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Tuesday, April 11, 2006

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Today's topics:

* Should Hiroshima and Nagasaki bar US investment and merchandise ? - 2
messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4ff4bcb10541ff10
* WAR IS A RACKET - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/527e844bc1d753b7
* Oil prices race towards $70 US-Iran War Fears: BUSH'S "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"
- 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f88cbf738e7e69a
* A basic history of Zionism and its relation to Judaism - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8a1f42e0957d2abe
* Loser Nation - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/0e8f1c6c727842be
* 3-Bromopyruvate - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/56bd1ab50c73c34e
* India Man who has a U.S. citizenship gets 5 years for trying to obtain
missiles for Taliban - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/fadb883e59f13b32
* 57 Kurdish Children are still under extreme torture in Turkey - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bf648a1352635cca
* HOW ZIONAZIS BRAINWASH AMERICANS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/29badc0e13e10f84
* SIMPLY SPEAKING IT IS A ZIONAZI PROPAGANDA - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/23618c63dbfd0027
* Durante los combates en Bahía de Cochinos, donde desembarcaron un grupo más
de mil exiliados cubanos para tratar de derrocar al sátrapa de - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f45a32fe2044206a
* This Land is Their Land, and We Are the Illegal Aliens - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6f24ab2b39ff1401
* President Washington authorized electronic survilance! ;-) [Was: Some say
Iran's weapons come from Russia] - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/938d3d0d2a6b5e90
* ARISTOTLE: MOST HUMANS NATURAL BORN SLAVES - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bba33877980d5f87
* BEWARE OF THE ZIONAZI PROPAGANDA MACHINE - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/30a9995064f65bd0
* Just who should go back home? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/1b035827b738a510
* ISRAELI FASCIST MURDERERS! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/951289ee396059d1
* Black's lynch mob mentality over alleged Duke assault - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ea6745f7001a01c6
* WATCH OUT FOR JEW GOEBBELS! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b72b21b2ccaacd37
* ISRAEL WANTS YOUR KIDS TO DIE FOR ISRAEL! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/42e5a83213afaee7

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TOPIC: Should Hiroshima and Nagasaki bar US investment and merchandise ?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/4ff4bcb10541ff10
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 5:30 pm
From: Zuo Tung

This is somewhat true. In 1881 King David Kalakaua becomes the first
monarch of any country to travel around the world. In a stopover in
Japan, hoping to form a strategic alliance, he brings up the possibility
of a marriage between Princess Ka'iulani and Prince Komatsu. "Already
Engaged" was the response.

The last Royal Hawaiian flag to be defended during the U.S. led coup
d'etat of 1893 was aboard a Japanese gunboat. The Japanese Imperial Navy
gunboat Naniwa refused to strike the Royal Hawaiian flag from it's mast
during it's anchorage in Honolulu Harbor. After firmly resisting all
threats from the newly installed rebel government, the Naniwa was
finally ordered to lower the colors by the Japanese government. The
captain of the Naniwa later went on to become the greatest naval
commander in the history of Japan. Capt. Heihachiro Togo is credited
with destroying the combined Russian Baltic and Pacific fleets in a
single battle during the Russo-Japanese War, thus galvanizing Japans
status as a world power in the early 20th century.

Dr. bitter anko wrote:
> Don Kirkman のメッセージ:
>
>> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Dr. bitter anko wrote in article
>> <1144613715.961901.59060@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>>
>>> beernuts ??????:
>>>> Zuo Tung wrote:
>>>>> If you read the article, it was totally expected. Even the President of
>>>>> the US knew about it beforehand.
>>>> It was totally expected? Thousands of people died as a result of the
>>>> attack *exactly* because they didn't expect it.
>>> Those are all bastards that had been invading Hawaii, abusing Hawaiians
>>> with their racist colonialist forces. They deserved it. There was only
>>> a few casualties of Hawaiians who were deserved as "people".
>> There was no invasion of Hawaii, and no other Imperial Japanese activity
>> in Hawaii except the events surrounding the Pearl Harbor attack (mini
>> submarines, for instance) and some amount of spying--unless you count
>> Midway which technically is part of the Hawaiian Islands.
>> --
>> Don Kirkman
>
> Surely you are distorting all the historical facts. King Kamehameha
> begged the Meiji emperor to annex the Hawaiian islands to be the part
> of Japan to avoid the islands being invaded by the White racists. But
> unfortunately the Meiji emperor was afraid that if Japan annexs
> Hawaiian islands, the hostility of the dumb Anglo-Saxon racist
> colonialists against the japs would increase and Japan must fight
> against the Anglo-Saxons and that was too much trouble for Japan, so he
> refused the request of King Kamehameha.
>
> Subsequently, Hawaii was invaded by the White racists and so many
> Hawaiians were butchered by the dumb brutal Anglo-Saxons.
>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 8:16 pm
From: Cindy

Don Kirkman wrote:

> There was no invasion of Hawaii, and no other Imperial Japanese activity
> in Hawaii except the events surrounding the Pearl Harbor attack (mini
> submarines, for instance) and some amount of spying--unless you count
> Midway which technically is part of the Hawaiian Islands.

There was no invasion of Hawaii, but the IJA tried to invaded Alaska ...
did you know that?

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TOPIC: WAR IS A RACKET
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/527e844bc1d753b7
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 5:33 pm
From: "Tom Donavan"

>Serwad wrote:

>YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO OR WHAT I AM YOU ARSEHOLE, NOR DO I GIVE A FLYING FUCK
>FOR YOU OR SMELLY BUTLER!

I hope the Marines that catch you have been to Camp Butler on Okinawa
like me, then we can reminess about old times on Oki while we charge
you with the treasoness crimes like your murdering friend Moussaoui is
convicted on.

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TOPIC: Oil prices race towards $70 US-Iran War Fears: BUSH'S "MISSION
ACCOMPLISHED"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/2f88cbf738e7e69a
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 8:36 pm
From: "Jennie"

Just a lie...We do NOT get oil from Iraq or Iran...Our government is
corrupted to the point that lying wide open is the norm. I am ashamed of
our current leadership in DC.

--
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1700881,00.html

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery.htm

Terrorism can never be erased with force...With force you create more
terrorist... by Jennie

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Traitors is DC. A traitor is one who betrays one's country, a cause, or a
trust, especially one who commits treason.

Bush has awakened us, the poor and middle class Americans...We are watching
and waiting to cast our votes...

The Constitution says "We the People" not "We the Special Interest Groups."

Americans Vote!

"Möbius Pretzel" <Mobius.Pretzel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144784221.996590.186440@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:
>
>> Oil prices race towards $70 US-Iran War Fears
>
>
> The real "Mission Accomplished!"
>
>
>
>
>
>> AFP - Apr 11, 2006
>> http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/060411084145.n9r18wr5.html
>>
>> Oil prices race towards 70 dollars, London Brent hits new record
>>
>> LONDON (AFP) - The price of Brent North Sea crude oil hit a new historic
>> high point of 69.38 dollars on concern that the United States might
>> launch a
>> military strike against Iran despite US comments to play this down,
>> dealers
>> said.
>>
>> The price of Brent crude for May delivery surged 63 cents to 69.38
>> dollars
>> per barrel in electronic trading.
>>
>> On Monday, London oil prices had bounded through the previous record
>> 68.89
>> dollars reached on August 30, 2005, as Hurricane Katrina had battered
>> energy
>> installations in the US Gulf Coast. The same day, New York crude reached
>> a
>> record peak of 70.85 dollars per barrel.
>>
>> Meanwhile on Tuesday, New York's main contract, light sweet crude for
>> delivery in May, was showing a gain of 35 cents to 69.09 dollars per
>> barrel
>> after reaching as high as 69.18 dollars in earlier Asian trading.
>>
>> Dealers said that the market was ignoring efforts by US President George
>> W.
>> Bush to dismiss as "wild speculation" weekend reports that Washington was
>> studying options for military strikes against Iran's uranium facilities.
>>
>> "Obviously some market participants are reacting to it and so this
>> morning
>> the market continues to be bullish about it," said Victor Shum, an
>> analyst
>> in Singapore with global energy consultancy Purvin and Gertz.
>>
>>
>>
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TOPIC: A basic history of Zionism and its relation to Judaism
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/8a1f42e0957d2abe
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 5:36 pm
From: gigo448@netscape.net

Don Ocean wrote:
> jgarbuz wrote:
>
> > Hebrew was not derived from Aramaic. And saying that HaAretz is not
> > left wing is
> > like saying the New York Times is not left wing.
>
> What language is Hebrew and Yidish derived from?

Hebrew was spoken, long before it was written. It is it's own
"tongue". It was spoken, long before thier captivity in Babylon.

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TOPIC: Loser Nation
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/0e8f1c6c727842be
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 5:37 pm
From: "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___>

"Pastor Dave" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:pqao32p6guaru46a9qbrthqv9pthrt1to4@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:10:32 -0700, "al953"
> <al953@xyz.com> spake thusly:
>
>
>>Loser Nation
>>by Greg Palast
>>www.dissidentvoice.org
>>April 11, 2006
>>
>>
>>America is a nation of losers.
>
> Upset because you couldn't find a woman?

Just admitting that the fundie wingnuts weren't wanted on the other side of
the Atlantic, either.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:00 pm
From: "al953"

>
> -- Typical rightard response! Why did you snip the rest of the article?
& take your bible thumping shit & shove it up your retarded ass!

>
> "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
> till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
>
> The Last Days were in the first century:
>
> Matthew 16:27-28
>
> 27) For the Son of man shall come in the glory
> of his Father with his angels; and then he shall
> reward every man according to his works.
> 28) Verily I say unto you, There be some standing
> here, which shall not taste of death, till they
> see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
>
> Jesus said He would return within the lifetime
> of the Apostles. we know this, because Jesus
> said SOME (at least one, not not most) would
> be alive when this happened.
>
> This is not the Transfiguration. There was no
> coming with the Father's angels and no judging
> every man according to His works and they were
> all still alive.
>
> This is not Pentecost. There was no coming
> with the Father's angels and no judging
> every man according to His works and they
> were all but one, still alive.
>
> Now see a verse that no one argues is about
> His Second Coming and see that this is what
> Jesus was referring to, in Matthew 16:27-28.
>
> "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward
> is with me, to give every man according as
> his work shall be." - Revelation 22:12
>
>

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TOPIC: 3-Bromopyruvate
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/56bd1ab50c73c34e
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 5:39 pm
From: "rst0wxyz@yahoo.com"

LifeManTalking wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I am dying of advanced liver cancer. Heard the drug 3-Bromopyruvate can
> destroy advanced cancer cells.
>
> Any idea how I could get this drug?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> regards,
> T. Fatt

Well, I talked to my son about your "advanced liver cancer". He said
"advanced liver cancer" is too general. There are too many different
types of liver cancer, and the best person to talk to is your
oncologist (your cancer specialist doctor) and he can get the
"3-Bromopyruvate" drug for you if he thinks it will do some good. He
said "3-Bromopyruvate" is still being tested with animals and there are
not too much information available on it. Since 2002, there are only 2
or 3 articles available on this drug.

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TOPIC: India Man who has a U.S. citizenship gets 5 years for trying to obtain
missiles for Taliban
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/fadb883e59f13b32
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 7:43 pm
From: "Joseph S. Powell, III"

"Yankee-Doo-Doole-Do" <sir_brian_waldman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1144751679.884924.23500@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> U.S. citizen gets 5 years for trying to obtain missiles for Taliban
>
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/WarOnTerrorism/2006/04/10/1528918-ap.html
>
> Is India and ally or an enemy of the USA ?
>

He should be hanged from the neck until dead!!!!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 5:59 pm
From: nkdatta2465@bigmailbox.net

Ilyas Ali has been described as India-born. It doesn't follow that he
was an Indian citizen when he first moved to USA. At age 58, Ilyas Ali
is not very different in age than, say, India-born Pervaiz Musharraf
who, as Pakistan's military dictator, is Pakistan's first citizen.

I suspect that Ilyas Ali was a Pakistan citizen (before becoming US
citizen) just like the other two persons convicted in the case:

"Two other men, both from Pakistan, pleaded guilty to the same charges.
Muhamed Abid Afridi, 32, also was sentenced to nearly five years in
prison. Sentencing for Syed Mustajab Shah, 57, is set for June 19"

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TOPIC: 57 Kurdish Children are still under extreme torture in Turkey
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bf648a1352635cca
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 12 2006 12:49 am
From: OHA@komsukomsuhuu.com (OHA)

Fabricated article by a terrorist message relayer posting from
Ireland, protected bu EU

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:40:39 GMT, "Ali Asker"
<pasa_asker@kurdistan.kd> wrote:

>57 Puvyqera Fgvyy Haqre Neerfg va Qvlneonxve
>
>10.04.2006 Ovnarg (Qvlneonxve) - Bs gur 91 puvyqera neerfgrq va Qvlneonxve
>ba punetrf bs "vapvgvat naq cebibxvat gur crbcyr gb eroryyvba, erfragzrag
>naq ubfgvyvgl", 34 unir orra eryrnfrq. Puvyqera evtugf betnavfngvbaf unir
>fgnegrq npgvba gb serr nyy puvyqera."
>
>Bs gur 91 puvyqera cynprq haqre neerfg ba yvsr-gvzr vzcevfbazrag punetrf bs
>"ivbyngvat gur vagrtevgl bs gur fgngr" , "vapvgvat naq cebibxvat gur crbcyr
>gb eroryyvba, erfragzrag naq ubfgvyvgl", 34 unir orra eryrnfrq nsgre na
>nccrny ol gur Qvlneonxve One Nffbpvngvba Puvyqera'f Evtugf Prager. Ohg 57
>puvyqera ner fgvyy haqre neerfg naq va cevfba.
>

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TOPIC: HOW ZIONAZIS BRAINWASH AMERICANS
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/29badc0e13e10f84
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 9:01 pm
From: "serwad"

For years - even decades - U.S. citizens have been the subject of a
political action campaign designed and executed by Israel. Currently, Israel's
campaign is part steady-as-she-goes and part improvisation to neutralize an
unexpected and - for Israel - worrying development. So far, Israel's covert
political action is succeeding hands down. Americans are gradually being
indoctrinated to believe Islamists are today's Nazis and that there is no
"Israeli lobby" in America. Simply put, Israel is conducting a brilliant
covert political action campaign in the United States, a campaign any
intelligence service in the world would rightly be proud of.

Part one of Israeli's political action consists simply of using that old
standby debate-suppressor, the four-letter word "Nazi." Newspapers in
Israel, of course, have long used the word to describe Israel's Muslim
enemies. Recently, for example, the Jerusalem Post ran an article in which
al-Qaeda is described as "yet another Nazi knockoff." This sort of language
is the stuff of Israeli journalism, and not of much concern to Americans. If
the Israeli press wants to teach their readers to underestimate the Islamist
threat, so be it.

But now the word "Nazi" is being gradually fed to Americans as a scientific
definition of our Islamist enemies. Headlines such as "Hamas Uber Alles,"
"Hitler's Heirs in Damascus," and "The Nazi Correction to Islamic Terror"
are increasingly common in U.S. media publications found in the news files
Googled daily by Americans. U.S. politicians, too, are eager to jump on the
call-them-Nazis bandwagon, with Secretary Rumsfeld recently saying that
leaving Iraq early would be like returning postwar Germany to the Nazis, and
Sen. George Allen (R-Va.) comparing the attack on the Shia shrine in Samarra
to the burning of the Reichstag by the Nazis.

The goal of using the Nazi analogy is to suppress any realistic debate about
the pluses and minuses of the U.S.-Israel relationship, and to make sure any
American raising questions about U.S. support for Israel is seen as siding
with the "Islamofascists," the heirs of Nazism. Any person who knows the
least bit about Islam - and the Israelis know a great deal - knows it is not
Nazism, yet the Internet is rife with such titles as "A Manifesto Against
Islamofascism" and "Islamofascism's Creeping Coup in Turkey." The best
capsule description of the threat posed by Islamofascists is provided by
Frank Gaffney in a recent issue of The Intelligencer, the journal of the
Association of Former Intelligence Officers. Listen to Mr. Gaffney, and you
will almost hear Muslim jackboots striking the pavement.

"We are engaged in nothing less than a War for the Free World. This is a
fight to the death with Islamofascists, Muslim extremists driven by a
totalitarian political ideology that, like Nazism and Communism before it,
is determined to destroy freedom and the people who love it."

The drive to make Islamofascist the term of choice in describing America's
Muslim enemies is meant to still U.S. debate about Israel and, indeed, to
limit questions about any aspect of U.S. foreign policy toward the Islamic
world. After all, why would anyone in their right mind care what people
think, unless they are blindly and unthinkingly opposed to Islamofascism?

The second part of any nation's covert political action plan is to be ready
to exploit or redress unexpected developments within the target society.
Last month, Professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt provided such an
environment when they published a lengthy study showing the strong influence
the Israeli lobby has on the crafting and application of U.S. foreign policy
toward the Islamic world. If American society had its head screwed on right,
the collective response of the citizenry would have been, "DUH!" -
signifying that the near-determinative nature of Israeli influence is so
clear that no academic analysis of that fact is necessary.

Instead, the reaction from American elites has been that of Captain Renault
in Casablanca - they are shocked, shocked, that anyone could even think that
there is such a thing as an Israeli lobby. The elites demand that Americans
believe there are no such things as Israel-suborned American-citizen spies
stealing U.S. national security secrets, pro-Israel U.S. media publications
routinely savaging any American questioning the perfect and eternal mesh of
U.S. and Israeli interests, and U.S. politicians from Pelosi to McCain to
DeLay to Rice groveling at AIPAC's annual conference, each willing to
compromise U.S. security if they can garner pro-Israel votes and pockets
stuffed with cash from pro-Israel contributions.

In the specific case of the Mearsheimer-Walt paper, prominent pro-Israel
Americans have been quick off the mark to limit the damage caused to Israel's
interests caused by the paper's candor and truthfulness. From Marvin Kalb to
David Gergen to Max Boot to Alan Dershowitz, these folks have brazenly
defied reality by insisting there is no "Israeli Lobby" and that Mearsheimer
and Walt are dead wrong, poor scholars, paranoid conspiracy peddlers, or
reborn Elders of Zion. Eliot Cohen's essay in the Washington Post epitomizes
the Israel-Firsters' goal of defaming Mearsheimer and Walt to convince the
citizenry that they are crazy and ranting anti-Semites.

The attacks on Walt and Mearsheimer are the stuff that the dreams of
political action planners are made of: The apparently spontaneous response
by target-country citizens voicing all-out support for the
covert-action-sponsoring country. Such a response deep-sixes any chance for
a substantive debate on the issue at hand, and submerges it in a blizzard of
hate speech directed at the authors from prominent Israel-Firsters, those
paragons of virtue who are the chief proponents of
First-Amendment-destroying laws against hate speech.

So at day's end, one can only say: Astoundingly well done, Israel, good for
you! The impact of your covert political action activities in America are
all that you could have hoped for: Truth is negated, dissent is suppressed,
and opponents are intimidated and defamed, and all this is done by prominent
U.S. citizens. The only competitor you have is the Saudi lobby, an
organization just as damaging as yours to genuine U.S. national interests, a
reality you and we would see if the bloodied but hopefully unbowed
Mearsheimer-Walt team decides to analyze the corrupt and corrupting Saudi
lobby.

Finally, I forgot to mention at the start that covert political action
campaigns are almost always directed by one nation against another nation
that it considers an enemy or whose leaders it judges to be gullible, venal,
none too bright, unreliable, or all four. That surely gives one pause for
thought, but it truly is the way the world works.

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TOPIC: SIMPLY SPEAKING IT IS A ZIONAZI PROPAGANDA
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/23618c63dbfd0027
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 9:02 pm
From: "serwad"

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TOPIC: Durante los combates en Bahía de Cochinos, donde desembarcaron un grupo
más de mil exiliados cubanos para tratar de derrocar al sátrapa de
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f45a32fe2044206a
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:03 pm
From: michaelgayoso1948@msn.com

Viejo Vizcacha wrote:
> trabaninos...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Viejo Vizcacha y que mas espera de ese ejercito de maricones, tienen
> > mas cojones las prostitutas pagadas por la FNCA llamadas damas de blanco
>
>
> Son una pandilla de pollerudos. Esperan que el tío Sam les saque las
> papas del fuego. El Perico Maricori tiene el record del libro Guinness
> por la cantidad de ejércitos de los que ha desertado.
>
> Saludos,
> VV

Biejo (con b de burro) Bizco Chocho

Estas peor que el tu amo el Coma-Andante Fifo el Loco

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TOPIC: This Land is Their Land, and We Are the Illegal Aliens
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/6f24ab2b39ff1401
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:05 pm
From: AnimasTrujano4@hotmail.com

Angry Dave ha escrito:

> Well .. they would have to give all of the Americas back.
> North, Central, and South America...
> When Mexico gives thier country back to the Indians ... I might buy in.
> Check the Mexican Constitution and their attitude towards foreigners
> and the USA looks like a bunch of wimps.

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Mexico back to Indians?... that's no problem bro, 80 or 85% of mexican
are mestizo.
About Mex constitutions... backgrounds and History are completly
different, don't you know that?... even in the F GD guides you can find
that.

Peace bro.

Drop the F weed just like I did.

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TOPIC: President Washington authorized electronic survilance! ;-) [Was: Some
say Iran's weapons come from Russia]
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/938d3d0d2a6b5e90
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:06 pm
From: "Komin"

the Chinese military is grateful to president Bush,
because president Bush has the US military bogged down in Iraq.

the US military will continue to be bogged down in Iraq for the next 10
years ,
thanks to the Iranian s.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:12 pm
From: "Komin"

the Chinese military hopes that the US military will be too busy in
Iraq for the next 3 years that the US military will be too depressed
and too pessimistic to defend Taiwan in 2008 , when Taiwan ' s
president might declare Taiwan' s Independence just before the Beijing
Olympic.

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TOPIC: ARISTOTLE: MOST HUMANS NATURAL BORN SLAVES
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/bba33877980d5f87
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 12 2006 1:08 am
From: usenet@mantra.comm993uf and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

harmony jee, you are too kind. There's a similar
saying in English: "casting pearls before swine".
Our sage-scientists, having created this axiom,
encrypted key knowledge in such a way that only
those singing Vedic-Hindu bhajans would be exposed
to it, and then would learn to decrypt it. One
note about the bhai(n)s who don't appreciate the
musical and magical music emanating from a been:
I have actually seen specially trained bhai(n)s
who swayed in a trance like cobras to been music.

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

In article <F0V_f.708$fG3.114@dukeread09>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> vah, shriman jai maharaj ji, aapne tow badee door ka
> vichar kiya, mahashay ji.
> theek he kaha; bhais ke samne kya been bajayein?
>
> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>
> > Hindus are a varn by ourselves and perhaps the
> > rest of the world, being a different varn, doesn't
> > need to be shown any sort of proof. Does the world
> > even deserve to be shown any proof?
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <YNR_f.694$fG3.614@dukeread09>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> > > if the west had had the caste system, none of this slavery stuff would
> have
> > > happened.
> > > in the west every one wants to be rich the easy way, ie by robbing
> others.
> > > caste system provides for equitable division of labor. it's just
> unfortunate
> > > that the hindus never got half a chance to prove to the world - not to
> > > themselves - their system is best, better than even democrazy. it took
> > > mahatma gandhi to raise the western consciousness, ably aided by the man
> of
> > > millinium hitler dev to now that make possible.
> > >
> > >
> > > www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
> > >
> > > > ARISTOTLE: MOST HUMANS NATURAL BORN SLAVES
> > > >
> > > > Forwarded message from Imagin8r
> > > >
> > > > [ Subject: Aristotle: Most humans natural born slaves
> > > > [ From: Imagin8r
> > > > [ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006
> > > >
> > > > Manu, eat your heart out! Western civilization
> > > > ostensibly owes a huge debt to the Greeks and Romans.
> > > > One of the greatest of Greek sages believed the most
> > > > humans should be enslaved. Should this fact be held
> > > > against Western civilization the same way that that one
> > > > passage from the Manusmriti is held against Hindu
> > > > dharma?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2127197,00.html
> > > >
> > > > Most human beings 'natural born slaves'
> > > >
> > > > By Philip Howard
> > > > The Times April 10, 2006
> > > >
> > > > In a counterintuitive paper, Malcolm Heath, of Leeds
> > > > University, defended Aristotle's politically incorrect
> > > > view that some people are natural born slaves.
> > > >
> > > > Aristotle argued that the majority of human beings could
> > > > and should be enslaved because they are naturally slaves.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Aristotelians usually cough nervously and move on past
> > > > such passages.
> > > >
> > > > Professor Heath argues that Aristotle was not saying that
> > > > natural slaves lack the distinctive human capacity for
> > > > reason. They are not subhuman. Natural slaves may be
> > > > extremely creative and intelligent. But they simply have
> > > > a defect that prevents them recognising the way to live a
> > > > good life.
> > > >
> > > > Northern Europeans are natural slaves because our climate
> > > > is too cold.
> > > >
> > > > Asiatics and Africans are natural slaves because the
> > > > climate is too hot.
> > > >
> > > > Western society today values economic prosperity and the
> > > > quest for eternal youth, rather than our intrinsic
> > > > goodness or happiness.
> > > >
> > > > We would be better off if we natural slaves put our lives
> > > > under the control of the natural, rational slave masters
> > > > - the Greeks, of course.
> > > >
> > > > End of forwarded message from Imagin8r
> > > >
> > > > Jai Maharaj
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> > > > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > > > Om Shanti
> > > >
> > > > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > > > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> > > >
> > > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > > > http://www.hindu.org
> > > > http://www.hindunet.org
> > > >
> > > > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> > > > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
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TOPIC: BEWARE OF THE ZIONAZI PROPAGANDA MACHINE
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/30a9995064f65bd0
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 9:11 pm
From: "serwad"

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TOPIC: Just who should go back home?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/1b035827b738a510
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 12 2006 1:13 am
From: "Tx Max King"

<goposter@jonjay.com> wrote in message :

> The only natural resource running out is the white traditional founder.
> We can place them in a museum, with all due respect. But I haven't
> lost hope in white America, mind you. I am sure many of them who are
> embracing the newcomers will continue the economic and cultural growth
> that the fearful ones have given up.

You are an embarrassment to Hispanics. I've read your rants
and bragging and haven't commented. But now I have no choice.
I am a Hispanic immigrant. I immigrated here when I was 4 years
old. I didn't just immigrate, I escaped a dictatorial regime.
I learned the language, I acclimated to the culture, I studied
and I succeeded. I consider myself an American. Period, no hyphen.
I am proud of my ancestry. But when I came to this country, it
was my responsibility to accept the culture and learn to live and work
within the laws and rules.

That was 45 years ago. Now I see thousands of immigrants
streaming into Texas every month. Most of them don't care
about America. They only want more money. Most of them have
no respect for America or for traditional American values. I'm not
just referring to Mexicans (my wife is a second generation Mexican
immigrant, by the way), but immigrants from all cultures. Most of
them seem to feel that Americans should adapt our ways to their
cultures. Most of them have no intention of adapting to American
values. They are rude and disrespectful and greedy like so many
others in this world. Many of them would rather steal or get
involved in criminal activities to get rich, than to work hard and
make an honest living.

I don't like to generalize and there are exceptions. But the
majority of them do feel this way. Ignorant politicians in their
quest to appease and cater to 'compassion' and minorities
pass laws that disgrace traditional America and Americans.
I was once a hippie too. And I thought that changes were
important to preserve our future. But those days are gone.
Women and minorities have opportunities here that they
do not have in any other country in the world. Now they
continue to extremes. This is why I am now an adamant
conservative.

When I hear comments like yours about the 'rich', 'white'
people, I realize how ignorant so many immigrants really
are. This country was founded by rich, white people. This
country is mostly run by rich, white people. If you cannot
accept rich, white people and learn to live with them and
respect them, then you don't deserve to live in America.

Listen to my words carefully, Ramon. And pass them on
to your Hispanic brothers around the world. My opinion is
not popular here in Texas with the huge illegal immigrant
population we have here. But I do not seek popularity.
I speak the fair truth without political philosophic
underlying intentions. Unlike you, that feels he has
to prove a philosophical political point to the gringo
and the 'white' man. Unlike you that feels that Hispanic
political power is the both the means and the end.

I will continue to fight against Amnesty and illegal immigration.
Because I see the danger to our future and the destruction
it is creating in our society. We are not Mexico or France
and we don't ever want to be. By now it should be evident,
maybe not to you though, that the solution is for Mexico to
be more like America. No matter how difficult it is for your
soicialist mind to accept this is the truth. Illegal immigration
has brought some hard workers, I can't deny that. Some of
are good people and I've experienced that too. But the fact
is that they came here illegally and they have created a
dangerous precedent for our laws, our society and our
country.

Many others are here for nothing more than to
deal drugs, steal cars or transport illegals into the country.
This is also a fact. We don't need them and we don't want
them. The only answer is to pass stricter laws so that those
that don't belong here are sent back to from where they came.
And the others that do want to accept America, do so legally,
within our rule of law. Your compadres in Mexico don't care
about America. They are mostly greedy and corrupt. They steal
from the poor and keep them poor. They do not want the poor
to succeed or compete with them. The fact is that Mexicans
in Mexico hate the poor Mexicans more than we ever could.

And as for your little gatherings in the last week or so. Understand
this and know that I know. The organizers of these little fiestas
you call protest marches are organized operatives within the
Socialist, Communist and anarchist organizations operating right here
in America because we give them the freedom and liberty
to voice their opinions no matter how contradictory to our
core values. You will not find this in any other country in the
world. Not in Mexico, not in France and certainly not in China,
North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, modern day Russia or Cuba.
In many of those countries you would be shot or imprisoned.
In others you would just disappear.

Illegal immigration taxes those that pay taxes and work hard to
make an honest living. But again I don't think you would understand
this, because you feel like so many others, that just because you
come to America you are guaranteed a nice car, a nice home,
nice clothes and to be rich like the 'rich', 'white' guy. You don't feel
there is anything wrong with an employer using cheap immigrant
labor to destroy competitors that do not employ illegals. And you
don't think that a large illegal immigrant population is just another
form of slavery. I actually feel sorry for people like you because
they will go through life confused, disillusioned and bitter with hatred.

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TOPIC: ISRAELI FASCIST MURDERERS!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/951289ee396059d1
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 9:15 pm
From: "serwad"

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TOPIC: Black's lynch mob mentality over alleged Duke assault
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ea6745f7001a01c6
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 9:15 pm
From: Voice Of Reason <>

This is starting to sound like another Tawana Brawley hoax (a young
black woman falsely claiming that a white man raped her). That case,
nearly 20 years ago, helped propel a young Brooklyn rabble-rouser (and
a former FBI "snitch") named Al Sharpton to fame, as he championed her
case.

Meanwhile, the brave Brawley fled NY when the accused man was cleared,
and went into hiding out of state; if she ever sets foot in NY she
will be arrested for pulling off that hoax.

To this very day, Sharpton refuses to apologize for role in that mess.
And that makes him a big hero in the `hood.

Now this is an excellent chance for some Democrats to make their own
"Sista Souljah" moment. In 1992, Bill Clinton was shrewd enough to
take advantage of it (and it helped get him many votes from the
middle), but alas, I doubt any Democrat today has the balls to try
this manuever again.

On 11 Apr 2006 15:34:30 -0700, "Spob"
<pongespob_paresquants@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I assume many of you caught the bit on the news about the public
>"forum" NCCU where black residents expressed outrage over the handling
>of the so-called "rape" of the black stripper.
>
>Note that the ire of these blacks is fueled by nothing more than an
>allegation. They don't seem to be concerned with anything other than
>indulging their sense of injustice.
>
>So far, what's known is that the story of this 27-year-old "student"
>appears to be coming apart at the seams. She was supposedly "gang
>raped" yet no DNA from ANY of the players has been found on her. She
>claimed she got her injuries from being beaten - video shows she was
>already banged up when she got there.
>
>Kinda curious about the background of this "student" who shows up
>highly messed up to take off her clothes for money. It sounds to me
>that these guys are mostly guilty of stupid naivete by putting
>themselves in a position to be themselves victimized by some lowlifes.
>What, did they stiff her on the tip and she got pissed?
>
>The blacks expressed indignation that she was characterized as a
>stripper. Sorry folks, that's what she was there for, not a chemistry
>study group. She was there to take off her clothes, to sell her ass in
>one way or another.
>
>These are your "average" black citizens folks. These are the ones who
>are the first to cry "police brutality" any time a cop dares arrest a
>black criminal.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:30 pm
From: Hal Henry

> Note that the ire of these blacks is fueled by nothing more than an
> allegation. They don't seem to be concerned with anything other than
> indulging their sense of injustice.

>
> These are your "average" black citizens folks. These are the ones who
> are the first to cry "police brutality" any time a cop dares arrest a
> black criminal.
>

Yours is a particularly stupid point of view, considering who's been
lynching who over the past 8-10 generations.

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TOPIC: WATCH OUT FOR JEW GOEBBELS!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b72b21b2ccaacd37
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:20 pm
From: "serwad"

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TOPIC: ISRAEL WANTS YOUR KIDS TO DIE FOR ISRAEL!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/42e5a83213afaee7
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 6:23 pm
From: "serwad"

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