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Saturday, April 08, 2006
  25 new messages in 20 topics - digest ==>Read...


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Today's topics:

* 3 INNOCENT MUSLIMS GO FREE! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b23c7ec1313e257a
* Another immigration bill rant... - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/21f4de35e065fe4
* WITNESSES TO ISRAELI CRIMES SOUGHT! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3516b74e8801d362
* WITH FRIENDS LIKE KIKES, AMERICA NEEDS NO ENEMIES! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cd9b460263d94174
* Consultant - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d98850b44a641fb2
* MURDERING FOR FUN - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cb5ff12b53335f74
* Ha! GOD Turns the Tables on Tennessee Sinners! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5e1ca2b7511c440
* MUSLIM TERRORIST, BOMB 'MASTERMIND' ARRESTED - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/89cf6932e73f48c6
* Yale F. Edeiken Caught Lying About His Criminal Record (And This is the Man
Ken McVay Cites for his FACTS!!) - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e96057c791437cd
* ZHID/Jew Stranglehold on Media - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6e071da144ba3646
* Goodbye Europe - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/45e5b9700b1e9ac3
* Colorado: Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f1882ac30dc275
* Should Hiroshima and Nagasaki bar US investment and merchandise ? - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4ff4bcb10541ff10
* ANCIENT BHARAT PRODUCED FIRST DENTISTS, 9,000 YEARS AGO - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/fa48f4520b0ca711
* SECURING THE KIKE REALM - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8dd1ed5cdcb29a1b
* Border battle is taking toll on desert's wildlife - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dc2c4c016bd9c4aa
* How Israel Can Win - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/202c3742c1496c1c
* Black Scholar Fearz Future of Young Black Men - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2e5f10360af7e066
* 'Indian Govts Hard on Hindus, Their Temples, Soft on All Others' - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4b41d37ee50e93b1
* THE DANGERS OF MONOTHEISM IN THE AGE OF GLOBALIZATION - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6fb2598d29cdefc8

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TOPIC: 3 INNOCENT MUSLIMS GO FREE!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b23c7ec1313e257a
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 7:16 pm
From: "serwad"

UNLIKE IN U.S. WHERE SAMI EL ARIAN SITS IN JAIL FOR THREE YEARS WITHOUT
CHARGE OR CONVICTION
3 terror convictions thrown out by court

Items compiled from Tribune news services
Published April 8, 2006

MADRID, SPAIN -- Spain's Supreme Court on Friday threw out the convictions
of three men found guilty last year of being part of an Al Qaeda-linked
group after prosecutors agreed there was not sufficient evidence to jail
them, a court official said.

The men--Driss Chebli, Sadik Merizak and Abdelaziz Benyaich--had received
sentences of 6 to 8 years--Chebli for collaboration with an Al Qaeda-linked
terror group, and the others for belonging to a terror organization. They
were among 18 people convicted in a high-profile trial linked to the Sept.
11, 2001, attacks.

Prosecutors this week acknowledged there was not sufficient evidence to jail
the men and the court agreed, said the court official, who spoke on
condition of anonymity because rules prohibit him from being identified. The
court was hearing appeals by all 18 people.

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TOPIC: Another immigration bill rant...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/21f4de35e065fe4
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 4:21 pm
From: ensenadajim

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:30:20 GMT, "Lets Roll"
<letsroll@meet-me-in-hell.com> wrote:

>Racial profiling is the excuse. Nobody is supposed to notice that 80% of
>the illegal aliens are from Mexico and the rest speak Spanish.
>

You are wrong. Many speak Russian, French, German, and a host of other
languages. But you're an ignorant redneck so all those languages sound
just like Spanish to you.

jim

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 4:39 pm
From: "Stan de SD"

"ensenadajim" <ensenadaXXXjim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g3hg32hfab3u7krk5aifqtgu6mmhq2umlc@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:30:20 GMT, "Lets Roll"
> <letsroll@meet-me-in-hell.com> wrote:
>
> >Racial profiling is the excuse. Nobody is supposed to notice that 80% of
> >the illegal aliens are from Mexico and the rest speak Spanish.
> >
>
> You are wrong. Many speak Russian, French, German, and a host of other
> languages.

What are those percentages?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 4:50 pm
From: "nospamplease"

Too much "political correctness."

___
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http://aroundtheuniverse.blogspot.com

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TOPIC: WITNESSES TO ISRAELI CRIMES SOUGHT!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3516b74e8801d362
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 7:29 pm
From: "serwad"

WANTED EYE WITNESS TESTIMONY TO ISRAELI WAR CRIMES

In a continuing effort to obtain the arrest of high-ranking Israeli
officers, when they travel outside of Israel, several legal organisations
are looking to receive testimonies from internationals who witnessed war
crimes, whilst in the West Bank or Gaza.

These organisations are aware that every international who has travelled to
Palestine will have witnessed the crimes of the occupation, however lawyers
are seeking cases which are strong enough to be submitted to court, based on
evidence provided by actual witnesses to crimes.

The crimes they are looking for are:

a.. House Demolitions - particularly where they were extensive or carried
out deliberately as a form of punishment
b.. Killings
c.. Torture.
If you witnessed any of these, please write a short email to the UK lawyer
Daniel Machover at dmachover@hickmanandrose.co.uk.

You will need to state:

a.. Who was the victim
b.. The date and time it happened
c.. What happened preceding and after the event
d.. Whether any Palestinians made a complaint at the time and who has
their testimony such as a local lawyer or human rights organisation
e.. What supporting evidence you have, such as photos or video footage
(please state whether this is unedited or not.)
Cases are being prepared in several countries around the world, so it
doesn't matter which country you are living in, your testimony could prove
useful somewhere.

You do not have to make a decision now as to whether you want to be a
witness in court. This is a long-term legal project, with the possibility
that your testimony might never be used - the lawyers at this point are
gathering information in order to build cases. Lawyers will not use your
name without your permission

We are also seeking information on which commanders and which military units
were operating in which areas at which times (now and in the past.) If you
can provide any names, even if you were not a witness to a crime, this
could prove useful.

For more information about this, please read news story at

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3221339,00.html
If English is not your first language, help will be given with translation.
Please also forward this email to any Palestinian living abroad who
witnessed or was a victim of war crimes and would like to participate.

Your Comments

canpalnet-ottawa.org

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TOPIC: WITH FRIENDS LIKE KIKES, AMERICA NEEDS NO ENEMIES!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cd9b460263d94174
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 6:42 pm
From: AnonMoos

"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>"AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message news:4437AAD2.913BEE6B@io.com...
>>jsp722@gmail.com wrote:

>>> I
>>> H
>>> V
>>> H

>> You're confused about the pronunciation of the consonants of the
>> Tetragrammaton.

> Ask Moose!

You should -- the Biblical Hebrew sound-system is one of my strongest
areas...

--
&#1575;&#1604;&#1605;&#1578;&#1576;&#1585;&#1580;&#1577; &#1582;&#1610;&#1585;
&#1605;&#1606; &#1575;&#1604;&#1573;&#1585;&#1607;&#1575;&#1576;&#1610;
&#1575;&#1604;&#1605;&#1606;&#1578;&#1581;&#1585;
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 9:45 am
From: "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com>

"AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message
news:44384A59.D7975A96@io.com...
> "serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>"AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message
>>news:4437AAD2.913BEE6B@io.com...
>>>jsp722@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>> I
>>>> H
>>>> V
>>>> H
>
>>> You're confused about the pronunciation of the consonants of the
>>> Tetragrammaton.
>
>> Ask Moose!
>
> You should -- the Biblical Hebrew sound-system is one of my strongest
> areas...

Gosh! Such a significantly important skill to possess. Bet you're headhunted
constantly.

>
> --
> &#1575;&#1604;&#1605;&#1578;&#1576;&#1585;&#1580;&#1577;
> &#1582;&#1610;&#1585;
> &#1605;&#1606; &#1575;&#1604;&#1573;&#1585;&#1607;&#1575;&#1576;&#1610;
> &#1575;&#1604;&#1605;&#1606;&#1578;&#1581;&#1585;
> Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/

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TOPIC: Consultant
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d98850b44a641fb2
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 7:37 pm
From: "Frank Arthur"

See. You don't need to do these things. They are already being worked on
their destructive courses.

"Suicide Bomber" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
news:20060408223747.15313.qmail@web35511.mail.mud.yahoo.com...
> As for now, and if I am consulted, I would recommend that Israel and the
> Palestinian should
> continue to fight each other like no body business. The political problems
> should intensify in
> Nepal. More destructive suicide bombings should be carried in Iraq. Iran
> and North Korea should
> continue to build and store nuclear weapons. The US should give each one
> of them a nuke and see
> what happen. More Islamic cartoons should be drawn to trigger more Muslim
> protest and violent
> demonstration. Muslims trouble makers should continue to bomb southern
> Thailand. Anti Thaksin
> street mobs should carry on in Bangkok as long as possible. Singapore and
> Malaysia should use and
> try out some of their war arsenals over the crooked bridge. China and
> Taiwan should go to war over
> the Taiwan issue. Tamil Tigers should start fighting the Singhalese
> government. India and Pakistan
> should start fighting each other over the Kashmir issue.
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com

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TOPIC: MURDERING FOR FUN
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/cb5ff12b53335f74
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 6:46 pm
From: AnonMoos

"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>"AnonMoos" <anonmoos@io.com> wrote in message news:4437AA34.F53BB56A@io.com...
>>"serwad" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>> But now, who tore Iraq apart but this ugly occupation?

>> "Before America invaded Iraq it was a happy place. They had
>> flowering meadows and rainbow skies, and rivers made of
>> chocolate, where the children danced and laughed and played with
>> gumdrop smiles."
>> -- Sean Penn in "Team America: World Police"

> ACTUALLY THEY DID! MURDERING ARMY OF THE COALITION HAS KILLED AT LEAST
> 300,000 IRAQIS IN THREE YEARS, TORTURED AND MUTILATED JUST AS MANY, GEORGE
> BUSH SHOULD BE SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO SADDAM

Glad to see that you take the satircal sentiments uttered by lambasted
characters parodized in pornographic wooden puppet movies so seriously,
StriderCabal! Were you with Hans Blix in North Korea?

--
Hamas motto: &#1604;&#1575; &#1573;&#1604;&#1607; &#1604;&#1607;&#1605;
&#1573;&#1604;&#1575; &#1575;&#1604;&#1605;&#1608;&#1578;&#1548;
«&#1581;&#1605;&#1575;&#1587;» &#1585;&#1587;&#1608;&#1604;
&#1575;&#1604;&#1605;&#1608;&#1578; (The death-worshipping cult)
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/

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TOPIC: Ha! GOD Turns the Tables on Tennessee Sinners!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/5e1ca2b7511c440
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 11:39 pm
From: Woden

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in news:49qrcoFps8p6U1
@individual.net:

>
> <perryneheum@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144513243.844123.213890@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> For decades of hateful racism, segregation, anti-Semitism, red-neckism,
>> Confederate flag-waving, white's only evangelism and fundamentalism,
>> YOU ARE NOW feeling God's condign punishment for your intolerance and
>> hypocrisy!
>>
>> Think this round of storms was bad? Wait'll next time. As you
>> sub-human semi-literates are fond of saying to "others,"
>>
>> "You brought this on yourselves!"
>
> What the hell is your problem?

Uhhh. Robin, I think he was being sarcastic...

--
Woden

"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."

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TOPIC: MUSLIM TERRORIST, BOMB 'MASTERMIND' ARRESTED
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/89cf6932e73f48c6
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 11:47 pm
From: usenet@mantra.comi4ng and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In the brains vs. brawn contest, Bharatiya law enforcement
wins against those in most other countries.

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

In article <1144512832.050050.114750@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"fruitella" <visualseeplus@yahoo.com> posted:
> Got to give credit to the Indian police. Despite a shoe string budget,
> they are able to crack these high profile terrorism cases with real
> speed lately. Not that its any surprise that muslims are behind just
> about every terrorist activity in the world today.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > MUSLIM TERRORIST, BOMB 'MASTERMIND' ARRESTED
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4878416.stm
> >
> > Facts about terrorist Islam and Muslims:
> >
> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > Om Shanti
>

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TOPIC: Yale F. Edeiken Caught Lying About His Criminal Record (And This is the
Man Ken McVay Cites for his FACTS!!)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e96057c791437cd
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 5:52 pm
From: Harry Mazal

Looks like the Christkiller ZHIDS and their lackeys just do not like to have
the TRUTH publicised, about their CRIMINAL convictions!!

On 21 Oct 2005 08:41:37 GMT, Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> wrote:

>On 18 Oct 2005 01:48:29 -0500, <szkd5m3xqv6.fsf@eris.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <patrick@io.com> wrote:
>>R. Scott Bradbury <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> writes:
>>
>>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/689c45c3e1f1dffc?fwc=1
>>>(Archived locally as: PWB_YFEassault)
>>>From: "P.W. Blakely" <pwblakel...@gmx.net>
>>>Subject: Re: Give it up Edeiken, Tavish ain't playing your childish game.
>>>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 01:45:03 -0400
>>>Message-ID: <39adecde@post.usenet.com>
>>
>>*blip!*
>
>What Patrick deleted because he can't refute it can be read in full at this link
>in case the thread gets destroyed in the archives:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/111cc1cf967c3bb1?fwc=1
>Subject: Yale F. Edeiken Caught Lying About His Criminal Record (And This is the
>Man Ken McVay Cites for his FACTS!!)
>Message-ID: <51s8l1poksfuavlqvrauvs4bo4vsjfbd00@4ax.com>
>Date: 18 Oct 2005 04:13:21 GMT
>
>>The law-enforcement agencies are laughing at your fat ass, Blubberbury.
>
>Proof?
>
>>Posting five-year-old canned crap won't do anything but convince them that you
>>really ARE as crazy as you act online.
>
>What I posted happened and it is historical and factual so live with it!
>
>Something else for you to make a fool of yourself over:
>
> ~~Ken McVay Lying About His Financing Via S.A.A.F. Nizkor Fund~~
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?fwc=1
>From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
>Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
>Organization: The Nizkor Project
>Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1@news.tht.net>
>(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
>Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
>evidence of any sort... What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The
>Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San
>Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very
>bright... Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
><end/quote>
>
>As for Ken McVay's bold faced lie: "What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate
>is that The Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with
>the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." BUT I have "demonstrated" the
>association between the Nizkor Project and the San Antonio Area Foundation -
>Nizkor Fund and all with Ken McVay's very own words below!
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212
>(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
>From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
>Date: 1996/06/15
>Message-ID: <4pvl6g$ctm@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>organization: The Nizkor Project
>
>In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
>Nizkor Project should be made payable to:
> SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
>and should be mailed to:
> San Antonio Area Foundation
> Nizkor Fund
> P.O. Box 120366
> San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
><end/quote>
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
>(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
>From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
>Date: 1996/09/05
>Message-ID: <50n608$9ds@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
>organization: The Nizkor Project
>
>..In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
> "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
>and should be mailed to:
> San Antonio Area Foundation
> Nizkor Fund
> P.O. Box 120366
> San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
>We thank all of you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
>Project. The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
>improvements in service.
><end/quote>
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf?fwc=1
>From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
>Date: 1996/06/15
>Message-ID: <4pvbkg$auc@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>
>In article <31c2fa3a.16855786@news.annap.infi.net>,
>hk@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote:
>
>>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>>talk.
>
>Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
>by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
>work... In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
> SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
>and mail them to:
> San Antonio Area Foundation
> Nizkor Fund
> P.O. Box 120366
> San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
>...By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
>and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
>difference it makes who finances my work... I fail to see
>how my financing changes that.
><end/quote>
>
>"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
>contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
>-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
>http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
>(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)
>
>>
>>--
>> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
>> chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
>> LAST GAME: Houston 3. Grand Rapids 1 (October 15)
>> NEXT GAME: Tuesday, October 18 at Omaha, 7:05
>
>
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TOPIC: ZHID/Jew Stranglehold on Media
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6e071da144ba3646
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 5:55 pm
From: Harry Mazal

On 15 Oct 2005 14:23:16 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Karl"
<karl_ribbentrop@yahoo.com> wrote:

The Zionists have a stranglehold on US media! If you want to learn more
about this read the PDF by Rev. Matt Hale, currently serving a 40 year
sentence as a result of the new US anti-terrorism laws! You can
download the PDF with the following link:

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/42cad665_3b0f/bc/My+Documents/US+media+run+by+jews.pdf?bf8VSUDBOxg5y13J

This PDF was a real eye-opener to me!!!

Greetings, Karl.

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TOPIC: Goodbye Europe
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/45e5b9700b1e9ac3
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 9:59 am
From: "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com>

"DoD" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message
news:h7VZf.342$bi.129@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> "Daniel Bernard" <bad@bad.one> wrote in message
> news:t1ke32dvjq4rrult5h3vj40ef7oobr7b4m@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 04:38:47 +1200, "Tilly" <TillyGr@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Daniel Bernard wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 02:52:48 +1200, "Tilly" <TillyGr@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Correction: Yes I have read about it and seen several news pieces
>>>> > on various TV channels.
>>>>
>>>> By pointing that out,I hope you realise that you could be accused of
>>>> defending my post......
>>>
>>>Just by conversing with you I am a traitor! ;-)
>>
>> It's terrible! What are you going to do without Dodo's approval? Think
>> of all the barn dances, Redneck Olympic events, spitting contests and
>> anti-Yurp meetings in Kansas to which you will no longer be invited to
>> attend.
>
> Oooooooohhhhhh that really hurts. At least here in Kansas we have figured
> out that horses are not livestock, you half baked half French, idjit.

If horses are not livestock, what the fuck are they doodoo.

>
>

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TOPIC: Colorado: Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f1882ac30dc275
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 7:12 pm
From: Alric Knebel

Way Back Jack wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 08:00:24 -0500, Alric Knebel
> <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>
>
>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:23:44 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>><alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:25:58 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>>>><alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 14:04:13 -0500, "Joe S." <anon@mous.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"127.0.0.1" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:1820414.mvXUDI8C0e@0ICU8I2...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Colorado: White Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout
>>>>>>>>>Report; Posted on: 2006-03-31 20:22:56 [ Printer friendly / Instant
>>>>>>>>>flyer ]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Go Falcons!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dozens" of White students walked out of Skyline High School ("Home of the
>>>>>>>>>Falcons") in Longmont, Colorado on Friday (March 31, 2006) in protest over
>>>>>>>>>an administration policy that bans the display of the United States flag
>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>campus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I doubt it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Oh, wait, I see -- National Vanguard. Nothing here, folks, move along.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Beats the hell out of La Raza Tribune, Pancho.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, oh. It looks like Topaz finally find himself a bunker-mate. After
>>>>>>all this time, true love strikes. It's almost like one of those
>>>>>>romantic comedies, where the forlorn lover continues to pursue his or
>>>>>>her dream of a perfect romance against all odds, then, finally, he or
>>>>>>she is rewarded. And here YOU are, piping up to come to the rescue of
>>>>>>this empty-headed nincompoop, who's posted the same articles for years,
>>>>>>and who can not defend this racist bullshit with his own words. THAT is
>>>>>>an inferior human being, you dope, hoping that the accomplishments of
>>>>>>his race validate his own shortcomings. How about you? Are you one of
>>>>>>these white supremacists? Are you one of these mental weaklings
>>>>>>obsessed with race?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's some more racist bullshit from the racist FBI and racist New
>>>>>England Journal Of Medicine, among other sources:
>>>>>
>>>>>Black/White Street Crime Ratios:
>>>>
>>>>I didn't bother reading it all, but the opening paragraph in your
>>>>responses suggests
>>>
>>>
>>>That you will keep your head in the sand, like a good brainwashed
>>>liberal.
>>
>>Keep my head in the sand about what, you fanatic? I don't care about IQ
>>averages. What difference does it make, even if it's true? If they had
>>an average IQ higher than whites, how would that change my life or even
>>YOUR life? What's there to hide from? And why are YOU obsessed with
>>it? I know some very talented black people and some very stupid white
>>people. What difference does all of this counting make on the bottom
>>line?
>
>
> Actually the issue was crime and morality, not IQs.
>
> Do try to stay focused:

Actually, the issue was IQs. Try to keep up with the rest of the class.

--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 12:53 am
From: YoMammmy@work.org (Way Back Jack)

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:12:21 -0500, Alric Knebel
<alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:

>Way Back Jack wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 08:00:24 -0500, Alric Knebel
>> <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:23:44 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>>><alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:25:58 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>>>>><alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 14:04:13 -0500, "Joe S." <anon@mous.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"127.0.0.1" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:1820414.mvXUDI8C0e@0ICU8I2...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Colorado: White Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout
>>>>>>>>>>Report; Posted on: 2006-03-31 20:22:56 [ Printer friendly / Instant
>>>>>>>>>>flyer ]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Go Falcons!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Dozens" of White students walked out of Skyline High School ("Home of the
>>>>>>>>>>Falcons") in Longmont, Colorado on Friday (March 31, 2006) in protest over
>>>>>>>>>>an administration policy that bans the display of the United States flag
>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>campus.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I doubt it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Oh, wait, I see -- National Vanguard. Nothing here, folks, move along.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Beats the hell out of La Raza Tribune, Pancho.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh, oh. It looks like Topaz finally find himself a bunker-mate. After
>>>>>>>all this time, true love strikes. It's almost like one of those
>>>>>>>romantic comedies, where the forlorn lover continues to pursue his or
>>>>>>>her dream of a perfect romance against all odds, then, finally, he or
>>>>>>>she is rewarded. And here YOU are, piping up to come to the rescue of
>>>>>>>this empty-headed nincompoop, who's posted the same articles for years,
>>>>>>>and who can not defend this racist bullshit with his own words. THAT is
>>>>>>>an inferior human being, you dope, hoping that the accomplishments of
>>>>>>>his race validate his own shortcomings. How about you? Are you one of
>>>>>>>these white supremacists? Are you one of these mental weaklings
>>>>>>>obsessed with race?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's some more racist bullshit from the racist FBI and racist New
>>>>>>England Journal Of Medicine, among other sources:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Black/White Street Crime Ratios:
>>>>>
>>>>>I didn't bother reading it all, but the opening paragraph in your
>>>>>responses suggests
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That you will keep your head in the sand, like a good brainwashed
>>>>liberal.
>>>
>>>Keep my head in the sand about what, you fanatic? I don't care about IQ
>>>averages. What difference does it make, even if it's true? If they had
>>>an average IQ higher than whites, how would that change my life or even
>>>YOUR life? What's there to hide from? And why are YOU obsessed with
>>>it? I know some very talented black people and some very stupid white
>>>people. What difference does all of this counting make on the bottom
>>>line?
>>
>>
>> Actually the issue was crime and morality, not IQs.
>>
>> Do try to stay focused:
>
>Actually, the issue was IQs. Try to keep up with the rest of the class.

Well, let's see:

Black/White Street Crime Ratios:

Murder/neg. msltr.: 5.39/1
Forcible Rape: 2.89/1
Robbery: 6.55/1
Aggravated assault: 2.88/1
Burglary: 2.45/1

The white crime data include Hispanic crime. If Hispanic crime were
removed from white data, the black/white ratio would be even more
extreme.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_00/00crime4.pdf
______

And for you to blame crime on socioeconomics, please note that the
poverty rate in a recent year does not correlate well with the crime
rates. The black/white poverty ratio (2001) was 2.3/1 (Hispanics not
included) based on the following poverty rates:
white: 9.9%
black: 22.7%
Hispanic: 21.7%

Secondly, while you may argue that a hungry group would naturally
commit more robberies, what's your excuse for rape, murder, assault?

("Dat whyte guy makes more money then me,so I think I'll rape my
neighbor.") Huh!!!??!

Thirdly, the muscular thugs who are committing this savagery look
anything but hungry.

Finally, in a recent study of NFL players, it was found that their
crime rates were only slightly less than those of their respective
demographic groups in the general population. ("Pros And Cons: The
Criminals Who Play In The NFL" by Jeff yaeger and Jeff Benedict,
Time-Life Books)

Even Je$$e Jack$on was left speechless.

It ain't fiscal bankruptcy, but moral bankruptcy, aided-and-abetted by
the guilty white liberal girly men who continue to make excuses and
keep them on a victim plantatation of self-pity, anger, and hatred.

_________

For blacks for the year 2000 OOW was 68.5% per:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_05tb19.pdf

I have seen as high as 69.1% for other years.
______________
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/337/16/1105

EXCERPT FROM ABSTRACT: Results From 1988 to 1994, the seroprevalence
of HSV-2 in persons 12 years of age or older in the United States was
21.9 percent (95 percent confidence interval, 20.2 to 23.6 percent),
corresponding to 45 million infected people in the
noninstitutionalized civilian population. The seroprevalence was
higher among women (25.6 percent) than men (17.8 percent) and higher
among blacks (45.9 percent) than whites (17.6 percent).

_______

Nope, the issue was crime and morality.

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TOPIC: Should Hiroshima and Nagasaki bar US investment and merchandise ?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4ff4bcb10541ff10
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 12:14 am
From: "Musashi"

"FRED WELLMAN" <fwellman@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
news:GsednS0iUPkqgqXZRVn-uA@wideopenwest.com...
>
> "Musashi" <Miyamato@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
> news:OrRZf.3072$mu2.2257@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...
> >
> > "FRED WELLMAN" <fwellman@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
> > news:0OednflrKMLWQqrZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@wideopenwest.com...
> >>
> >> "Musashi" <Miyamato@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
> >> news:lfQZf.3063$mu2.2277@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...
> >> >
> >> > "FRED WELLMAN" <fwellman@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:Jd6dnUV34JBRuKrZnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@wideopenwest.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Musashi" <Miyamato@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
> >> >> news:j3iZf.8963$%m4.2864@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Dr. bitter anko" <kaz762@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:1144362350.283104.25030@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Musashi ??????:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Dr. bitter anko" <kaz762@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:1144326491.864266.96820@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Musashi ??????:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > "Y. H. Park" <yparkrrhad@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:1144237681.930693.277040@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> SNIPPED
> >> >> > If so please explain why the United States went to war >against
> >> >> > Germany.
> >> >>
> >> >> Because Germany declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor. Hitler
was
> >> >> really pissed that his "ALLIES" made him declare war, or void a
> >> >> treaty,
> >> >> He
> >> >> knew it was a mistake. Fred
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Are you not aware that the US was sendiung military supplies to
England
> >> > (and
> >> > USSR) in
> >> > convoy fleets prior to Dec 11 1941, and that German U-boats were
> >> > sinking
> >> > them?
> >> > Have you ever heard of the Lend-Lease program?
> >>
> >> Very aware of it. If they were US flagged the US had the right to
defend
> >> them. I know FDR wanted to get into the war with Germany and did what
he
> >> could to do so. He lied during the 1940 election to get reelected.
> > Germany
> >> could have bought supplies from the US if it wanted. Are you aware
that
> >> German Sub's where in and out of New York harbor before 1942. The
would
> > buy
> >> newspapers with the sailing times of ships then wait off shore for
them.
> >
> > Very aware of German espionage success in tjhe US.
> >
> >> That still doe not change the fact Germany declared war on the US
before
> > the
> >> US declared war on Germany. Fred
> >>
> >
> > So you admit that FDR "wanted to get into a war with Germany", that the
US
> > was supplying England
> > and the Soviets with arms to figfht the Germans, that US and German
forces
> > had actually engaged each other
> > as early as October of 1941....but claim that the reason the US went to
> > war
> > with Germany was because
> > Germany declared war on Dec 11th?
> >
> In 1940 congress reinstated the draft by 1 vote. The American people did
> not want to get into war. FDR saw that it was a necessity. Hitler would
> not have stopped at Europe. FDR did all of the things stated YET Germany
> did not declare war on the US until after 12/11/41. Had FDR went to
> congress asking for a war declaration on 12/10/41 it would not have
passed.
> America's action from 1938-Pearl Harbor was almost cold war like. The
> biggest difference is Germany COULD buy what it needed from the US and for
> most of the clod war the USSR could not. If not bound by a treaty I doubt
> Hitler would have declared war on the US until Russia and GB were
defeated.
> Germany's technology was far ahead of what the Allies had, the bomb being
> the exception. Fred
>

So you are separating FDR's personal agenda from the wishes of the majority
of the
American public. Is that correct?
To me your words above support my position that the US did in fact want to
enter the
war against Germany well before Pearl Harbor.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: ANCIENT BHARAT PRODUCED FIRST DENTISTS, 9,000 YEARS AGO
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/fa48f4520b0ca711
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 12:16 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <1vWZf.181$pi6.73@dukeread12>,
noreply@noreply.net posted:
> harmony wrote:
> > those dentists did a great job, and charged a whole lot less. what the
> > report does ot inform is that people used to have whiter and healthier
> > teeth than do today. the patients had a much better relationship with
> > their doctors and dentists without govt interefering. this explains in
> > part why people lived much longer in the old days.
>
> I haven't heard of any archaeologist who has reported a finding that people
> lived longer in "the old days".

Ancient yogis lived to be well over a hundred, but modern-day,
Eurocentric archeologists won't admit that, that is, if they even
agree to study Bharat's ancient past.

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

> > www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
> >
> >> Ancient India Produced First Dentists, 9,000 Years Ago
> >> Man Was Enduring the Dentist's Drill 9,000 Years Ago
> >>
> >> By Kyle Jarrard
> >> International Herald Tribune
> >> New York Times
> >> Wednesday, April 5, 2006
> >>
> >> Paris, April 5 - Man's first known trip to the dentist
> >> occurred as early as 9,000 years ago, when at least 9
> >> people living in a Neolithic village in Pakistan had
> >> holes drilled into their molars and survived the
> >> procedure.
>

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TOPIC: SECURING THE KIKE REALM
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8dd1ed5cdcb29a1b
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 12:27 am
From: flaviaR@verizon.net

When replying to the phony rev or his suck puppets,
please rmove extraneous groups.
Let the losers spam on their own dime.

Susan

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TOPIC: Border battle is taking toll on desert's wildlife
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dc2c4c016bd9c4aa
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 5:49 pm
From: johnwesley55@lycos.com

Stan de SD wrote:
> Border battle is taking toll on desert's wildlife
> By Julie Cart
>
> Los Angeles Times
>
> CABEZA PRIETA NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE, Ariz. -
> Mountains of trash, recurring fires, despoiled natural springs, vandalized
> historic sites and disappearing wildlife are part of the devastating toll
> that the government's running battle with smugglers and migrants is taking
> on national parks and wildlife refuges along the U.S. border with Mexico.
>
> In southern Arizona, the damage extends to American Indian and private land,
> jeopardizing a broad expanse of the Sonoran Desert.
>
> At Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge, 2 ½ million pounds of garbage is
> scattered through broad valleys and desert arroyos every year, according to
> Roger DiRosa, the refuge manager. Officials with the U.S. Border Patrol say
> the refuge's seven mountain ranges - home to bighorn sheep and a prized
> destination for wilderness hikers - now serve as posts for lookouts who use
> night-vision equipment to track Border Patrol movements. Mountain peaks
> conceal clandestine radio repeating stations. Illegal "ghost roads" carved
> by smugglers and pursuing federal agents crisscross Cabeza Prieta and nearby
> Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument.
>
> Officials at the U.S. Department of the Interior say they are considering
> giving the Border Patrol control of the hard-hit areas of the refuge and
> park nearest the border.
>
> "We've talked about what kind of swath they would need, how much we would
> let them control, recognizing that you would be sacrificing a small area for
> the greater good," said Larry Parkinson, Interior's deputy assistant
> secretary for law enforcement and security.
>
> On a recent tour of the damage, DiRosa, who manages Cabeza Prieta for the
> U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, steered his truck toward the Growler
> Mountains, making slow headway through what used to be fertile desert
> topsoil. A constant stream of vehicles has pulverized the sand into a fine
> powder that DiRosa and other federal land managers call "moon dust."
>
> There is only one official road in Cabeza Prieta's 860,000 acres, and this
> wasn't it. The nameless routes, stretching north from the Mexican border,
> are the result of an estimated 1,000 illegal foot crossings a day and
> countless vehicles transporting undocumented migrants, drug runners and
> Border Patrol.
>
> The constant human pressure is threatening to eliminate the area's wildlife.
> The refuge's population of the endangered Sonoran pronghorn, a deerlike
> creature, had fallen to 21 - down from 179 in 1992 - and the species was
> headed for extinction before a captive-breeding program was established in
> 2004.
>
> Cabeza Prieta has 400 plant species and 300 types of wildlife, including
> ringtail cats, kit foxes, bighorn sheep, javelina, badgers, bobcats, mule
> deer, desert tortoises, 24 snake species, 11 bat species and 212 bird
> species.
>
>
>
>
> It's only a matter of time, officials say, before these animals' home is
> rendered uninhabitable.
>
> Federal officials describe the effects of massive trespass as "staggering"
> and warn of dire repercussions.
>
> East of Organ Pipe, residents of the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation
> recently removed more than 7,000 abandoned vehicles.
>
> Wendy Glenn, whose family runs a cattle ranch near Douglas, described the
> harm done to livestock and wildlife.
>
> "There are at least two semi [tractor-truck] loads of trash in the canyon
> behind us, and there are probably seven canyons like that," she said. "Our
> cattle eat the trash. Little animals stick their heads in bean cans and walk
> around with the cans on their muzzle until they die. Our neighbor had a cow
> in a corral - it was having a problem calving. They came back in the morning
> to check on it, and two illegals had killed the calf and were cooking it.
>
> "There's constant harassment of wildlife," Glenn said. "Deer don't feed
> during the night, because there's too many people running around. They need
> to go into the thickets to shade up during the day, but they go in now and
> there's people there, along with trash and fecal matter."
>
> Arizona's border with Mexico, more than 350 miles long, includes six
> national parks, three wildlife refuges, three national monuments, two
> national conservation areas and a national forest. Government scientists
> have documented the most serious damage at Cabeza Prieta and Organ Pipe.
>
> At Organ Pipe, on Cabeza Prieta's eastern border, the National Park Service
> estimates that visitors hiking the park's trails may encounter 200 pounds of
> trash per mile. Wildlife biologists say trash and human waste spread disease
> among animals.
>
> Soil compaction across hundreds of miles of roads and trails has killed
> cactuses' shallow root systems, causing towering saguaro and organ-pipe
> cactuses to topple, taking with them animal food sources and bird nests.
>
> At Organ Pipe, American Indian relics and pioneer ranch buildings have been
> damaged or destroyed, Billings said. The corral from Dos Lomitas Ranch, a
> 19th-century site listed on the National Register of Historic Places, is
> being taken apart board by board and the wood used for campfires.
>
> Thirsty border crossers are draining many scarce natural water sources and
> have damaged or destroyed water tanks placed by biologists for bighorn sheep
> and pronghorn. Dripping Springs, a centuries-old desert oasis for pioneers
> and prospectors, now regularly tests positive for high levels of E. coli
> bacteria.
>
> Last year, 3,500 acres burned in Cabeza Prieta, said Mike Coffeen, a Fish
> and Wildlife biologist at the refuge. The previous annual high was 50 acres.
> According to refuge staff, the increase is caused by "come-get-me fires" set
> by undocumented migrants who become lost in the desert.
>
> Preventing damage is complicated by the Border Patrol's virtual immunity
> from laws designed to protect the border environment.
>
> Border Patrol agents pursue illegal immigrants in high-speed chases across
> fragile desert lands. Driving in the area normally would be prohibited by
> the Wilderness Act.
>
> The agency has established camps in wilderness areas, obliterating plants to
> make way for helicopter pads, trailers, fencing, generators and
> high-intensity lights. Since much desert wildlife is nocturnal, the noise
> and lights have driven animals out of their natural habitat.
>
> "What would this be like if the Border Patrol was not here?" DiRosa mused,
> walking around a bullet-ridden white station wagon stuck in the sand at
> Cabeza Prieta. "I'd shut the door, because the refuge would be so damaged
> and compromised. But the Border Patrol is a Catch-22: They protect the
> refuge but damage the wilderness."
>
> The Border Patrol says it now requires environmental sensitivity training
> and mandates that agents who drive through wilderness areas report incidents
> to refuge or park managers.
>
> "We've come a long ways," said Ron Colburn, the Border Patrol's chief patrol
> agent for the agency's Yuma sector. "It has been an evolution in the
> cultures of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologists and Border Patrol
> personnel. We were both operating in the same area but had recognizably
> different missions. We didn't see our missions joining."
>
> Now they do, Colburn said, citing a pending national agreement between the
> Border Patrol and several federal land- and wildlife-management agencies
> that seeks to reduce conflict and spell out how to operate in sensitive
> habitat.
>
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002916276_mexborder07.html

Once again the slogan is reinforced, "A good illegal alien is a dead
illegal alien". I understand these mestizoes are now infesting small
towns in the rural east.

John

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TOPIC: How Israel Can Win
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/202c3742c1496c1c
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 12:58 am
From: flaviaR@verizon.net

On 7-Apr-2006, "Jeffrey Krantz" <drref@si.rr.com> wrote:

> ">
> > It will end with another Holocaust!
>
> No it wont. I dont think Israel wants to kill 6 million Palisimeans

Had Israel wanted to do this, she could have done so DECADES ago.
Something Jew-haters refuse to aclnowledge.

Susan

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TOPIC: Black Scholar Fearz Future of Young Black Men
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2e5f10360af7e066
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 7:58 pm
From: weberm@polaris.net (Ubiquitous)

In article <47kf32929h4q84c2o1obojjrguj314s2k3@4ax.com>, <Unknown> wrote:

> [blah blah blah]

And you anonymously posted this off-topic article here because?

--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which
the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad
for them, it's failing.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 8:43 pm
From: Rich

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:08:10 GMT, Mark Nobles
<cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote:

>Voice Of Reason <> said:
>
>> Franklin, who is 91 years old, is an anomaly among black men. Both his
>> parents were educated -- his father was a lawyer, his mother a
>> schoolteacher.
>
>> "...we
>> were very poor."
>
>Huh?
>
>He would have been in college during the depression, but even then if
>he had two parents working they wouldn't have been "very poor" by the
>standard of the day.

The value of labour was at an all time low. They could well have been
poor, by any universal standard.
-Rich

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 5:58 pm
From: hi@anony (habshi)

Shame that Muslims have to live on Kaffir money ,

excerpt
Muslims get money from Hindu temple funds and are also
allowed to practice their own Sharia (Islamic) laws for
marriage, divorce,

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:27:41 GMT, usenet@mantra.commiE6 and/or
www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:

Indian Governments Hard on Hindus, Their Temples, Soft on All Others

By Yatindra Bhatnagar
International Opinion - Volume 6 Number 5
Week ending April 1, 2006

Everything against Hindus seems to be justified in India,
a country dominated by 82 percent Hindus. There are no
such things as Hindu rights, safety of Hindu temples and
their money, Hindu pilgrimages and the Hindu way of life.
Instead, every effort is made to favor, appease, fund and
tolerate others, especially Muslims who are doubly
benefited by the secular policies of the Government of
India, and states ruled by the Congress Party and its
coalition partners. Their Sharia laws give them an added
advantage.

Muslims get money from Hindu temple funds and are also
allowed to practice their own Sharia (Islamic) laws for
marriage, divorce, family inheritance and other customs.
Civil laws are not uniformly applied to Muslims and their
rights, real or imaginary, traditional or just made up,
are generously safeguarded. They are permitted practices
even if some of them are in direct conflict with India's
laws on divorce, maintenance money after divorce, and
other social, religious and cultural practices.

Some time back International Opinion carried an article
detailing the takeover of Hindu temples in Karnataka and
transfer of large chunks of their funds to mosques,
churches, Islamic schools (madarsas) that churn out
radical Muslims, and Christian schools. The die-hard
Christians merrily go on converting simple, less
educated, tribals, socially and economically weaker
sections of Hindu population all over India.

The Roman Catholic Pope, when he visited India last year,
had bluntly told his audience in Hindu-dominated India
that his mission is to convert people to Christianity
(Roman Catholic version, of course). It was a slap on
Hindus and should have been on the face of the Government
of India that had invited him and that claims to be
"secular."

A part of the Hindu money also goes to Christian Non-
Government Organizations (NGOs), who utilize these funds
for the spread of Christian religion, education, social
and cultural practices. Evidently, Hindu money, Hindu
temples, Hindu religion, Hindu rights, and Hindu
population, everything is going down.

The Congress policy is to take over Hindu temples that
are a big source of money from millions of devotees every
year. That money is fully controlled by governments run
by Congress Party, and its coalition partners. Hindu
Temple Trusts, or traditional priests, no longer run
those Temples. They are, instead, run by government-
appointed Boards or Managing Committees consisting of
bureaucrats from other communities also.

Thus a very large amount of Hindu money is going to
government coffers and through them to others to the
detriment of Hindus, and Hindu temples. That is a clear
case of discrimination on the basis of religion, and
partisan policies of the government at the Center and
Congress-ruled states. This is wrong, and a violation of
constitutional norms. This is blatantly unfair policy
towards Hindus. And this is arbitrary, to say the least.

There has been no take over of mosques, churches or
institutions run by Muslims and Christians. Only Hindu
temples are targeted. Why is this discrimination and
differential treatment? And the meek, tolerant,
submissive Hindus don't raise a finger to protest it! And
when they do, they are branded "communalists" by Muslims,
leftists, and even some sections of so-called secular
Hindus. How surprising!

This should be challenged in the highest court of the
country, and other forums.

The new arbitrary development is about one of the most
famous Hindu temples in Mumbai - Siddhivinayak. The
Maharashtra government of Congress and its junior
partner, Sharad Pawar's Nationalist Congress Party (NCP),
have conveniently managed to take over Siddhivinayak
Temple Trust that gets huge amount of money from Hindu
devotees. These devotees include top movie stars such as
Amitabh Bachchan and Aishwarya Rai who regularly visit
Siddhivinayak and offer big money and jewelry.

Siddhivinayak is a temple of Ganesh, the most popular
deity in Maharashtra, and also many other parts of India.
No traditional religious function is complete without
first praying to Ganesh, the son of Shiva and Parvati.

My friend Devendra Singh has complained that the Congress
and NCP have divided the Shirdi Sai Baba Sansthan and
Siddhivinayak Temple Trust amongst themselves as if these
Trusts are commodities to be used and exploited by the
Government for its anti-Hindu and anti-national policies
of minority appeasement.

He adds: "Hindu Janjagruti Samiti (hindujagruti.org)
appeals to all devotees of Lord Ganesh to avoid making
donations to the Siddhivinayak Temple. Instead donations
may be made in any local Ganesh Temple after paying
obeisance to the Siddhivinayak idol."

This is only one way to protest the government action.
But its doubtful if this will be effective as Hindus are,
by and large, naïve, indifferent, and oblivious to the
far-reaching consequences of government policies. They
have to be really jolted to awaken them.

The government is always looking to the other side when
there is an issue of Muslim intransigence, incongruity,
or even violation of established and acceptable norms of
civilized behavior. Some time back in a Northern Indian
town, a father-in-law was found to have physical
relations with his daughter-in-law. Whether they were
consensual or not is not valid here, but the fact was
that the local Muslim religious leadership ruled that
since the woman had relations with her father-in-law, she
is now to be recognized as his wife, and consequently,
the mother of her husband.

A more ludicrous ruling would be difficult to find. And
all that was claimed to be in accordance with Islamic
laws. Obviously, the government did not want to interfere
in an Islamic matter. It's a mockery of the Indian
Constitution, and denigration for the woman.

Islam and its followers are very strict in matters of
conversion. Once a Muslim, always a Muslim. He or she can
convert to other religions at the risk of their lives. A
celebrated case was about the movie super star of
yesteryears, Nargis, who was the first recipient of Padma
Shri and had access to Prime Minister Jawahar Lal Nehru.

Nargis was born a Muslim to a Muslim lady, Jaddan Bai.
There were all kinds of rumors about her father being a
Hindu but that is not very relevant here. She married
another movie star Sunil Dutt, a Hindu. It was well known
that the marriage ceremony was performed with Hindu rites
and rituals, and that Nargis lived like a Hindu,
observing various practices of Hinduism.

When Nargis died, Dutt prepared to take the body for
cremation and to perform Hindu rituals for the departed
soul. It was reported that the brothers/cousins of
Nargis, insisted that the body be taken to the Muslim
burial ground and be buried with Islamic rituals and
customs. Dutt, a gentleman that he was, did not want to
create a scene, and quarrel before the dead body of his
beloved wife. He allowed the body to be whisked away by
the intolerant Muslim relatives. The Islamic
intransigence prevailed upon Hindu tolerance.

Recently in Malaysia, the country supposed to be a
moderate Muslim nation, a shocking case, somewhat similar
to that of Nargis, was reported. A Hindu wife's complaint
is that her husband's body was buried by claiming that he
had converted to Islam. The man, a celebrated former
Olympian, had died in coma, and Islamic courts ruled that
he had converted. Some paperwork was produced by the
local Mullah to bolster their claim. The man's wife, his
other relatives, and friends had no information about his
alleged conversion, yet the body was snatched away from a
Hindu wife.

Malaysian Hindus have taken up the case but it did not
attract worldwide attention, as it is a case of an
aggrieved Hindu, and not a Muslim or a Christian. The
Hindus themselves have to raise their united voice
louder, clearer, effectively and aggressively. They don't
have to take up arms like radical Muslims, but can make
their point known worldwide through relentless campaign
for truth, justice, fairness, religious and social
freedom - and no discrimination whatsoever. They should
not take any injustice lying down, or they would continue
to be trampled upon by this or that religion.

Yet another recent case has become a ‘cause celebre'
worldwide. But this one is related to a Muslim in
Afghanistan facing death for converting to Christianity.
Abdul Rahman had converted years back but when other
people found that out, he was sentenced to death by an
Islamic court - the only kind of court in that country.
Radical Muslims and Islamic courts ruled that by
abandoning his religion, Rahman had insulted Islam and
deserved death penalty.

Rahman's case is being fought by public opinion,
Christian groups, and even Christian governments,
worldwide. Consequently he might be released. But, I will
not be surprised if, without adequate security, and safe
journey to a democratic, religion- tolerant country, he
is killed after his release by the same radical Muslims.
Muslim clerics keep clamoring for his death. This is
Islam, the religion touted as compassionate, kind and
tolerant.

This is happening in a country liberated by the US-led
coalition from the hands of ultra radical Talibans who
had shown no religious tolerance whatsoever. On the
contrary, they had even blasted the world famous towering
Buddha statues at Bamiyan. The statues were not
converting, but only silently witnessing the atrocities
on girls and women, other religions and opponents of
Talibans. They were blasted in the name of Islam, and
Allah.

That happened in Afghanistan under the Talibans. Rahman's
case is under Hamid Karzai's government, a man put there
by the Americans.

A thing like that could have happened in India too.
Islamic laws would have issued death sentence. It would
not have had the legal sanction of Indian courts but when
it comes to Islamic Sharia laws, who cares? Fatwas, and
radical Islamists could do the dirty work.

Recently India did have a weird case that should have
shocked the people. According to a report by the main
news agency, Press Trust of India, a Muslim in his sleep
had uttered the word "Talaq" three times. That was
enough, and the local Mullahs accepted it as the man's
decision to divorce his wife. No amount of explanations
would satisfy the local Muslim religions leaders and they
asked the couple to split.

PTI reported that Sohela Ansari told friends that her
husband Aftab had uttered the word

"talaq" three times in his sleep. When local Islamic
leaders came to know that, they said Aftab's words
constituted a divorce under the Islamic procedure known
as "triple talaq." The West Bengal couple, married for 11
years, have three children.

The local Mullahs also ruled that if the couple wanted to
remarry the mandatory waiting period is 100 days.
Meantime, Sohela would have to spend at least one night
with another man (deemed to be a marriage) and then be
divorced by that other man before she can even think of
remarrying her original man. What a religious decree!
What kind of justice!

The news is that the couple has refused to obey the order
and the issue has been referred to a local family
counseling center. Unless this Mullahcracy ends, the
couple is doomed.

The silver lining in the case is that Zafarul-Islam Khan,
an Islamic scholar and editor of The Milli Gazette, a
popular Muslim newspaper, has said: "This is a totally
unnecessary controversy and the local ‘community leaders'
or whosoever has said it, are totally ignorant of Islamic
law."

"The law clearly says any action under compulsion or in a
state of intoxication has no effect. The case of someone
uttering something while asleep falls under this category
and will have no impact whatsoever," Khan opined. Would
the radical Mullahs listen?

Ultimately the case might be settled in Sohela's favor.
However, the weird Islamic laws and their inhuman
interpretation by Sharia courts and radical Muslim
leaders, are clearly a gross violation of India's
Constitution. It's also a blunt challenge to Indian
justice system. All that is happening under the very nose
of governments - state and Central. And nobody has the
courage to do anything tangible, and settle these matters
once and for all by enforcing uniform civil laws for all
the citizens of India irrespective of their religious
affiliation.

The need for a Uniform Civil Code is one of the Directive
Principles under the Indian Constitution but no
government has shown courage to prepare and enforce that.
A really moderate Muslim, the then Chief Justice of
India's Supreme Court, Justice Ahmadi, a few years back,
had publicly asked the Central Government to implement
the Directive Principle related to the Uniform Civil
Code. But nothing has happened in all these years.

As long as appeasement of the so-called minority
communities continues, and the rights of Hindus trampled
upon, the country will keep seeing these types of
unacceptable and weird behavior. The main culprits are
Muslim Mullahs and the followers of Islam.

The Christian evangelical crowd is the other getting
preferential treatment at the expense of Hindus and Hindu
rights. This is strange in a country overwhelmingly
dominated by Hindus whose tolerance has become their
weakness for everyone to exploit.

By the way out of one billion plus of India's population,
the Muslims constitute only about 12 percent. The
Christians are even less, only 2.3 percent. The Sikhs are
even lesser, only 1.9 percent. Out of the rest, over 82
percent are Hindus - mostly sleeping.

Wake up Hindus before you are crushed beyond recognition
in your own country!

3/28/2006

More at:

http://internationalopinion.com/view-listing-details.asp?id=hyjubhnbkilocomw&str=396267

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 6:10 pm
From: usenet@mantra.comazi5 and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

The Dangers of Monotheism in the Age of Globalization

By Jean-Pierre Lehmann
The Globalist
Thursday, March 30, 2006

Is there a link between monetheistic religions and
intolerance and hostility? As Jean-Pierre Lehmann argues,
monotheistic religions have caused much turmoil
throughout history - and continue to do so today. What is
needed is a new global ethical and spiritual role model,
and in his opinion, the best candidate to fill that spot
is India.

Many in the West and elsewhere were shocked that an
Afghan man, Abdul Rahman, was facing possible execution
for having converted to Christianity. This is a crime, we
were told, punishable by death according to Shariah law,
which is the law of the land in Afghanistan, as well as
in a good number of other Muslim countries.

[Sidebar] The planet needs a sense of moral order,
spirituality and an ethical compass. The Indian religious
and philosophical traditions can provide a great deal of
all three.

And even now that Mr. Rahman has safely arrived in Italy,
where he was granted asylum, the episode is a telling
example of the intolerance that is often the result of
strict monotheism.

To be sure, Christianity was even worse in its own
heyday, not only because "heathens" were exterminated in
all sorts of diverse forms, but also those whose
Christianity (for example, the Albigensians in the 12th
and 13th centuries) was deemed to be "heterodox."

Also, the Spanish conquistadores in Latin America, in
collusion with the Church authorities, burned a good
number of infidel American Indians.

Declining hostility

Generally speaking, however, over the course of the last
couple of centuries or so, as the political clout and
influence of the Christian churches has waned, the
execution, torture and imprisonment of infidels and
heretics has greatly decreased.

Today, there are a good number of converts to Islam
living in Christian countries - and they have encountered
relatively little hostility.

Religious collusion

The idea that Christian civilization (a fairly loose
term) renounced religious persecution simply because the
power of the churches declined is, of course, belied by
the Holocaust.

[Sidebar] India is a microcosmic reflection of how
globalization can work, especially in its remarkable
ability to have managed multiculturalism to such a
brilliant extent.

Despite being carried out by secular authorities, the
Holocaust took place in Christian countries - and with
the silent connivance of the established Christian
churches. A quite vivid illustration is that of the
fascist Usta[s]e movement in Croatia, which was in close
cahoots with the Catholic Church.

The Jews who were brought to the concentration camps were
far worse off than Abdul Rahman, who - before he found
refuge in Italy - had been told he would not be executed
if he converts back to Islam. The Jews at Auschwitz were
not given a similar option.

Violent records

Although both Christianity and Islam each have their
strong points, without doubt, on balance their historical
record would show more liabilities, more warfare, more
intolerance, more persecution, than truly positive
assets.

The number of people killed in the name of these two
religions must be far greater than the numbers killed for
any other cause. Furthermore, in this first decade of the
21st century, religion plays a far more prominent role
than it used to.

Hijacking the faith

In the case of the three monotheistic religions, Judaism,
Christianity and Islam have all been hijacked by their
respective fundamentalists.

[Sidebar] There are far more ethnic, linguistic and
religious groups than in, say, the European Union, yet a
far greater degree of unity has been achieved.

I am a great believer that the progress of civilization
requires the gradual eradication of all forms of
established religion. Not by force, I hasten to add, but
by the evidence of history, the rationality of man and
the persuasion of humanist secularism.

In Western Europe, where the vast majority of the
population is no longer Christian in anything but name,
sadly humanism has not taken hold.

Filling the void

An addiction to money, or psychoanalysis or drugs - or a
combination of the three - tends to prevail. Whatever has
the upper hand, it is definitely not humanism.

So it would seem people have a natural desire for
religion or something that can be substituted for it - if
not god, then mammon.

Polytheistic acceptance

In recognizing this reality, therefore, it would seem
that perhaps rather than eradicating religion per se, we
should instead eradicate monotheistic religion in favor
of polytheistic religion.

[Sidebar] Members of the enormous Indian diaspora are
the thought leaders in economics, business, philosophy,
political science, religion and literature.

If you have only one god, and you believe that god is all
powerful and omniscient, and you come across someone who
does not agree, then you may feel it is your duty to kill
him.

If, on the other hand, you believe there are hundreds,
indeed thousands of gods, and that none can be totally
almighty or omniscient, then you are likely to be far
more tolerant.

Intolerant tendencies

The great pre-Christian civilizations of Greece and Rome
had no religious wars and had a far healthier view of
their frolicking gods and goddesses than the intolerant
monotheistic Christianity that later came to dominate
Europe.

Polytheistic religions also tend to have a far more
positive and healthier attitude to sex, which is seen as
a good thing, than do the monotheistic faiths, where
there is a much stronger tendency to equate sex with sin.

Militant Christianity

As concerns the United States, militant Christianity is
clearly in ascendance, indeed it has one of its own in
the White House. According to a recent Pew survey, 15, 14
and 20% of the U.S. population said they would have
reasons not to vote for a presidential candidate who was
Catholic, Jewish or Evangelical Christian.

[Sidebar] Perhaps the greatest achievement of India has
been the maintainance of robust democracy in an extremely
multi-ethnic environment.

However, when that candidate was an atheist, the
percentage, at 41%, was substantially higher. This is
extremely worrying and does not portend well for the
future. While it would seem that religious Americans are
more tolerant as concerns their respective religions,
they remain brazenly intolerant of atheists.

Perhaps the most encouraging development in this early
21st century is the emergence of India as an increasingly
global force, economically, politically and culturally.

Managing multiculturalism

There are many anomalies, problems and injustices in
Indian society - and some of these, such as the caste
system, have been perpetrated by religion.

But India is a microcosmic reflection of how
globalization can work, especially in its generally
remarkable ability to have managed multiculturalism to
such a brilliant extent.

Diverse Unity

India’s one billion plus population is the most
heterogeneous in the world. There are far more ethnic,
linguistic and religious groups than in, say, the
European Union. Yet, a far greater degree of unity has
been achieved among India’s disparate ethnicities than
among the tribes of Western Europe.

[Sidebar] Christianity and Islam each have their strong
points, but their historical records show more
liabilities, warfare, intolerance and persecution, than
truly positive assets.

Thus, though Fareed Zakaria in "The Rise of Illiberal
Democracy" has rightly pointed out that democracy can
more often than not be the problem rather than the
solution in inter-communal relations - witness Iraq!

Perhaps the greatest achievement of India is to have
maintained a very robust democracy in an extremely multi-
ethnic environment. Contrast that with Egypt, for
example, which used to have a highly multi-ethnic make-
up, but which has now been mostly dissipated.

Hardly Utopia

Of course India is not Utopia. No place is - and no human
is perfect. Against the remarkably inspirational
preaching of non-violence of Mahatma Gandhi, India has
opted to become a nuclear power.

Nehru’s alleged egalitarianism notwithstanding, India has
the dubious distinction of having the world’s greatest
number of illiterates, especially among women. So, yes,
there are failings galore and there are also, alas, Hindu
fundamentalists.

A global ethical role model?

But in a global environment desperate for ideas,
philosophy and religion, India is the most prolific
birthplace of all three - because of the great synergy of
democracy and diversity, and the much greater degree of
self-confidence that Indians now feel.

[Sidebar] In a conversation with an Indian religious
guru, I discovered I could adhere to his religious
tenets, while maintaining my secular convictions. No imam
or priest would allow me that.

Indians and members of the enormous Indian Diaspora -over
which the sun never sets - are the thought leaders in
economics, business, philosophy, political science,
religion and literature.

The planet needs quite desperately a sense of moral
order, spirituality and an ethical compass. The Indian
religious and philosophical traditions can provide a
great deal of all three.

It was in a recent conversation with an Indian religious
guru that I was also pleased to discover I could adhere
to his religious tenets, while maintaining my secular
convictions. No imam or priest would allow me that.

More than a global economic force

The planet also needs an alternative geopolitical force
to the American Christian fundamentalist brand of
hegemonic thinking that the Bush Administration has
generated - and that is not likely to evaporate even
after his departure from office.

Europe is an inward-looking and, in many ways, spent
force. China is a dictatorship. The Islamic world is
going through an awkward moment - to put it mildly.

Hence the importance of the role India must play in this
respect - both because of its innate qualities and
because there is no other serious contender. The 21st
century better become the century inspired by the virtues
of Indian polytheism - or else we are headed for
disaster.

More at:
http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=5211

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