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Monday, April 10, 2006

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Today's topics:

* Open letter to President Bush - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/95fff8579aaf0eb
* HOMELAND SECURITY AGENT ARRESTED FOR SEDUCING 14-YR-OLD GIRL - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9334c1cbc0f97e
* $10,000 Reward for Thai Air Force Commander Akkavibul - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/416ef42277b367dc
* Canada labels Tamils terrorists - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/41889b1d744b94c9
* Ali Asker declares: "We are the TERRORISTS..." - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3c16c18f25fafbe3
* PKK uses drugs to finance terror - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3890f99323557201
* I am not at all in agreement with you in legalizing the many illegals
currently here - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/567ba95585933050
* all i'm doing is redefining stable from israeli nazis seizing land at whim...
. to... international law holds sway in spite of israel's false flag militant
groups. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/30a9995064f65bd0
* Pathetic Indo-Canadian figure skater from Vancouver, BC... - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/79dba2ad09a5ebd8
* is president Bush preparing to use Nuclear bombs to destroy Iran ? - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4394913e837521f4
* Smug Alert - San Francisco disappears up its own asshole... - 2 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2fdfb4b42f5ccc02
* INDIANA CITY CONSIDERS BUSH IMPEACHMENT - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2971abc818ddba44
* Bush still willing to use agressive war -- Iran next? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ffc46ecbd86efe06
* Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9aae5acd814ad828
* Some say Iran's weapons come from Russia - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/938d3d0d2a6b5e90
* Should Hiroshima and Nagasaki bar US investment and merchandise ? - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4ff4bcb10541ff10
* Colorado: Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/02f1882ac30dc275
* DRUG COMPANIES INVENTING DISEASES TO BOOST THEIR PROFITS - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/702f530131ac9911
* "A good illegal alien is a dead illegal alien" - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dedc802bd2d2c2e0
* KANGAROOISTAN - Just another pig felching Muslim that the world hates - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/06284a18b75ee0f3

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TOPIC: Open letter to President Bush
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/95fff8579aaf0eb
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 4:22 am
From: "Tx Max King"

This is from congress.org. Thought it would be worth sharing.

Subject:
I'd like your help

To:
President George Bush

April 10, 2006

Dear President Bush:

I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I
would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from
the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can
help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas
and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.

So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my
way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need,
whether I use them or not.

3. All government forms need to be printed in English.

4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.

5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag
pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.

7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to
government services.

9. I do not plan to have any car insurance and I won't make any effort to
learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from
Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak
English.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my
car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any
complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don't
enforce any labor laws or tax laws.

13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never
say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the
economy.

14. I don't expect to have myself or my family checked or vaccinated against
any communicable diseases.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for
all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that President
Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting
with your V.P.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

Orem , UT

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TOPIC: HOMELAND SECURITY AGENT ARRESTED FOR SEDUCING 14-YR-OLD GIRL
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9334c1cbc0f97e
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 4:22 am
From: usenet@mantra.comm94i1 and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

No I didn't know that but it makes sense. Who wouldn't want
to protect their children from Christian priests!

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

In article <xIC_f.661$fG3.223@dukeread09>,
"are we on same page?" <sayhello@hotmail.com> posted:
> this guy surely excels. did you know that all eyetalian parents remove their
> "child on board" bumper sticker as soon as they enter vatican?
>
>
> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>
> > Perhaps he's building up a resume (CV) to be able to
> > become a priest in a Christian church.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <hFcZf.9711$9h5.1602@dukeread09>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >> this is so unamerican.
> >> i just want to know if the guy was affiliated with some
> >> church before he got the job as part of faith based initiative.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
> >>
> >> > Homeland Agent Arrested in Seduction Case
> >> >
> >> > By Michelle Spitzer, Associated Press Writer
> >> > The Associated Press
> >> > Tuesday, April 4, 2006
> >> >
> >> > Miami - The deputy press secretary for the U.S.
> >> > Department of Homeland Security was arrested Tuesday for
> >> > using the Internet to seduce what he thought was a
> >> > teenage girl, authorities said.
> >> >
> >> > Brian J. Doyle, 55, was arrested at his residence in
> >> > Maryland on charges of use of a computer to seduce a
> >> > child and transmission of harmful material to a minor.
> >> > The charges were issued out of Polk County, Fla.
> >> >
> >> > Doyle, of Silver Spring, Md., had a sexually explicit
> >> > conversation with what he believed was a 14-year-old girl
> >> > whose profile he saw on the Internet on March 14, the
> >> > Polk County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.
> >> >
> >> > The girl was an undercover Polk County Sheriff's Computer
> >> > Crimes detective, the sheriff's office said.
> >> >
> >> > Doyle sent the girl pornographic movie clips and had
> >> > sexually explicit conversations via the Internet, the
> >> > statement said.
> >> >
> >> > During other online conversations, Doyle revealed his
> >> > name, that he worked for the Homeland Security Department
> >> > and offered his office and government issued cell phone
> >> > numbers, the sheriff's office said.
> >> >
> >> > Doyle also sent photos of himself to the girl, but
> >> > authorities said they were not sexually explicit.
> >> >
> >> > On several occasions, Doyle instructed her to perform a
> >> > sexual act while thinking of him and described explicit
> >> > activities he wanted to have with her, investigators
> >> > said.
> >> >
> >> > Doyle later had a telephone conversation with an
> >> > undercover deputy posing as the teenager and encouraged
> >> > her to purchase a web camera to send graphic images of
> >> > herself to him, the sheriff's office said.
> >> >
> >> > He was booked into Maryland's Montgomery County jail
> >> > where he was waiting to be extradited to Florida, the
> >> > sheriff's office said.
> >> >
> >> > There was no immediate response to messages left on
> >> > Doyle's government-issued cell phone and his e-mail, and
> >> > he could not be reached by phone at the jail for comment.
> >> >
> >> > Homeland Security press secretary Russ Knocke in
> >> > Washington said he could not comment on the details of
> >> > the investigation. "We take these allegations very
> >> > seriously, and we will cooperate fully with the ongoing
> >> > investigation," Knocke said.
> >> >
> >> > Doyle, who is the fourth-ranking official in the
> >> > department's public affairs office, was expected to be
> >> > placed on administrative leave Wednesday morning.
> >> >
> >> > More at:
> >> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060405/ap_on_re_us/press_secretary_arrested
> >> >
> >> > Jai Maharaj
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> >> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> >> > Om Shanti
> >> >
> >> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> >> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> >> >
> >> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> >> > http://www.hindu.org
> >> > http://www.hindunet.org
> >> >
> >> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> >> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
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TOPIC: $10,000 Reward for Thai Air Force Commander Akkavibul
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/416ef42277b367dc
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 7 2006 6:09 am
From: Anonymous

Reward paid on conviction of Suchart and Yuwadee Akkavibul.

http://thailand.ahrchk.net/mainfile.php/general/29/

http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/mainfile.php/2004/886/

-=-
This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.

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TOPIC: Canada labels Tamils terrorists
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/41889b1d744b94c9
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:33 am
From: "Andrew A. Nanton"

Finally we can sweep these terrorists to the curb..... the Tamils are
illegal and they will be sent to jail. The police will now be focussing
their attention on them a little more.

NO MORE MONEY FROM CANADA, YOU ASSHOLE TAMILS!

Canada labels Tamils terrorists
>From correspondents in Ottawa
11apr06

CANADA added the Sri Lankan separatist Tamil Tigers to its list of
terrorist organisations, Minister of Public Safety Stockwell Day
announced.

The declaration made the The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), or
Tamil Tigers, a group fighting for the autonomy of northeastern Sri
Lanka, the 39th organisation deemed a terrorist group by the Canadian
Government.

Day said in a statement that the move was taken to protect Canadians
from terrorism.

According to a Human Rights Watch study released last month, the group
extorts money from Sri Lankan Tamil immigrants in Britain and Canada.

"Many members of the diaspora actively support the Tamil Tigers. But the
culture of fear is so strong that even Tamils who don't (support them)
feel they have no choice but to give money," the report said.

The LTTE rebels have been fighting for autonomy for more than 30 years,
in a conflict that has claimed at least 60,000 lives.

It is good to see that these Tamil asswipes will be sent to jail and
they can either shut up or go back home.

Andrew A. Nanton
a.nanton@gmail.com

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TOPIC: Ali Asker declares: "We are the TERRORISTS..."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3c16c18f25fafbe3
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 9:36 pm
From: "rick murphy"

http://www.thenewanatolian.com/tna-4462.html

PKK uses drugs to finance terror

The New Anatolian / Ankara

Terrorist organizations started drug smuggling to finance their
activities following the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the U.S., according
to a new police report.

The Turkish police reported there have been 333 cases of drug smuggling
cases linked to terrorist organizations such as the Kurdistan Workers'
Party (PKK), the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia
(ASALA), the Turkish Communist Party/Marxist-Leninist (TKP/ML) and the
Revolutionary People's Liberation Party / Front (DHKP/C) since 1984.

The report underlines that terrorist organizations are financed through
aid from states that support them and illegal activities, especially
drug smuggling, and maintains that terrorist organizations have a share
in the annual $500 billion drug smuggling pie.

According to the report, some states finance terrorist organizations
and provide them with arms, documents, training and logistical support.

"However terrorist organizations edged towards drug smuggling as a
source of finance as a result of campaigns to condemn states that
support terrorism, especially after Sept. 11," the report added.

The police said that as a result of effective measures taken to deal
with the assets of terrorist groups and the financial aid they receive
from non-governmental organizations (NGO) which support them being
reduced, they have been pushed into further involvement in drug
smuggling.

On an international level the PKK, al-Qaeda, Colombian Revolutionary
Armed Forces (FARC), Sendero Luminoso (Peru), Hezbullah and Basque
Homeland and Freedom (ETA) Spain are the terrorist organizations most
engaged in drug smuggling.

The report also emphasizes that terrorist groups hide their
drug-smuggling business from the public to avoid damaging their image
since drug smuggling is generally seen as a crime against humanity.

Testimony from those arrested in narcotics operations in Turkey, drugs
obtained at their houses and documents showing financial transactions
related to drug smuggling have confirmed that the PKK is engaged in
drug smuggling.

The report further stated that the imprisoned leader of the PKK,
Abdullah Ocalan, has admitted that the organization is involved in drug
smuggling, adding that officers of Hakkari's Anti-Smuggling and
Organized Crime Department seized 42 kilograms of heroin in Yuksekova
last April, which was later proven to belong to the PKK.

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TOPIC: PKK uses drugs to finance terror
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3890f99323557201
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 9:37 pm
From: "rick murphy"

http://www.thenewanatolian.com/tna-4462.html

PKK uses drugs to finance terror

The New Anatolian / Ankara

Terrorist organizations started drug smuggling to finance their
activities following the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the U.S., according
to a new police report.

According to the report, some states finance terrorist organizations
and provide them with arms, documents, training and logistical support.

"However terrorist organizations edged towards drug smuggling as a
source of finance as a result of campaigns to condemn states that
support terrorism, especially after Sept. 11," the report added.

The report also emphasizes that terrorist groups hide their
drug-smuggling business from the public to avoid damaging their image
since drug smuggling is generally seen as a crime against humanity.

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TOPIC: I am not at all in agreement with you in legalizing the many illegals
currently here
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/567ba95585933050
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 12:35 am
From: "PM"

Dear Andre:
I am aware that this is a subject that you have studied and have opinions
about it.
I am not at all in agreement with you in legalizing the many illegals
currently here, fine or no fine. Crossing the border illegally is a habit
that Mexicans have exercised for years.

People from Guatemala, Peru, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc. came in with a
Temporary Permit, which is now very limited, so now they're also coming
through Mexico. The Mexican border is unprotected and vulnerable; thus,
clandestine methods have taken over. Most of these Mexican indians are good
people that want compensation for their hard work so they can support their
families. They come to the U.S. merely to make decent wages, having no love
or loyalty for this country, so it is outrageously wrong and extremely
foolish to offer these people citizenship as if it were the only way to hold
a job.

What are these officials in Washington D.C. thinking about? Have they all
gone mad?
How can this United States waive the existing laws for only a selected group
of violators?

Whether they are decent folks, most of them, is not the issue. Let's not
even touch the subject of safety for the citizens of this nation. Among
those decent and hard-working folks, many disguising themselves as Mexicans
will take advantage of our negligence and lack of commitment to our own
laws.

We constantly turn back people that come here, not as immigrants but as
refugees. These have a more valid reason because they're persecuted in their
own country, and by escaping tyranny they risk their very own lives.

These good Mexicans need encouragement to do the right thing, which is to
demand from their democratic system of government to provide better
conditions for them.

What happens now with the millions already here?

It presents a problem and harsh punishment for many of these undocumented
and good workers, but they must be treated as any regular violator, as we
could be treated if disobeying the laws or lying to officials.

There must be a solution, usually the simplest is the best...

People that want to work in the US must apply for a permit from their
Mexican government. If a permit application is granted in Mexico and
forwarded to the U.S. Immigration Dept., then an appropriate permit can be
issued; for skilled, unskilled, trade or domestic workers. Anyone without
documentation is still in violation and must be returned.
Those that are unlawfully employed must be reported immediately in order to
obtain a temporary permit until the permit from the INS is obtained.
Fraudulent behavior by employers is a grave offense. Employers cannot hire
undocumented and illegal workers without facing severe consequences.

In short, the present laws should and must be enforced.
No ticket, No laundry.
Regards,
Rose
Chachi Novellas Bengochea
Delray Beach, Florida U.S.A.
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exposes sugar price control by ADM, owners of Wash. DC. Order your DVD copy
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Traversa" <goandre@xnet.com>
To: "CHACHI" <novellas@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: Latino or Hispanic?

rose,
As you may recall, I don't agree with many of my fellow conservatives on
this issue.
Although we need border security, we should also legalize many of the
illegals who are currently here; but they should also pay a heavy fine.
We must also increase legal immigration, including visas for unskilled
workers.
It's very easy for Americans to blame complex problems on foreigners;
they're an easy target.
Andre

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, CHACHI wrote:

>
> Following is the opinion just received from a friend.
> He's a Viet-Nam veteran, who was badly hurt in combat during an air
> strike mission. He's now a retired captain of the U.S. Air Force.
> Why I abhor the terms "latino" and "hispanic"
> I need to clarify a few things regarding the recent protests by
> "latinos" or "hispanics" throughout the US.
>
> First, there is no such thing as a "latino" race. There is no such
> thing as an "hispanic" race. Both terms are contrived and used solely
> for census purposes. There is no such country as "Latinolandia", and
> "Hispaniola" is technically half of an island in the Caribbean.
>
> Second, I am not nor will I ever be part of "La Raza." Nor do I agree
> or support their current protests. Some of you may, but I do not.
>
> Third, I have never and will never, despite having many issues with
> the government of the United States throughout the years, burn a flag
> of the United States of America. I am Cuban by birth, American by the
> grace of God. And a darned proud, dignified, thankful and respectful
> American.
>
> Fourth, while I certainly sympathize with the Mexican people for their
> country's economic and social troubles, I refuse to be lumped together
> as a class or a race simply because we speak a similar language. If
> Mexicans and Mexican-Americans had wanted my support, then they should
> have supported the cause of a free and democratic Cuba, instead of the
> majority and at times the Mexican government having sided with and
> legitimizing the government of fidel castro.
>
> Fifth, there is a difference between a Cuban living in the United
> States and a Mexican living in the United States. One is a political
> refugee and the other is an immigrant, respectively. When Mexicans are
> being oppressed and have their basic human rights trampeled by their
> government as Cubans do, then perhaps my opinion will change, until
> then, the aforementioned difference stands.
>
> Mexicans and Mexican-Americans may very well have legitimate gripes
> with the government of the US, but as La Raza, the flags they are
> burning and flying up-side down below the Mexican flag do not speak
> for me.
>
> I am not Mexican, I am not Latino and I am not Hispanic. I am an
> American of Cuban descent. And damned proud of it.
>
> JohnC

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TOPIC: all i'm doing is redefining stable from israeli nazis seizing land at
whim.... to... international law holds sway in spite of israel's false flag
militant groups.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/30a9995064f65bd0
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 4:57 am
From: "Doc Martian"

cheers!
Doc

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 1:10 am
From: "serwad"

"Doc Martian" <docmartian@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hHG_f.10441$WL4.6205@trnddc07...
> cheers!
> Doc
Likewise

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TOPIC: Pathetic Indo-Canadian figure skater from Vancouver, BC...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/79dba2ad09a5ebd8
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 9:59 pm
From: "Scorpy"

Listen up a-hole, go F$%^ yourself!
You're going to kick my rear? You couldn't punch your way out of a
paper bag, you paki scum! I didn't spill the beans when it came to
telling you everything about me, you prick!

I would love to meet you in the back alley somewhere, so that you and I
could exchange some pleasantries then!

Your English doesn't sound too sensible to me either, paki, so there is
a communication issue right there.

You want to show me MY PLACE!

All I feel towards you is RAGE! I would love to tangle with a fat paki
like you in the ring, or on the street, your choice!

...or, better yet, just go to hell! A one way ticket just for you,
muhammed!

Pleasant regards, SCORP.

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TOPIC: is president Bush preparing to use Nuclear bombs to destroy Iran ?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4394913e837521f4
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 10:01 pm
From: denny_cheng@163.com

Komin 写道：

> Denny ,
>
> you have a good projection of what might happen to the US dollars ,
> I like your analysis , but I don' t agree with all of them .
>
> the Russians now are restingand reposing in Central Asia , doing not
> much there,
> because the Russians are letting the Chinese to make counter blocking
> of US influence in Central Asia .
> the US is using Israeli businessmen as their US agents in Central
> Asia .
>
> the Russians will see the outcome of the Chinese push in Central Asia
> against the US ,
> before the Russians will counter -act again against the US in Central
> Asia .
>
> But you have a good idea on how the US will save the US dolars .
> when will the US national deficits reach 10 trillion US$ mark ?

May be you confused "Middle East" and "Middle Asia". Generally
speaking, they are two closed areas, but the sitations in these two
areas are quite different.

And, Russia never reposed and will never repose in Middle East or
Middle Asia. China now joined the competition. But China is a new
comer of the competition in these two areas, she has too much things to
do before she can influence others.

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TOPIC: Smug Alert - San Francisco disappears up its own asshole...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2fdfb4b42f5ccc02
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 10:03 pm
From: "David Kaye"

Four-Way Windowpane wrote:
> I just moved to the Bay Area and watched the new South Park
> which picks on that city. I almost died laughing. Matt &
> Trey got the city perfect, full of smug, self-righteous
> adults who enjoy sniffing their own farts, and their kids
> who take lots of drugs.

If you don't like it here, why did you move here? Obviously you must
LOVE it here or you wouldn't be living in one of the two most expensive
places to live in North America.

May I suggest Dallas to you?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 10:07 pm
From: "David Kaye"

Four-Way Windowpane wrote:

> Sorry, you're right. I must look like a druggie because everywhere
> I go people offer me drugs.

That's correct. I travel all over San Francisco and Berkeley. People
don't offer me drugs. Okay, maybe once a month someone says "Late
Night" to me. I thought that was a drug like speed or something.
Turns out that someone wanted to sell me a late night Muni bus transfer
for a quarter.

And speaking about transportation (this is crossposted to a
transportation newsgroup after all), what is it with all those buses
saying "Nowhere In Particular" on their headsigns? Love it. Only in
SF!

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TOPIC: INDIANA CITY CONSIDERS BUSH IMPEACHMENT
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2971abc818ddba44
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 5:06 am
From: "effty"

<usenet@mantra.comk935f and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote
in message news:20060410NIIZE4745uGPLi@LfuA...
> In article <cYE_f.3979$XI6.446@trnddc05>,
> "effty" <gospameffty@yahoo.com> posted:
>>
>> "A Brick in the Wall" <NoSpam@NoThanks.com> wrote in message
>> news:443a6039_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Now Indiana will be attacked instead of Iran -- I guess it was just too
>> > close alphabetically.
>>
>> By that logic Bush should be giving Indiana nuclear weapons. It is much
>> closer in spelling to India, afterall.
>>
>> ~e.
>
> Bharat (aka India) can use all the nukes it can get to
> counter the threat from ChiComs and terrorist Pakistan, but
> do you really think that the US Congresscritters will let
> Bush assist Bharat in that respect?
>
> Jai Maharaj
> http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> Om Shanti

I'd rather we not spread any nuclear technology around. It would also be
better (overall, I think) if we didn't piss off Pakistan by helping India.
It would be nice if we could just walk into Pakistan and get bin Laden, but
getting bin Laden doesn't really seem to have ever been the plan. In
Pakistan, we have another terrorist breeding ground instead of an ally in
the "war on terror." That seems to be the ultimate result of Bush's
heavy-handed foreign policy.

~e.

>> > www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>> >
>> >> Ind. city considers Bush impeachment
>> >>
>> >> Associated Press
>> >> indystar.com
>> >> Monday, April 10, 2006
>> >>
>> >> Lake Station, Ind. - Officials in this northwestern
>> >> Indiana city of about 14,000 have agreed to discuss a
>> >> resolution urging Congress to impeach President Bush.
>> >>
>> >> The Lake Station City Council will consider a resolution
>> >> April 13 at the request of resident Brian Cretton.
>> >> Cretton attended Thursday's council meeting and read a
>> >> prepared statement asking officials to place impeachment
>> >> on their agenda.
>> >>
>> >> Cretton said the president had misled the country about
>> >> Iraq, allowed illegal spying on Americans and violated
>> >> international torture treaties.
>> >>
>> >> People in the audience laughed and applauded when Mayor
>> >> Shirley Wadding said to "add impeaching Bush" to the
>> >> agenda.
>> >>
>> >> Council President Keith Soderquist said the request was
>> >> unique.
>> >>
>> >> "We've never been given anything like this before," he
>> >> said.
>> >>
>> >> More at:
>> >>
>>
>> http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060410/LOCAL/604100411/-
>> 1/RSS
>> >>
>> >> Jai Maharaj
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
>> >> http://www.mantra.com/jai
>> >> Om Shanti
>> >>
>> >> Hindu Holocaust Museum
>> >> http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
>> >>
>> >> Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
>> >> http://www.hindu.org
>> >> http://www.hindunet.org
>> >>
>> >> The truth about Islam and Muslims
>> >> http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
>> >>
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>> >> educational
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>> >> for
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 10:12 pm
From: "effty"

"A Brick in the Wall" <NoSpam@NoThanks.com> wrote in message
news:443b22bf$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
> "effty" <gospameffty@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:cYE_f.3979$XI6.446@trnddc05...
>>
>> "A Brick in the Wall" <NoSpam@NoThanks.com> wrote in message
>> news:443a6039_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>> Now Indiana will be attacked instead of Iran -- I guess it was just too
>>> close alphabetically.
>>
>> By that logic Bush should be giving Indiana nuclear weapons. It is much
>> closer in spelling to India, afterall.
>>
>> ~e.
>>
>
> Good point -- but giving Mitch Daniels nukes is a huge danger --- Mitch
> has lower poll numbers than even Bush & he is in his first term (& likely
> his last --- but if he could nuke OHIO ------- now there's a campaign
> slogan)

Yeah, I live in Indiana. Mitch is probably not getting re-elected. I'm
impressed that people here are discussing impeachment! Indiana has been
very, very RED in my time here. I see promising signs of life though.
Along with the current crop of election signs someone has also been putting
up signs that just say "Bush Lies." You can't argue with that slogan!

~e.

>>> <usenet@mantra.comEgo60 and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)>
>>> wrote in message news:20060410hiEgo6071EtQjI@QgoI...
>>>> Ind. city considers Bush impeachment
>>>>
>>>> Associated Press
>>>> indystar.com
>>>> Monday, April 10, 2006
>>>>
>>>> Lake Station, Ind. - Officials in this northwestern
>>>> Indiana city of about 14,000 have agreed to discuss a
>>>> resolution urging Congress to impeach President Bush.
>>>>
>>>> The Lake Station City Council will consider a resolution
>>>> April 13 at the request of resident Brian Cretton.
>>>> Cretton attended Thursday's council meeting and read a
>>>> prepared statement asking officials to place impeachment
>>>> on their agenda.
>>>>
>>>> Cretton said the president had misled the country about
>>>> Iraq, allowed illegal spying on Americans and violated
>>>> international torture treaties.
>>>>
>>>> People in the audience laughed and applauded when Mayor
>>>> Shirley Wadding said to "add impeaching Bush" to the
>>>> agenda.
>>>>
>>>> Council President Keith Soderquist said the request was
>>>> unique.
>>>>
>>>> "We've never been given anything like this before," he
>>>> said.
>>>>
>>>> More at:
>>>> http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060410/LOCAL/604100411/-1/RSS
>>>>
>>>> Jai Maharaj
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
>>>> http://www.mantra.com/jai
>>>> Om Shanti
>>>>
>>>> Hindu Holocaust Museum
>>>> http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
>>>>
>>>> Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
>>>> http://www.hindu.org
>>>> http://www.hindunet.org
>>>>
>>>> The truth about Islam and Muslims
>>>> http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
>>>>
>>>> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
>>>> educational
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>>>> not
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>>>> the
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>>>> for
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>>>> current
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>>>> are
>>>> not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the
>>>> article.
>>>>
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>>>> of
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>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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TOPIC: Bush still willing to use agressive war -- Iran next?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ffc46ecbd86efe06
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 5:25 am
From: greccogirl

Ray Benson wrote:
> "If necessary, however, under long-standing principles of self-defense, we
> do not rule out the use of force before attacks occur even if uncertainty
> remains as to the time and place of the enemy's attack," Bush wrote.
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1732070
>
>
>
> This pres is obviously a few bricks short of a load. Why in the hell is
> this man still in office?
>
>
>
What the HELL did you think was going to happen to Iran?

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TOPIC: Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9aae5acd814ad828
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 10:28 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com77ay www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Jai Maharaj

http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc

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TOPIC: Some say Iran's weapons come from Russia
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/938d3d0d2a6b5e90
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 10:33 pm
From: "James H. Hood"

captain. <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
news:6cq_f.50025$%H.26776@clgrps13...
>
> "James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
> news:4439f93a$0$1008$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net...
> >
> > captain. <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
> > news:qgh_f.45659$Ph4.40049@edtnps90...
> >>
> >> "James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44396a1a$0$1008$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net...
> >> >
> >> > captain. <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:lc8_f.45580$Ph4.6131@edtnps90...
> >> >>
> >> >> "James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4438c81e$0$1018$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@priv.onet.pl> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:87acaw6xfx.fsf@anfi.homeunix.net...
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Of course we all belive that these (potentially) "multipurpose
> >> > cultures"
> >> >> >> will never ever be used for other purposes that the one
*currently*
> >> >> >> *officially* stated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So show us where the production facilities are located.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> of course. if we can't easily find where they are located then they
> > must
> >> > not
> >> >> exist.
> >> >
> >> > Prove they exist.
> >> >
> >>
> >> are you a communist? you're acting like one.
> >
> > You ARE a dolt, and are acting like one.
> >
>
> you make a stupid statement and you get a stupid response from me. unless
> you are politically blind, in which case i apologize in advance.

You get no apologies from me, you defeatist coward.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 12:35 am
From: "James H. Hood"

<vkarlamov@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144705768.974876.198010@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
> James H. Hood wrote:
> > Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@priv.onet.pl> wrote in message
> > news:87vetjt8lx.fsf@anfi.homeunix.net...
> > > "James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> writes:
> > >
> > > > Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@priv.onet.pl> wrote in message
> > > > news:87acaw6xfx.fsf@anfi.homeunix.net...
> > > >> "TBD" <yournamehere@yourdomain.com> writes:
> > > >> > [...]
> > > >> > You will believe anything cap. The US maintains biological
cultures
> > for
> > > >> > developing countermeasures for biological agents but is not
> > developing
> > > >> > chemical or biological weapons.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If you don't believe me, go to Fort Dedrick and lick a few Petri
> > dishes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Of course we all belive that these (potentially) "multipurpose
> > cultures"
> > > >> will never ever be used for other purposes that the one *currently*
> > > >> *officially* stated.
> > > >
> > > > So show us where the production facilities are located.
> > >
> > > Do you encourage me me to use double standards?!!
> > > I use exactly the same standard of proof that USA used against Iraq.
> > > Shame on *YOU*! It is up to USA to prove it is innocent :-)
> >
> > Except that Iraq did indeed have production facilities.....why else go
to
> > the trouble and expense of buying equipment for your cattle-feed plants
> > manufactured and polished to a degree far in excess of that need,
> >
>
> A lot of children like very shiny objects. GW Bush, for example. He is
> hypnotized by them.

Feel free to rejoin the discussion when you've managed to borrow a clue.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 12:35 am
From: "James H. Hood"

<vkarlamov@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144705928.987643.245940@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>
> Vladimir Makarenko wrote:
> > captain. wrote:
> >
> > > "James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
> > > news:44396a1a$0$1008$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net...
> > >
> > >>captain. <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
> > >>news:lc8_f.45580$Ph4.6131@edtnps90...
> > >>
> > >>>"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
> > >>>news:4438c81e$0$1018$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net...
> > >>>
> > >>>>Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@priv.onet.pl> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:87acaw6xfx.fsf@anfi.homeunix.net...
> > >>>
> > >>>>>Of course we all belive that these (potentially) "multipurpose
> > >>
> > >>cultures"
> > >>
> > >>>>>will never ever be used for other purposes that the one *currently*
> > >>>>>*officially* stated.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>So show us where the production facilities are located.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>of course. if we can't easily find where they are located then they
must
> > >>
> > >>not
> > >>
> > >>>exist.
> > >>
> > >>Prove they exist.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > are you a communist? you're acting like one.
> > >
> >
> > How do communists act?
> >
>
> Like James Hood, of course.

I smell projection.

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TOPIC: Should Hiroshima and Nagasaki bar US investment and merchandise ?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4ff4bcb10541ff10
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 5:38 am
From: Vernon North

In article <S_6dndOboqF8labZRVn-qQ@comcast.com>, cindy15464973@att.net
says...
> Vernon North wrote:
>
> > What I've seen includes film shot a few days after the bombs were
> > dropped. It showed confused and dazed people wandering through the
> > streets, many suffering from terrible burns, walking helplessly like
> > zombies through areas where all buildings had been totally flattened by
> > the blast. Also, people in clinics and makeshift hospitals, horribly
> > disfigured -- noses and ears burned off, skin looking as though it had
> > been melted, lying helplessly on cots. Many looked as though they
> > didn't have a hope of surviving. It was heart-rending to watch. They
> > were clearly civilians, not a threat to anyone -- women, children and
> > old men.
>
> Sounds like a normal war scene to me. What is special about Hiroshima
> and Nagasaki? It is ionizing radiation. You got to pay attention to
> what was done by the ionizing radiation. That will be the main reason
> to protest against the use of nuclear weapons.

That is not my biggest concern about nuclear weapons. To be killed by
ionizing radiation is terrible, but I don't think it's worse than a
lingering, painful death by some other means. No, I think the biggest
danger of nuclear weapons is what they do to the balance of power, and
how they make the world a far more dangerous place. Nukes give nations
which have them the power to destroy nations that don't have them, while
not risking their own destruction. It reduces the "price" in human terms
of making war against non-nuclear nations. This in turn motivates other
nations which don't have them to get them in self defense, and before
long, the world ends up a far more dangerous place than it was before.
That, to me, is the reason to protest nuclear weapons.
>
> If you visit the Hiroshima Peace Park, you will see a large number of
> drawings that were drawn by the survivors. The bomb blew up 50m above
> the ground. The blast was consisted of 85% fire, 5% wind, and 10%
> radiation. In later extrapolation, the scientists estimated the maximum
> radiation of 800mGy (interestingly, not very high) after 60 seconds of
> the explosion on the ground zero. Going back to the drawings again, in
> all the drawings, all the dead bodies and causalities were wearing
> little clothes. They were almost naked. The blast burned everybody's
> clothes instantly. There were some photos showing the causalities'
> skins that had the prints of their kimono at the bombing time. The
> radiation printed the kimono patterns to the skins. The pictures also
> showed that many burned people jumped into the river and got drown.
>
> Because it was August and they got a burn trauma, the surviving victims
> craved for water. It was truly a bad idea to drink water or soak into
> water after irradiated. After you get irradiated with an abnormally
> high dose of radiation, you will have acute radiation syndrome. It
> could be hematopoietic (2~10Gy), gastrointestinal(10~50Gy), or
> cerebrovascuular syndrome (50Gy). There is a difference in the dose of
> level on each syndrome, but all of them take the same steps to death:
>
> Prodromal period -- severe nausea, vomiting, diarrhea
> Latent period -- the above symptom disappears for 12 hours to a week
> Manifest period -- even more severe NVD
> Death

Much of this was covered in the documentaries I have seen -- in North
America.

Those who insist that people in North America have somehow been
sheltered from the truth about the bombs dropped on Japan don't know
what they're talking about. I'm sure many Americans haven't watched
these documentaries, but not because they aren't shown.

Verno

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TOPIC: Colorado: Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/02f1882ac30dc275
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 10:44 pm
From: Alric Knebel

Way Back Jack wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 13:31:57 -0500, Alric Knebel
> <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>
>
>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:12:21 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>><alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 08:00:24 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>>>><alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:23:44 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>>>>>><alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:25:58 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>>>>>>>><alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 14:04:13 -0500, "Joe S." <anon@mous.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"127.0.0.1" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:1820414.mvXUDI8C0e@0ICU8I2...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Colorado: White Kids Stage Old Glory Walkout
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Report; Posted on: 2006-03-31 20:22:56 [ Printer friendly / Instant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>flyer ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Go Falcons!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Dozens" of White students walked out of Skyline High School ("Home of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Falcons") in Longmont, Colorado on Friday (March 31, 2006) in protest over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>an administration policy that bans the display of the United States flag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>campus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I doubt it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, wait, I see -- National Vanguard. Nothing here, folks, move along.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Beats the hell out of La Raza Tribune, Pancho.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Oh, oh. It looks like Topaz finally find himself a bunker-mate. After
>>>>>>>>>>all this time, true love strikes. It's almost like one of those
>>>>>>>>>>romantic comedies, where the forlorn lover continues to pursue his or
>>>>>>>>>>her dream of a perfect romance against all odds, then, finally, he or
>>>>>>>>>>she is rewarded. And here YOU are, piping up to come to the rescue of
>>>>>>>>>>this empty-headed nincompoop, who's posted the same articles for years,
>>>>>>>>>>and who can not defend this racist bullshit with his own words. THAT is
>>>>>>>>>>an inferior human being, you dope, hoping that the accomplishments of
>>>>>>>>>>his race validate his own shortcomings. How about you? Are you one of
>>>>>>>>>>these white supremacists? Are you one of these mental weaklings
>>>>>>>>>>obsessed with race?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Here's some more racist bullshit from the racist FBI and racist New
>>>>>>>>>England Journal Of Medicine, among other sources:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Black/White Street Crime Ratios:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I didn't bother reading it all, but the opening paragraph in your
>>>>>>>>responses suggests
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That you will keep your head in the sand, like a good brainwashed
>>>>>>>liberal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Keep my head in the sand about what, you fanatic? I don't care about IQ
>>>>>>averages. What difference does it make, even if it's true? If they had
>>>>>>an average IQ higher than whites, how would that change my life or even
>>>>>>YOUR life? What's there to hide from? And why are YOU obsessed with
>>>>>>it? I know some very talented black people and some very stupid white
>>>>>>people. What difference does all of this counting make on the bottom
>>>>>>line?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually the issue was crime and morality, not IQs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do try to stay focused:
>>>>
>>>>Actually, the issue was IQs. Try to keep up with the rest of the class.
>>>
>>>
>>>Well, let's see:
>>>
>>>Black/White Street Crime Ratios:
>>>
>>>Murder/neg. msltr.: 5.39/1
>>>Forcible Rape: 2.89/1
>>>Robbery: 6.55/1
>>>Aggravated assault: 2.88/1
>>>Burglary: 2.45/1
>>>
>>>The white crime data include Hispanic crime. If Hispanic crime were
>>>removed from white data, the black/white ratio would be even more
>>>extreme.
>>>
>>>http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_00/00crime4.pdf
>>>______
>>>
>>>And for you to blame crime on socioeconomics, please note that the
>>>poverty rate in a recent year does not correlate well with the crime
>>>rates. The black/white poverty ratio (2001) was 2.3/1 (Hispanics not
>>>included) based on the following poverty rates:
>>>white: 9.9%
>>>black: 22.7%
>>>Hispanic: 21.7%
>>>
>>>Secondly, while you may argue that a hungry group would naturally
>>>commit more robberies, what's your excuse for rape, murder, assault?
>>>
>>>("Dat whyte guy makes more money then me,so I think I'll rape my
>>>neighbor.") Huh!!!??!
>>>
>>>Thirdly, the muscular thugs who are committing this savagery look
>>>anything but hungry.
>>>
>>>Finally, in a recent study of NFL players, it was found that their
>>>crime rates were only slightly less than those of their respective
>>>demographic groups in the general population. ("Pros And Cons: The
>>>Criminals Who Play In The NFL" by Jeff yaeger and Jeff Benedict,
>>>Time-Life Books)
>>>
>>>Even Je$$e Jack$on was left speechless.
>>>
>>>It ain't fiscal bankruptcy, but moral bankruptcy, aided-and-abetted by
>>>the guilty white liberal girly men who continue to make excuses and
>>>keep them on a victim plantatation of self-pity, anger, and hatred.
>>>
>>>
>>>_________
>>>
>>>For blacks for the year 2000 OOW was 68.5% per:
>>>
>>>http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_05tb19.pdf
>>>
>>>I have seen as high as 69.1% for other years.
>>>______________
>>>http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/337/16/1105
>>>
>>>EXCERPT FROM ABSTRACT: Results From 1988 to 1994, the seroprevalence
>>>of HSV-2 in persons 12 years of age or older in the United States was
>>>21.9 percent (95 percent confidence interval, 20.2 to 23.6 percent),
>>>corresponding to 45 million infected people in the
>>>noninstitutionalized civilian population. The seroprevalence was
>>>higher among women (25.6 percent) than men (17.8 percent) and higher
>>>among blacks (45.9 percent) than whites (17.6 percent).
>>>
>>>_______
>>>
>>>Nope, the issue was crime and morality.
>>
>>I still don't give a shit. Why don't you and your Nazi buddy get
>>together and cuss out the dark races over some good German beer.
>
>
> It's more fun educating whiggers.

Calling me a whigger is just more evidence that you're some empty-headed
nitwit bent over a ledger full of numbers, cooking them one way then
another to support your ideology. You're a kook, and I'm willing to bet
that YOUR IQ and whatever else you consider racially significant is
pretty damn low. I'd rank you right there next to Topaz. I'd bet on
it. The more concerned you are with those things, the greater the
likelihood that you're lacking on those areas. You don't see geniuses
worrying about this shit, do you?

No, you don't.
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
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TOPIC: DRUG COMPANIES INVENTING DISEASES TO BOOST THEIR PROFITS
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 10:46 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com2A006 and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Drugs companies 'inventing diseases to boost their
profits'

By Mark Henderson, Science Correspondent
The Times, UK
Tuesday, April 11, 2006

Pharmaceutical companies are systematically creating
diseases in order to sell more of their products, turning
healthy people into patients and placing many at risk of
harm, a special edition of a leading medical journal
claims today.

The practice of "diseasemongering" by the drug industry
is promoting non-existent illnesses or exaggerating minor
ones for the sake of profits, according to a set of
essays published by the open-access journal Public
Library of Science Medicine.

The special issue, edited by David Henry, of Newcastle
University in Australia, and Ray Moynihan, an Australian
journalist, reports that conditions such as female sexual
dysfunction, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
(ADHD) and "restless legs syndrome" have been promoted by
companies hoping to sell more of their drugs.

Other minor problems that are a normal part of life, such
as symptoms of the menopause, are also becoming
increasingly "medicalised", while risk factors such as
high cholesterol levels or osteoporosis are being
presented as diseases in their own right, according to
the editors.

"Disease-mongering turns healthy people into patients,
wastes precious resources and causes iatrogenic
(medically induced) harm," they say. "Like the marketing
strategies that drive it, disease-mongering poses a
global challenge to those interested in public health,
demanding in turn a global response."

Doctors, patients and support groups need to be more
aware that pharmaceutical companies are taking this
approach, and more research is needed into the changing
ways in which conditions are presented, according to the
writers.

Disease-awareness campaigns are often funded by drug
companies, and "more often designed to sell drugs than to
illuminate or inform or educate about the prevention of
illness or the maintenance of health", they say.

Particular conditions that are highlighted in the journal
include sexual function in both men and women. The
prevalence of female sexual dysfunction, one paper
claims, has been highly exaggerated to provide a new
market for drugs, while the makers of anti-impotence
medicines, such as Viagra and Cialis, have been involved
with their presentation as lifestyle drugs that can boost
the sexual prowess of healthy men.

Ordinary shyness is routinely presented as a social
anxiety disorder and treated with antidepressants, while
newly identified conditions such as "restless legs
syndrome" - a constant urge to move one's legs - are
presented as being much more common than they really are.

Richard Ley, of the Association of the British
Pharmaceutical Industry, rejected the accusations,
pointing out that Britain has firm safeguards against
disease-mongering. Many of the authors' criticisms, he
said, were aimed squarely at countries such as the United
States, where pharmaceuticals can be openly advertised
directly to patients.

"Drug companies are not allowed to communicate directly
with patients, and we do not invent diseases," he said.

"We provide information that there are treatments out
there that might help certain conditions, but at the end
of the day it is down to health professionals to decide
if they are appropriate.

"The best safeguard is that the doctor who knows the
product and knows the patient's history is the one who
decides what to prescribe."

TRICK OR TREAT?

MENOPAUSE

Symptoms include hot flushes, night sweats and loss of
libido

Criticism too often "medicalised" as part of a "disorder"
when it is a normal phase of life

IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME

Symptoms
include constipation, cramps and diarrhoea

Criticism
promoted by drug companies as a serious illness
needing therapy, when it is usually a mild problem

SEXUAL DYSFUNCTION

Symptoms
impotence in men, lack of libido or difficulty
becoming aroused in women

Criticism
drugs such as Viagra marketed not only for
treating genuine erectile dysfunction caused by
medical problems but as lifestyle improvers

OSTEOPOROSIS

Symptoms
thinning of the bones, particularly among
postmenopausal women

Criticism
portrayed as a disease in its own right, when
it is really a risk factor for broken bones

RESTLESS LEGS

Symptoms
urge to move legs because of unpleasant
feelings, often at night

Criticism
prevalence of a relatively rare condition
exaggerated by the media, along with the need for
treatment

More at:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2128371,00.html

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TOPIC: "A good illegal alien is a dead illegal alien"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/dedc802bd2d2c2e0
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 10:47 pm
From: jerkyboy

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:58:47 -0500, "Fastfwd" <fastfwd01@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Angle wrote...
>
>
>>Mexicans' big problem is that they
>>are too passive, centuries of servitude has left them with an attitude
>>that nothing can change, that they are doomed to servitude for all
>>eternity. They should be overthrowing their government, but are too
>>passive to do so.
>
>
>
>Ummm, do you have a television? They don't look so fucking passive to me.
>Why aren't they doing that shit in their own country?

They would be shot, that is why. Look at the farm worker protests
down in southern mexico a few years back by some of the indian tribes
there. Seem to remember mexico just killing off the protestors.

So they know they can get away with it here. And they are. And since
they have no right to protest here, it does kinda make one wonder just
why they are allowed to.

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TOPIC: KANGAROOISTAN - Just another pig felching Muslim that the world hates
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/06284a18b75ee0f3
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 10:47 pm
From: "Anonymous Infidel - Aborted Islam with a hanger"

Wow, the rare instance of someone that is dumber than KANGAROOISTAN....
>
Note: I would comment on your stupidity...But I am pretty sure natural
selection is looking for you. Please, don't keep it waiting....

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