, 22 Wounded in Iraq - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/919ae30da2472f8b
* KIKE ABRAMOFF, THE SHITWAD! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/30ff46aed373bca7
* Iran issues stark military warning to United States - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7879b0f3adc1feea
* AMERICA IS TRAPPED! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Pitt: How Crazy Are They? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Wal Mart to stop gun sales in a third of it's US stores - 3 messages, 2
authors
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* WTF???!!! Omaha segregates schools into Black, White, Hispanic - 3 messages,
1 author
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* Colorado: Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout. - 4 messages, 1 author
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* Israeli settlers conspire to turn the Ibrahimi Mosque into a synagogue - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f5098ad51f6c338a
* Muslims taught rape is OK - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Shocking Pictures from Turkey! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Ali Asker declares: "We are the TERRORISTS..." - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f21e3074cd1c58ad
* Ahmadinejad called Israel a "rotten, dried tree" that will be annihilated by
"one storm." - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a8fac48044b37ffd
* More Alex DROOL - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b6199f1c06fa8f48

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TOPIC: Marines Suffer 2 Dead, 22 Wounded in Iraq
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/919ae30da2472f8b
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:42 pm
From: "Möbius Pretzel"

Move along people. Nothing to see here. Just more last throes.

NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:

> Marines Suffer 2 Dead, 22 Wounded in Iraq
>
> AP - Apr 14, 2006
> http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ?SITE=ILEDW&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
>
> Marines Suffer 2 Dead, 22 Wounded in Iraq
>
> By VANESSA ARRINGTON
> Associated Press Writer
>
> BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Two U.S. Marines were killed and 22 wounded - two of
> them critically - in fighting in western Iraq, the U.S. military said
> Saturday. It was the biggest number of American casualties reported from a
> single engagement in weeks.
>
> A U.S. statement said the casualties were suffered Thursday as a result of
> "enemy action" in Anbar province but gave no specific location or details of
> the fighting.
>
> One Marine was killed "at the scene of the attack," the statement said.
> Another Marine died at a medical facility in Taqqadum, it added.
>
> Eight of the wounded were flown to the main U.S. hospital in Balad. Two were
> listed in critical condition and six were reported as stable, the statement
> said. The others were taken to a U.S. clinic at Camp Fallujah, where four
> were hospitalized for observation.
>
> "Our hearts go out to the families of the dead and wounded Marines," said
> Marine spokesman Lt. Col. Bryan Salas. "Our wounded Marines are receiving
> the best care available, and we look forward to their speedy recovery."
>
> U.S. casualties have begun to rise this month following a sharp drop in
> March, which saw the lowest number of American dead in Iraq since February
> 2004. Last month, 31 U.S. service members died in Iraq, but fatalities in
> April have already passed 40.
>
> Meanwhile, dozens of Iraqi police remained missing and nine were dead after
> insurgents ambushed their convoy Thursday evening as they left a U.S. base
> where they had picked up new vehicles, Iraqi and U.S. officials said.
>
> Brig. Gen. Abbas Maadal complained that the Americans refused to allow the
> police to spend the night at the base, just north of the capital. But U.S.
> spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Johnson said no such request had been made and that
> the Iraqis had not asked for American troops to guard the convoy.
>
> The attack, the deadliest against police here in months, began about 7:30
> p.m. Thursday as a convoy of 109 police was traveling through a sparsely
> populated area near the Taji base heading back to Najaf, 100 miles to the
> south, Maadal said.
>
> Police heard cries of "Allahu akbar," or God is great, and "long live jihad"
> broadcast by loudspeaker from a nearby mosque, Maadal said. Suddenly
> insurgents, including some women, opened fire and triggered a roadside bomb.
>
> Maadal said 37 policemen returned to Najaf late Friday and about 20 more
> were en route. About 40 remained unaccounted for. At least nine policemen
> were killed and three of the 12 vehicles were heavily damaged, Johnson said.
> One insurgent was wounded and five were arrested, he added.
>
> Although no U.S. troops were with the Iraqi convoy when it came under
> attack, Johnson said American forces responded with helicopter gunships and
> ground troops.
>
> "Once the attack occurred we did respond," he said. "We helped engage and
> brought this situation under control."
>
> A U.S. patrol had passed along the same route shortly before the Iraqis and
> called for help when they heard the firing, Johnson said.
>
> It was unclear why the insurgents allowed the Americans to pass by without
> attacking them. In recent months, insurgents have shifted their attacks to
> Iraqi forces, which have less firepower than the Americans.
>
> The overwhelming majority of police in Najaf are Shiites, and the area where
> the attack occurred is populated mostly by Sunnis.
>
> Sectarian violence has worsened in Iraq since the Feb. 22 bombing of a
> Shiite shrine in Samarra. At least 11 people were killed Friday, including
> four who died in a pair of roadside bombings outside two Sunni mosques in
> Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, police said.
>
> One civilian died when a suicide bomber targeted a British patrol south of
> Basra, wounding four Britons, police and British authorities said. Two
> brothers were also gunned down in front of their elderly mother, who was
> wounded when assailants stormed into their home in a mostly Shiite area of
> Baghdad, police said.
>
> In the northern city of Mosul, at least seven people were wounded in another
> suicide car bomb attack on a police station, police said. Police saw the
> vehicle coming and fired at the driver, preventing him from entering the
> compound, an official said.
>
> The others died in bombings and a shooting in Baghdad and Mosul, police
> said.
>
> Delays in forming a new national unity government four months after
> parliament elections has sharpened sectarian divisions.
>
> Sunni and Kurdish opposition to the Shiite choice of Prime Minister Ibrahim
> al-Jaafari for another term has blocked progress toward a new government.
>
> Leaders of the Shiite alliance, the dominant bloc in the legislature, said
> they would attend Monday's parliament session, called to break the political
> logjam. Shiite politicians had earlier suggested they would boycott the
> session unless the dispute over al-Jaafari as well as other political posts
> that require parliamentary approval were resolved first.
>
> But Shiite leaders said Friday they would attend even if no agreement had
> been reached on al-Jaafari or the other posts.
>
> "We will meet Saturday and Sunday to discuss the matters of the prime
> minister nomination and the distribution of key posts," said Sabah al-Saedi,
> a Shiite politician. "We are going to attend Monday, regardless of what
> happens at the internal meetings."
>
> Ridha Jawad Taqi, a leading figure of the biggest Shiite party, also said
> the alliance plans to attend Monday's meeting.
>
> In an interview Friday with a British television station, al-Jaafari
> repeated that he would not step down.
>
> "I was the legitimate and democratic choice," he told Britain's Channel 4
> News. "I wouldn't have accepted the responsibility if I thought it was
> against the will of the people. I don't see how I could repay my people's
> faith in me by letting them down."
>
> Although the parliament session may produce no deals at all, it is seen as a
> sign that the parties are committed to forming a unity government.
> Boycotting it would make the Shiites appear obstructionists.
>
> Voters chose the 275-member assembly on Dec. 15, but the legislature met
> briefly only once last month. The lack of progress has frustrated Iraqis,
> especially as steady violence - much of it sectarian - continues to claim
> hundreds of lives and threatens to push the country into a large-scale civil
> war.
>
> © 2006 The Associated Press.
>
>
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 9:41 pm
From: "Möbius Pretzel"

Move along people. Nothing to see here. Just more last throes.

NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:

> Marines Suffer 2 Dead, 22 Wounded in Iraq
>
> AP - Apr 14, 2006
> http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ?SITE=ILEDW&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
>
> Marines Suffer 2 Dead, 22 Wounded in Iraq
>
> By VANESSA ARRINGTON
> Associated Press Writer
>
> BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Two U.S. Marines were killed and 22 wounded - two of
> them critically - in fighting in western Iraq, the U.S. military said
> Saturday. It was the biggest number of American casualties reported from a
> single engagement in weeks.
>
> A U.S. statement said the casualties were suffered Thursday as a result of
> "enemy action" in Anbar province but gave no specific location or details of
> the fighting.
>
> One Marine was killed "at the scene of the attack," the statement said.
> Another Marine died at a medical facility in Taqqadum, it added.
>
> Eight of the wounded were flown to the main U.S. hospital in Balad. Two were
> listed in critical condition and six were reported as stable, the statement
> said. The others were taken to a U.S. clinic at Camp Fallujah, where four
> were hospitalized for observation.
>
> "Our hearts go out to the families of the dead and wounded Marines," said
> Marine spokesman Lt. Col. Bryan Salas. "Our wounded Marines are receiving
> the best care available, and we look forward to their speedy recovery."
>
> U.S. casualties have begun to rise this month following a sharp drop in
> March, which saw the lowest number of American dead in Iraq since February
> 2004. Last month, 31 U.S. service members died in Iraq, but fatalities in
> April have already passed 40.
>
> Meanwhile, dozens of Iraqi police remained missing and nine were dead after
> insurgents ambushed their convoy Thursday evening as they left a U.S. base
> where they had picked up new vehicles, Iraqi and U.S. officials said.
>
> Brig. Gen. Abbas Maadal complained that the Americans refused to allow the
> police to spend the night at the base, just north of the capital. But U.S.
> spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Johnson said no such request had been made and that
> the Iraqis had not asked for American troops to guard the convoy.
>
> The attack, the deadliest against police here in months, began about 7:30
> p.m. Thursday as a convoy of 109 police was traveling through a sparsely
> populated area near the Taji base heading back to Najaf, 100 miles to the
> south, Maadal said.
>
> Police heard cries of "Allahu akbar," or God is great, and "long live jihad"
> broadcast by loudspeaker from a nearby mosque, Maadal said. Suddenly
> insurgents, including some women, opened fire and triggered a roadside bomb.
>
> Maadal said 37 policemen returned to Najaf late Friday and about 20 more
> were en route. About 40 remained unaccounted for. At least nine policemen
> were killed and three of the 12 vehicles were heavily damaged, Johnson said.
> One insurgent was wounded and five were arrested, he added.
>
> Although no U.S. troops were with the Iraqi convoy when it came under
> attack, Johnson said American forces responded with helicopter gunships and
> ground troops.
>
> "Once the attack occurred we did respond," he said. "We helped engage and
> brought this situation under control."
>
> A U.S. patrol had passed along the same route shortly before the Iraqis and
> called for help when they heard the firing, Johnson said.
>
> It was unclear why the insurgents allowed the Americans to pass by without
> attacking them. In recent months, insurgents have shifted their attacks to
> Iraqi forces, which have less firepower than the Americans.
>
> The overwhelming majority of police in Najaf are Shiites, and the area where
> the attack occurred is populated mostly by Sunnis.
>
> Sectarian violence has worsened in Iraq since the Feb. 22 bombing of a
> Shiite shrine in Samarra. At least 11 people were killed Friday, including
> four who died in a pair of roadside bombings outside two Sunni mosques in
> Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, police said.
>
> One civilian died when a suicide bomber targeted a British patrol south of
> Basra, wounding four Britons, police and British authorities said. Two
> brothers were also gunned down in front of their elderly mother, who was
> wounded when assailants stormed into their home in a mostly Shiite area of
> Baghdad, police said.
>
> In the northern city of Mosul, at least seven people were wounded in another
> suicide car bomb attack on a police station, police said. Police saw the
> vehicle coming and fired at the driver, preventing him from entering the
> compound, an official said.
>
> The others died in bombings and a shooting in Baghdad and Mosul, police
> said.
>
> Delays in forming a new national unity government four months after
> parliament elections has sharpened sectarian divisions.
>
> Sunni and Kurdish opposition to the Shiite choice of Prime Minister Ibrahim
> al-Jaafari for another term has blocked progress toward a new government.
>
> Leaders of the Shiite alliance, the dominant bloc in the legislature, said
> they would attend Monday's parliament session, called to break the political
> logjam. Shiite politicians had earlier suggested they would boycott the
> session unless the dispute over al-Jaafari as well as other political posts
> that require parliamentary approval were resolved first.
>
> But Shiite leaders said Friday they would attend even if no agreement had
> been reached on al-Jaafari or the other posts.
>
> "We will meet Saturday and Sunday to discuss the matters of the prime
> minister nomination and the distribution of key posts," said Sabah al-Saedi,
> a Shiite politician. "We are going to attend Monday, regardless of what
> happens at the internal meetings."
>
> Ridha Jawad Taqi, a leading figure of the biggest Shiite party, also said
> the alliance plans to attend Monday's meeting.
>
> In an interview Friday with a British television station, al-Jaafari
> repeated that he would not step down.
>
> "I was the legitimate and democratic choice," he told Britain's Channel 4
> News. "I wouldn't have accepted the responsibility if I thought it was
> against the will of the people. I don't see how I could repay my people's
> faith in me by letting them down."
>
> Although the parliament session may produce no deals at all, it is seen as a
> sign that the parties are committed to forming a unity government.
> Boycotting it would make the Shiites appear obstructionists.
>
> Voters chose the 275-member assembly on Dec. 15, but the legislature met
> briefly only once last month. The lack of progress has frustrated Iraqis,
> especially as steady violence - much of it sectarian - continues to claim
> hundreds of lives and threatens to push the country into a large-scale civil
> war.
>
> © 2006 The Associated Press.
>
>
> *
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TOPIC: KIKE ABRAMOFF, THE SHITWAD!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/30ff46aed373bca7
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 11:42 pm
From: "serwad"

"Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
news:4ab69uFs9s4eU1@individual.net...
>
> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:BUY%f.662$iB2.323@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>> Meet Mr. Republican: Jack Abramoff
>
>
> The man who will write world policy for years to come.

IN THE POKEY!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 9:31 pm
From: "Jim E"

"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:%UZ%f.1759$t61.597@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
> news:4ab69uFs9s4eU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:BUY%f.662$iB2.323@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>> Meet Mr. Republican: Jack Abramoff
>>
>>
>> The man who will write world policy for years to come.
>
> IN THE POKEY!
>

Does it matter where the policy is postmarked from?

How much for the pink flamingos this week alex?

Jim E

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TOPIC: Iran issues stark military warning to United States
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7879b0f3adc1feea
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 3:44 am
From: NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org

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Iran issues stark military warning to United States

Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit

AFP - Apr 14, 2006
http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/060414191647.gkbeufd2.html

Iran issues stark military warning to United States

TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran said it could defeat any American military action over
its controversial nuclear drive, in one of the Islamic regime's boldest
challenges yet to the United States.

"You can start a war but it won't be you who finishes it," said General
Yahya Rahim Safavi, the head of the Revolutionary Guards and among the
regime's most powerful figures.

"The Americans know better than anyone that their troops in the region and
in Iraq are vulnerable. I would advise them not to commit such a strategic
error," he told reporters on the sidelines of a pro-Palestinian conference
in Tehran.

The United States accuses Iran of using an atomic energy drive as a mask for
weapons development. Last weekend US news reports said President George W.
Bush's administration was refining plans for preventive strikes on Iran's
nuclear facilities.

"I would advise them to first get out of their quagmire in Iraq before
getting into an even bigger one," General Safavi said with a grin.

"We have American forces in the region under total surveillance. For the
past two years, we have been ready for any scenario, whether sanctions or an
attack."

Iran announced this week it had successfully enriched uranium to make
nuclear fuel, despite a UN Security Council demand for the sensitive work to
be halted by April 28.

The Islamic regime says it only wants to generate atomic energy, but
enrichment can be extended to make the fissile core of a nuclear warhead --
something the United States is convinced that "axis of evil" member Iran
wants to acquire.

At a Friday prayer sermon in Tehran, senior cleric Ayatollah Ahmad Janati
simply branded the US as a "decaying power" lacking the "stamina" to block
Iran's ambitions.

And hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told AFP that a US push for tough
United Nations sanctions was of "no importance."

"She is free to say whatever she wants," the president replied when asked to
respond to comments by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice highlighting
part of the UN charter that provides for sanctions backed up by the threat
of military action.

"We give no importance to her comments," he said with a broad smile.

On Thursday, Rice said that faced with Iran's intransigence, the United
States "will look at the full range of options available to the United
Nations."

"There is no doubt that Iran continues to defy the will of the international
community," Rice said, after Iran also dismissed a personal appeal from the
UN atomic watchdog chief Mohamed ElBaradei.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chief must give a report at
the end of April on Iranian compliance with the Security Council demand. In
Tehran he said that after three years of investigations Iran's activities
were "still hazy and not very clear."

Although the United States has been prodding the council to take a tough
stand against the Islamic republic, including possible sanctions, it has run
into opposition from veto-wielding members Russia and China.

Representatives of the five permanent members of the Security Council plus
Germany are to meet in Moscow Tuesday to discuss the crisis.

In seeking to deter international action, Iran has been playing up its oil
wealth, its military might in strategic Gulf waters and its influence across
the region -- such as in Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories.

At the Tehran conference, Iran continued to thumb its nose at the United
States and Israel.

"The Zionist regime is an injustice and by its very nature a permanent
threat," Ahmadinejad told the gathering of regime officials, visiting
Palestinian militant leaders and foreign sympathizers.

"Whether you like it or not, the Zionist regime is on the road to being
eliminated," said Ahmadinejad, whose regime does not recognise Israel and
who drew international condemnation last year when he said Israel should be
"wiped off the map."

Unfazed by his critics, the hardliner went on to repeat his controversial
stance on the Holocaust.

"If there is serious doubt over the Holocaust, there is no doubt over the
catastrophe and Holocaust being faced by the Palestinians," said the
president, who had previously dismissed as a "myth" the killing of an
estimated six million Jews by the Nazis and their allies during World War
II.

"I tell the governments who support Zionism to ... let the migrants (Jews)
return to their countries of origin. If you think you owe them something,
give them some of your land," he said.

Iran's turbaned supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, also accused the
United States of seeking to place the entire region under Israeli control.

"The plots by the American government against Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon
aimed at governing the Middle East with the control of the Zionist regime
will not succeed," Khamenei said.

There was no immediate reaction from Washington, but French Foreign Minister
Philippe Douste-Blazy severely condemned Ahmadinejad for his latest remarks
on Israel.

"As I have had occasion to do before, when the Iranian president made
similar statements, I condemn these inacceptable remarks in the strongest
possible terms," Douste-Blazy said in a statement.

"Israel's right to exist and the reality of the Holocaust should not be
disputed," he added.

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 9:06 pm
From: "Möbius Pretzel"

NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:

> Iran issues stark military warning to United States
>
> AFP - Apr 14, 2006
> http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/060414191647.gkbeufd2.html
>
> Iran issues stark military warning to United States
>
> TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran said it could defeat any American military action over
> its controversial nuclear drive, in one of the Islamic regime's boldest
> challenges yet to the United States.

Bush don't care. He's wants bring on the 'rapture'.

> "You can start a war but it won't be you who finishes it," said General
> Yahya Rahim Safavi, the head of the Revolutionary Guards and among the
> regime's most powerful figures.

"Bring 'em on' Bush is too retarded to realize this
and he sure as Hell ain't gonna start listening to his
military commanders now...

> "The Americans know better than anyone that their troops in the region and
> in Iraq are vulnerable. I would advise them not to commit such a strategic
> error," he told reporters on the sidelines of a pro-Palestinian conference
> in Tehran.

As Bush as proven time and time again
he doesn't give a shit about U,S. troops.

U.S. troops = cannon fodder.

> The United States accuses Iran of using an atomic energy drive as a mask for
> weapons development. Last weekend US news reports said President George W.
> Bush's administration was refining plans for preventive strikes on Iran's
> nuclear facilities.

Let the 'rapture' begin.

> "I would advise them to first get out of their quagmire in Iraq before
> getting into an even bigger one," General Safavi said with a grin.

Hey this guy makes a lot of sense.

> "We have American forces in the region under total surveillance. For the
> past two years, we have been ready for any scenario, whether sanctions or an
> attack."

Bush replies, "U.S. troops = cannon fodder. I don't care."

> Iran announced this week it had successfully enriched uranium to make
> nuclear fuel, despite a UN Security Council demand for the sensitive work to
> be halted by April 28.
>
> The Islamic regime says it only wants to generate atomic energy, but
> enrichment can be extended to make the fissile core of a nuclear warhead --
> something the United States is convinced that "axis of evil" member Iran
> wants to acquire.
>
> At a Friday prayer sermon in Tehran, senior cleric Ayatollah Ahmad Janati
> simply branded the US as a "decaying power" lacking the "stamina" to block
> Iran's ambitions.
>
> And hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told AFP that a US push for tough
> United Nations sanctions was of "no importance."
>
> "She is free to say whatever she wants," the president replied when asked to
> respond to comments by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice highlighting
> part of the UN charter that provides for sanctions backed up by the threat
> of military action.
>
> "We give no importance to her comments," he said with a broad smile.

And why should he?

;)

> On Thursday, Rice said that faced with Iran's intransigence, the United
> States "will look at the full range of options available to the United
> Nations."

Bless Iran's power plant and wish them luck.

> In seeking to deter international action, Iran has been playing up its oil
> wealth, its military might in strategic Gulf waters and its influence across
> the region -- such as in Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories.

And born loser Bush, has been systemactically weakening the American
military
and economy.

> At the Tehran conference, Iran continued to thumb its nose at the United
> States and Israel.

> "The Zionist regime is an injustice and by its very nature a permanent
> threat," Ahmadinejad told the gathering of regime officials, visiting
> Palestinian militant leaders and foreign sympathizers.

True.

> "Whether you like it or not, the Zionist regime is on the road to being
> eliminated," said Ahmadinejad, whose regime does not recognise Israel and
> who drew international condemnation last year when he said Israel should be
> "wiped off the map."
>
> Unfazed by his critics, the hardliner went on to repeat his controversial
> stance on the Holocaust.
>
> "If there is serious doubt over the Holocaust, there is no doubt over the
> catastrophe and Holocaust being faced by the Palestinians," said the
> president, who had previously dismissed as a "myth" the killing of an
> estimated six million Jews by the Nazis and their allies during World War
> II.
>
> "I tell the governments who support Zionism to ... let the migrants (Jews)
> return to their countries of origin. If you think you owe them something,
> give them some of your land," he said.
>
> Iran's turbaned supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, also accused the
> United States of seeking to place the entire region under Israeli control.
>
> "The plots by the American government against Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon
> aimed at governing the Middle East with the control of the Zionist regime
> will not succeed," Khamenei said.

Even with failure, lunatic Bush leading the way?

LOL!

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 9:06 pm
From: "Möbius Pretzel"

NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:

> Iran issues stark military warning to United States
>
> AFP - Apr 14, 2006
> http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/060414191647.gkbeufd2.html
>
> Iran issues stark military warning to United States
>
> TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran said it could defeat any American military action over
> its controversial nuclear drive, in one of the Islamic regime's boldest
> challenges yet to the United States.

Bush don't care. He's wants to bring on the 'rapture'.

> "You can start a war but it won't be you who finishes it," said General
> Yahya Rahim Safavi, the head of the Revolutionary Guards and among the
> regime's most powerful figures.

"Bring 'em on' Bush is too retarded to realize this
and he sure as Hell ain't gonna start listening to his
military commanders now...

> "The Americans know better than anyone that their troops in the region and
> in Iraq are vulnerable. I would advise them not to commit such a strategic
> error," he told reporters on the sidelines of a pro-Palestinian conference
> in Tehran.

As Bush as proven time and time again
he doesn't give a shit about U,S. troops.

U.S. troops = cannon fodder.

> The United States accuses Iran of using an atomic energy drive as a mask for
> weapons development. Last weekend US news reports said President George W.
> Bush's administration was refining plans for preventive strikes on Iran's
> nuclear facilities.

Let the 'rapture' begin.

> "I would advise them to first get out of their quagmire in Iraq before
> getting into an even bigger one," General Safavi said with a grin.

Hey this guy makes a lot of sense.

> "We have American forces in the region under total surveillance. For the
> past two years, we have been ready for any scenario, whether sanctions or an
> attack."

Bush replies, "U.S. troops = cannon fodder. I don't care."

> Iran announced this week it had successfully enriched uranium to make
> nuclear fuel, despite a UN Security Council demand for the sensitive work to
> be halted by April 28.
>
> The Islamic regime says it only wants to generate atomic energy, but
> enrichment can be extended to make the fissile core of a nuclear warhead --
> something the United States is convinced that "axis of evil" member Iran
> wants to acquire.
>
> At a Friday prayer sermon in Tehran, senior cleric Ayatollah Ahmad Janati
> simply branded the US as a "decaying power" lacking the "stamina" to block
> Iran's ambitions.
>
> And hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told AFP that a US push for tough
> United Nations sanctions was of "no importance."
>
> "She is free to say whatever she wants," the president replied when asked to
> respond to comments by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice highlighting
> part of the UN charter that provides for sanctions backed up by the threat
> of military action.
>
> "We give no importance to her comments," he said with a broad smile.

And why should he?

;)

> On Thursday, Rice said that faced with Iran's intransigence, the United
> States "will look at the full range of options available to the United
> Nations."

Bless Iran's power plant and wish them luck.

> In seeking to deter international action, Iran has been playing up its oil
> wealth, its military might in strategic Gulf waters and its influence across
> the region -- such as in Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories.

And born loser Bush, has been systemactically weakening the American
military
and economy.

> At the Tehran conference, Iran continued to thumb its nose at the United
> States and Israel.

> "The Zionist regime is an injustice and by its very nature a permanent
> threat," Ahmadinejad told the gathering of regime officials, visiting
> Palestinian militant leaders and foreign sympathizers.

True.

> "Whether you like it or not, the Zionist regime is on the road to being
> eliminated," said Ahmadinejad, whose regime does not recognise Israel and
> who drew international condemnation last year when he said Israel should be
> "wiped off the map."
>
> Unfazed by his critics, the hardliner went on to repeat his controversial
> stance on the Holocaust.
>
> "If there is serious doubt over the Holocaust, there is no doubt over the
> catastrophe and Holocaust being faced by the Palestinians," said the
> president, who had previously dismissed as a "myth" the killing of an
> estimated six million Jews by the Nazis and their allies during World War
> II.
>
> "I tell the governments who support Zionism to ... let the migrants (Jews)
> return to their countries of origin. If you think you owe them something,
> give them some of your land," he said.
>
> Iran's turbaned supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, also accused the
> United States of seeking to place the entire region under Israeli control.
>
> "The plots by the American government against Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon
> aimed at governing the Middle East with the control of the Zionist regime
> will not succeed," Khamenei said.

Even with failure, lunatic Bush leading the way?

LOL!

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TOPIC: AMERICA IS TRAPPED!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6dbf260fc6bf2840
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 3:46 am
From: "NagaEmas"

Allah is stronger than blood!

"dimethyltryptamine" <dmt@mckenna.org> wrote in message
news:1kZ%f.69860$dW3.33346@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> Bang Adil wrote...
>> Does America realize that it is now TRAPPED between TWO SHIITES, IRAN
>> and IRAK (majority in Iraq)...?????
>
> Yes, and Bush should have known the trouble it would cause to overthrow
> a despotic sunni dictator and allow Iraq's shi't majority to align with
> hostile shi't Iran. Bush SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, whether he can be held
> responsible for the cocaine-induced stupor that impaired his judgement
> is another matter.

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TOPIC: Pitt: How Crazy Are They?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d0adc544b88554b1
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:47 pm
From: "wayne_s_noches@yahoo.com"

How Crazy Are They?

By William Rivers Pitt

I had a debate with my boss last night about Sy Hersh's terrifying New
Yorker article describing Bush administration plans to attack Iran,
potentially with nuclear weapons. After reading the Hersh piece, my
boss was
understandably worried, describing his reaction to the article in
road-to-Damascus-revelation terms. They're going to do this, he said.

I told my boss that I couldn't believe it was possible the Bush
administration would do this. I ran through all the reasons why an
attack on
Iran, especially with any kind of nuclear weaponry, would be the height
of
folly.

Iran, unlike Iraq, has a formidable military. They own the high ground
over the Persian Gulf and have deployed missile batteries all
throughout the
mountains along the shore. Those missile batteries, I told him, include
the
Sunburn missile, which can travel in excess of Mach 2 and can spoof
Aegis
radar systems. Every American warship in the Gulf, including the
carrier
group currently deployed there, would be ducks on the pond.

-----------------

Quite true and very scary.

We were able to invade Iraq because we could mass soldiers in Kuwait.

One of the reasons we limited our involvement to less than 200,000,
when many generals said we needed a force much larger, was the
logistical problem of getting that many soldiers into Iraq. Remember
Turkey said no to allowing an invasion from their soil.

So the only way we can invade Iran is through Iraq and we would have to
take some of our very tired and fatigued soldier and send them into
Iran from Iraq.

Mr Pitt mentions the Shiites No doubt they will try to interfere with
this invansion including destroying roads and bridges necessary for the
assault.

We could not mass troops in secret and they would simply get on their
cell phones and inform Iran and everyone else where the troops were
massing.

They may even serve as human shields and stand directly in the way of
any invasion.

We could send missles from ships and from Iraq. But as soon as they
Iranians take out a few ships there goes all our logistic support not
only for the Iran invasion but for soldiers in Iran.

We could launch weapons from Iraq but Iran would then believe that
would be justified in firing back at Iraq (most probably at the
non-Sunni regions) and cause massive death and destruction to an
already weakened infra-structure.

The green zone in Iraq would be a likely target and it would only take
a couple of direct hits to completely destroy that region.

There are enough supporters in Iraq of the insurgency to frustrate our
efforts at pacification. No doubt these same supporters would
gleefully tell Iran where to aim their missles to strike where our
soldiers and our supplies are.

And one other very scary thing: if we were on the brink of some
invasion, might that just tip the balance in the mind of someone who
has access to nuclear weapons to sell one or more of them to Iran?

It is very likely that the Germans would forbid the use of air bases on
their soil for this operation. The German people might mass outside
the airbases and prevent supplies from reaching there and may even try
to force their way onto the airbases.

No logistical support and remember what Napoleon said: "An army
travels on its stomach."

Sheer folly.

The scary thing is that bush is stupid and egotistical enough to do
this.

The blowback in Iraq would be immediate and catastrophic, I reminded
him. The Shi'ite majority that enjoys an alliance with Iran would go
indiscriminately crazy and attack anyone and anything flying the stars
and
stripes.

Syria, which has inked a mutual defense pact with Iran and is believed
to have significant chemical and biological weapons capabilities, would
get
into the game.

China, which has recently established a multi-billion dollar petroleum
relationship with Iran, might step into the fray if it sees its new oil
source at risk.

Russia, which has stapled itself to the idea that Iran's nuclear
ambitions are for peaceful purposes, would likewise get pulled in.

Blair and Britain want nothing to do with an attack on Iran, Berlusconi
appears to have lost his job in Italy, and Spain's Aznar is already
gone. If
the Bush administration does this, I told my boss, they'd instantly
find
themselves in a cold and lonely place.

The nuclear option, I told my boss, brings even more nightmarish
possibilities. The reaction to an attack on Iran with conventional
weapons
would be bad enough. If we drop a nuke, that reaction will be worse by
orders of magnitude and puts on the table the ultimate nightmare
scenario: a
region-wide conflagration that would reach all the way to Pakistan,
where
Pervez Musharraf is fending off the fundamentalists with both hands. If
the
US drops a nuke on Iran, it is possible that the Taliban-allied
fundamentalists in Pakistan would rise up and overthrow Musharraf, thus
gaining control of Pakistan's own arsenal of nuclear weapons. All of a
sudden, those nukes would be loose, and India would lose its collective
mind.

It was a cogent argument I made, filled with common sense. My boss
seemed mollified, and we bid each other goodnight. Ten minutes later, I
had
an email from my boss in my Inbox. He'd sent me Paul Krugman's latest
editorial from the New York Times, titled "Yes He Would." Krugman's
piece
opens this way:

"But he wouldn't do that." That sentiment is what made it possible for
President Bush to stampede America into the Iraq war and to fend off
hard
questions about the reasons for that war until after the 2004 election.
Many
people just didn't want to believe that an American president would
deliberately mislead the nation on matters of war and peace. "But he
wouldn't do that," say people who think they're being sensible. Given
what
we now know about the origins of the Iraq war, however, discounting the
possibility that Mr. Bush will start another ill-conceived and
unnecessary
war isn't sensible. It's wishful thinking.

Great.

Things have come to a pretty pass in the United States of America when
the first question you have to ask yourself on matters of war and death
is,
"Just how crazy are these people?" Every cogent estimate sees Iran's
nuclear
capabilities not becoming any kind of reality for another ten years,
leaving
open a dozen diplomatic and economic options for dealing with the
situation.
There is no good reason for attacking that country, but there are a few
bad
reasons to be found.

The worst of the bad reasons, of course, is that an attack on Iran
would
change the conversation in Washington as the 2006 midterm elections
loom.
Bush and his congressional allies are about as popular as scabies right
now,
according to every available poll. If the current trend is not altered
or
disrupted, January 2007 may come with Democratic Rep. John Conyers Jr.
sitting as Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee with subpoena
powers in
hand.

"As Joseph Cirincione of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
recently pointed out," continued Krugman in his editorial, "the
administration seems to be following exactly the same script on Iran
that it
used on Iraq: 'The vice president of the United States gives a major
speech
focused on the threat from an oil-rich nation in the Middle East. The
US
secretary of state tells Congress that the same nation is our most
serious
global challenge. The secretary of defense calls that nation the
leading
supporter of global terrorism. The president blames it for attacks on
US
troops.'"

For the moment, one significant departure from the Iraq script has been
the Bush administration vehemently denying that an attack on Iran,
particularly with nuclear weapons, is an option being considered at
this
time. Bush himself called the Hersh article "wild speculation," and
White
House Press Secretary Scott McClellan bluntly stated that the US is
committed to diplomacy. Gary Sick, an Iran expert quoted by columnist
Jim
Lobe in a recent article, seems to think the reputation for irrational
and
dangerous actions enjoyed by the Bush administration is being used as a
psychological lever. "That is their record," said Sick, "so they have
no
need to invent it. If they can use that reputation to keep Iran - and
everybody else - off balance, so much the better."

Then why this cold feeling in the pit of my stomach? Julian Borger,
writing for the UK Guardian, has some added insight. "Vincent
Cannistraro,"
writes Borger, "a former CIA counter-terrorism operations chief, said
Mr.
Bush had not yet made up his mind about the use of direct military
action
against Iran. 'There is a battle for Bush's soul over that,' he said,
adding
that Karl Rove, the president's chief political adviser is adamantly
opposed
to a war. However, Mr. Cannistraro said covert military action, in the
form
of special forces troops identifying targets and aiding dissident
groups, is
already under way. 'It's been authorized, and it's going on to the
extent
that there is some lethality to it. Some people have been killed.'"

A battle for Bush's soul? Some people have been killed? It's a wild day
here in Bizarro World when I find myself in total agreement with Karl
Rove.
It is the uncertainty in all this that makes the situation truly
terrifying.
No sane person would undertake an action so fraught with peril, but if
we
have learned anything in the last few years, it is that sanity takes a
back
seat in this administration's hayride.

I bought a coffee this morning at the excellent café, around the
corner,
which is run by a wonderful Iranian woman. I asked her point-blank what
would happen in her home country if we did attack. She dismissed the
possibility out of hand. "I read that Krugman article," she said, "but
there's no way they would do this. They'd have to be crazy."

Indeed. Too bad that hasn't stopped them yet.

*

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TOPIC: Wal Mart to stop gun sales in a third of it's US stores
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3cb577d6ca5d903e
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:52 pm
From: "jamesw@argolink.net"

Kyle Rodgers wrote:
> What's a rightard to do when he can't buy a rifle with his Doritos and
> Preparation H?

Go ahead and tell us, Kyle.

Jim

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:54 pm
From: "jamesw@argolink.net"

Kyle Rodgers wrote:
> <aklon3@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:1145040377.430468.124290@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Kyle Rodgers wrote:
> >> What's a rightard to do when he can't buy a rifle with his Doritos and
> >> Preparation H?
> >
> > We sit around and wonder how a guy like you can breathe with your head
> > wedged so firmly up your ass.
>
> You ever wonder that about Bush?
>

No, I have never considered wedging my head up anyone's ass. But what
you do is your business.

Jim

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 11:37 pm
From: "John P."

"Morton Davis" wrote in a message

> I was in my local Wal-Mart Wednesday for about a half an hour. In that
> time
> I heard three calls for gubs to be removed from the gun room for pickup by
> a
> customer.

Yup. Whereas at a Wal-Mart in some other urban area, the PA activity might
indicate that all the action is in the men's wedding dresses section or the
floral design department. Wal-Mart is certainly not the first store to
tailor local inventory to the market.

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TOPIC: WTF???!!! Omaha segregates schools into Black, White, Hispanic
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8344836cbc50c225
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 3:41 am
From: Nomen Nescio

"Ned Viking" <Lomax47@hotmail.com> wrote:
> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060413/ap_on_re_us/omaha_schools
> >
> > Omaha Schools Split Along Race Lines By SCOTT BAUER, Associated Press
> > Writer
> > Thu April 13, 7:41 PM ET
> >
> > LINCOLN, Neb. - In a move decried by some as state-sponsored
> > segregation, the Legislature voted Thursday to divide the Omaha school
> > system into three districts - one mostly black, one predominantly
> > white and one largely Hispanic.
> >
> > Supporters, including the bill's sponsor and the Legislature's lone
> > black senator, said the plan would give minorities control over their
> > own school board and ensure that their children are not shortchanged
> > in favor of white youngsters.
> >
> > Republican Gov. Dave Heineman was expected to sign the measure into
> > law.
> >
> > (snip)
>
> Sounds good for many reasons.
>
> Integration breeds hate. Most school shootings are whiteass punks
> shooting minority students.

And you're one of the biggest racist hypocrites. You're type should be segregated from the normal Non-racist community.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 3:50 am
From: Nomen Nescio

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060413/ap_on_re_us/omaha_schools
>

That may be a good idea for the prison
systems, nationwide, with the racial tentions going on with inmates.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 3:53 am
From: Nomen Nescio

"Ned Viking" <Lomax47@hotmail.com> wrote:
> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060413/ap_on_re_us/omaha_schools
> >
> > Omaha Schools Split Along Race Lines By SCOTT BAUER, Associated Press
> > Writer
> > Thu April 13, 7:41 PM ET
> >
> > LINCOLN, Neb. - In a move decried by some as state-sponsored
> > segregation, the Legislature voted Thursday to divide the Omaha school
> > system into three districts - one mostly black, one predominantly
> > white and one largely Hispanic.
> >
> > Supporters, including the bill's sponsor and the Legislature's lone
> > black senator, said the plan would give minorities control over their
> > own school board and ensure that their children are not shortchanged
> > in favor of white youngsters.
> >
> > Republican Gov. Dave Heineman was expected to sign the measure into
> > law.
> >
> > (snip)
>
> Sounds good for many reasons.
>
> Integration breeds hate. Most school shootings are whiteass punks
> shooting minority students.

And you're one of the biggest racist hypocrites. Your type should be segregated from the normal Non-racist community.

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TOPIC: Colorado: Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f1882ac30dc275
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 4:04 am
From: AlleyCat

In article <123ubtf7sh8h067@corp.supernews.com>, alric@[cableone.net]
says...
> > It's nanny, nanny boo boo . . . .
>
> Here's my advantage over you, Tweety: you're a racist, and you have no
> real meaning any more in civilized societies. So you can "poo poo" or
> "boo boo," you're still an insignificant idiot.
> --
> Alric Knebel
>
>

Really, truly, I wish you were right. But oh, the times, they are a
changin'. People, are just fed up with the behavior and total debauchery
happening "out" there. And it's pacifist and apologists like you that
only make things worse. Racism has gotten worse than when Civil Rights
was at the forefront. Can you tell me why? And don't be a simpleton with
some flippant reason. There has to be reasons much more deep than even
your superior intelligence can fathom, that racism has gotten worse.
It's not just a matter of the races being different and one race being
more racist than the other. That's too simple. C'mon, give us your
profound reasons that racism exists. I have a feeling you can't come up
with anything better than nanny nanny, boo boo. By the way... if I'm
insignificant, what does that make you? Actually, I affect millions of
people with the job I do. Really. I have a feeling you are way more
insignificant than many of the people here. So... nanny nanny, boo boo.

Al

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 4:11 am
From: AlleyCat

In article <123vshft9a9gtb4@corp.supernews.com>, alric@[cableone.net]
says...
> Oh, you racists. What a cute bunch. If you don't find my current
> insults "amusing," maybe it's because it was so dead-on. It's true.
> You're a racist, and you're a throwback to a past era.
>

Do you really think calling us racist, hurts us somehow? We are not
politicians in here, numb nuts. Everyone knows how calling someone, who
happens to be in the public arena, a racist, usually has a dire effect,
but we're not in the publics eye. Hell, we're not in much of anyone's
eye. We're insignificant, yet you somehow, can't take your eyes off of
us. Whatsa matter... do you think we're going to be coming to a town
near you and do some harm? Puhleeez. No matter how Utopian you think
your life and world is, I want no part of it. I'm not that masochistic.

Al

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 4:13 am
From: AlleyCat

In article <443ffc25.34491250@free.teranews.com>, I'm@nospam.net says...
>
> >

Thanks Jack. I always enjoy that post.

Al

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 4:27 am
From: AlleyCat

In article <1240b7oc8a9t53f@corp.supernews.com>, alric@[cableone.net]
says...
> find some
> NASCAR on the television,
>

Funny how shitheads like you pick on extremely popular and successful
venues that , yes, happen to be "dominated" by whites. Here... I'm
giving you one of the reasons for racism, for free. Next one you'll have
to earn on your own. Jealousy. Plain and simple. Do you think blacks
WANT to be part of NASCAR? Why hell yeah! Why? Because of the money. Why
else would blacks want to go racin' in front of 150,000 screamin'
rednecks in the stands and millions more watching on TV? Money. One of
the only reasons blacks wanted to play at Augusta National, was to
"network". Networking brings in the money. Why else would blacks want to
be a member of an all white club where they aren't wanted, let alone
needed, except for caddying and cleaning up? They better be careful what
they ask for there. Asking for more money to loop might cause them to
lose their place amongst the storied pines, to a damn Mexican, who'll
probably do a better job and complain a whole lot less... maybe because
he don't habla inglés to well.

Al

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TOPIC: Israeli settlers conspire to turn the Ibrahimi Mosque into a synagogue
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f5098ad51f6c338a
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 9:08 pm
From: "Al Nakba"

All muzzies should be deported from Judea and Samaria!

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TOPIC: Muslims taught rape is OK
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4d437fcd387f5398
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 4:08 am
From: "Mosley Jones III"

"Steel Golem" <sliver_steel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TqJ_f.4161$vy1.1177@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Mosley Jones III" <administrator@info.gov.mars> wrote in message
> news:1144579232.883217@angel.amnet.net.au...
>>
>> "Steel Golem" <sliver_steel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:H92_f.2740$vy1.114@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Kill a settler every day.... Shoot at settlers everywhere.... Woe to
> you
>> >> if you let them reach their homes safely or travel safely on the
>> >> roads....
>> >> I want you to kill as many settlers as possible.... Do not pay
> attention
>> > to
>> >> what I say to the media, the television or public appearances. Pay
>> >> attention only to the written instructions that you receive from me."
>> >> - Yasser Arafat, addressing his people at a public event, July 2001
>> >
>> > Mos
>> >
>> > Just out of interest. If this really was said at a PUBLIC event tell
>> > us
>> > WHERE and WHEN this event was.
>>
>> Gaza 11 July 2001
>
> No Mos 11 July 2001 was the date of the newspaper report...try again...
>>
>> now have you after al these years been able to find any evidence of the
>> Palestinian Arabs existing before 1880?
>>
>> isn't it funny that you can not find anything at all
>
> Funny that you are still think that that there were no Arabs in Palestine
> prior to 1880.
>
> I note that, recently "Stevel" became another in a long list of posters to
> show you up as a dickhead for believeing such crap...
>
> Early Zionist settlers knew the locals were Arab...
> Ben-Yehuda and Yehiel Michal Pines, wrote the following in 1882 ". . .
> There
> are now only five hundred thousand Arabs, who are not very strong, and
> from
> whom we shall easily take away the country if only we do it through
> stratagems [and] without drawing upon us their hostility before we become
> a
> the strong and papules ones." (Righteous Victims, p. 49)(1)

1880, is after 1880/

Stevel made a mistake, he posted a senses of the areas of Syria Lebanon and
Jordon, he thought they were in Palestine

>
>
>
> Give it up Mos, you are the one person claiming that there were no Arabs
> in
> Palestine prior to 1880...
>
>
>
>> ARAFAT: "KILL AS MANY SETTLERS AS YOU CAN"
>>
>> By Ben Caspit
>>
>> [Ma'ariv - 11 July 200] Yasser Arafat instructed his men to "kill a
>> settler
>> every day" and asked them to "shoot at settlers everywhere."
>>
>> According to a report put on the tables of the decision makers in
>> Jerusalem,
>> Arafat recently instructed his people to increase the attacks on the
>> settlers. "Woe to you if you let them reach their homes safely or travel
>> safely on the roads," said Arafat. Along with this, Arafat instructed
>> them
>> not to open fire from Area A that is under his exclusive control and not
>> to
>> initiate attacks within the territory of Israel [IMRA: within the Green
>> Line]. "I want you to kill as many settlers as possible." He said.
>>
>> According to the same information, that is considered of the highest
>> reliability, Arafat instructed Mohammed Dahlan not to dare to detain
>> members
>> of the rejection movements or attackers. Senior security sources report
>> that
>> Dahlan recently asked to detain Abdallah Shami, who is on Israel's wanted
>> list, but his men were caught in a fight with the local population in the
>> area where Shami lives. When Arafat learned of Dahlan's attempt, the
>> chairman rebuked him and instructed him and the others heads of security
>> organizations not to arrest anyone. Arafat said at a meeting he held with
>> the heads of Fatah and members of the security apparatus "do not pay
>> attention to what I say to the media, the television or public
>> appearances.
>> Pay attention only to the written instructions that you receive from me."
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Shocking Pictures from Turkey!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/628595681c318dac
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 9:11 pm
From: "rick murphy"

http://www.turkishforum.com/pkk/img/photos/bebek_katili1.jpg
http://www.turkishforum.com/greece/visual.html

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com, <pasa_as...@kurdistan.kd>) is a self
proclaimed PKK terrorist and proud of his murders living off british
taxpayers goodwill in Belfast, UK.

++++++++++++++++=

"From: Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com)
Subject: Re: Kuwerdish contribution to Oscar 2005
This is the only article in this thread
View: Original Format
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian, soc.culture.kurdish,
soc.culture.turkish, soc.culture.iraq
Date: 2004-10-02 04:55:12 PST

We are the TERRORISTS...

We will divide Iran, Turkey, Syria and Iraq in to the pieces until
ever single individual is free from thought control, torture and
brain-washing! Every nation should have their own land where they can
practice their own culture. Iran has consist of about 20 some
different nations and we will tore them in to 20 different countries
and give mollahs a small land where they can practice their barbaric
religion to themselves and only harm temselves.

WE WILL BREAK IRAN IN TO THE PIECES!!! "

++++++++++++++++++

http://www.hurriyetim.com.tr/haber/0,,sid~381@nvid~607454,00.asp

Ereli: Our common interest is to stop the PKK

The U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli in response to whether
the US would allow Turkey to enter the north of Iraq in order to
eliminate the terrorist organization, the Kurdistan Workers Party
(PKK), said that he was unaware that such a statement had been made and
that if it did become a question, the necessary military authorities
would deal with it.

Ereli reiterated that the US recognised the PKK as a terrorist
organization and would act with its common interest with Turkey in
preventing terrorism activities of the PKK.

"Both Turkey and the United States consider PKK a terrorist
organization. Both countries are active against PKK," Ereli indicated.
He noted that the two countries would continue to cooperate and work
together on this matter.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=42380

Boucher: Ocalan Is A Terrorist Who Belongs In A Prison Cell

Published: 5/19/2005

WASHINGTON D.C. - The United States Department of State has announced
that Abdullah Ocalan is a terrorist who ''belongs in a prison cell.''

The U.S. Department of State has indicated that it took note of the
recent decision made by the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on
Ocalan and that this topic will be best handled by Turkey.

Spokesman of the U.S. Department of State Richard Boucher has said that
the U.S. continues to regard the PKK as a terrorist organization.

Describing Ocalan as a terrorist who belongs in a prison cell, Boucher
said that they did take a note of the ECHR decision.

Yet we believe that this topic would most appropriately be handled by
Turkey itself, commented Boucher.

+++++++++++++++++++

http://www.turkses.com/index.asp

The Terror Organization KADEK

1. General

Historical Background

The initial activities regarding the terror organization PKK have
started with the intellectual activities of some students defending the
Marxist-Leninist ideology within the Ankara's Democratic Patriotic
Students Association (ADYÖD) under the leadership of Abdullah ÖCALAN
since 1973.

Abdullah ÖCALAN and his friends declared the setting up of the
Kurdistan's Workers Party (PKK) during an illegal meeting held in the
Diyarbakir province, Lice district, Fis village on November 27, 1978
which was called 1 st. Congress.

The inital documents stating PKK's aim were the "The Way Of
Kurdistan's Revolution-Manifesto" and party program published in 1978.
According to the said program, the aim of the terror organization is to
found initially an independent Marxist-Leninist Kurdistan state in the
East and Southeast Anatolian regions in Turkey by using the method of
armed propaganda and to achieve subsequently its final goal of
establishing an "Independent United Kurdistan" through the unification
of the Kurdish states to be founded in neighboring countries.

To this end, the terror organization PKK having officially declared
the commencement of its armed activities following the bloody attacks
on the districts Eruh and Þemdinli on August 15, 1984 has determined
four-stage strategy in order to divide and destroy Turkey by trying to
gather some part of the people, who have been living in peace within
the country for thousands of years, on a separate territory under a
different flag claiming that they have allegedly a different identity.

According to the above-mentioned strategy, it has been intended to;

- Obtain certain cultural and social rights at the first stage,

- Set up an autonomy or another administrative system of federation
type at the second stage,

- Establish the alleged North Kurdistan in our territory at the
third stage and

- Found an independent and united Kurdistan state in the region to
include some parts of Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian territories at the
final stage.

To this end, the terror organization PKK has adopted the method of
separatism-based, three-phased armed propaganda which was called the
war of people, and based on violence directed against the regional
people. Accordingly, the terror organization PKK has aimed at.

- Completing strategic defense stage through armed propaganda,
alleged guerilla war and mobile war operations under the control of its
leading staff within the framework of its ideological ideas in the
first phase,

- Partially completing the process of establishing fronts and an
army and thus, creating the strategic balance which will provide the
balance of power between the security forces and the terror
organization in the second phase and,

- Establishing saved areas in the region after triggering public
risings wherever possible by escalating the conflicts and passing into
strategic attack state when seizing the authority in the third phase,

The terror organization which has increased its armed force over 8
thousand men and raised the violence it has used against the people
regardless of their being women, elder or children to the highest level
from 1992 has not been able to achieve the above-mentioned stages until
today due to the measures taken in accordance with the "Area
Superiority Concept" put into practice from 1994, and the operations
successfully conducted by security forces. As a result, the separatist
terror organization was forced to take the decision of unilateral
ceasefire four times in 1993, 1995, 1998 and finally on September 01,
1999 in order to preserve its terrorist power.

The terror organization desiring to exploit the alleged cease-fire
as an opportunity of recovery for tactical purposes has tried to prove
that it still maintains its existence by continuing its acts and
violence against the civilians and security forces in rural, on the one
hand, carrying out sabotage and bomb attacks in the cities, on the
other hand.

The Turkish Armed Forces has gained an important success in pulling
down the terror organization and its activities to a marginal level
through a successful military operation it has conducted under the
Turkish constitution and legislation to destroy the internal threat, by
acting in a way that ensures the simultaneous implementation of a
series of administrative, social and economic measures taken to prevent
the support being provided to the terror organization.

The last achievement of the Turkish Armed Forces in struggling
against terrorism was that head of the terror organization A. ÖCALAN,
who was deported from Syria, was taken to Turkey following his capture
in Kenya/Nairobi on February 15, 1999 and brought before the
independent court.

The terror organization, tending to resort again to violence during
the period when the head of the terror organization has been taken to
Turkey and brought before the judge, has been able to adapt itself to
the new situation in a short time within the framework of the defense
that head of the terror organization has made in the court and has
tried to reach its goal by exploiting Turkey's EU goal and certain
values such as human rights and democratic rights widely accepted by
the international community. Within the framework of his defense in the
court, the head of the terrorist organization has changed his tactic
and begun to articulate such concepts as "Democratic Republic" and
"Democratic Middle Eastern Union" in its defense to save himself from
capital punishment.

At the VII. Congress of the terror organization held in the Kandil
Mountain region in Iraq on January 02-23, 2000 during which the new
strategy of the terror organization was agreed, it was decided that;

- The armed activities should be resumed in case of execution of
head of the terrorist organization and.

- The Kurdistan's National Liberation Army (ARGK), the alleged
military flank of the terror organization should maintain its existence
under the title of "People Defense Forces (Hezi Parastini Gel-HP) and
the Kurdistan's National Liberation Front (ERNK), the alleged political
flank of the terror organization, which mainly carries out activities
in European countries under the "Kurdish Democratic People Union
(Yekita Democratic A Gele Kurd-YDK) until appropriate legal
arrangements regarding recognition of the Kurdish identity in Turkey
and constitutional guarantees are provided.

The legalization plan that the terror organization has developed
according to its new strategy agreed during its congress, provides for
the followings:

- Giving the message that it is ready to make peace with the
government of Turkish Republic in order to obtain the status of being
recognized as a party in national and international public opinion,

- Handing over some terrorists to the security forces to convince
the public opinion that it is allegedly ready to make peace,

- Making political studies within the People's Democratic Party
(HADEP), which has political connection with the terror organization,
or a similar legal organization, and cooperating with other political
parties,

- Making guiding studies within the municipalities governed by
HADEP to broaden grass roots,

- Having contacts and cooperating with intellectuals from all
circles in Turkey's democratization to ensure the alleged cultural
rights of Kurds being recognized,

- Demanding that the Turkish government should make legal changes
to prove its goodwill through the human rights organizations,

- Bringing up the education in Kurdish language,

- Ensuring the Kurdish identity coming to the fore by focusing on
cultural activities,

- Organizing campaigns in order to ensure the scope of the law of
amnesty being extended,

The terror organization has attempted by its new plan to reach its
final goal that it could not achieve through its armed struggle it has
been carrying out for 16 years, through legalization efforts. To this
end, it has increased its activities it has conducted under the title
of the "Democratic Republic" at home and under "Political Settlement (
Solution ) To The Kurdish Problem" abroad,

In the plan the terror organization developed under the name of
"Peace Project" on March 07, 2000 following the VII. Congress,

- The alleged "Kurdish Problem" and PKK terror are identified with
the Irish, Palestinian, East Timor and Basque problems and it is
requested that the related "Political Solution" initiatives should also
be taken in Turkey and,

- It is put forward that the settlement of the alleged Kurdish
problem in Turkey in accordance with the predictions of head of the
terror organization, Öcalan would also serve the settlement of the
problems in the Middle Eastern countries, and the "Democratic Middle
Eastern Union" to be set up in regional countries would lead to
economic, social and cultural developments,

- Subsequently, in its 2nd "Party Assembly" meeting held in North
Iraq in September 2000, the terror organization decided to be
reorganized to conceal its terrorist identity and began to term its
former structure with innocent titles,

- Assuming that the new strategy of the terror organization could
not be well understood and adopted by its mountain members, the terror
organization held the III. "Party Assembly" meeting between 27 February
and 03 March 2001 and focused on restructuring activities in accordance
with the decisions it took during the said meeting. In addition, the
terror organization, having assessed that the people movement
activities could not achieve the desired level, has intensified its
efforts to ensure its new strategy being accepted by its members and
supporters through a series of meetings.

In this context;

* The "Centralized Propaganda and Media Conference" was held
between 29 May and 07 June 2001 in order for the efforts in the media
field, that the terror organization considers to be insufficient, and
to reach an organized structure,

* The "1st Public Movement Conference" was held between 20 June and
02 July 2001 for the purpose of carrying out the acts and activities
the terror organization has started under the name of alleged 2nd Peace
Efforts, in a more organized manner through its supporters and
sympathizers who are directed by the front organizations,

* The "1st Public Defense Forces (HPG), Conference" was held
between 28 June and 12 July 2001 in order to develop a new structure by
making radical changes in the armed flank of the terror organization
from the armed group order and discipline to war tactics and
techniques,

* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,

* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,

* The "6th National Conference" was held on August 05-22, 2001
under the leadership of the alleged Supreme Council of the terror
organization in order to coordinate the conferences to be held in line
with the activities the terror organization carries out in various
fields and to direct all organizational efforts towards public
movements,

- The above-mentioned conferences have drawn special attention as
the ones which have been held within the framework of preparations for
the 8th Congress of the terror organization PKK. According to the
decisions taken during the said conferences, various campaigns have
been organized primarily in Europe and subsequently in Turkey for the
purpose of gaining support for the requests of constitutional
recognition of the Kurdish identity and the use of Kurdish language as
the language of education. However, the terror organization has not
been able to reach the desired level of participation by the people.

- On the other hand, the terror organization has focused on
re-establishment of the terrorist groups not directly affected by the
security forces and on their armed training in raid, laying ambush and
sabotage. The disagreements arising within the terror organization,
PKK-KPU conflict and escape of nearly five hundred Syrian terrorists
from the terror organization in particular have been the noticeable
problems that the terror organization has faced within the period under
review.

- In the meantime, the defense that head of the terror organization
has developed for his trial lasting in the European Court of Human
Rights has been printed by the terrorist organization in a two-volume
book under the title of "From the Sumerian Monastic State To The
Democratic Republic", accepted as the second manifesto and begun to be
used as a guide document for all activities carried out by the terror
organization and as a basic document in the ideological training of the
terrorist organization's members and supporters.

- The 8th Congress preparations which have lasted for a long time
in accordance with the outline of the said defense of head of the
terrorist organization was held in the Kandil Mountain region in
Northern Iraq on April 04-10, 2002 with the participation of 285
terrorist's 106 of whom were women and 179 men as well as about 100
audiences,

- In the said congress during which the activities the terror
organization PKK has conducted in the past and report developed
according to the defense of head of the terror organization and
submitted to the congress have also been evaluated, it has been pointed
out that;

* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,

* However, the ideology and modus operandi adopted by the terror
organization at the beginning have failed due to the collapse of the
former Soviet system and the anti-terror environment arising following
the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the US and,

* It has been the time that PKK would be replaced by a completely
new formation in order not to be included in the list of terrorist
organizations, and it must undergo restructuring beginning from its
ideology to its lowest-level units, including a change in its
organizational title,

* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,

* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,

* The "6th National Conference" was held on August 05-22, 2001
under the leadership of the alleged Supreme Council of the terror
organization in order to coordinate the conferences to be held in line
with the activities the terror organization carries out in various
fields and to direct all organizational efforts towards public
movements,

- The above-mentioned conferences have drawn special attention as
the ones which have been held within the framework of preparations for
the 8th Congress of the terror organization PKK. According to the
decisions taken during the said conferences, various campaigns have
been organized primarily in Europe and subsequently in Turkey for the
purpose of gaining support for the requests of constitutional
recognition of the Kurdish identity and the use of Kurdish language as
the language of education. However, the terror organization has not
been able to reach the desired level of participation by the people.

- On the other hand, the terror organization has focused on
re-establishment of the terrorist groups not directly affected by the
security forces and on their armed training in raid, laying ambush and
sabotage. The disagreements arising within the terror organization,
PKK-KPU conflict and escape of nearly five hundred Syrian terrorists
from the terror organization in particular have been the noticeable
problems that the terror organization has faced within the period under
review.

- In the meantime, the defense that head of the terror organization
has developed for his trial lasting in the European Court of Human
Rights has been printed by the terrorist organization in a two-volume
book under the title of "From the Sumerian Monastic State To The
Democratic Republic", accepted as the second manifesto and begun to be
used as a guide document for all activities carried out by the terror
organization and as a basic document in the ideological training of the
terrorist organization's members and supporters.

- The 8th Congress preparations which have lasted for a long time
in accordance with the outline of the said defense of head of the
terrorist organization was held in the Kandil Mountain region in
Northern Iraq on April 04-10, 2002 with the participation of 285
terrorist's 106 of whom were women and 179 men as well as about 100
audiences,

- In the said congress during which the activities the terror
organization PKK has conducted in the past and report developed
according to the defense of head of the terror organization and
submitted to the congress have also been evaluated, it has been pointed
out that;

* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,

* However, the ideology and modus operandi adopted by the terror
organization at the beginning have failed due to the collapse of the
former Soviet system and the anti-terror environment arising following
the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the US and,

* It has been the time that PKK would be replaced by a completely
new formation in order not to be included in the list of terrorist
organizations, and it must undergo restructuring beginning from its
ideology to its lowest-level units, including a change in its
organizational title,

- During its 8th Congress, the terror organization has stated that
PKK's role has ended under current circumstances and decided that;

* It will not use the title "PKK" in the activities it carries out
in every field from April 04, 2002 when the birthday of head of the
terrorists is,

* It will conduct its activities under the title "Kurdistan's
Freedom and Democracy Congress-KADEK" from now on in accordance with a
new program, statute and organization based on the solution of Kurdish
problem in line with the main points of the defense that head of the
terrorists has submitted to the European Court of Human Rights within
the existing borders in four countries,

* PKK considers KADEK as its sole legal representative and disposes
of its moral and physical acquisitions to KADEK. The terror
organization made a press conference in Belgium/Brussels on April 16,
2000 and publicized its decisions.

- In the meantime, the fact that the inclusion of the PKK in the
list of terrorist organizations developed by the European Union member
nations which was issued on May 4, 2002 has led the members of the
terrorist organizations into great concern regarding the possible
inclusion of KADEK in the list of terrorist organizations. For this
reason, the terror organization has immediately begun to make protests
against such nations as Denmark, Spain, the UK who have had an effect
on the related decision-making,

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Ali Asker declares: "We are the TERRORISTS..."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f21e3074cd1c58ad
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 9:13 pm
From: "rick murphy"

http://www.turkishforum.com/pkk/img/photos/bebek_katili1.jpg
http://www.turkishforum.com/greece/visual.html

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com, <pasa_as...@kurdistan.kd>) is a self
proclaimed PKK terrorist and proud of his murders living off british
taxpayers goodwill in Belfast, UK.

++++++++++++++++=

"From: Ali Asker (pasa_asker@lycos.com)
Subject: Re: Kuwerdish contribution to Oscar 2005
This is the only article in this thread
View: Original Format
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian, soc.culture.kurdish,
soc.culture.turkish, soc.culture.iraq
Date: 2004-10-02 04:55:12 PST

We are the TERRORISTS...

We will divide Iran, Turkey, Syria and Iraq in to the pieces until
ever single individual is free from thought control, torture and
brain-washing! Every nation should have their own land where they can
practice their own culture. Iran has consist of about 20 some
different nations and we will tore them in to 20 different countries
and give mollahs a small land where they can practice their barbaric
religion to themselves and only harm temselves.

WE WILL BREAK IRAN IN TO THE PIECES!!! "

++++++++++++++++++

http://www.hurriyetim.com.tr/haber/0,,sid~381@nvid~607454,00.asp

Ereli: Our common interest is to stop the PKK

The U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli in response to whether
the US would allow Turkey to enter the north of Iraq in order to
eliminate the terrorist organization, the Kurdistan Workers Party
(PKK), said that he was unaware that such a statement had been made and
that if it did become a question, the necessary military authorities
would deal with it.

Ereli reiterated that the US recognised the PKK as a terrorist
organization and would act with its common interest with Turkey in
preventing terrorism activities of the PKK.

"Both Turkey and the United States consider PKK a terrorist
organization. Both countries are active against PKK," Ereli indicated.
He noted that the two countries would continue to cooperate and work
together on this matter.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=42380

Boucher: Ocalan Is A Terrorist Who Belongs In A Prison Cell

Published: 5/19/2005

WASHINGTON D.C. - The United States Department of State has announced
that Abdullah Ocalan is a terrorist who ''belongs in a prison cell.''

The U.S. Department of State has indicated that it took note of the
recent decision made by the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on
Ocalan and that this topic will be best handled by Turkey.

Spokesman of the U.S. Department of State Richard Boucher has said that
the U.S. continues to regard the PKK as a terrorist organization.

Describing Ocalan as a terrorist who belongs in a prison cell, Boucher
said that they did take a note of the ECHR decision.

Yet we believe that this topic would most appropriately be handled by
Turkey itself, commented Boucher.

+++++++++++++++++++

http://www.turkses.com/index.asp

The Terror Organization KADEK

1. General

Historical Background

The initial activities regarding the terror organization PKK have
started with the intellectual activities of some students defending the
Marxist-Leninist ideology within the Ankara's Democratic Patriotic
Students Association (ADYÖD) under the leadership of Abdullah ÖCALAN
since 1973.

Abdullah ÖCALAN and his friends declared the setting up of the
Kurdistan's Workers Party (PKK) during an illegal meeting held in the
Diyarbakir province, Lice district, Fis village on November 27, 1978
which was called 1 st. Congress.

The inital documents stating PKK's aim were the "The Way Of
Kurdistan's Revolution-Manifesto" and party program published in 1978.
According to the said program, the aim of the terror organization is to
found initially an independent Marxist-Leninist Kurdistan state in the
East and Southeast Anatolian regions in Turkey by using the method of
armed propaganda and to achieve subsequently its final goal of
establishing an "Independent United Kurdistan" through the unification
of the Kurdish states to be founded in neighboring countries.

To this end, the terror organization PKK having officially declared
the commencement of its armed activities following the bloody attacks
on the districts Eruh and Þemdinli on August 15, 1984 has determined
four-stage strategy in order to divide and destroy Turkey by trying to
gather some part of the people, who have been living in peace within
the country for thousands of years, on a separate territory under a
different flag claiming that they have allegedly a different identity.

According to the above-mentioned strategy, it has been intended to;

- Obtain certain cultural and social rights at the first stage,

- Set up an autonomy or another administrative system of federation
type at the second stage,

- Establish the alleged North Kurdistan in our territory at the
third stage and

- Found an independent and united Kurdistan state in the region to
include some parts of Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian territories at the
final stage.

To this end, the terror organization PKK has adopted the method of
separatism-based, three-phased armed propaganda which was called the
war of people, and based on violence directed against the regional
people. Accordingly, the terror organization PKK has aimed at.

- Completing strategic defense stage through armed propaganda,
alleged guerilla war and mobile war operations under the control of its
leading staff within the framework of its ideological ideas in the
first phase,

- Partially completing the process of establishing fronts and an
army and thus, creating the strategic balance which will provide the
balance of power between the security forces and the terror
organization in the second phase and,

- Establishing saved areas in the region after triggering public
risings wherever possible by escalating the conflicts and passing into
strategic attack state when seizing the authority in the third phase,

The terror organization which has increased its armed force over 8
thousand men and raised the violence it has used against the people
regardless of their being women, elder or children to the highest level
from 1992 has not been able to achieve the above-mentioned stages until
today due to the measures taken in accordance with the "Area
Superiority Concept" put into practice from 1994, and the operations
successfully conducted by security forces. As a result, the separatist
terror organization was forced to take the decision of unilateral
ceasefire four times in 1993, 1995, 1998 and finally on September 01,
1999 in order to preserve its terrorist power.

The terror organization desiring to exploit the alleged cease-fire
as an opportunity of recovery for tactical purposes has tried to prove
that it still maintains its existence by continuing its acts and
violence against the civilians and security forces in rural, on the one
hand, carrying out sabotage and bomb attacks in the cities, on the
other hand.

The Turkish Armed Forces has gained an important success in pulling
down the terror organization and its activities to a marginal level
through a successful military operation it has conducted under the
Turkish constitution and legislation to destroy the internal threat, by
acting in a way that ensures the simultaneous implementation of a
series of administrative, social and economic measures taken to prevent
the support being provided to the terror organization.

The last achievement of the Turkish Armed Forces in struggling
against terrorism was that head of the terror organization A. ÖCALAN,
who was deported from Syria, was taken to Turkey following his capture
in Kenya/Nairobi on February 15, 1999 and brought before the
independent court.

The terror organization, tending to resort again to violence during
the period when the head of the terror organization has been taken to
Turkey and brought before the judge, has been able to adapt itself to
the new situation in a short time within the framework of the defense
that head of the terror organization has made in the court and has
tried to reach its goal by exploiting Turkey's EU goal and certain
values such as human rights and democratic rights widely accepted by
the international community. Within the framework of his defense in the
court, the head of the terrorist organization has changed his tactic
and begun to articulate such concepts as "Democratic Republic" and
"Democratic Middle Eastern Union" in its defense to save himself from
capital punishment.

At the VII. Congress of the terror organization held in the Kandil
Mountain region in Iraq on January 02-23, 2000 during which the new
strategy of the terror organization was agreed, it was decided that;

- The armed activities should be resumed in case of execution of
head of the terrorist organization and.

- The Kurdistan's National Liberation Army (ARGK), the alleged
military flank of the terror organization should maintain its existence
under the title of "People Defense Forces (Hezi Parastini Gel-HP) and
the Kurdistan's National Liberation Front (ERNK), the alleged political
flank of the terror organization, which mainly carries out activities
in European countries under the "Kurdish Democratic People Union
(Yekita Democratic A Gele Kurd-YDK) until appropriate legal
arrangements regarding recognition of the Kurdish identity in Turkey
and constitutional guarantees are provided.

The legalization plan that the terror organization has developed
according to its new strategy agreed during its congress, provides for
the followings:

- Giving the message that it is ready to make peace with the
government of Turkish Republic in order to obtain the status of being
recognized as a party in national and international public opinion,

- Handing over some terrorists to the security forces to convince
the public opinion that it is allegedly ready to make peace,

- Making political studies within the People's Democratic Party
(HADEP), which has political connection with the terror organization,
or a similar legal organization, and cooperating with other political
parties,

- Making guiding studies within the municipalities governed by
HADEP to broaden grass roots,

- Having contacts and cooperating with intellectuals from all
circles in Turkey's democratization to ensure the alleged cultural
rights of Kurds being recognized,

- Demanding that the Turkish government should make legal changes
to prove its goodwill through the human rights organizations,

- Bringing up the education in Kurdish language,

- Ensuring the Kurdish identity coming to the fore by focusing on
cultural activities,

- Organizing campaigns in order to ensure the scope of the law of
amnesty being extended,

The terror organization has attempted by its new plan to reach its
final goal that it could not achieve through its armed struggle it has
been carrying out for 16 years, through legalization efforts. To this
end, it has increased its activities it has conducted under the title
of the "Democratic Republic" at home and under "Political Settlement (
Solution ) To The Kurdish Problem" abroad,

In the plan the terror organization developed under the name of
"Peace Project" on March 07, 2000 following the VII. Congress,

- The alleged "Kurdish Problem" and PKK terror are identified with
the Irish, Palestinian, East Timor and Basque problems and it is
requested that the related "Political Solution" initiatives should also
be taken in Turkey and,

- It is put forward that the settlement of the alleged Kurdish
problem in Turkey in accordance with the predictions of head of the
terror organization, Öcalan would also serve the settlement of the
problems in the Middle Eastern countries, and the "Democratic Middle
Eastern Union" to be set up in regional countries would lead to
economic, social and cultural developments,

- Subsequently, in its 2nd "Party Assembly" meeting held in North
Iraq in September 2000, the terror organization decided to be
reorganized to conceal its terrorist identity and began to term its
former structure with innocent titles,

- Assuming that the new strategy of the terror organization could
not be well understood and adopted by its mountain members, the terror
organization held the III. "Party Assembly" meeting between 27 February
and 03 March 2001 and focused on restructuring activities in accordance
with the decisions it took during the said meeting. In addition, the
terror organization, having assessed that the people movement
activities could not achieve the desired level, has intensified its
efforts to ensure its new strategy being accepted by its members and
supporters through a series of meetings.

In this context;

* The "Centralized Propaganda and Media Conference" was held
between 29 May and 07 June 2001 in order for the efforts in the media
field, that the terror organization considers to be insufficient, and
to reach an organized structure,

* The "1st Public Movement Conference" was held between 20 June and
02 July 2001 for the purpose of carrying out the acts and activities
the terror organization has started under the name of alleged 2nd Peace
Efforts, in a more organized manner through its supporters and
sympathizers who are directed by the front organizations,

* The "1st Public Defense Forces (HPG), Conference" was held
between 28 June and 12 July 2001 in order to develop a new structure by
making radical changes in the armed flank of the terror organization
from the armed group order and discipline to war tactics and
techniques,

* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,

* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,

* The "6th National Conference" was held on August 05-22, 2001
under the leadership of the alleged Supreme Council of the terror
organization in order to coordinate the conferences to be held in line
with the activities the terror organization carries out in various
fields and to direct all organizational efforts towards public
movements,

- The above-mentioned conferences have drawn special attention as
the ones which have been held within the framework of preparations for
the 8th Congress of the terror organization PKK. According to the
decisions taken during the said conferences, various campaigns have
been organized primarily in Europe and subsequently in Turkey for the
purpose of gaining support for the requests of constitutional
recognition of the Kurdish identity and the use of Kurdish language as
the language of education. However, the terror organization has not
been able to reach the desired level of participation by the people.

- On the other hand, the terror organization has focused on
re-establishment of the terrorist groups not directly affected by the
security forces and on their armed training in raid, laying ambush and
sabotage. The disagreements arising within the terror organization,
PKK-KPU conflict and escape of nearly five hundred Syrian terrorists
from the terror organization in particular have been the noticeable
problems that the terror organization has faced within the period under
review.

- In the meantime, the defense that head of the terror organization
has developed for his trial lasting in the European Court of Human
Rights has been printed by the terrorist organization in a two-volume
book under the title of "From the Sumerian Monastic State To The
Democratic Republic", accepted as the second manifesto and begun to be
used as a guide document for all activities carried out by the terror
organization and as a basic document in the ideological training of the
terrorist organization's members and supporters.

- The 8th Congress preparations which have lasted for a long time
in accordance with the outline of the said defense of head of the
terrorist organization was held in the Kandil Mountain region in
Northern Iraq on April 04-10, 2002 with the participation of 285
terrorist's 106 of whom were women and 179 men as well as about 100
audiences,

- In the said congress during which the activities the terror
organization PKK has conducted in the past and report developed
according to the defense of head of the terror organization and
submitted to the congress have also been evaluated, it has been pointed
out that;

* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,

* However, the ideology and modus operandi adopted by the terror
organization at the beginning have failed due to the collapse of the
former Soviet system and the anti-terror environment arising following
the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the US and,

* It has been the time that PKK would be replaced by a completely
new formation in order not to be included in the list of terrorist
organizations, and it must undergo restructuring beginning from its
ideology to its lowest-level units, including a change in its
organizational title,

* The "3rd Free Women Party (PJA) Conference" was held on July
11-22, 2001 to make the women organizations conducting activities in
legal and illegal fields more active and organized,

* The "1st Culture, Art and Folklore Conference" was held on 11-22
July 2001 in order to indoctrinate wider parts of the people with
separatist ideas and,

* The "6th National Conference" was held on August 05-22, 2001
under the leadership of the alleged Supreme Council of the terror
organization in order to coordinate the conferences to be held in line
with the activities the terror organization carries out in various
fields and to direct all organizational efforts towards public
movements,

- The above-mentioned conferences have drawn special attention as
the ones which have been held within the framework of preparations for
the 8th Congress of the terror organization PKK. According to the
decisions taken during the said conferences, various campaigns have
been organized primarily in Europe and subsequently in Turkey for the
purpose of gaining support for the requests of constitutional
recognition of the Kurdish identity and the use of Kurdish language as
the language of education. However, the terror organization has not
been able to reach the desired level of participation by the people.

- On the other hand, the terror organization has focused on
re-establishment of the terrorist groups not directly affected by the
security forces and on their armed training in raid, laying ambush and
sabotage. The disagreements arising within the terror organization,
PKK-KPU conflict and escape of nearly five hundred Syrian terrorists
from the terror organization in particular have been the noticeable
problems that the terror organization has faced within the period under
review.

- In the meantime, the defense that head of the terror organization
has developed for his trial lasting in the European Court of Human
Rights has been printed by the terrorist organization in a two-volume
book under the title of "From the Sumerian Monastic State To The
Democratic Republic", accepted as the second manifesto and begun to be
used as a guide document for all activities carried out by the terror
organization and as a basic document in the ideological training of the
terrorist organization's members and supporters.

- The 8th Congress preparations which have lasted for a long time
in accordance with the outline of the said defense of head of the
terrorist organization was held in the Kandil Mountain region in
Northern Iraq on April 04-10, 2002 with the participation of 285
terrorist's 106 of whom were women and 179 men as well as about 100
audiences,

- In the said congress during which the activities the terror
organization PKK has conducted in the past and report developed
according to the defense of head of the terror organization and
submitted to the congress have also been evaluated, it has been pointed
out that;

* The terror organization PKK has obtained some advantages like
raising of the Kurdish problem in international area as a result of the
armed struggle it has conducted since 1977,

* However, the ideology and modus operandi adopted by the terror
organization at the beginning have failed due to the collapse of the
former Soviet system and the anti-terror environment arising following
the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the US and,

* It has been the time that PKK would be replaced by a completely
new formation in order not to be included in the list of terrorist
organizations, and it must undergo restructuring beginning from its
ideology to its lowest-level units, including a change in its
organizational title,

- During its 8th Congress, the terror organization has stated that
PKK's role has ended under current circumstances and decided that;

* It will not use the title "PKK" in the activities it carries out
in every field from April 04, 2002 when the birthday of head of the
terrorists is,

* It will conduct its activities under the title "Kurdistan's
Freedom and Democracy Congress-KADEK" from now on in accordance with a
new program, statute and organization based on the solution of Kurdish
problem in line with the main points of the defense that head of the
terrorists has submitted to the European Court of Human Rights within
the existing borders in four countries,

* PKK considers KADEK as its sole legal representative and disposes
of its moral and physical acquisitions to KADEK. The terror
organization made a press conference in Belgium/Brussels on April 16,
2000 and publicized its decisions.

- In the meantime, the fact that the inclusion of the PKK in the
list of terrorist organizations developed by the European Union member
nations which was issued on May 4, 2002 has led the members of the
terrorist organizations into great concern regarding the possible
inclusion of KADEK in the list of terrorist organizations. For this
reason, the terror organization has immediately begun to make protests
against such nations as Denmark, Spain, the UK who have had an effect
on the related decision-making,

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TOPIC: Ahmadinejad called Israel a "rotten, dried tree" that will be
annihilated by "one storm."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a8fac48044b37ffd
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 4:38 am
From: "Mexican Bandolero"

All talk and no action...that's what it is.

Deep waters are silent!
Shallow waters are noisy!!

The hunter is so quiet, so silent.
The hunter is more quiet than the hunted.
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"Salah Jafar" <codeman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:DJT%f.239$7w6.186@trnddc02...
TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Israel a "rotten,
dried tree" that will be annihilated by "one storm."

"Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation,"
Ahmadinejad told a conference for supporting the Palestinians that opened in
the Iranian capital on Friday, days after declaring his country had become a
nuclear power by enriching uranium.

But the tone of Ahmadinejad's speech was slightly more moderate than fiery
rhetoric last year, when Iran's official IRNA news agency quoted him as
telling a conference: "Israel must be wiped off the map."

The existence of the Zionist regime is tantamount to an imposition of an
unending and unrestrained threat so that none of the nations and Islamic
countries of the region and beyond can feel secure from its threat,"
Ahmadinejad said on Friday.
In February, Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki had said Ahmadinejad's
October comments had been misunderstood and that he had been speaking about
the Israeli "regime" not the country. Mottaki had said a country could not
be removed from the map.

His October remarks drew widespread condemnation.

Some analysts had said Ahmadinejad might use slightly more moderate language
at Friday's conference after announcing Iran had successfully enriched
uranium, a step condemned by world powers and which has ratcheted up
pressure on the country.

The West believes it is part of Iranian efforts to develop nuclear bombs, a
charge Iran denies.

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TOPIC: More Alex DROOL
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Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 9:43 pm
From: "Jim E"

Down the flusher.

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