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* 3d Page turning eBooks on SriSaiBaba free to all. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/947447f81019c654
* ARE JEWS CLEVER? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b06ca1ae958afc21
* First, secure our borders - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a733ffbc299e3bd9
* Some say Iran's weapons come from Russia - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/938d3d0d2a6b5e90
* Iran asked help from Turkey to eliminate PKK - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5be3152b906bc6c0
* the Russians agree to help the Palestinans with money - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e4956100f61187d7
* THERMITE USED IN WTC DEMOLITION - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b5dc051ba7c1a4a9
* DEAD-END DEBATES - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6af889c7df24e826
* Generals report Rumsfeld incompetence; Bush responds, "Attaboy, Rummy!" - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f1707ebfbe4b5f38
* WITH FRIENDS LIKE KIKES, AMERICA NEEDS NO ENEMIES! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cd9b460263d94174
* Government Goons Murder Puppies - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d5d011b0e073077d
* Russian space program lost in space? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/24a76ad9c6403fd8
* US Training Guyanese for Venez Invasion? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7ced482aa865f60d
* Islam has four times as many young men of fighting age as the west - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/224b0236d0f9929f
* Republicans in the News - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/55a2a2261257b6b
* Shias add fuel to hatred with 'gangsta-rap' incitement - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cfdd29c7dd22d1bb
* Iranian Crisis Traced To Israeli Nukes and U.S.-Europe Policies - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ac92afc43cee3d62
* Battle in Afghanistan continuing - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f2a8dfe0280c1b7d
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TOPIC: 3d Page turning eBooks on SriSaiBaba free to all.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/947447f81019c654
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 5:32 pm
From: "Tell it like it is."
Habshi,
Are you, like a child, saying the opposite of what you
mean? It just happens that I was talking with a person in India today.
He told me he is a Christian. In fact all three Hindus told me they are
in fact Christian when I spoke with the customer service representative
about my inability to connect with the internet.
Do you know that a professor in England asked his niece to stand in
front of the mirror with an apple in her right hand. The mathematics
professor who had a fetish about puzzles asked her in which hand the
little girl in the mirror was holding Newton's apple? She said in her
left hand "But if I was the little girl inside the mirror" said the
professor's niece "I would be holding the apple in my right hand."
That's how Lewis Caroll came to write Through The Looking Glass.
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TOPIC: ARE JEWS CLEVER?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b06ca1ae958afc21
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 7:41 pm
From: AnonMoos
Most people of no matter what religion are bound to be smarter than you,
StriderCabal!
--
المتبرجة خير
من الإرهابي
المنتحر
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 9:06 pm
From: "serwad"
"AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message
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> Most people of no matter what religion are bound to be smarter than you,
Thanks Moose! For the compliments. However, I do not see anything impressive
about your bullshit!
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TOPIC: First, secure our borders
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a733ffbc299e3bd9
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 5:34 pm
From: johnwesley55@lycos.com
ed wrote:
> First, secure our borders
>
>
> Editor's note: Arnold Schwarzenegger was invited to appear on "Lou Dobbs
> Tonight" to discuss immigration, but he declined.
>
>
> California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today called our current immigration
> system "bad policy" in a Wall Street Journal editorial.
>
> As the leader of the largest border state on the frontline of the illegal
> immigration crisis, Gov. Schwarzenegger today for the first time partially
> adopted the position I've advocated for the past two years: First, secure
> our borders, then deal with the illegal immigration crisis.
>
> I've repeatedly called for immigration overhaul that's humane, reasonable
> and effective.
>
> I have said straightforwardly that we cannot reform immigration law and
> policy if we cannot control immigration. And we cannot control immigration
> if we cannot secure our borders and our ports.
>
> Shamelessly pandering to the readership of the Wall Street Journal editorial
> pages, Gov. Schwarzenegger invokes Ronald Reagan's name to declare that we
> can have immigration policies that both strengthen our borders and welcomes
> immigrants.
>
> No, Governor, we can't. National security requires that we control our
> borders and our ports. So does a rational, humane and effective immigration
> policy. Both flow from secure borders.
>
> I repeat, Governor, until we first secure our borders, you can do nothing to
> resolve our illegal immigration crisis.
>
> Middle-class working men and women in your state
> and around the nation are paying the price, while
> illegal employers are enjoying the benefits and
> profits of illegal immigration.
>
> You know full well your public schools in
> California are overcrowded, principally because of illegal
> immigration. Illegal immigration has forced the closing of
> emergency rooms, clinics and hospitals in your state.
>
> Governor, were you talking about me when you said,
> "How ironic it is to hear some of the same voices
> who complain about the outsourcing of jobs also
> complain about the use of immigrant workers here in America"?
>
> If so, be a man, Governor, use names. You know my name. And don't call
> illegal aliens "immigrants." You insult legal immigrants when you do.
>
> You know as well as I do that I've never complained
> about "immigrant workers" in this country, only illegal
> aliens and illegal employers who break the law.
>
>
> Just so we're clear about the connection between
> illegal labor in this country and the outsourcing
> of jobs to cheap foreign labor markets: Both are
> part of corporate America's drive to lower wages
> in this country for middle-class working men and women.
>
>
> And when you talk about "the use of immigrant workers here
> in America," you sound more like one of those
> corporatists that dominate our political system right
> now than a leader of all of the people in your state.
>
> You know, including the tens of millions of legal citizens that happen to
> live in California.
>
>
> By Lou Dobbs CNN
>
> see complete article at.......
> http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/10/schwarzenegger/index.html
Sounds like Arnold has started licking those hispanic asses.
John
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TOPIC: Some say Iran's weapons come from Russia
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/938d3d0d2a6b5e90
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 8:35 pm
From: "TBD"
"captain." <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
news:Uwe0g.55208$K11.53215@clgrps12...
>
> "TBD" <yournamehere@yourdomain.com> wrote in message
> news:Yo80g.117$Jw2.95@fe10.lga...
>>
>> "captain." <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
>> news:q450g.13396$Zl.4063@edtnps89...
>>>
>>> "MTRPT" <Mir.Topolski@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:1145096239.610034.245930@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>>>> TBD wrote:
>>>>> "Andrzej Adam Filip" wrote:
>>>>> > Does USA threat military action against Iran?
>>>>> No. The USA has repeatedly said it wants a diplomatic solution.
>>>>
>>>> C'mon Brookski. Even Krapo knows that US diplomacy = oxymoron.
>>>>
>>>
>>> i believe that the usa will not invade iran.
>>>
>>> but imagine they do... can you say "draft"?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No need for a draft. Just cruise-missile every Iranian powerplant and no
>> more centrifuges.
>>
> oh, but then you will need to look for all of the hidden places. you can't
> do that without manpower. iran's a large country.
>
The US basically ended Iraq nuke program after the first gulf war. Destroy
Iran's economy and they will lose interest in nukes, same as Iraq.
You don't have to destroy or occupy Iran, just neutralize them.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 8:49 pm
From: "TBD"
"Andrzej Adam Filip" <anfi@priv.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:87psjitwgz.fsf@anfi.homeunix.net...
> "TBD" <yournamehere@yourdomain.com> writes:
>
>> "Andrzej Adam Filip" <anfi@priv.onet.pl> wrote in message
>> news:87lku6u8tj.fsf@anfi.homeunix.net...
>>> "TBD" <yournamehere@yourdomain.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> "captain." <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:q450g.13396$Zl.4063@edtnps89...
>>>>>
>>>>> "MTRPT" <Mir.Topolski@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1145096239.610034.245930@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> TBD wrote:
>>>>>>> "Andrzej Adam Filip" wrote:
>>>>>>> > Does USA threat military action against Iran?
>>>>>>> No. The USA has repeatedly said it wants a diplomatic solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C'mon Brookski. Even Krapo knows that US diplomacy = oxymoron.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i believe that the usa will not invade iran.
>>>>>
>>>>> but imagine they do... can you say "draft"?
>>>>
>>>> No need for a draft. Just cruise-missile every Iranian powerplant and
>>>> no more centrifuges.
>>>>
>>>> The Serbs learned the hard how the US can bring you down without ever
>>>> touching foot on your soil.
>>>
>>> Are you ready to preach "your wisdom" to US Army troops in Iraq?
>>>
>>> If you think that any serious aerial offensive against Iran can go
>>> without "increased" US Army casualties in Iraq then you are "wise" as
>>> George Walker Bush.
>>>
>>> Iran had a lot of time to prepare responses for multiple scenarios.
>>
>> You should change your name to Neville Chamberlain.
>>
>> We all know how Europe responded to Hitler in 1939. It's deja vu all
>> over again with Ahmadeenadingdong in Iran.
>
> Would air offensive only stop Hitler in 1938/1939?
>
Russians or French certainly weren't capable.
> Starting any more serious military action (e.g. full blown aerial
> offensive) against Iran without showing *convincing* signs of being
> ready for *very significant military escalation* would be *incredibly*
> stupid. There are too many live US Army targets in Iraq.
> [we do not want escalation, we hope it will not occur but we are ready]
>
Well, Iran has to get to somewhere to attack if no one invades. The US will
see and Iranians coming well in advance.
Cluster bombs have a way of denting one's enthusiasm for agression. JSTARS
means the Iranian Air Force will cease to exist if they come up off the
ground.
>> No war is ever fought the same way twice. Knock out Iran's power
>> plants and oil export capability and then the leadership will have to
>> figure out what to do with 68 million unfed citizens. I'm sure plenty
>> of them remember the war with Saddam and don't want a repeat. Don't
>> forget, there are very few Islamofascists in Iran once you get past
>> the old farts that have power. Iran has a very young population and
>> the affinity with the Islamo-nutjobs in power is very thin. The only
>> way the Iranians can retain power is to convince the people there is
>> a threat on the outside.
>
> You may be right about "thin support" but you are plain idiot if you are
> 100% sure the path of vanishing support you described is the only
> possibility.
>
Everybody was afraid of Iraq in 1990 as the world's 4th largest army. They
were an empty shell.
Iranians have to have logistics to carry out an offensive. They ain't got
none.
If their air force goes aginst the US, they will lose. If their army goes
against the US they will lose. Their only option in a long slow guerilla
campaign.
>> To save face, Ahmadeenadingdong will have to mount a counter
>> attack. Iran has a serviceable air force although it's mostly patched
>> together old stuff. Still if they are defeated by the US Air Force, it
>> would be a horrible humiliation and probably enough to get a change a
>> government. Iran has no hope of mounting a major military attack
>> against the US (Highway of Death). They can try an insurgency but
>> they have to mess around with both the Iraqis and the
>> Afghanis. Neither of them will appreciate the Iranians mucking
>> around. US can play some fun games too.
>
> You suffer serious lack of imagination. You have forced me to cure it:
> Iran can fight USA to the last Iraqis and Afghanistan insurgent.
Is that why Iran surendered to Saddam? Iran has a limited stomach for war.
Saddam taught them one thing...they can lose.
A war will not likely destroy the US economy...the Iranians have little
ability to affect it. But war can desimate the Iranian economy.
> Have you heard about intelligent sound triggered rocket mines?
What are those? Do they explode when navy cruisers pass by at 30,000 feet
altitude...if they are playing Green day music?
> There are *MANY* "medium tech" weapons that can increase US Army
> casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan once Iran stops carrying about being
> detectable as the source.
>
Once Iran becomes the source, they lose their airbases, power plants,
communications, etc, etc. One thing about Serbia, Kuwait and Iraq...the US
is now the most proficient at knowing how to conduct a war. Iranian
infrastructure will cease to exist in short order. Iran fought WWI against
the Iraqis...and lost.
>> Best case, the Iraqis begin to act as one to defeat the Iranian
>> troublemakers.
>
> <irony> Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds will all unite to fight enemies of
> USA </irony>
>
>> Worst case, Bush leaves a big mess for Hillary to clean up.
>
> For *many* democrat's administrations to come.
>
> --
> [pl2en Andre ] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@priv.onet.pl : anfi@xl.wp.pl
> Keep your lies consistent.
> -- The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition #60
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TOPIC: Iran asked help from Turkey to eliminate PKK
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5be3152b906bc6c0
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 8:35 pm
From: "serwad"
"Constantinus" <inmaster@gmx.at> wrote in message
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> The PKK/PEJAK is a Terrorist organization which terrorize , the poor
> kurds in
> Border Iran-Iraq-Turkey.
> why the kurds behave thmself like Hayvans ?
> behave yourself like Zivilized citizen , visit the schools and
> universities , get a job
> Intergrate yourself in country where you are living , donot fight
> against your turk , Arab , iranian brothers.
That would be nice! Since PKK is a Maoist organization heavily supported by
Israel over the pst 25 years. That would mean that PKK would have kikes on
their side!
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TOPIC: the Russians agree to help the Palestinans with money
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e4956100f61187d7
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 16 2006 10:05 am
From: artie morty
On 15 Apr 2006 17:00:02 -0700, "Komin" <veakrin@gmail.com> wrote:
>the Russian government agrees to give money to the Palestinian
>government ,
>in order to help the Palestinian government pay salaries to the
>Palestine Liberation Organisation = P L O .
>the US Black Magic Woman must be very angry .
>
>Colin Powell told lies in the UN concerning the Iraqi weapons of mass
>destruction .
>
>Condi Rice told lies about the Iraqi weapons of mass Destruction .
>
>this shows perfectly well that Blacks in the USA have not evolved at
>all , after 200 years in the USA ,
>them Niggers continue to tell lies in the USA and now in the UN in
>this New Century .
Do you honestly believe that one person's ability to tell lies more
than another is in direct proportion to the colour of their skin.
I must say - it is a unique view.
Artie...
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 5:49 pm
From: "Tell it like it is."
It makes sense, Komin. After all there's no difference between
President and Massa Bush.
After Israel engaged in a policy of pre-emptive strikes and
assasinating Palestine's leaders and clerics Israel can't understand
why Hamas got the votes. Only Israel would have the brass balls to call
all the semitic peoples of the Middle East anti-semites.
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TOPIC: THERMITE USED IN WTC DEMOLITION
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b5dc051ba7c1a4a9
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Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 8:38 pm
From: "serwad"
"captain." <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
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>
> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:IhN%f.920$t61.902@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "captain." <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
>> news:cYp%f.49540$K11.7140@clgrps12...
>>>i notice that all of serwad's postings today have been deleted. is serwad
>>>being moderated now? if so, lol.
>>>
>> Jews play all kinds of tricks, hard to keep up with them. Take a look at
>> this:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2JCLwhwTmM&search=hard%20place
>
> whoever was deleting you has stopped now. there is a fresh , large flood
> of your postings waiting for me today.
>
Nobody is deleting nothing, just the server sometimes puts them in Outbox.
You must love my posts, thanks!
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TOPIC: DEAD-END DEBATES
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6af889c7df24e826
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 7:51 pm
From: AnonMoos
"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> THE PROBLEM WITH IRAQ IS THAT IRAQ DID NOT ATTACK UNITED STATES OR ANY
> OTHER COUNTRY,
You seem to have overlooked the slight cases of Iran, Kuwait, and Israel.
> HAD NO WMD'S
But Saddam was still doing his best to persuade other countries that he
_might_ have WMD's, by deliberately creating ambiguity and uncertainty --
yet another in a long line of Saddam's bone-headed maneuvers!
--
المتبرجة خير
من الإرهابي
المنتحر
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
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TOPIC: Generals report Rumsfeld incompetence; Bush responds, "Attaboy, Rummy!"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f1707ebfbe4b5f38
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Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 5:48 pm
From: Captain Compassion
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 13:57:02 -0700, George Harrison
<G_Harrison@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Captain Compassion wrote:
>> On 15 Apr 2006 11:48:34 -0700, beachshark1@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> So, let me get this straight... Generals of America's fighting forces
>>> who have had to work under the command of Donald Rumsfeld come out
>>> individually with the revelation that much of the problems in the
>>> invasion of Iraq are directly due to Rumsfeld's refusal to truly listen
>>> to the Generals or other military officers, micro-managing with
>>> ill-planned orders instead... and, upon hearing this, George Bush
>>> immediately releases his response, which amounts to an "Attaboy Rummy!
>>> Way to go!" ??????
>>
>> Even Lincoln had his General detractors.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_McClellan#Resumption_of_civilian_career
>>
>>
>
> We all know you equate Bush to Lincoln. Daddy Bush has proclaimed GW as
>another Lincoln at the start of this war.
> Lincoln successfully won his war within 5 years.
Lincoln's armies of the North suffered over 360,000 dead. No Bush is
no Lincoln.
--
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilizaton is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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TOPIC: WITH FRIENDS LIKE KIKES, AMERICA NEEDS NO ENEMIES!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cd9b460263d94174
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 7:57 pm
From: AnonMoos
jsp722@gmail.com wrote:
>AnonMoos wrote:
>>Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>"AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message news:443BF607.803CFFE9@io.com...
>>>>"Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>"AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:44384A59.D7975A96@io.com...
>>>>>>"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>"AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4437AAD2.913BEE6B@io.com...
>>>>>>>>jsp722@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I H V H
>>>>>>>> You're confused about the pronunciation of the consonants of
>>>>>>>> the Tetragrammaton.
>>>>>>> Ask Moose!
>>>>>> You should -- the Biblical Hebrew sound-system is one of my
>>>>>> strongest areas...
>>>>> Gosh! Such a significantly important skill to possess. Bet
>>>>> you're headhunted constantly.
>>>> It sometimes comes in handy when showing up the pretensions of
>>>> ignoramus bigots...
>>> And when does this venture of yours commence?
>> "jsp722@gmail.com" is too pathetic to waste much effort on, but
>> I've been correcting glaring errors for a long time -- see
>> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.palestine/browse_thread/thread/1eb6bb1deabe91e/
>> or (from the other side), my very recent post
>> URL:<news:443FB01E.34CF4DA5@io.com>
> I understand your perplexity.
I'm not in the slightest perplexed -- just contemptuous of your
bigoted ignorance.
> I H V H
You're still confused about the pronunciation of the consonants of
the Tetragrammaton.
--
المتبرجة خير
من الإرهابي
المنتحر
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
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TOPIC: Government Goons Murder Puppies
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d5d011b0e073077d
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 16 2006 12:49 am
From: "Bo Raxo"
"SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message
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> Bo Raxo wrote:
> > "Topquark" <nospam@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:z8WdndWcouH25tzZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@rcn.net...
> >
> >>In a massive 1998 raid at a San Francisco housing co-op, cops shot a
> >>family dog in front of its family, then dragged it outside and shot it
> >>again.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I remember this incident, and the above depiction is ludicrous. A little
> > googling for the details...
> >
> > This was at a federal housing project, not a co-op,in the Western
Addition;
> > the writer's confusion comes from the Martin Luther King Jr./Marcus
Garvey
> > Cooperative. That dog wasn't a family pet, any more than the apartment
was a
> > family's home, it was used by a gang known as the Knock Out Posse as a
> > storefront. The dog was a pit bull, and the raid was on an apartment
that
> > was being used to sell large quantities of illegal drugs. The police
had
> > been running surveillance on the place, and already were wary of that
dog.
> >
>
> Why don't you quote the article you cite, fuckwit?
Why do I have to, if what I write is an accurate summary from the cite?
> Here's what it
> says:
Which is the same thing that I said, fuckwit.
>
> "War on crime
>
> The SFPD used SWAT-style equipment to raid a Western Addition
> housing project. Does military gear encourage military policing?
>
> By Christian Parenti
>
> JUST BEFORE DAWN on Oct. 30, 90 law-enforcement officers wearing
> black masks and fatigues and armed with assault rifles stormed the
> Martin Luther King Jr./Marcus Garvey Cooperative in the Western
> Addition. They used special "shock-lock" shotgun rounds to blow
> apartment doors off their hinges and cleared people out of rooms
> by throwing "flash-bang grenades," which produce nonlethal
> explosions that terrify and disorient people."
>
> And this about the dog: "And a pit bull named Bosco -- which many
> residents described as well liked and friendly -- was shot inside
> an apartment, dragged bleeding outside, and shot again. Deputy
> chief Richard Holder told police commissioners that, according to
> police intelligence gathered during "covert operations," the dog
> was "known for its jumping ability and was shot in mid-air.""
>
> > To give you an idea of the size of the operation, the raid netted a
pound
> > of pot and a quarter of a pound of crack. They arrested 11 people in
that
> > apartment when the bust went down, and between them they had seven
pistols.
> >
>
> Wow, a whole pound of marijuana, and 4 ounces of crack. Yes sir,
> that certainly justified ninety cops busting in the doors of
> mostly innocent people asleep in their beds.
I'd bet the neighbors were glad to lose a little sleep to see the drug
dealers operating next door get taken away. If yoru neighbors were
criminals, sitting there with seven guns between them and a large drug stash
some rivals might want to rob, wouldn't that make you just a *little*
nervous? Wouldn't you be rather *glad* when the police came and hauled off
the thugs you had living next door to you? And you no longer have a string
of criminals and drug addicts walking by your home every day on their way to
do business?
Oh, but holy shit, you might lose some beauty sleep the day the cops make
the raid. Oh how terrible!
How the fuck can you be that stupid?
>
> That's a net win of five grams of weed and one-and-a-half grams of
> crack per cop. A great return on investment.
>
That's an utterly stupid basis for any evaluation. Is it a better
"investment" if they pulled off the raid with *only* ten cops? Would it be
nine times better?
Of course not moron. You use overwhelming force when possible because then
the suspects are less likely to offer resistance. Safer for the innocent
neighbors, safer for the cops, and safer for the perps being arrested.
That's a win-win, you idiot.
Now go crawl back under your rock, and don't come back until you
miraculously grow a brain.
Bo Raxo
> > Source:
> > http://www.sfbg.com/News/33/07/Features/cops.html
> >
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 6:05 pm
From: "T-Bone"
How about you try it and see how that works out for you. Even if you
had the testicular fortitude to try it, cops are better armed, better
trained, and more than likely smarter tham you. I believe the proper
description is "superior to you in every way".
The funny part is that you are one of these pukes that trash talks the
cops but is the first to call them if someone looks at you funny.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 9:07 pm
From: SgtMinor
Bo Raxo wrote:
> "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eJOdnXfG7PznENzZRVn-qg@comcast.com...
>
>>Bo Raxo wrote:
>>
>>>"Topquark" <nospam@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:z8WdndWcouH25tzZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@rcn.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>In a massive 1998 raid at a San Francisco housing co-op, cops shot a
>>>>family dog in front of its family, then dragged it outside and shot it
>>>>again.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I remember this incident, and the above depiction is ludicrous. A little
>>>googling for the details...
>>>
>>>This was at a federal housing project, not a co-op,in the Western
>
> Addition;
>
>>>the writer's confusion comes from the Martin Luther King Jr./Marcus
>
> Garvey
>
>>>Cooperative. That dog wasn't a family pet, any more than the apartment
>
> was a
>
>>>family's home, it was used by a gang known as the Knock Out Posse as a
>>>storefront. The dog was a pit bull, and the raid was on an apartment
>
> that
>
>>>was being used to sell large quantities of illegal drugs. The police
>
> had
>
>>>been running surveillance on the place, and already were wary of that
>
> dog.
>
>>Why don't you quote the article you cite, fuckwit?
>
>
> Why do I have to, if what I write is an accurate summary from the cite?
>
>
>>Here's what it
>>says:
>
>
> Which is the same thing that I said, fuckwit.
>
>
>>"War on crime
>>
>>The SFPD used SWAT-style equipment to raid a Western Addition
>>housing project. Does military gear encourage military policing?
>>
>>By Christian Parenti
>>
>>JUST BEFORE DAWN on Oct. 30, 90 law-enforcement officers wearing
>>black masks and fatigues and armed with assault rifles stormed the
>>Martin Luther King Jr./Marcus Garvey Cooperative in the Western
>>Addition. They used special "shock-lock" shotgun rounds to blow
>>apartment doors off their hinges and cleared people out of rooms
>>by throwing "flash-bang grenades," which produce nonlethal
>>explosions that terrify and disorient people."
>>
>>And this about the dog: "And a pit bull named Bosco -- which many
>>residents described as well liked and friendly -- was shot inside
>>an apartment, dragged bleeding outside, and shot again. Deputy
>>chief Richard Holder told police commissioners that, according to
>>police intelligence gathered during "covert operations," the dog
>>was "known for its jumping ability and was shot in mid-air.""
>>
>>
>>>To give you an idea of the size of the operation, the raid netted a
>
> pound
>
>>>of pot and a quarter of a pound of crack. They arrested 11 people in
>
> that
>
>>>apartment when the bust went down, and between them they had seven
>
> pistols.
>
>>Wow, a whole pound of marijuana, and 4 ounces of crack. Yes sir,
>>that certainly justified ninety cops busting in the doors of
>>mostly innocent people asleep in their beds.
>
>
> I'd bet the neighbors were glad to lose a little sleep to see the drug
> dealers operating next door get taken away. If yoru neighbors were
> criminals, sitting there with seven guns between them and a large drug stash
> some rivals might want to rob, wouldn't that make you just a *little*
> nervous? Wouldn't you be rather *glad* when the police came and hauled off
> the thugs you had living next door to you? And you no longer have a string
> of criminals and drug addicts walking by your home every day on their way to
> do business?
They were ecstatic: "At a Nov. 4 police commission meeting, a
train of furious and sobbing residents from the raided housing
complex -- all of them African American -- described how officers
slapped them, stepped on their necks, and put guns to their heads
while other officers ransacked their homes. Weeping and terrified
children, some as young as six, were handcuffed and separated from
their parents. Some urinated in their pajamas. (Police chief Fred
Lau told the San Francisco Chronicle that officers wanted to keep
the kids from "running around.")
Residents of the complex say the raid was a violation of their
civil rights. Scores of people with no charges against them and no
criminal records were put in disposable plastic "flex-cuffs."
Civil servants and grandmothers were held at gunpoint. One woman
was hospitalized after a fit of seizures; other people were so
distraught they couldn't return to work for days."
Do you even bother to read the stuff you cite?
All of this is a result of the fascistic "war on drugs." This
"war" is nothing but an attempt to violate people's rights, enrich
the criminal community, expand government police powers and
corrupt law enforcement. The criminals I fear are the ones on the
government payroll.
>
> Oh, but holy shit, you might lose some beauty sleep the day the cops make
> the raid. Oh how terrible!
>
> How the fuck can you be that stupid?
>
>
>>That's a net win of five grams of weed and one-and-a-half grams of
>>crack per cop. A great return on investment.
>>
>
>
> That's an utterly stupid basis for any evaluation. Is it a better
> "investment" if they pulled off the raid with *only* ten cops? Would it be
> nine times better?
>
> Of course not moron. You use overwhelming force when possible because then
> the suspects are less likely to offer resistance. Safer for the innocent
> neighbors, safer for the cops, and safer for the perps being arrested.
> That's a win-win, you idiot.
>
> Now go crawl back under your rock, and don't come back until you
> miraculously grow a brain.
>
>
> Bo Raxo
>
>
>>>Source:
>>>http://www.sfbg.com/News/33/07/Features/cops.html
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 6:07 pm
From: "T-Bone"
What's the lesson? Do bad things, bad things happen in return.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 6:18 pm
From: "Bo Raxo"
"SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message
news:QrqdnYVl_-lHBdzZnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Bo Raxo wrote:
> > "SgtMinor" <Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:eJOdnXfG7PznENzZRVn-qg@comcast.com...
> >
> >>Bo Raxo wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Topquark" <nospam@aol.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:z8WdndWcouH25tzZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@rcn.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>In a massive 1998 raid at a San Francisco housing co-op, cops shot a
> >>>>family dog in front of its family, then dragged it outside and shot it
> >>>>again.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I remember this incident, and the above depiction is ludicrous. A
little
> >>>googling for the details...
> >>>
> >>>This was at a federal housing project, not a co-op,in the Western
> >
> > Addition;
> >
> >>>the writer's confusion comes from the Martin Luther King Jr./Marcus
> >
> > Garvey
> >
> >>>Cooperative. That dog wasn't a family pet, any more than the apartment
> >
> > was a
> >
> >>>family's home, it was used by a gang known as the Knock Out Posse as a
> >>>storefront. The dog was a pit bull, and the raid was on an apartment
> >
> > that
> >
> >>>was being used to sell large quantities of illegal drugs. The police
> >
> > had
> >
> >>>been running surveillance on the place, and already were wary of that
> >
> > dog.
> >
> >>Why don't you quote the article you cite, fuckwit?
> >
> >
> > Why do I have to, if what I write is an accurate summary from the cite?
> >
> >
> >>Here's what it
> >>says:
> >
> >
> > Which is the same thing that I said, fuckwit.
> >
> >
> >>"War on crime
> >>
> >>The SFPD used SWAT-style equipment to raid a Western Addition
> >>housing project. Does military gear encourage military policing?
> >>
> >>By Christian Parenti
> >>
> >>JUST BEFORE DAWN on Oct. 30, 90 law-enforcement officers wearing
> >>black masks and fatigues and armed with assault rifles stormed the
> >>Martin Luther King Jr./Marcus Garvey Cooperative in the Western
> >>Addition. They used special "shock-lock" shotgun rounds to blow
> >>apartment doors off their hinges and cleared people out of rooms
> >>by throwing "flash-bang grenades," which produce nonlethal
> >>explosions that terrify and disorient people."
> >>
> >>And this about the dog: "And a pit bull named Bosco -- which many
> >>residents described as well liked and friendly -- was shot inside
> >>an apartment, dragged bleeding outside, and shot again. Deputy
> >>chief Richard Holder told police commissioners that, according to
> >>police intelligence gathered during "covert operations," the dog
> >>was "known for its jumping ability and was shot in mid-air.""
> >>
> >>
> >>>To give you an idea of the size of the operation, the raid netted a
> >
> > pound
> >
> >>>of pot and a quarter of a pound of crack. They arrested 11 people in
> >
> > that
> >
> >>>apartment when the bust went down, and between them they had seven
> >
> > pistols.
> >
> >>Wow, a whole pound of marijuana, and 4 ounces of crack. Yes sir,
> >>that certainly justified ninety cops busting in the doors of
> >>mostly innocent people asleep in their beds.
> >
> >
> > I'd bet the neighbors were glad to lose a little sleep to see the drug
> > dealers operating next door get taken away. If yoru neighbors were
> > criminals, sitting there with seven guns between them and a large drug
stash
> > some rivals might want to rob, wouldn't that make you just a *little*
> > nervous? Wouldn't you be rather *glad* when the police came and hauled
off
> > the thugs you had living next door to you? And you no longer have a
string
> > of criminals and drug addicts walking by your home every day on their
way to
> > do business?
>
> They were ecstatic: "At a Nov. 4 police commission meeting, a
> train of furious and sobbing residents from the raided housing
> complex -- all of them African American -- described how officers
> slapped them, stepped on their necks, and put guns to their heads
> while other officers ransacked their homes. Weeping and terrified
> children, some as young as six, were handcuffed and separated from
> their parents. Some urinated in their pajamas. (Police chief Fred
> Lau told the San Francisco Chronicle that officers wanted to keep
> the kids from "running around.")
>
> Residents of the complex say the raid was a violation of their
> civil rights. Scores of people with no charges against them and no
> criminal records were put in disposable plastic "flex-cuffs."
> Civil servants and grandmothers were held at gunpoint. One woman
> was hospitalized after a fit of seizures; other people were so
> distraught they couldn't return to work for days."
>
> Do you even bother to read the stuff you cite?
Sure. I wasn't originally making the point that this was the most well run
raid in the world, my point was that it wasn't a simple "some cop shot the
family dog for no reason" kind of situation. The OP's article didn't
accurately portray the incident, compared to the article I cited (and
summaraized).
Just because the neighbors didn't like the way the cops ran the raid (and
there were some questions at the time as to how many people *actually* were
detained by police at the time versus how many were *claiming* so a week
later, much like a bus crash), doesn't mean they weren't glad to see drug
dealing gang members gone from their midst.
>
> All of this is a result of the fascistic "war on drugs." This
> "war" is nothing but an attempt to violate people's rights, enrich
> the criminal community, expand government police powers and
> corrupt law enforcement. The criminals I fear are the ones on the
> government payroll.
>
The war on drugs is largely a waste and in broad terms a failure. Causes a
lot of unneccesary deaths, sure.
My point, nimrod, was that the incident was NOT what the article he'd quoted
protrayed: that simply a family dog was dragged out and shot in front of
the neighbords.
I notice you don't even bother to defend your nutty "grams of drugs per cop"
argument, so I'll assume you realize how silly that one was.
Bo Raxo
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TOPIC: Russian space program lost in space?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/24a76ad9c6403fd8
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 8:55 pm
From: "serwad"
"TBD" <yournamehere@yourdomain.com> wrote in message
news:PDK%f.58$y_6.30@fe11.lga...
>
> <vkarlamov@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1144970448.798762.19130@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> TBD wrote:
>>> Have you noticed there is virtually never any news about Russia's space
>>> program. At the same time, there's an endless stream of news coming out
>>> of
>>> NASA.
>>>
>>> Russia allocated money for 10 years, the same amount NASA spends in one
>>> year.
>>>
>>
>> I am surprised. Why does Russia need to spend so much?
>>
>> Russia and USA are at totally different stages of their space
>> development. Russia has accumulated the knowledge how to make a space
>> ship at about one hundresth o fthe cost of Americna sapceships, and now
>> knows how to safely send craft into Space with about 99.9% reliability.
>>
>
> By now they should. They've been flying the same spacecraft for 40 years.
> But according to your logic, Russia has no need to play the beggar, trying
> to get other people to pay for developing the Clipper.
>
>>
>> Thus, the Russian space program should be beyond the break-even
>> point, and the government shouldn't spenda nymoney at all on it,
>> because it should pay for itself by charging market prices to other
>> countries without the space expertise, be it Chinese or Rwandans or
>> Americans or Somalis.
>
> How much money has Russia made selling to the Somali space program?
>
>>Unfortunatle, because of their charitable
>> character, Rusisans have ben charging other countries nothing or next
>> to nothing for the use of their ships.
>>
>> On the other hand, since the death of Wernher Von Bruan and his fellow
>> German Nazi scientists, USA lost the knowledge as to how make
>> spaceships that don't explode upon re-entry. I don't know whether this
>> is because Von Braun didn't take notes or because the Americnas can't
>> find a German-language transaltor.
>>
>
> ...and do tell us about the Russian N-1 rocket...which never had a
> successful launch. It has a perfect record...100% failure.
>
>> Thus, USA has to allocate a lot of money to NASA in order to pay
>> Russians for the use of their ships, in case Russians start charging a
>> full price for them.
>>
>> Plus, USA has to re-invent the space travel technology, lost with the
>> death of Von Braun. That will probably mean having to build and then
>> lose some 50 to 100 new ships to expolsions, before NASA re-learns how
>> to make safe ones.
>>
>>>
>>> Even with all that oil money, the Russian space program and Russian
>>> military
>>> has never recovered. Soon the Russians will be buying all their arms
>>> from
>>> China anyway.
>>>
>>
>> You may be suprized to know that it is China that's buying its arms
>> from Russia. And the way it looks, so will all other countries in Asia,
>> Africa and Latin America.
>
> China is buying what it currently can't build itself. China just bought 80
> more Boeings. It buys from Russia to learn the techology. Then it builds
> whatever it is itself.
>
>>Russia is about to become a monopolist on
>> selling arms to non-NATO countries. Only NATO countries are stuck
>> buying American-made crap.
>
> As with everything, you are wrong again. NATO may use AN-124's as an
> interim airlifter because the Europeans won't be able to build the A400 in
> significant numbers until 2025. By then, armgeddon could have come and
> gone. Australia decided not to wait for the lazy Euros and bought Boeing
> C-17's instead.
And C-17 in Australia proved to be a total failutre. None of the features
that were supposed to make it invisible to the radar work. Canberra is
trying to scrap the deal!
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TOPIC: US Training Guyanese for Venez Invasion?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7ced482aa865f60d
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 5:57 pm
From: "Christopher Helms"
>[GRAIN OF SALT DEPARTMENT: This is a fairly nutty conspiracy-theory source,
>loaded with 9-11 conspiracies, etc., but we're distributing it because it
>sounds plausible and because Madsen isn't always off the mark. It's worth
>keeping this report in mind and investigating further. -NY Transfer]
>Wayne Madsen Report - Apr 13, 2006
>http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
You don't need too much salt. Madsen tends to have pretty good sources.
If he's reporting that Dubya is going to try to destabilize Venezuela
using US missionaries and right wing fanatics trained in Florida, it's
probably a pretty safe bet that CIA is at the very least seriously
considering it. You'd think in the midst of a "global war on terror,"
destroying a democratically elected leader in Venezuela whose only
crime is selling Venezuelan oil at a price the Bush family considers
unacceptably low would not be such a high priority for them. But lets
face it, for his entire adult life the relationship between George W
Bush and the oil interests has been like the relationship between the
drill sergeant and Leonard in 'Full Metal Jacket,' with Bush being
Leonard. When he fucks up, or they want him to do something they smack
him across the eyes and remind him of who is in charge. "To hell with
terrorism you stupid maggot, we need you to juice the oil markets to a
hundred dollars a barrel. That's a hundred, Pyle!!! Nevermind Bin
Laden. Cheap oil is the real threat. Step and fetch, Chimpy."
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TOPIC: Islam has four times as many young men of fighting age as the west
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/224b0236d0f9929f
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 16 2006 12:50 am
From: hi@anony (habshi)
The west is doomed . its population is collapsing as women
have just one child each . Britain will fall from 50m whites to just
5m by the end of this century. Hindus, Jews too have small families
not replacing themselves. Evolution favours the prolfic and soon Islam
will take over the planet as an aging west refuses to let its
vanishing children to fight .
excerpt telegraph.co.uk
Last year, it was after another khalvat that Ahmadinejad announced his
intention to stand for president. Now, he boasts that the Imam gave
him the presidency for a single task: provoking a "clash of
civilisations" in which the Muslim world, led by Iran, takes on the
"infidel" West, led by the United States, and defeats it in a slow but
prolonged contest that, in military jargon, sounds like a low
intensity, asymmetrical war.
In Ahmadinejad's analysis, the rising Islamic "superpower" has
decisive advantages over the infidel. Islam has four times as many
young men of fighting age as the West, with its ageing populations.
Hundreds of millions of Muslim "ghazis" (holy raiders) are keen to
become martyrs while the infidel youths, loving life and fearing
death, hate to fight. Islam also has four-fifths of the world's oil
reserves, and so controls the lifeblood of the infidel. More
importantly, the US, the only infidel power still capable of fighting,
is hated by most other nations.
According to this analysis, spelled out in commentaries by
Ahmadinejad's strategic guru, Hassan Abassi, known as the "Dr
Kissinger of Islam", President George W Bush is an aberration, an
exception to a rule under which all American presidents since Truman,
when faced with serious setbacks abroad, have "run away". Iran's
current strategy, therefore, is to wait Bush out. And that, by "divine
coincidence", corresponds to the time Iran needs to develop its
nuclear arsenal, thus matching the only advantage that the infidel
enjoys.
Moments after Ahmadinejad announced "the atomic miracle", the head of
the Iranian nuclear project, Ghulamreza Aghazadeh, unveiled plans for
manufacturing 54,000 centrifuges, to enrich enough uranium for
hundreds of nuclear warheads. "We are going into mass production," he
boasted.
The Iranian plan is simple: playing the diplomatic game for another
two years until Bush becomes a "lame-duck", unable to take military
action against the mullahs, while continuing to develop nuclear
weapons.
Thus do not be surprised if, by the end of the 12 days still left of
the United Nations' Security Council "deadline", Ahmadinejad announces
a "temporary suspension" of uranium enrichment as a "confidence
building measure". Also, don't be surprised if some time in June he
agrees to ask the Majlis (the Islamic parliament) to consider signing
the additional protocols of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty
(NPT).
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TOPIC: Republicans in the News
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/55a2a2261257b6b
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 6:04 pm
From: nobody@nowheres.com (the_blogologist)
Wow. That's almost as long as Bill Clinton's scandal list!!
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TOPIC: Shias add fuel to hatred with 'gangsta-rap' incitement
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cfdd29c7dd22d1bb
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 9:13 pm
From: Voice Of Reason <>
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:54:29 -0700, Von Bailey
<ovbailey@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:
>On 15 Apr 2006 08:03:47 -0700, "Steve" <sdaniel13@speakeasy.net>
>wrote:
>
>>You're getting defensive for no good reason. Why do you think he's
>>using racist stereotypes?
>
>Because he does. He admits to it.
Who "admits" to using "racist stereotypes" around here?
>>Maybe he's bearing in mind that African
>>Americans are poorer per capita than whites, less well educated per
>>capita than whites, all for reasons that have nothing to do with
>>African Americans per se and everything to do with a system that's
>>geared to benefit those who are white and wealthy.
>
>Because he's on record as not agreeing with that POV. A reading of
>his posts for would demonstrate that.
Actually, a reading of nearly any thoughtful and honest person's
commentaries would show that Steve is wrong, and that most of what
ails the black community *today* can be traced to self-destructive
behavior, without any input from whites whatsoever.
>>Fact is, violent
>>crime is more of a problem in the African American community, but the
>>explanation of this is sociological, not racial. Instead of criticizing
>>this guy, you should be agreeing with him.
>>
>And you have a right to your opinion. I on the other hand have the
>right to agree with whoever I want using my own standards.
As if you had anything worthy of that word. On that point, Steve is
right.
>>And rap music? Just one more tool in Whitey's little toolkit to keep
>>African Americans in the hoods and out of the board rooms.
>
>Which assumes that 'board rooms' are a good or the only place to be
>successful, or that 'whitey' controls all rap. Both are incorrect
>assumptions.
On that point, we agree that Steve is wrong, though I suspect for a
host of very different reasons.
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TOPIC: Iranian Crisis Traced To Israeli Nukes and U.S.-Europe Policies
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ac92afc43cee3d62
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 8:22 pm
From: AnonMoos
You forgot the bloodthirsty wannabe-genocidal threats issued by that
contemptible asshole Ahmadinajad, as he foamed and frothed at the mouth...
--
المتبرجة خير
من الإرهابي
المنتحر
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
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TOPIC: Battle in Afghanistan continuing
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f2a8dfe0280c1b7d
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 15 2006 6:24 pm
From: AnonMoos
And you're rooting for the Taliban to reinstitute crackdowns on
"beard-trimming", executions in soccer stadiums, and a ban on
female education -- aren't you, Abu Alfalfa?
--
المتبرجة خير
من الإرهابي
المنتحر
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
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