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Today's topics:
* Colorado: Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout. - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f1882ac30dc275
* ONE "TACTICAL ERROR"! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b6199f1c06fa8f48
* Immigrants come out 2,000,000 strong - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8dc3769169346f77
* New Orleans: Suppressing the Black Vote - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e5d667e133812a69
* THE FIRST TERRORIST PEOPLE - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/904401dc574f729b
* men in uniform in iraq - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bf05dc1d5418122b
* HOLD REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS FEET TO THE FIRE...... - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4c84b4757296fbc7
* Baghdad car bomb kills 15 in Shiite neighborhood - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/68c4552dc5f2f4b9
* JEWS are doomed - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9ae085fede66a411
* WTF???!!! Omaha segregates schools into Black, White, Hispanic - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8344836cbc50c225
* Top Ten Jesus Movies - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/adf037a627d78e08
* The Day the Mufti Came to Town - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6765cc0b154c7691
* Wal Mart to stop gun sales in a third of it's US stores - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3cb577d6ca5d903e
* The North was the aggressor. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/aee6d0a95d50a725
* Trouble in Turkey: Fear Prevails after Priest's Murder - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/963c1fff8785636d
* Thank you, India admirer ! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e5d8f7ba709dcb5b
* U.S.S. LIBERTY - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/10330101aca94e96
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TOPIC: Colorado: Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f1882ac30dc275
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 12:31 am
From: YoMammmy@work.org (Way Back Jack)
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:08:36 -0500, Alric Knebel
<alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>Way Back Jack wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:44:55 -0500, Alric Knebel
>> <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:09:17 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>>><alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:17:10 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>>>>><alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article <qqes32d3d6jop4l1moipufg9iho7kltd55@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>>lojbab@lojban.org muttered to himself...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>A plural group pulled the trigger? That must have been some gun.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>lojbab
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You know?... someone responded to one of my posts, by saying, "I'd bet
>>>>>>>>it's low (my IQ), and something you already suspect (that would be
>>>>>>>>SUSPECTED... so I'M the dumb one?)... Since YOU aren't that smart, you
>>>>>>>>take pride in the fact that... "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jesus, you prove my point. "Suspect" was correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If anyone really wants to know what it's (TNB) like, ask. I live and
>>>>>>>>work in the deep, deep South.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Al
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I do to. Piss off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know. You never forgave mam and pap for being
>>>>>>whyte and never had the opportunity to sing "We shall overcome."
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, look. The bigger racist is coming to the rescue of his little
>>>>>racist brother. That is so sweet, a show of solidarity. But, my little
>>>>>nitwit, ten of you together is just stupidity reaching a critical mass.
>>>>>Just think. All of this started by you coming to the defense of an
>>>>>avowed Nazi. How the hell do you think ANY comeback you make is ever
>>>>>going to mean anything to me? I'm so self-assured of the rightness of
>>>>>my thinking, you're just performing for my benefit. You're a RACIST, an
>>>>>ugly, stupid human being with nothing of significance to contribute to
>>>>>anything. You moron. I bet you didn't even understand what I just said.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I bet ya momma regaled ya with tales of glory about the 60s when she
>>>>was secretary, go fer, and group 'ho for the local Black Panther
>>>>Chapter. I recall the nite she was stoned and said that she would
>>>>name her first born "Moonbeam." She keep her promise?
>>>
>>>Work it, ya stupid racist. Work it hard. I'm so not like that, you
>>>just show how stupid a racist can be when a white person challenges his
>>>stupidity. You troglodyte.
>>
>>
>> Whiggers aren't white.
>>
>> How many times I gotta tell ya??
>>
>> Now go collect your reward from Kwieisi.
>
>Go get your brain refilled with some ideas from David Duke. His booth
>is the first cave on the right.
You might remember a few months back the series of TV ads Bank of
America had with this kid dressed in white walking around, with
everything coming to stop as soon as he said, "Shhhhhhh." Well, the
ad that had him touring a museum and saying how much he wanted to be a
teacher and "change the world" had me both laughing and shaking my
head in disgust. OK, sonny, become a teacher, I thought. Wait until
you've gotten your BA, start substitute teaching while working on your
Graduate degree, and typical nigger behavior whops you upside the
head the second you enter that classroom. Go ahead and get your
teaching certification and find out that while there are lots of jobs,
they're nearly all in inner-city shithole nigger warehouses. We'll
see how long you last after your life has been threatened daily, your
car rountinely vandalized, and the "curricula" consist of feel-good,
pro-faggot, anti-White, afrocentric nonsense that you KNOW is 100%
pure bullshit and you cannot do a damn thing about it. What'cha gonna
do NOW, boy? They didn't tell you about this in your PC-obsessed
"collich." Sure, you'd like to walk away from it, but now you have a
whopping student loan to pay off, not to mention all the maxxed-out
credit cards you acquired prior to graduation. You wouldn't happen to
know a blue-collar trade, now, would you?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 12:31 am
From: YoMammmy@work.org (Way Back Jack)
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:14:59 -0500, Alric Knebel
<alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>Way Back Jack wrote:
>
>>>>You need to revert to your insults from the Whigger Handbook, 1959
>>>>edition.
>>>>
>>>>At least they were amusing.
>>>
>>>Oh, you racists. What a cute bunch. If you don't find my current
>>>insults "amusing," maybe it's because it was so dead-on. It's true.
>>>You're a racist, and you're a throwback to a past era. Society has
>>>passed you by, and you're just this diminutive leering hick receding in
>>>our rearview mirror. How's that? Funny enough for you, you bitchy
>>>little nitwit? Well, if not, I think it's funny enough for both of us.
>>> Just sit back, and let me do the laughing.
>>
>>
>> Here twink, laff at this:
>>
>> Are you an underprivileged 12-year-old homey living in the 'hood? Do
>> you have no idea who your daddy is? If you do know your father, you're
>> probably about as unpopular as a 15-year-old white girl who hasn't yet
>> experienced lesbianism with multiple partners in a public venue. In
>> other words, you're hated by your peers (and are ostracized by your
>> school).
>>
>> For the 96% of you who DON'T know who your daddy is, consider yourself
>> lucky. Since your "moms" has no idea who he is (and she hasn't been
>> invited to the Maury Povich Show to find out), you can do what you
>> always do - lie your ass off! Unlike white kids (or those black kids
>> at your school who speak proper English who you call "white") you get
>> to actually CHOOSE who your daddy will be. It doesn't matter -
>> nobody's actually sure. Saniqua's been hooking up with every Leshon,
>> Dick and Harry in the tri-state area since she was 14, and you're
>> probably related to pretty much everyone in your neighborhood as it
>> is.
>>
>> All you have to decide is what TYPE of homey you would like for a
>> father. Here's the list:
>>
>> 1) Afro-Centric Phony: These people are a disgrace to their heritage.
>> You'll see them in the ghetto wearing the most ridiculous African garb
>> that people from Kenya and Tanaznia are forced to make fun of. They
>> have no sense of history, current events, culture, or language arts,
>> yet will hold themselves up as "experts" on all things African. Most
>> of these people are extremely fat, and will justify their use of
>> wearing large shower curtains instead of
>> pants by saying that it's their "cultural" tradition. A great way to
>> "keep it real." They will also give themselves and their children
>> phony African names like "Uhuru," which (as every white Star Trek geek
>> with tape on his glasses knows is Swahili for "freedom").
>>
>> 2) Pseudo Intellectual - Similar to the Afro-Centric Phony, the Pseudo
>> Intellectual will spout off all sorts of fraudulent statistcs and will
>> make excuses for the rapant crime, drug abuse, and fatherless children
>> in your community (with an added emphasis on the final syllable "ty"
>> to make himself sound even more intelligent). The Psuedo Intellectual
>> homey will also use his index finger excessively. He will hold it up
>> like bin Laden when he's making a "point," and will use it to point to
>> his temple to talk about his "intelligence." He will also impress
>> every fat skank in your area code with his overuse of hackneyed
>> cliches such as "Math is Power," or "The CIA brings in drugs."
>>
>> 3) Petty Thug - Your father could be a drug dealer, jockey-boxer,
>> purse-snatcher, or simple thief. I know this isn't the most glamorous
>> type of father, but at least you won't be accused of being white (like
>> the kid whose dad is an Intel engineer does).
>>
>> 4) Hardened Thug - If your dad's a murderer, rapist, or other hardened
>> criminal, you could have a problem. Sure, you will be respected by
>> everyone at your school (should you choose to go), but there's a very
>> good chance that if he gets out of the joint, he's going to kill you
>> (then blame it on "Post Traumatic Slave Disorder," a faux mental
>> condition created by our esteemed Pseudo Intellectual homey).
>>
>> 5) Loafer/Bum - You could always have a dad that's not burdened by
>> work or those other things you deem to be "white." Many homies have
>> made a very fulfilling career out of doing absolutely nothing. Even
>> though he doesn't work, the Loafer/Bum dad sure as hell won't spend
>> any time with you. He'd rather be out on the corner drinking pimp
>> juice, shucking, jiving, loafing, goofing, and saying "let me have a
>> dollar" to everyone who walks by. It's an art form. And like most art
>> forms, the Ward Cleavers of the white community don't see it as worthy
>> of financial compensation. That's fine, because your dad is most
>> likely on the dole.
>>
>> 6) Teen Dad - Of course, if you're 12, your dad could be as old as 25,
>> so he's not technically a "teen." However, that won't stop him from
>> challenging you to a game of b-ball or trying to get your 12 year old
>> girlfriend into bed. Be carefull.
>>
>> 7) Community Leader - This is perhaps the easiest position to get into
>> if you're a homey. You don't need any intelligence, morals, or
>> leadership ability whatsoever. Just look at how popular Marion Barry
>> is. Now think about the local Marion Barrys in your town. Pretty
>> pathetic, aren't they? This is an excellent position for a homey thug
>> father. Not only do you get the best pussy, you get to blame virtually
>> every vice you have on whitey. Plus, the media (as well as the urban
>> legend believing members of your town) will fall all over themselves
>> to kiss your ass. If you have one of these as a dad, you may in fact
>> get some sloppy seconds.
>>
>> 8) Po-litical Activist/Professional Victim - Al Sharpton embodies this
>> better than anybody else. All you need to do in order to be a
>> "political activist" in the hood is register to vote. That's all. You
>> don't even have to actually vote (which is good, because you don't
>> know how to vote anyway). Like the Community Leader, the Po-litical
>> Activist makes a living through a healthy mix of graft, embezzlement,
>> extortion, and asking Shamiqua for a do-nation.
>>
>> 9) Mr. Hoop Dreams - You may want to have a father that was the best
>> basketball player in his high school before he dropped out to join the
>> NBA (which didn't accept him). Your daddy's basketball prowess means
>> absolutely nothing to the real world, but will make you the hero of
>> your entire block. The fact that he can't get a job (even if he wanted
>> one) is fine with you. After all, the last thing you want is a father
>> who would put any pressure on you to succeed. That would be too
>> "white."
>>
>> 10) Bill Clinton - Finally, if you really want to attract attention to
>> yourself (one of the pillars of Keeping it Real), just say that your
>> "moms" had sex with Bill Clinton when he was governor of Arkansas.
>> Statistically, there are at least ten of you out there, and you'll
>> either be able to extort money out of him or sell your story to the
>> Enquirer. Either way, you get to
>> demonstrate one of the main aspects of being a homey - elevating
>> people who have nothing but disdain for your community (like when
>> people called Clinton "The First Black President").
>>
>> So that's it in a nutshell. Pick a dad, then tell your mom which one
>> you want for Father's Day. And don't worry. Since you're 12, it's not
>> long before you yourself will be blessed with being a parent (which
>> will be your cue to exit, stage left).
>
>I know in a dull racist's mind, that somehow made sense, and if any of
>that applied to me, you stupid hick, it might even be hurtful. But it
>doesn't, so it isn't. However, YOU, on the other hand, really are a
>stupid racist. Now THAT really IS it in a nutshell. Pick a cave, make
>yourself a straw bed, settle down with a case of Bush beer, find some
>NASCAR on the television, and drink yourself until you pass out and piss
>yourself. You stupid hick.
You sure none of those apply to you? Your unwahed hippie of a mother
took up with at least 7 of those types.
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TOPIC: ONE "TACTICAL ERROR"!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b6199f1c06fa8f48
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 5:37 pm
From: "Evron"
serwad wrote:
> Five Fort Hood soldiers die in mine blasts in Iraq
> By: AP on: 14.04.2006 [19:46 ] (272 reads)
>
First, five brave souls have left us.
There was one major tactical error, they missed you seward.
Evron ------- "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail."
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:46 pm
From: "serwad"
"Evron" <mossad@ziontimes.com> wrote in message
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>
> serwad wrote:
>> Five Fort Hood soldiers die in mine blasts in Iraq
>> By: AP on: 14.04.2006 [19:46 ] (272 reads)
>>
>
> First, five brave souls have left us.
>
> There was one major tactical error, they missed you seward.
>
> Evron ------- "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail."
THEY WERE NOT JEWS ARSEHOLE! JEWS ALWAYS GET SOMEONE TO DIE FOR THEM!
--
TO REBEL IS RIGHT, TO DISOBEY IS DUTY, TO ACT IS NECESSARY!
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TOPIC: Immigrants come out 2,000,000 strong
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8dc3769169346f77
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:40 pm
From: "Rat Senator Russ Slimemold"
<NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org> wrote in message
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> Immigrants come out 2,000,000 strong
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Thats strange. I did not notice any motel roms not being made, any
vegetable snot being picked , or any other job thye claim would not get
done the day they struck.
Round em up, ship em out and lock the gate s !
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TOPIC: New Orleans: Suppressing the Black Vote
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e5d667e133812a69
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:42 pm
From: "Rat Senator Russ Slimemold"
New Orleans has been a black democrat city for decades. Every electon black
democrats get elected to office. Every electon they claim they will solve
the same problems. The city continues to be corrupt , in debt , falling
apart , and full of welfare democrats killing, rioting, looting and
destroying the place.
Now that most of the vermine have been exterminatd out of town , the best
think New orlean can do is make sure they never return.
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TOPIC: THE FIRST TERRORIST PEOPLE
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/904401dc574f729b
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 5:42 pm
From: "Evron"
serwad wrote:
> I'M A LIAR, I SHOULD BE SHOT IN MECCA AND BURIED IN A PIGSKIN CASKET.
>
>
> --
You are so right.....
Evron ------- "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail."
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:59 pm
From: "serwad"
ZIONAZI CRAP THAT IS ALL YOU ARE EVREI
--
TO REBEL IS RIGHT, TO DISOBEY IS DUTY, TO ACT IS NECESSARY!
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 6:03 pm
From: "Evron"
serwad wrote:
> I BLESS YOU EVRON, THAT IS ALL I DO EVERYDAY!
>
You are to kind.
Evron ------- "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail."
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TOPIC: men in uniform in iraq
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bf05dc1d5418122b
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 2:54 am
From: "BabaTurk-2"
"Alistair Sim" wrote
>
> With all the soldiers serving in the Middle East, our resident
<snip>
Cool, man!
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TOPIC: HOLD REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS FEET TO THE FIRE......
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4c84b4757296fbc7
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 5:43 pm
From: "Jim E"
"Sanders Kaufman" <who@where.com> wrote in message
news:iYI%f.15816$tN3.1353@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> "Tx Max King" <txmxking@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fKE%f.22699$yy4.10486@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>> REMEMBER THE ALAMO
>>
>> That's exactly what I was thinking today. As a Texas
>> Independent, it dawned on me that we had already fought
>> that battle. We bled, our heroes died and we won.
>
> Everybody was killed.
The US flag flies over Texas.
So much for the effectiveness of any mex army.
Jim E
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 5:45 pm
From: "Jim E"
"Yod Vau" <flying_booger@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145028392.511593.166170@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>
>> (Sheesh you inbred rednecks are dumb!)
>
> Sanders Kaufman? How insufferably Ashkenazi can you get?
Gobs of insecure Jew hater crapola flushed.
You define the term
"LOSER"
Jim E
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 5:47 pm
From: "Jim E"
"Yod Vau" <flying_booger@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145034367.638718.278070@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
> Douggie wrote:
>> Lovely. That fucked up fool Yod Vau isn't just an anti-Hispanic
>> racist, he's also an anti-Jewish racist.
>
> Evidently your understanding of the cultural conflict between the
> various sects of Judaism and the rifts between those sects is
> completely lacking.
>
> I am decended from English Jews, Spanish Jews and German Jews.
You are a totally screwed up bigot who probably can't get a job because of
your inability to adapt to the real world.
You are one sick pile of shit.
Jim E
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TOPIC: Baghdad car bomb kills 15 in Shiite neighborhood
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/68c4552dc5f2f4b9
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 12:47 am
From: dimethyltryptamine
> Baghdad car bomb kills 15 in Shiite neighborhood
>
> BAGHDAD (AFP) - Iraq's sectarian tensions intensified as a car bomb killed
> 15 people in a Baghdad Shiite neighborhood and the brother of a senior Sunni
> politician was shot dead.
Good.
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TOPIC: JEWS are doomed
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9ae085fede66a411
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:49 pm
From: "serwad"
> Exactly!! I have been saying that for a few years. My son and his
friends
> state loudly that if they didn't get the supposed "aid" with all the
> strings
> to spend it in America, they could go ahead and do what is necessary to
> keep
> themselves and families alive.
>
> I agree that ALL aid to the ME has to be suspended as well.
>
> Norma
You have to be kidding! israel would starve inside a month!
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TOPIC: WTF???!!! Omaha segregates schools into Black, White, Hispanic
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8344836cbc50c225
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 12:48 am
From: Anthropy
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:45:57 GMT, "Larry J."
<usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>Waiving the right to remain silent, "Ned Viking" <Lomax47
>@hotmail.com> said:
>
>> Integration breeds hate. Most school shootings are whiteass punks
>> shooting minority students.
>
>You shouldn't lead into your usual screeds with a lie.
You have statistics to prove your claim Larry? Cite!
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TOPIC: Top Ten Jesus Movies
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/adf037a627d78e08
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:55 pm
From: Derek Janssen
Fred Goodwin, CMA wrote:
> Top Ten Jesus Movies
>
> http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/commentaries/top10jesusmovies.html
> http://tinyurl.com/o2pnz
>
> They've been making films about the Son of God for over a century.
> Here's one man's list of those that ascend to the top of the cinematic
> pack.
So, we include loopy "Passion" and campy "Greatest Story", and exclude
the 1979 "Jesus Film"...Uhhh-huh.
Derek Janssen (and non-denominational movie fans can STILL whip all
pretenders at movie trivia)
ejanss@comcast.net
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TOPIC: The Day the Mufti Came to Town
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6765cc0b154c7691
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 8:51 pm
From: "serwad"
"Jim E" <YD652126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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>
> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:EAy%f.828$4O2.454@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
>> news:zmw%f.197$5J6.109@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...
>>> "Death to America" can be heard loud and clear throughout the streets of
>>> Tehran. It can also be frequently heard out of the mouth of one Ikrima
>>> Sa'
>>> id Sabri, the Grand Mufti of the Al-Aqsa Mosque located in Jerusalem.
>>> Recently, Sabri had the opportunity to visit the land that he hates so
>>> much.
>>> But why would he want to, and why would we let him?
>>
>> WHO IS "WE" YOU CROATIAN USTASHA!
>>
>
> From the serb swamp dweller who ran from his homeland like the communist
> coward he is.
YOU ARE REALLY FUNNY JEWBOY! CAN YOU IMAGINE ANYONE ELSE WHO RAN MORE
TIMES THAN JEWS DID?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 6:06 pm
From: "Evron"
serwad wrote:
> YOU ARE REALLY FUNNY! CAN YOU IMAGINE ANYONE ELSE WHO RAN MORE
> TIMES THAN ARABS DID? 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, AND ON AND ON.....
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TOPIC: Wal Mart to stop gun sales in a third of it's US stores
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3cb577d6ca5d903e
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 12:51 am
From: "Morton Davis"
"John P." <Admiral Pee@neveragainvolunteeryourself.com> wrote in message
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> "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" wrote in a message
>
> > Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has decided to stop selling guns in about a third
> > of its U.S. stores in what it calls a marketing decision based on lack
> > of demand in some places, a company spokeswoman said Friday.
>
> What a strange business idea. Wal-Mart has moved from being an entirely
> rural and primarily southern based business and is now building many
stores
> in urban areas. In about a third of their stores, they stock, display and
> have guns, ammunition, hunting & fishing gear available to the customers.
> The only action they get at the gun counter is people stopping to ask
> directions on where to find the Espresso makers and 400 thread count
linens.
> In an odd business decision, Wal-Mart has decided to stop trying to sell
> things that none of the customers in those stores wants to buy so they can
> focus on stocking those items these customers *do* want to buy.
>
> Why the heck would they do something like that. What are they trying to
do,
> make money?
>
>
I was in my local Wal-Mart Wednesday for about a half an hour. In that time
I heard three calls for gubs to be removed from the gun room for pickup by a
customer.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 5:44 pm
From: EGB
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:02:28 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060414/ap_on_bi_ge/wal_mart_guns_2
>
>Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has decided to stop selling guns in about a third
>of its U.S. stores in what it calls a marketing decision based on lack
>of demand in some places, a company spokeswoman said Friday.
I'm sure all the Republican lawyers in Texas are happy to have an
excuse to duck out of a bird hunt with the VP.
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TOPIC: The North was the aggressor.
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Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 5:56 pm
From: nbatra@sbcglobal.net
Marx claimed that because the forts that were in the south were US
property, so the south using those forts, was a case of theft and
aggression. In fact, it's not that the south was separating from the
US. Rather, it was the US dividing into two. All US property had been
paid half by the taxes from the south, and half from the taxes from the
north. So this affiliation of US with north was wrong. Half of Us
property belonged to the south, and half to the north. The forts were
built with southern taxmoney just as much as northern money. The
successor states to the US- the north, which kept the name US, and the
south, which took the name CSA-- were co-equal. The only thing the
north had in common with its predecessor was they shared the name US,
but in fact it was a new country, very different from the old US, just
as the south was a new different country, very different from the old
US. The US ceased to exist, and two new countries came to be, the
North and the South. Since the north took the name of the old country,
the north got associated with the US, but really it was no more of a US
successor than the south was.
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TOPIC: Trouble in Turkey: Fear Prevails after Priest's Murder
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Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 12:58 am
From: "Ali Asker"
Der Spiegel - "Trouble in Turkey: Fear Prevails after Priest's Murder":
12 April 2006 / by Annette Grossbongardt*
Christians are a vanishing minority in predominately Muslim Turkey. The
murder of a priest in February shows that the situation has become
precarious -- both for Catholics and for Turkey's EU bid.
Father Pierre Brunissen is deeply immersed in thought as he bumps along in
the night bus along the Black Sea coast from Samsun to Trabzon in northern
Turkey. There is, on this trip, little for the priest to be happy about. He
is hurrying to a Christian congregation in Trabzon -- a city of 250,000
Muslims -- which boasts barely a dozen members. And he is needed because the
former priest in Trabzon, Father Andrea Santoro, was murdered in his church.
It's a church which is now casting about for a caretaker. In the vicarage,
which gives off a distinct air of neglect, a small plastic tree left over
from Christmas gathers dust in the visiting room. Because no one volunteered
to replace the murdered priest, the 75-year-old Father Pierre was instructed
to travel the 250 kilometers by bus from Samsun to Trabzon once a month to
look after things in the city's tiny congregation.
The Catholic Santa Maria Church was founded by Capuchin monks 150 years ago.
Santoro had the church restored, and now colorful ornaments and images of
the saints once again grace the building's walls and ceilings. But in early
February, Santoro was shot dead by two gunshots while he was praying in the
last pew of the church. The first shot penetrated his lung and the second
went straight to his heart. In the dark wood of the pew, a splintered mark
made by one of the bullets can still be seen. On this day, Father Pierre
will celebrate the first mass in the church since Santoro's murder, but the
church bells remain silent -- there is nobody there to ring them.
Christians are a tiny, tolerated minority in Turkey, a country which is 99
percent Muslim, and the Catholic priest is wary of being too conspicuous. He
even advises the members of his congregation in Samsun not to wear any
visible symbols of their faith, such as a cross dangling on the outside of a
blouse or shirt.
"Murdered priests aren't good for Trabzon"
"We have nothing against Christians," says Volkan Canalioglu, the mayor of
Trabzon. "On the contrary, we respect other religions; after all, Turkey is
home to many cultures." A giant Turkish flag hangs in his office, and he is
a member of the Republican People's Party (Cumhuriyet Halk Partisi or CHP)
founded by Kemal Atatürk, which promotes the secular legacy of the founder
of the modern Turkish state. "You will find no one in Trabzon who approves
of this horrible deed."
The vice president of the local soccer team, Trabzonspor, is also upset
about the incident. "We were playing a match in Ankara when the murder
happened. We won the match, but we couldn't really enjoy our victory," says
Hasim Sayitoglu. "Headlines about murdered priests aren't good for Trabzon
or for us." Sayitoglu grew up not far from the Santa Maria Church, although
he says he doesn't know a single Christian.
Trabzon, an ancient trading city that now hopes to develop a thriving local
tourist industry, places little value on its Byzantine heritage. There are
many churches and monasteries dating from centuries of Byzantine Christian
rule, although most have since been converted into mosques. During the great
population exchange between Turkey and Greece in 1923, almost 1.5 million
Orthodox Christians were expelled from Asia Minor and replaced by 356,000
Muslims from Greece. As a result of the mass murder and expulsion of the
Armenians in World War I, the country had already lost almost a million
Christians. The result was an almost entirely Muslim state.
Turkey is still home to about 100,000 Christians. Their status is one of the
barometers being used to determine Turkey's suitability for European Union
membership, making the murder of Father Santoro especially inconvenient for
the administration in Ankara, which is rooted in Islam but is doing its
utmost to portray Turkey as tolerant and liberal-minded. "The gunshots were
not just aimed at Santoro, but also at the atmosphere of stability Turkey
enjoys today," says Interior Minister Abdülkadir Aksu. Foreign Minister
Abdullah Gül describes the murder as an "isolated case."
But isolated cases have been on the rise in Turkey.
Churches have few rights
Recently a young man attacked a monk and a priest with a kebab knife in a
Catholic monastery in Mersin, a small city on the Mediterranean. "We are no
longer safe here," says the Vicar Apostolic for Anatolia, Luigi Padovese.
"Until now, Mersin was one of our most peaceful congregations." Nowadays,
the bishop never travels without bodyguards, a precaution the interior
ministry has practically forced him to accept.
Shortly after the murder in Trabzon, nationalist youth attacked a Catholic
priest in Izmir. They grabbed him by the neck and shouted: "We will kill
you!" and "Allahu akbar! God is great!" The priest barely made it to safety.
After the incident, police officers were routinely posted in front of the
church in Izmir, a measure that had already been taken in other cities.
Turkey's Christian minorities had hoped that reforms introduced by the
administration of Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan -- as part of its effort to
gain EU membership -- would not just lead to a few improvements, but to
complete religious freedom. Although Christians are permitted to practice
their faith freely, in many cases their churches have practically no rights
and often have no claim to the property they stand on.
When Bishop Padovese requested work permits for two church employees in
Trabzon, the interior ministry denied his request, arguing that because a
Catholic Church doesn't exist in Turkey, it cannot file requests. "That's
the paradox," says Padovese, "We are here, but legally we don't exist." It
was not until recently that pastors, who were previously registered as
consular employees, have been allowed to register as members of their own
profession.
"The basic level of anti-Christian sentiment has increased," says Felix
Körner, a German Jesuit whom the Vatican sent to Ankara to encourage a
Christian-Islamic dialogue. Turkey's efforts to enter the EU have triggered
nationalist counter-reactions, says Körner. "Even in educated circles,
people are saying that Turkish unity and national sovereignty are in
danger."
Risking physical attack
Conspiracy theories have likewise been making the rounds in Turkey for some
time, producing a climate in which Christians distributing the New Testament
risk being physically attacked. In a sermon against missionaries it
distributed last year, the state religious authority rails against what it
calls "modern crusades," claiming that their goal is to "turn our young
people away from the Islamic faith."
Priests have been accused of seducing women in their churches or encouraging
young people to engage in sinful acts. Father Pierre has already won four
court cases for libel against defendants who had spread rumors that he
routinely watches porno films with young people. To protect himself, he now
maintains the best possible relations with the local Turkish hierarchy,
routinely paying visits to the chief of police, the governor and the mufti.
"It helps," he says.
Sixteen-year-old Oguz, Andrea Santoros's suspected murderer, is currently
being held under high security at the Trabzon prison. Four bodyguards have
been assigned to the boy to prevent him from harming himself or being
silenced by others. He has refused to make any statements.
Was Oguz truly trying to avenge the humiliation of Muslims who saw the
Danish cartoon controversy as an affront to their prophet, as his family
claims? Or was the murder the work of the Mafia, which was incensed over the
church's practice of giving shelter to Russian prostitutes? Or perhaps the
boy, apparently a loner, was a willing tool for nationalist extremists.
According to his family, Oguz, a high-school student, had recently become
"very religious." "He prayed five times a day," says his brother Alpaznar.
His father, who runs a dental laboratory in Trabzon, claims that he first
heard about the Muhammad cartoons from his son. "He was very upset, but I
told him that it was none of his concern."
The father, pale and bald, is constantly jumping up from his chair,
nervously rubbing his hands. He doesn't have a photo of his son, holding up
a newspaper clipping instead. "I feel bad for the boy," he says, sounding
almost as if "the boy" weren't his own child.
Closed for a month
Oguz apparently spent most of his time in an Internet café in a small
shopping center in downtown Trabzon. "He was especially fond of strategy
games," says the owner, Senol Sahin, adding that the boy had recently become
very aggressive. "He would send me e-mails in which he used vile language. I
even hit him once for doing it." Sahin believes the boy is "easily
influenced."
On the morning of the murder, Oguz apparently came home and asked for
directions to the Santa Maria Church. Then, according to his father, he left
the house with his younger brother. The murderer must have known his way
around, because the churchyard one passes through to reach the church lies
in the middle of a group of buildings, and is in full view of half a dozen
apartments, many displaying the Turkish flag in their windows.
The priest's young Italian housekeeper, startled by the shots, claims that
she saw a silhouette, and that it was that of a man, not a boy.
The church remained closed for one month. Meanwhile, Bishop Padovese has
sent two lay assistants and a visiting Polish pastor to Trabzon, so that the
church can be kept open at least two or three times a week for the few
Christians who still live in Trabzon.
* Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan
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TOPIC: Thank you, India admirer !
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Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 6:00 pm
From: "Seeker" <4not_listed_due_to_spam_bots_121101@dont.reply>
<gunjan.ghai@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Seeker
>
> I will answer the rest of your stuff later....keeping a little busy
>
> On Bahawalpur...yes....My ancestors are from that place....I am told
> that there is a place called machhi bazaar or something like that....my
> folks left during the partition days....there was a 'mohalla' which was
> called 'ghaiyan da mohalla' I guess
I know there were and still are Christians and Hindus in Bahalwpur. Why did
your folks leave during the partition?
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TOPIC: U.S.S. LIBERTY
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Date: Fri, Apr 14 2006 6:07 pm
From: "Tell it like it is."
http://www.sweetliberty.org
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