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Today's topics:
* Australians top the world when it comes to crime - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c0316e20ba3f0bdc
* Journalist Jill Carroll wonders why she was arrested? Because she was a spy!
She would be in Gitmo if she was an Iraqi or Afghani. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/1d4ed07c17cc841e
* SHEEN'S CHALLENGE TO GUARDIAN - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/fae840661deb788a
* The end is near....for US occupation of Iraq? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/57f2252d27097fb3
* YA OPERAN EN LA CAPITAL MEXICANA 10 CENTROS OPERATIVOS BOLIVARIANOS - 2
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d478dd7d9985fa38
* Israel no longer a key US asset - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/942df46d70254e1c
* 500,000 immigration advocates march in Los Angelos - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a7922568c71505bc
* Islamic school's girls' basketball team seeks competion - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/81cd2d45c297e6f8
* Suchart and Yuwadee Akkavibul 'WANTED' $10,000 Reward! - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b4b8d1ea5f1e6fcd
* ISRAELI LOBBY CRUSHING DISSENT IN AMERICA - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c1f2f8c6e51cf048
* My Recent Trip to London - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a49283aa39753c71
* ZIONAZI DARLING HAS A NEW JOB! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/115aee8aef80dec0
* WORLD WAR III NEWS, SATURDAY, APRIL 1st, 2006 AD (The Year of Our Lord ;-) -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c870f3386d361d54
* En mi libro "CUBA, SOMETIMIENTO, RAZON DE ESTADO" (página 25) escribí lo
siguiente: "Es un caso curioso éste "líder" que, "participando" en el - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3f8616889c668279
* Los gobiernos norteamericanos demócratas de John F. Kennedy, Jimmy y del
amoral Bill Clinton fueron fieles cobijas y sumisos colegas de la - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e22cf6260e768b31
* Durante los combates en Bahía de Cochinos, donde desembarcaron un grupo más
de mil exiliados cubanos para tratar de derrocar al sátrapa de - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/f45a32fe2044206a
* "DUCK AND COVER" - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/224a8c471bcc05e7
* Cuando la sublevación del Comadante Hubert Matos en contra del rumbo
comunizante del gobierno del tirano Fidel Castro - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/46aedcbfbe8a8290
* Después de la huída del dictador Fulgencio Batista y la toma del poder en
Cuba por las tropas de Fidel Castro. hubo un capitán o comandante .... - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/34a006d688644d0b
* Mushroom Cloud over Las Vegas: US Plans Test - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/616491651d306f4c
* Pakistan, Saudi Arabia in secret nuke pact - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/45dc30161b341339
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TOPIC: Australians top the world when it comes to crime
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c0316e20ba3f0bdc
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 5:31 am
From: "Mohammad Kaffir"
"Neil Boss" <neilboss_boss@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:e0nir7$sd0$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>
> Mohammad Kaffir <mk@tk.com> wrote in message
> news:2sDXf.54624$F_3.10328@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> >
> >
> > I have to say your post is very crisp and well thought-out.
>
> You would think that because a pig is a god to a Muslim.
>
Relax man! Instead of attacking racists, you are being racist yourself.
Don't stereotype every Australians.
I have Australian collegues at my office.
They are as good and fun as anyone else.
>
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 1:53 pm
From: Hunter01
Mohammad Kaffir wrote:
> "Neil Boss" <neilboss_boss@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:e0nir7$sd0$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>> Mohammad Kaffir <mk@tk.com> wrote in message
>> news:2sDXf.54624$F_3.10328@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>>>
>>> I have to say your post is very crisp and well thought-out.
>> You would think that because a pig is a god to a Muslim.
>
> Relax man! Instead of attacking racists, you are being racist yourself.
> Don't stereotype every Australians.
> I have Australian collegues at my office.
> They are as good and fun as anyone else.
Ssssshhhhhhh!!!!! If you try to tell nelly that people are people,
regardless of race or religion, he'll have a logic overload and go
postal or something! If Gujarat is anything to go by that means he'll
run out and "heroically" rape, torture and murder every woman and child
he can find that is not being protected by someone that can actually
fight back!
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TOPIC: Journalist Jill Carroll wonders why she was arrested? Because she was a
spy! She would be in Gitmo if she was an Iraqi or Afghani.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/1d4ed07c17cc841e
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 1 2006 9:32 pm
From: Organfreak
On or about 1 Apr 2006 10:51:30 -0800, someone purporting to be
welovethemearnhardts@yahoo.com felt it necessary to say:
>Jill Carroll wonders why she was arrested? Well, honey,
[snip]
Crossposting fuckstain.
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TOPIC: SHEEN'S CHALLENGE TO GUARDIAN
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/fae840661deb788a
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 12:33 am
From: "serwad"
SHEEN CHALLENGES GUARDIAN
Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - FreeMarketNews.com
Charlie Sheen sent a statement to The Australian regarding a column in the
London Guardian, which was syndicated all over the British commonwealth,
slamming the actor for his declarations about the unexplained
inconsistencies in official accounts of the bombings at the World Trade
Center towers in September 2001.
According to an online news site, Sheen begins with a challenge: "I dare you
to print this email in its entirety," and goes on to decry the "cut and
paste job" he says the Guardian column did. "[This] speaks volumes about
your credibility as a major media entity," he declares.
He terms the use of personal attacks on his own checkered background, rather
than addressing the subject itself, "transparent sandbox propaganda." He
urges the Guardian to "[d]o a little research on Building Seven, [which]
lives at the epicenter of my entire debate. Prove yourself worthy of genuine
investigative journalism. Look at the video evidence. Observe the same data
I have. Submit a formal request to the Pentagon or the DOD to release video
proof that flight 77 did exactly as they claim. You will be stonewalled. You
will be dismissed unconditionally. If there is nothing to hide - why are
they hiding it?"
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TOPIC: The end is near....for US occupation of Iraq?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/57f2252d27097fb3
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 1 2006 9:33 pm
From: "Anonymous Infidel - The Koran Destroyer"
> You have an over-inflated regards for the Americans
No he is dead on, Iraq is a war of primitivity vs modernity.
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TOPIC: YA OPERAN EN LA CAPITAL MEXICANA 10 CENTROS OPERATIVOS BOLIVARIANOS
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/d478dd7d9985fa38
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 12:18 am
From: "PM"
YA OPERAN EN LA CAPITAL MEXICANA 10 CENTROS OPERATIVOS BOLIVARIANOS
Por Francisco Reséndiz - La Cronica - México D.F. (Enviado por LA NUEVA
CUBA)
Anochece en Ciudad Universitaria. Falta una semana para que inicien las
clases... pero hay mucho movimiento. En EconomÃa, FilosofÃa y Ciencias
PolÃticas grupos de estudiantes, apoyados por agentes venezolanos, se
apresuran a imprimir propaganda bolivariana pro Andrés Manuel López
Obrador
que repartirán de inmediato en pueblos y comunidades de Oaxaca, Morelos y
Guerrero.
La lluvia, extraña en febrero, y el frÃo, me hacen recordar que durante
los
últimos tres meses he participado en uno de los cÃrculos bolivarianos que
reciben apoyo económico, asesorÃa logÃstica e instrucción ideológica de
activistas capacitados por el gobierno de Venezuela: El José Revueltas.
Estos meses integré una agenda que ubica a lÃderes de los grupos
bolivarianos, sus direcciones particulares y laborales. Además, de acuerdo
con integrantes de sus propias agrupaciones e información de inteligencia
mexicana y venezolana se configuró su perfil, muchos vinculados a
expresiones del EPR y el ERPI.
La propaganda son carteles que rezan â?obolivarianos van por Andrés Manuel
López Obradorâ?; algunos volantes con una fotografÃa del tabasqueño
tomada
durante el juicio que se llevó a cabo en la Cámara de Diputados reza:
â?opor
la unidad de América Latina AMLOâ?, y unos folletos que hablan de la
necesidad de unión de los paÃses latinos proclama: â?oEl Eje Caracas-La
Habana-México con López Obradorâ?.
Los estudiantes e integrantes de organizaciones civiles reparten los
volantes, folletos, en las colonias pobres de diversas zonas
metropolitanas, principalmente la de la Cuidad de México, y en poblaciones
o comunidades pequeñas de diversos estados cuando realizan acciones
comunitarias como consultas médicas, cortes de cabello, asà como de
alfabetización.
Cuando pregunto a los estudiantes sobre la elección presidencial dicen con
desgano que López Obrador y el PRD â?oson la única forma de impedir el
expansionismo del imperio estadunidenseâ?; no se ven convencidos pero
mantienen estrechos vÃnculos con las Redes Ciudadanas que empujan la
candidatura presidencial perredista.
Supe que tenÃan acercamientos con lÃderes del PRD capitalino, pero no
alcancé a conocer sus nombres, pero los propios activistas me comentaban
que no eran bien recibidos a pesar de que daban su apoyo a López Obrador.
â?oNo nos querÃan cerca de ellos pero agradecÃan el trabajo comunitario
que
hacemos para empujar a su candidatoâ?, me dijo un dÃa uno de los lÃderes
estudiantiles.
Los grupos bolivarianos pro López Obrador se organizan en las facultades de
FilosofÃa y Letras, EconomÃa, Trabajo Social y Ciencias PolÃticas y en
los
campus Aragón, Acatlán y Cuautitlán de la UNAM, asà como en
instalaciones
de las universidades de Chapingo, de la Ciudad de México, UAM-Iztapalapa,
Benito Juárez de Oaxaca y la UAEM y en diversas casas particulares.
Ayer, al concluir este reportaje, recibà un correo electrónico a través
de
nacional@cronica.com.mx en el que se dice:
â?oSé de primera mano que al eterno sindicalista de la UAM, Edur Velasco,
los
venezolanos le pagaron boleto de avión y estancia en Caracas para que
estuviera presente en la marcha contra el gobierno mexicano (la misma a la
que asistieron, â?oa tÃtulo personalâ?, dos legisladores perredistas)â?.
En fin, el 23 de febrero, viernes, fue la última vez que asistà a una de
sus reuniones en la Facultad de FilosofÃa, habÃa 15 activistas. La
discusión, como todas, siempre desordenada, partió del análisis polÃtico
coyuntural que detonó el caso Mario MarÃn, hablaron del ataque a Lydia
Cacho y de la necesidad de impulsar un mayor apoyo a la mujer.
Entonces alguien fue al fondo del cubÃculo y tomó un ejemplar maltratado
del â?oProyecto Alternativo de Naciónâ? e iniciaron una rigurosa
comparación
con los proyectos de Felipe Calderón y de Roberto Madrazo en el sentido
estricto de igualdad de género.
Su forma de vestir igual a la de cualquier chico clasemediero de la Ciudad
de México. Usan pantalones de mezclilla y camisas de algodón o franela,
chamarras de piel o igual de mezclilla.
Sentada en una mesa del cubÃculo, Laura â?oNâ? hablaba casi a gritos,
discernÃa y los demás, algunos sentados en bancas y otros en el piso, no
hablaban de López Obrador ni de Madrazo ni de Calderón pero insistÃan en
que â?ose debe lograr la unidad latinoamericanaâ?.
Soy el más viejo de mi cÃrculo. Los primeros encuentros fueron en casas de
activistas y lÃderes que, según informes de inteligencia, están
vinculados
al EPR y las FARC-EP; luego nos reunimos en cubÃculos de cÃrculos
bolivarianos, tanto en la Facultad de FilosofÃa y Letras como en la de
Ciencias PolÃticas y Sociales.
Ese viernes acompañé a uno de los lÃderes, sólo sé que se llama
â?oFernandoâ?.
Es un chico simpático, siempre con boina, barba desarreglada, fachoso y
sucio. Usa camisas de algodón con imágenes del Che, de Cristo o de Marcos.
Esperamos a un costado de un puesto de dulces a las afueras de la Facultad
de FilosofÃa.
En un rato llega un hombre con acento sudamericano, luego Fernando me dirÃa
que es un estudiante venezolano de la Facultad de Medicina, quizá me
mintió. Se alejan un poco de mÃ. Le da un pequeño paquete forrado de
papel
periódico. Son 25 mil pesos. Un rato después el propio activista me dirÃa
que se trata de una gente de toda la confianza del ex embajador Vladimir
Villegas.
El dinero lo emplea de inmediato. No me dice nada. Vamos aprisa a Copilco y
compramos cigarros, cervezas y comida. Regresamos al cubÃculo de la
Facultad y al resto del grupo les rinde cuentas... 24 mil 500 pesos â?opara
las actividades de lo que resta de febreroâ?.
Hay otros grupos bolivarianos, con apoyo venezolano, que realizan
actividades polÃticas en oficinas ubicadas en Jalapa 213, Colonia Roma,
instalaciones del Movimiento Bolivariano de los pueblos que comparten con
organizaciones de izquierda como el Frente del Pueblo y la Unión de Vecinos
y Damnificados 19 de Septiembre.
En el parque de Santa MarÃa la Ribera se juntan los que pertenecen al
Movimiento Mexicano Juarista Bolivariano de Cuauhtémoc Amezcua Dromundo, el
cual cuenta con instalaciones en Insurgentes Sur 216, colonia Roma, que
comparte con la AC â?oSociedad Mexicana de Estudios Legislativosâ?.
Las casas de los principales lÃderes bolivarianos en México se convierten
como centros logÃsticos y se ubican principalmente en colonias de la zona
metropolitana de la Ciudad de México como Valle de Aragón, PolÃgonos II,
además de colonias céntricas como Tlatelolco, Roma, y del oriente del DF
como Iztapalapa.
Todas las direcciones están confirmadas y algunas se guardarán como medida
de seguridad.
LA AGENDA Y LOS LÃDERES.
El Movimiento Bolivariano de los Pueblos
(Movimiento de Lucha Popular), es liderado por Ãngel FermÃn GarcÃa Luna y
Margarita Irasema Villanueva Gallegos. Ã?l es empleado en el Hospital 1 de
Octubre. Mantiene un discurso radical que pugna por la instauración del
socialismo como único instrumento de cambio de poderes.
Se le vincula con Efrén Cortés Chávez y Erika Zamora Pardo, ex
integrantes
del Ejército Revolucionario del Pueblo Insurgente; además, con otros
activistas de izquierda y pro PRD. Es integrante de la Promotora por la
Unidad Nacional contra el Neoliberalismo.
Su esposa, Margarita Irasema, se desempeñaba hasta agosto del año pasado
como gestora de vivienda en Ecatepec y forma parte del Frente Sindical
Campesino, IndÃgena, Social y Popular y Movimiento Bolivariano de los
Pueblos.
Es una mujer que considera la vÃa armada como único recursos â?opara
derrocar
al imperialismo y consolidar el comunismoâ?. En Guerrero se le relaciona
con
el abogado defensor de integrantes del ERPI, Félix RodrÃguez Navarrete y
también se le relaciona con integrantes del Comité Digna Ochoa, la
Coordinadora Nacional por la Libertad de Presos PolÃticos y de Conciencia.
Otro integrante de esta organización es Alejandro de Jesús Veras Orozco,
dirigente del Frente del Pueblo e importante activista del Movimiento
Urbano Popular. Empuja en la ciudad de México al Movimiento Bolivariano de
los Pueblos.
El personaje con mayor presencia pública es Cuauhtémoc Amezcua Dromundo,
dirigente del Movimiento Mexicano Juarista Bolivariano, quien fue diputado
federal por el PPS y es presidente de la APN â?oNueva Democraciaâ?.
Impulsa el Proyecto Alternativo de Nación que promueve el Frente Sindical
Campesino, IndÃgena, Social y Popular y la Promotora por la Unidad Nacional
contra el Neoliberalismo. Es escritor, impulsor del Movimiento de
Solidaridad con Cuba, Comité Mexicano contra el ALCA, investigador de la
UAM.
Respecto a la Coordinadora Continental Bolivariana CapÃtulo México
(Núcleo
Mexicano de Apoyo a las Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de
Colombia-Ejército del Pueblo), ésta concentra su principal centro de
acción
en la UNAM, donde se relacionó con el CGH.
Los activistas Luisa Malinalli Rebollar Flores, Desireé Robledo Torrano,
Sonia Moret Ãlvarez, Arlene Serna Espadas, Fernando â?oNâ?, Edgardo
â?oNâ?,
Estela â?oNâ? y Berenice â?oNâ? se ubican como los principales promotores
de las
FARC-EP en México, participando en diversos foros sociales donde expenden
productos alusivos a las FARC-
Mantienen relación estrecha con el Movimiento Mexicano de Solidaridad con
Cuba, el Frente de Lucha Estudiantil Juan Antonio Mella y el Partido
Revolucionario de los Trabajadores. Esta agrupación tiene su domicilio en
Xola 181-A, colonia Ãlamos, inmueble propiedad del PRT, donde convergen
organizaciones como la Coordinadora Continental Bolivariana, Convergencia
Socialista y los Talleres Gráficos del FMLN.
El proyecto bolivariano y la integración del eje Caracas-la Habana-México
lo tienen en la mente� Van y ofrecen consultas médicas, enseñan a la
gente
a leer y escribir, se hacen sus amigos. Tienen claro su único objetivo y
para alcanzarlo, dicen â?ovamos a empujar a López Obradorâ?.
Las direcciones
Informes de inteligencia de México y Venezuela revelan que los centros de
reunión bolivarianos se localizan en los siguientes puntos del DF y zona
metropolitana:
w Jalapa 213, colonia Roma
w Insurgentes Sur 216
w Santa MarÃa la Ribera 27
w Xola 181-A, colonia Ãlamos
w Monterrey 15, colonia Roma
w Mina 62, colonia Barrio San Miguel, Iztapalapa
w Pejelagarto Manzana 17 lote 21, fraccionamiento PROFEOEC PolÃgono II
w Calle del Pozo 8, colonia Santa Cruz, Toluca
En Jalisco
w Cipriano Campos 1263, colonia Villas del Nilo
w Av. Constituyente 1094, Zapopan
w Av. Hidalgo 1730, Guadalajara
En Oaxaca
w En el interior del edificio de la Sección XXI del Sindicato Nacional de
Trabajadores de la Educación, sito Armenta y López 221, Centro
w Francisco Villa 207-A, colonia Reforma Agraria
Quieren en Venezuela venir como observadores
[ José Alejandro Sánchez ]
William Lara, brazo derecho del presidente de Venezuela, Hugo Chávez,
manifestó su interés de ser observador del proceso electoral mexicano para
renovar Presidente el 2 de julio próximo.
Por teléfono se le preguntaba a Lara su opinión sobre la investigación
que
demuestra que células chavistas apoyan aquà un eje Caracas-La
Habana-México, cuando expresó que les gustarÃa estar en el paÃs el dÃa
de
las elecciones.
"Nosotros apostamos a que el proceso de campaña mexicano y las elecciones
se realicen en un clima cÃvico y de paz como es caracterÃstica de la
conducta colectiva del pueblo mexicano, arraigada profundamente en la
democracia. De ninguna manera habrá injerencia de Venezuela, pero si somos
invitados como observadores ahà estaremos", dijo.
Y agregó: "Invitados como Movimiento Quinta República (partido que llevó
a
Chávez al poder) ahà estaremos. Y si no, esperaremos las elecciones por
transmisión radial y televisión".
William Lara, quien además ha sido coordinador de los CÃrculos
Bolivarianos
en Venezuela, dijo que aún no hay invitación formal pero que sà "alguna
fuerza polÃtica" los llega a invitar, responderán puntualmente .
Sobre la participación activa del ex embajador Vladimir Villegas a
reuniones que sostuvo con universitarios en distintas casas de estudios,
como la UNAM, argumentó que su correligionario se acercó a divulgar
propaganda polÃtica como una manera de dar a conocer el proyecto
venezolano.
"No se interviene en polÃtica interna. Cuando el embajador divulgó la
información no hace otra cosa que dar a conocer nuestro proyecto. Por eso
consideramos que la información publicada en Crónica corresponde a una
campaña estadunidense que busca aislar a Venezuela", aseguró.
Y señaló que el acercamiento de su partido con legisladores del PRD no
significa que Venezuela esté interesado en que una fuerza polÃtica de
izquierda asuma el poder como sucedió en Brasil, Argentina y recientemente
Bolivia, con cuyos paÃses Hugo Chávez tiene proyectos de inversión.
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COORDINADORA CONTINENTAL BOLIVARIANA CAPITULOS EN MEXICO
Guerrero
Oaxaca
Baja California
Chiapas
Chihuahua
Coahuila
Colima
Distrito Federal
Hidalgo
Puebla
Veracruz
Estado de México
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ORGANIZACIONES CIVILES FINANCIADAS POR VENEZUELA
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*Movimiento Mexicano Juarista Bolivariano
*Movimiento Bolivariano de los Pueblos
*Núcleo Mexicano de Apoyo a las FARC-EP
*Coordinadora Nacional de Trabajadores de la Educación
*Unión de Trabajadores de la Industria Petrolera
*Movimiento Sindicalismo Revolucionario
*Movimiento de Izquierda Social
*Movimiento Nacional de la Juventud Mexicana
*Centro de Estudios Sociales
*Estudiantes de la Facultad de Ciencias PolÃticas de la UNAM
*Consejo Latinoamericano de Artes Visuales
*Sociedad Mexicana de Autores de Artes Plásticas *Coordinadora Continental
Bolivariana
*Sindicato de Trabajadores Académicos de la Universidad de Guadalajara
*Asociación por la Unidad Nuestra América de México
*Movimiento Pueblo Mexicano
*Comité Amigos de Puerto Rico
*CÃrculo bolivariano Ricardo Flores Magón
*CÃrculo bolivariano José Revueltas
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GRUPOS VIOLENTOS CON VINCULOS A "CELULAS BOLIVARIANAS"
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* Ejército de Ajusticiamiento Genaro Vázquez
* Ejército Revolucionario Insurgente Popular
* Ejército Clandestino IndÃgena de Liberación Nacional
* Ejército IndÃgena Revolucionario de Liberación Nacional
* Fuerzas Armadas Clandestinas de Liberación Nacional
* Movimiento Insurgente del Sureste y el Movimiento Veracruzano de
Liberación
* Con el Ejército Popular Revolucionario y su escisión Ejército
Revolucionario del Pueblo Insurgente sólo han conseguido el apoyo de grupos
que, aunque pequeños, "tienen significativa influencia" hacia su interior.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 1 2006 10:03 pm
From: "PM"
Después de la huída del dictador Fulgencio Batista y la toma del poder
en Cuba por las tropas de Fidel Castro. hubo un capitán o comandante
(no recuerdo su nombre) el cual fué designado Presidente del Tribunal
Supremo quien relató, en un artículo en la revista Verde Olivo (si mal no
recuerdo) , órgano oficial de las fuerzas armadas castristas, como se llevó
a
cabo la toma del Cuartel militar El Uvero en la Sierra Maestra de la
Provincia
de Oriente (la primera que hacían los rebeldes). En primera línea, cerca
de la entrada del Cuartel estaba Camilo Cienfuegos al frente de un grupo de
atacantes. A un kilómetro se encontraba Raúl Castro con otros atacantes
y,
¡a dos (2) kilómetros! de la puerta de entrada al Cuartel Uvero Vds. no
se
imaginan quien se encontraba? Pues, nada más y nada menos, que el Sr.
Fidel
Castro quien luego aparecía como el héroe de la toma del Cuartel. Bien
resguardado y protegido estaba el "valiente comandante."!
--
WINSTON CHURCHILL DIJO:
El socialismo es la filosofía del fracaso, el credo a la ignorancia,
y la prédica a la envidia.
Su virtud inherente es la distribución igualitaria de la miseria.
El ejemplo mas convincente: La Cuba del 2006
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TOPIC: Israel no longer a key US asset
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/942df46d70254e1c
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 5:37 am
From: "DoD"
"Sheldon Liberman" <sheldon@liberman.com> wrote in message
news:1143955675.268591.16910@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>
> Salah Jafar wrote:
>> Fuck your Torah, it a racist document based on Zionist ideology. It is
>> not even worth my time to wipe my ass with it. It written value is equal
>> to the shit a lay.
>> SJ
>
> It's also part of Christian ideology, but I guess that noise about
> being a Christian is more lies.
If that idiot is a Christian, then a cow's ass is pork.
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TOPIC: 500,000 immigration advocates march in Los Angelos
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a7922568c71505bc
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 5:36 am
From: "Bo Raxo"
"Felix D." <#1Chekist@OGPU.org> wrote in message
news:9ZmdnedbYf03dbPZRVn-qg@comcast.com...
>
> "Bo Raxo" <forensics@earthcorp.removethistoreply.com> wrote in message
> news:9OAXf.1927$i41.1837@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >
> > "¿mÿ§t뮦@n?" <?@?.com> wrote in message
> > news:1ucq22t48ohtqnoe2hp6ngqpo13c8n3fs8@4ax.com...
> > > In talk.politics.guns "Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?" <?@?.com> wrote in message
> > > >>
> > > >> In the mean time, National Guard troops prevent clandestine border
> > > >> crossings.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >No one can do that without bankrupting the nation. Too much border.
Too
> > many
> > > >people wanting in. Tunnels under the border, planes over it.
> > >
> > > They can do it. We have the technology.
> >
> > Sure, look at how well we've secured the border of Iraq.
>
>
> Ahh, the old red herring, here, eh? Throw the lads off the scent, is that
> what you're trying to do?
>
> Please, do try to stay on topic. If you have nothing to say, admit it and
> MoveOn.
>
>
Somebody said we need to secure our 2,000 mile border with Mexico.
I pointed out we can't secure Iraq's borders, using the best our military
has to offer.
How is that not on topic? It goes to our government's ability to secure a
border: which is not very good.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 5:38 am
From: "Bo Raxo"
"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
news:4HCXf.75058$oL.66786@attbi_s71...
>
> >
> Raxo is a troll. Best to just killfile it.
I've shown Morty to be wrong so many times, he ran off like a coward and
killfiled me. That way he won't have to see it when he spouts some
ridiculous bullshit and I post facts - you know, those things from the real
world - that prove him wrong.
Another dumbfuck who can't handle an actual argument, much less come up with
a cite to support his ridiculous assertions. He thinks if he puts his head
in the sand he can ignore the responses, and desperately hopes he can
convince others to do the same.
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TOPIC: Islamic school's girls' basketball team seeks competion
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/81cd2d45c297e6f8
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 1 2006 9:38 pm
From: "Mirza Ghalib"
..on very stiff conditions. The opposing team must agree
to play without any males present, not even coaches or
spectators.
===============================================
THEY HAVE GOT GAME- AND A HIJAB
Chicago Tribune, Feb 19
"We have all learnt to accept that" - Muslim students.
Duaa Hamoud holds a basketball to her hip. She is standing in a long
blue gown in a gym at Bridgeview's Universal School. Her head is
covered in a white scarf pulled tightly around her neck. Not a wisp of
hair is showing.
Around her, other high school girls dressed in similar flowing robes
shoot a few casual baskets while they wait for practice to begin. There
are no men in the gym-no male coaches, no boys from school, no dads
or brothers in the bleachers.
So when the coach arrives and the real training starts, they can peel
off their Islamic dress, exposing their sweat pants and short-sleeved
T-shirts underneath.
"We'd run if we noticed a man peeking in the window," Hamoud, 16,
explains. "We're not allowed to be seen by guys without [Islamic
dress]. We've all learned to accept that."
But the girls can't accept that they have only been allowed to
compete against girls basketball teams from other Muslim schools. There
are only four in the Chicago area, they complain, and their competition
isn't exactly tough.
Since last year they've been beseeching Coach Farida Abusafa, 26, an
English teacher who also coaches sports, to ask public schools and
non-Muslim private schools if their girls teams would be willing to
compete against girls from the Universal School.
The problem is the schools would have to agree to bar men and boys
above the age of puberty from watching the games.
"It's not like it's a sin to play a public school," Abusafa
said. "The problem is the males coming to the game."
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TOPIC: Suchart and Yuwadee Akkavibul 'WANTED' $10,000 Reward!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/b4b8d1ea5f1e6fcd
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 31 2006 1:34 pm
From: Anonymous
Reward paid on conviction of Suchart and Yuwadee Akkavibul.
http://thailand.ahrchk.net/mainfile.php/general/29/
http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/mainfile.php/2004/886/
UPDATE (Thailand): Case of the killing of a migrant worker dragged on
by apparent delay of trial; Public prosecutor must speed up the case
UPDATE ON URGENT APPEAL UPDATE ON URGENT APPEAL UPDATE ON URGENT
APPEAL
ASIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION - URGENT APPEALS PROGRAMME
Update on Urgent Appeal
10 December 2004
[RE: UA-91-2004: THAILAND: Transparency in trial of the killers of a
migrant worker demanded on 23 July 2004]
UP-80-2004: THAILAND: Case of the killing of a migrant worker dragged
on by apparent delay of trial; Public prosecutor must speed up the
case
THAILAND: Impunity; violence against women; rule of law
Dear friends,
The Asian Human Rights Commission is seriously concerned by the
apparent delay of a trial of Ma Suu, a Burmese migrant worker who died
after being beaten and set on fire by her employers, Suchart and
Yuwadee Akkavibul in July 2002. The accused Thai airforce officer and
his wife had escaped justice for two years, because of the officer's
influence and position of authority. (See further: UA-91-2004)
According to the information we have received, hearings were held to
take evidence two times on July 26 and August 4 2004. After hearing a
number of witnesses and obtaining strong evidence, the public
prosecutor charged the accused, Suchart and Yuwadee, with murder,
confinement and harbouring an illegal alien, and the case went to the
full court on November 1, 2004 (Black No. 1089/2547 at Uthaithanee
Provincial Court).
However, the court delayed the trial by setting the next hearing in
January 2006 saying that the court needed to handle pending cases
before new ones, under a new procedure. Local human rights groups say
that some new cases will be delayed for about three or four years
under these circumstances. Ma Suu's lawyer worries that the case will
be weakened by this delay as it is not certain that witnesses will be
available at the convenience of the court over a year from now.
The AHRC calls for your urgent intervention into this matter. Please
send a letter to Mr Kampree Kaocharern, the Attorney General of
Thailand, and urge him to take prompt steps to speed up the case,
considering the brutality and urgency and the fact that the case has
already been considerably delayed before the accused is an airforce
officer. Please also urge him to take evidence from witnesses prior to
the next hearing in 2006 in order to prevent damage to the prosecution
case.
Urgent Appeals Desk
Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC)
UPDATED INFORMATION:
An 18-year-old Burmese migrant worker, Ma Suu, was brutally murdered
by her employees, Suchart Akkavibul and his wife Yuwadee, who set her
on fire alleging theft in Lop Buri Province, Thailand, in early July
2002. Two years after the incident on June 25, 2004, Suchart and his
wife finally appeared before the Uthaithanee Provincial Court.
However, they were given bail on the grounds that Suchart is a state
officer, although the prosecutor opposed bail. Suchart Akkavibul is a
special group commander in the Royal Thai Airforce.
The public prosecutor then applied to the court in order to take
testimony from the witnesses before the entry of the charge in the
court under Section 237 of the Criminal Procedure Code B.E.2477
[1928]. According to Section 237, when there are reasonable grounds to
believe that it is difficult for the witness to give testimony in the
future, the public prosecutor can apply motion to the court to take
his testimony promptly before the entry of the charge in the court.
The court received this application and hearings were held two times
on July 26 and August 4, 2004. Five Burmese workers who were employed
by Suchart gave their testimony at the hearings. Their names were
recorded as Mr Janai, Mr Chid, Mr Chai, Mr Nai and Mr Sang. At the
hearings, they testified that they saw that Ma Suu was severely beaten
by the employers. Some of them also testified that they saw her burn
injuries after the incident. Another Thai employer named Samrueng
Ponnikorn, who had been involved in the incident, also testified
against the two accused with the agreement that he would be escape
from prosecution. His elder brother, Kamron Ponnikorn has also already
agreed to testify in next hearing on the same condition.
Finally, the Public Prosecutor charged Suchart and his wife with
murder, confinement and harbouring an illegal alien under Sections 289
and 310 of the Penal Code of Thailand and Section 64 of the
Immigration Act B.E.2522 [1979]. The first hearing of the case was
held at Uthaithanee Provincial Court on November 1. Although the
initial progress looked good, the court set the next hearing for
January 2006. As a new hearing system was enforced a year ago, the
court needs time to handle pending cases filed in the old hearing
system prior to hearing new cases. However, local human rights groups
argue that enforcing the new hearing system is being used as an excuse
to drag on trial in some cases, and this case must be heard without
further delay due to its brutality and urgency. The accused Thai
airforce officer and his wife had already escaped justice for two
years, apparently because of the officer's influence and position of
authority.
A journalist working for the Voice of America is also scheduled to
give a statement in the next hearing. He is the person who recorded Ma
Suu's statement about the incident and took her photos when he visited
her at the hospital in July 2004.
Ma Suu's lawyer worries that the delay will weaken the case and the
accused will enjoy impunity in the end, as most of these witnesses may
not be expected to be available at the convenience of the court over a
year from now. The lawyer is also concerned that even though some
witnesses may appear in the court in 2006, the evidence of the case
will be destroyed because the accused is an influential state officer.
BREIF REMINDER OF THE CASE:
Ma Suu was brutally murdered by her employers, Suchart and Yuwadee
Akkavibul, who set her on fire alleging theft in Lop Buri Province,
Thailand, in early July 2002. Although Ma Suu sustained fatal burn
injuries, her employers abandoned her in a room without treatment or
food for three days and then dumped her by a roadside. On the early
morning of July 7, 2002, a man found Ma Suu on the road and sent her
to a hospital in town. However, she died nine days later, after
implicating the accused three persons;, Suchart his wife and Kamron
Ponnikorn.
SUGGESTED ACTION:
Please send a letter to the Attorney General of Thailand and urge him
to take prompt steps to speed up the case. Please also urge the
Attorney General to file the motion to the Court under Section 237 of
the Criminal Procedure Code B.E.2477 [1928], and take evidences from
the witnesses concerned prior to the next hearing in 2006 in order to
prevent loss of evidence.
Sample letter:
Dear Mr Kampree,
THAILAND: Case of the killing of a migrant worker dragged on by
apparent delay of trial; Public prosecutor must speed up the case;
(Black No. 1089/2547 at Uthaithanee Provincial Court)
Name of Victim: Ma Suu, 18, a Burmese migrant worker
The Accused:
1) Suchart Akkavibul, a special group commander in the Royal Thai
Airforce
2) Yuwadee Akkavibul, wife of Suchart Akkavibul
Case Number: Black Number 1089/2547 at Uthaithanee Province Court
It is with grave concern that I write to you regarding the apparent
delay of a trial of Ma Suu, a Burmese migrant worker brutally murdered
by her employers, Suchart and Yuwadee Akkavibul in July 2002.
According to the information I have received, at the first case
hearing on 1 November 2004, the Uthaithanee Provincial Court delayed
the trial by setting the next hearing for January 2006 despite the
presence of a number of witnesses and strong evidence ensured through
preliminary hearings.
This delay will weaken the case, as the witnesses concerned may not be
expected to be available at the convenience of the court over a year
from now. I am also concerned that the case evidence may be harmed due
to the delay by giving enough time and chance to the accused to
manipulate it. I would like to remind you that one of the accused,
Suchart Akkavibul, is an influential officer in the Royal Thai
Airforce, and he and his wife have so far escaped justice for two
years because of this.
I therefore urge you to take prompt action to speed up the case in
court. I also urge you to take appropriate steps to take evidence from
the witnesses concerned, with the permission of the court, prior to
the next hearing in 2006, in order to prevent loss of evidence.
Yours truly,
SEND A LETTER TO:
Mr Kampree Kaocharern
Attorney General
Office of the Attorney General
Lukmuang Building
Nahuppei Road
Prabraromrachawang, Pranakorn
THAILAND
Fax: +66 2 224 1448 / 221 0858
SEND A COPY OF THE LETTER TO:
1. Mr Pongthep Thepkanjana
Minister of Justice
Office of the Ministry of Justice
Ministry of Justice Building
22nd Floor
Chaeng Wattana Road
Pakkred, Nonthaburi
Bangkok 11120
THAILAND
Tel: +66 2 502 6776/ 8223
Fax: +66 2 502 6699/ 6734/ 6884
2. Ms Yakin Erturk
Special Rapporteur on Violence against Women
OHCHR-UNOG
Palais Wilson, 8-14 Avenue de la Paix
1211 Geneva 10
SWITZERLAND
Fax: +41 22 917 9022
3. Ms Gabriela Rodr?uez Pizarro
Special Rapporteur on the human rights of migrants
Att: Ms. Veronica Birga
Room: 3-040
8-14 Avenue de la Paix
1211 Geneva 10
Switzerland
Tel: +41 22 917 9336
Fax: +41 22 917 9006
E-mail: urgent-action@ohchr.org (please include in the subject box:
Special Rapporteur HR Migrants)
Thank you.
Urgent Appeals Programme
Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC)
-=-
This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.
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TOPIC: ISRAELI LOBBY CRUSHING DISSENT IN AMERICA
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c1f2f8c6e51cf048
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 12:41 am
From: "serwad"
Keeping It Quiet: The Israel Lobby's Crushing of Dissent
by Charley Reese
The first weapon of choice for the Israeli lobby when someone with prestige
publishes a soundly researched paper or book critical of Israel or its
powerful lobby is silence. If it's a book, it rarely gets reviewed; its
author doesn't get interviewed. If it's a paper, there are no news stories
in the big corporate press, no interviews with the authors, no television
appearances.
For the average American who depends on the press to tell him what's going
on, it's as if the criticism never existed. The second weapon is, of course,
to launch vicious personal attacks.
Both methods are being used against an astounding paper titled "The Israel
Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy." It was written by two renowned academics,
John J. Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen M. Walt of the
John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University.
So far as I've been able to determine with the help of Google, while the
paper and talk about it are all over the Internet, they are missing from the
big corporate press as of this writing. It was published in the London
Review of Books, and you can read it or download an edited version at
www.lrb.co.uk. There was one news story about it in the Christian Science
Monitor and an attack on it by David Gergen in U.S. News & World Report.
Gergen is editor at large of the magazine, which is owned by an ardent
Zionist, Mortimer Zuckerman. Gergen is a professional spinmeister who has
always served the people who have the butter for his bread.
The essence of the paper, which is thoroughly footnoted, is that Israel's
lobby has so skewed American foreign policy in the Middle East that the U.S.
places the security of Israel ahead of security for the United States.
"This situation has no equal in American history," the authors state.
The Anti-Defamation League was quoted in a Jewish publication as saying that
if the paper gained the attention of the mainstream media, then a "more
vigorous attack" would be launched. So far, it has not, though in the
Christian Science Monitor story one of the attack dogs of the Israel lobby
branded these two esteemed academics from prestigious universities as
"incompetents."
This paper isn't the first to criticize the Israeli lobby. There have been
lots of papers and books written by distinguished individuals, none of which
you've probably ever heard of. They Dare to Speak Out, by former Rep. Paul
Findley, and The Passionate Attachment, by George W. Ball, one of America's
most distinguished diplomats, are two that come to mind. It was the late
Sen. William J. Fulbright who first called Congress "Israeli-occupied
territory."
What the authors of the current paper hope to do is start a sensible public
debate about the Israeli lobby and America's policy in the Middle East. Of
course, avoiding an honest debate is one of the primary objectives of the
lobby. That's why it uses silence and, if that doesn't work, vicious
personal attacks. It has certainly buffaloed Congress and most of America's
news media.
Another author given the silent treatment as well as vicious personal
attacks is Norman Finkelstein, a professor at DePaul University. He's
written three outstanding books you've probably not heard of: The Holocaust
Industry, Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict, and his
latest, which got not a line of review, Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of
Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History. Finkelstein, by the way, is Jewish
and the son of Holocaust survivors.
This is a most serious issue and deserves an honest public debate. Whether
you agree with any of the above authors and academics, you should read what
they have to say and not be deterred by cheap ad hominem attacks.
You've heard the same message from me, of course, but I'm only a country boy
turned journalist with no fancy degrees. If you're impressed with
credentials, Finkelstein, Findley, Walt, Mearsheimer and Ball have them up
to their armpits.
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TOPIC: My Recent Trip to London
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/a49283aa39753c71
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 1 2006 9:47 pm
From: "Max Muir"
Nusrat wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2006 00:04:32 -0800, "Max Muir"
> <orb_at_cts_dot_com@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Neil Boss wrote:
> >> It would be good if you set an example and moved back to the mother or
> >> father country back in Europe.
> >
> >When are you moving back to Pakistan?
>
> Moving back to Pakistan?
Yes.
> Most would consider this a sentence of death.
Is the involuntary repatriation of the white populations of
NZ, Australia, the USA, etc., likely to cause a few deaths?
> What has this poor man ever done for you to wish him such a fate.
Supported the Real IRA.
Neil Ozman/Sunil Sethi wrote in Msg-ID
= <9aca0k$lv...@merki.connect.com.au>
=
= "Thank God we have the REAL IRA, still fighting for freedom."
=
=
= Neil Ozman/Sunil Sethis wrote in Msg-ID
= <9ah9fs$6p...@merki.connect.com.au>
=
=[Of the Real IRA] " They in fact are hero's and are fighting
=for freedom from British SCUM! Who would believe a Brit. in
=any case, lies is 2nd nature to you bastards."
=
=
= Message-ID: <9ah92a$6c...@merki.connect.com.au>
= "This pomie bastard will never answer for the scum of the 2nd of
= world
= after the Muslims for their inhumane treatment of others. Bastard
= POMIE
= do not try to attribute other peoples remarks to me, I am reposting
= my
= remarks. I do support the REAL IRA, they like others want to get
= rid
= of
= British scum from their country"
==
Subject: Re: British govt tolerates incitement to kill Jews
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:10:57 +1100
Organization: Customer of Connect.com.au Pty. Ltd.
Message-ID: <a3td0b$5...@merki.connect.com.au>
=Never heard of British Jews wanting to harm any Muslim in England!
=Typically the Brits hide behind such stupid arguments to hide there
=love of Muslim Terrorism. Hopefully they will be paid a visit by
=Osma's men.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/gcuy5
==
Neil rejoices in Islamic violence in Britain:
Subject: Re: Violent Pakistani/Muslim crowds in England
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:10:09 +1000
Organization: Customer of Connect.com.au Pty. Ltd.
Message-ID: <9hga20$go...@merki.connect.com.au>
= Yeap! They will try to take away the focus from the Muslims. After
= all the
= UK has been a fertile ground to recruite Muslim Terrorist for the
= terrorism
= in India and the Brits turned a blind eye to this for years! Now they
= have
= Pakistani terrorism in their homeland .......... great to see!
Context: http://tinyurl.com/j8odx
> BTW, I couldn't help but notice your post about Islam where you
> finally stood up against this perversion, a far cry from what you
> believed back in 1989.
Yes, I used to like Hindus too.
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TOPIC: ZIONAZI DARLING HAS A NEW JOB!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/115aee8aef80dec0
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 12:48 am
From: "serwad"
Ex-Yukos boss gets new job in penal colony
12:19 | 01/ 04/ 2006
Print version
NOVOSIBIRSK, April 1 (RIA Novosti, Maxim Koshmarchuk) - Former Yukos boss
Mikhail Khodorkovsky is currently working as a packer at a sewing shop in a
penal colony in East Siberia, the jailed oligarch's lawyer said Saturday.
Natalia Terekhova said his previous job had been a seamstress' apprentice.
She said Khodorkovsky, serving an eight-year sentence for fraud and tax
evasion, had to continue working at the sewing shop to avoid punishment.
Terekhova added that Khodorkovsky and his lawyers had repeatedly asked the
colony's authorities to allow him to do academic work but their requests had
not been granted.
Khodorkovsky and his business partner Platon Lebedev were found guilty by a
Moscow court in May 2005 and sentenced to nine years in prison. On September
22, the Moscow City Court reduced their terms to eight years.
Khodorkovsky is serving his sentence in a penal colony in the town of
Krasnokamensk in the Chita Region, while Lebedev is at a colony in the
Arctic region of Yamalo-Nenets.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060401/45067027.html
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TOPIC: WORLD WAR III NEWS, SATURDAY, APRIL 1st, 2006 AD (The Year of Our Lord ;
-)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/c870f3386d361d54
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 12:47 am
From: "K Miller"
Doubt they make it that far !!!
Just A DEEP Thought.
;-)
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:1143951976.979931.267230@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Well, there will be tit for tat for a while, then suddenly, like a
> thief in the night, one side will tip things totally over the
> edge......
>
> One thing's for sure -- this *iz* the year !
>
> They can only delay it -- not prevent it from happening !
>
> HOOROO
>
> UNCLE WALLY
>
> (ps -- BTW -- The Iranians refer to the week long operation az
> "Operation Holy Prophet" It will conclude on Thursday, April 6h, 2006
>
> http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0603318166144858.htm
>
> Wargame
> A joint maritime wargame, dubbed as Holy Prophet (PBUH), started here
> Friday in the Persian Gulf waters.
>
> Combatants from the navy and airforce of the Islamic Republic Army and
> police, missile units of the air force and Basij (voluntary) forces
> took part in the joint wargame.
>
> Some 17,000 of combatants have taken part in the wargame, spokesman of
> the wargame Vice-Rear Admiral Mohammad Ibrahimi Dehghani said on
> Friday.
>
> Over 1,500 gunboats along with all types of fighters, bombers and
> choppers have taken part in the wargame, he pointed out.
>
> One unit of Shahab 2 missile is to be launched to resemble peace and
> friendship among littoral states of the Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman,
> he said.
>
> During the wargame various anti-offensive operations,
> telecommunications, satellites, reconnaissance patrols and electronic
> systems are to be conducted against the hypothetical enemies.
>
> The wargame would be concluded on April 6.
>
> ---0---
>
>
>
>
> ---0---
>
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TOPIC: En mi libro "CUBA, SOMETIMIENTO, RAZON DE ESTADO" (página 25) escribí
lo siguiente: "Es un caso curioso éste "líder" que, "participando" en el
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/3f8616889c668279
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 12:53 am
From: "PM"
En mi libro "CUBA, SOMETIMIENTO, RAZON DE ESTADO" (página 25) escribí
lo siguiente: "Es un caso curioso éste "líder" que, "participando" en el
ataque
al Cuartel Moncada, siendo prisionero del dictador Fulgencio Batista,
perseguido por la policía mexicana, perseguido por las tropas
batistianas
después del desembargo del Granma, "luchando" por dos años en las lomas
orientales y los supuestos 5O atentados de la CIA, haya podido
sobrevivir
sin ningún rasguño y ningún pelo le fué roza
do. Sin embargo, hombres tan bien guardados como el Presidente de los
Estados Unidos Ronald Reagan y el Papa Juan Pablo II, llevan en sus
cuerpos
los sellos reales de las heridas sufridas por sendos atentados."
La tiranía de Fidel Castro , durante todo su nefasto gobierno y hasta
l990,
ha sido protegida, primero, por la antigua Unión Soviética a cuyos
gobernantes se les plegó a cambio de chuparles toda la sangre que pudo
para
poder sobrevivir;a los países europeos, especialmente España, que con
sus
inversiones marrulleras ha permitido que el tirano pudiera subsistir a
cambio de soportar que este les mancillara, en toda ocasión, la
supuesta
hidalguia española; algunos gobiernos latinoamericanos que invirtieron
en
Cuba para luego recibir , en compensación, el desprecio del tirano;
y,desafortunadamente, muchos cubanos que se marcharon de Cuba, con un
objetivo puramente económico, son otro de los elementos que ayudan a
sobrevivir la tiranía castrista con sus visitas a la Isla y las remesas
de
dinero a Cuba.
Pese a todo el andamiaje proteccionista que ha tenido siempre el tirano
Fidel Castro él, también, tiene su policía cerebral pues vive en
constante
miedo a que le hagan atentados (por eso vive obsesionado con Posada
Carriles), desconfía de todo el Mundo (razón por la que mandó a fusilar
a
Arnaldo Ochoa y otros que anteriormente protegían al tirano). Como
decía el
disidente cubano mencionado al principio, el sátrapa de Fidel Castro NO
VIVE
pues su generalizado temor le impide hacerlo.
Firmado: IGNACIO ALVAREZ
--
WINSTON CHURCHILL DIJO:
El socialismo es la filosofía del fracaso, el credo a la ignorancia,
y la prédica a la envidia.
Su virtud inherente es la distribución igualitaria de la miseria.
El ejemplo mas convincente: La Cuba del 2006
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TOPIC: Los gobiernos norteamericanos demócratas de John F. Kennedy, Jimmy y
del amoral Bill Clinton fueron fieles cobijas y sumisos colegas de la
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e22cf6260e768b31
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 12:55 am
From: "PM"
Los gobiernos norteamericanos demócratas de John F. Kennedy, Jimmy
Carter y del amoral Bill Clinton fueron fieles cobijas y sumisos colegas de
la
cobardía del tirano al aceptarle crisis serias de relaciones
internacionales
cuando la Crisis de Octubre y las salidas masivas de exiliados cubanos.
Sin
embargo, el tirano Fidel Castro no tuvo el valor de enfrentarle estas
situaciones a los gobiernos norteamericanos republicanos de Ronald
Reagan y
George W. Bush, Sr. Bien sabe el sátrapa de que palo se rasca su
cobardía.
--
WINSTON CHURCHILL DIJO:
El socialismo es la filosofía del fracaso, el credo a la ignorancia,
y la prédica a la envidia.
Su virtud inherente es la distribución igualitaria de la miseria.
El ejemplo mas convincente: La Cuba del 2006
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TOPIC: Durante los combates en Bahía de Cochinos, donde desembarcaron un grupo
más de mil exiliados cubanos para tratar de derrocar al sátrapa de
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 12:56 am
From: "PM"
Durante los combates en Bahía de Cochinos, donde desembarcaron un grupo
de
más de mil exiliados cubanos para tratar de derrocar al sátrapa de
Fidel
Castro, la persona que desde el comienzo estaba al frente de las
fuerzas
castristas fué el traidor gallego Fernández. Cuando debido a la
traición del
gobierno norteamericano del presidente John F. Kennedy los exiliados se
quedaron sin repuestos ni suministros para seguir peleando tuvieron que
sucumbir ante la enorme fuerza de armas y hombres que tenían los
castristas.
Las batallas duraron por tres días y el tirano Fidel Castro no se
apareció
sino al final, con fotógrafo y todo, para comenzar el show del triunfo.
Bien
se cobija el comandante en miedo detrás de quienes exponen las vidas
por él.
--
WINSTON CHURCHILL DIJO:
El socialismo es la filosofía del fracaso, el credo a la ignorancia,
y la prédica a la envidia.
Su virtud inherente es la distribución igualitaria de la miseria.
El ejemplo mas convincente: La Cuba del 2006
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 1 2006 10:22 pm
From: "Viejo Vizcacha"
PM wrote:
> Durante los combates en Bahía de Cochinos, donde desembarcaron un grupo
> de más de mil exiliados cubanos para tratar de derrocar al sátrapa de
> Fidel Castro, la persona que desde el comienzo estaba al frente de las
> fuerzas castristas fué el traidor gallego Fernández. Cuando debido a la
> traición del gobierno norteamericano del presidente John F. Kennedy
¿La traición? Es que ustedes, manga de mamones, no son capaces
siquiera de pelear por ustedes mismos con las armas que les da la CIA.
Ustedes quieren que los gringos hagan la pelea por ustedes.
¡Que buenos pendejos!
VV
> los exiliados se
> quedaron sin repuestos ni suministros para seguir peleando tuvieron que
> sucumbir ante la enorme fuerza de armas y hombres que tenían los
> castristas.
> Las batallas duraron por tres días y el tirano Fidel Castro no se
> apareció
> sino al final, con fotógrafo y todo, para comenzar el show del triunfo.
> Bien
> se cobija el comandante en miedo detrás de quienes exponen las vidas
> por él.
>
>
> --
> WINSTON CHURCHILL DIJO:
> El socialismo es la filosofía del fracaso, el credo a la ignorancia,
> y la prédica a la envidia.
> Su virtud inherente es la distribución igualitaria de la miseria.
> El ejemplo mas convincente: La Cuba del 2006
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TOPIC: "DUCK AND COVER"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/224a8c471bcc05e7
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 1:12 am
From: "serwad"
BAGHDAD: The pavements outside the American embassy here are peppered with
odd concrete structures. They look like oversized kennels, about four feet
high and six feet long, with a low wall at each end. Painted on them, large
letters explain their purpose - duck and cover.
This is deep inside the well-guarded Green Zone, but if mortar rounds start
to fall as you walk or drive by, these pygmy bunkers are where you and up to
10 people can squeeze in and crouch until the coast is clear. Like the
iconic image of the last helicopter leaving the roof of the US embassy in
Saigon in 1975 with terrified people struggling to clamber aboard, these
ugly shelters may eventually achieve similar symbolic status.
For Iraqis in Baghdad, duck and cover is already a metaphor for daily life.
On each of the seven visits I have made here since Saddam Hussein was
toppled, security conditions have worsened. The downward slide since my
previous trip for the December elections seems particularly steep.
Shops close their metal shutters and streets start emptying at 4pm as people
flee home well before the curfew. Many Baghdadis rarely venture out except
to the corner store. Those who drive to work vary their routes. A doctor who
uses taxis to get to her hospital says she tells the driver she's a patient,
"since it makes kidnapping a bit less likely".
Even shopping has become risky. Eight people at an electrical-appliance
store in the middle-class suburb of Mansour were lined up against a wall and
shot dead this week by masked gunmen. Two money-exchange dealers and three
other shops were also attacked by armed raiders in Baghdad. Whether the
motives are criminal or political, the result is terror and chaos.
Iraqis who work for the government or have jobs in the Green Zone are
especially vulnerable.
Soldiers in the national army and policemen usually go home in civilian
clothes. Some dare not tell their families, let alone their neighbours, what
their jobs are. Throughout Iraq policemen are dying at a rate of 150 a
month, yet new recruits never stop coming forward, attracted by the pay in a
rock-bottom economy.
Senior civil servants are key targets. Inspector-generals have the task of
auditing ministries for corruption and other abuses. Two of the 31 have been
assassinated, and at a press conference on Tuesday the two who came declined
to be filmed. The UN mission is back in Baghdad, working on human-rights,
constitutional-reform and rule-of-law issues, but it now shelters in the
Green Zone after the catastrophic suicide bombing of its old headquarters in
2003. As a result, contacts with civil society are more difficult, and the
UN is planning to build a video centre in town so that Iraqis can hold
conference calls with officials rather than take the risk of walking into
the Green Zone.
While the violence grows, the political deterioration over the past three
months is also remarkable. Iraq's elected leaders have failed to agree on
who should be the country's next prime minister and president, leaving a
vacuum of authority that is making Iraqis increasingly cynical about
democracy and eager for a strong hand at the top.
Relations between Iraq's Shia community and the Americans are at their
lowest point since the fall of Saddam Hussein. The group that stood to gain
most from his departure is turning on the US. Leaders of three rival Shia
factions united this week to condemn an attack on a mosque complex by Iraqi
troops with US support, in which at least 20 people died. The US military
claims the raid targeted militias and hostage-takers, but its explanations
came late.
Denouncing the action as a slaughter of innocent worshippers, senior Iraqis
had already taken public positions from which they could not easily retreat.
Shia leaders feel the US is undermining their election victory by
interfering in the choice of prime minister. Before the December elections,
US and British officials were giving firm hints that they hoped Ibrahim
Jaafari would be replaced by another Shia, Adel Abdel Mahdi, or if the
secular parties did well, by the former prime minister Ayad Allawi.
Recently, US diplomats have been careful not to express any choices, and
there seems to be no truth in claims by Shia politicians this week that Bush
sent a message to the leader of the Shia bloc via the US ambassador last
Saturday saying he did not want Jaafari to be prime minister. US diplomats
believe the story is being put out by Jaafari's rivals, who dare not
confront him personally but prefer to blame the Americans for allegedly
exerting pressure while privately hoping the said pressure succeeds.
When these games are over, and a new government is finally formed, the real
difficulties will begin. For the new parliament to reach agreement and pass
legislation on how to divide oil revenues and what power to allow the
regions will be even harder than choosing a prime minister.
Confronting the militias and re-establishing order are titanic challenges.
And all this will have to be done in the blinding heat of a summer in which
people only have six hours of power to run their fans.
There is some comfort for Bush. Iraqi troops are gradually taking the lead
in combined operations. This switch means that US deaths are down. Only 29
American soldiers died in March, the second-lowest monthly total since the
occupation began.
On Wednesday the US president proudly proclaimed: "Despite massive
provocations, Iraq has not descended into civil war, most Iraqis have not
turned to violence and the Iraqi security forces have not broken up into
sectarian groups waging war against each other." Condoleezza Rice and Jack
Straw will no doubt make similar points at their joint appearance in
Blackburn on Friday. When progress is defined in negatives, you have a
measure of how bad the situation is. The good news is only that things are
not worse.-Dawn/The Guardian News Service
http://www.dawn.com/2006/04/01/int9.htm
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TOPIC: Cuando la sublevación del Comadante Hubert Matos en contra del rumbo
comunizante del gobierno del tirano Fidel Castro
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 12:59 am
From: "PM"
Cuando la sublevación del Comadante Hubert Matos en contra del rumbo
comunizante del gobierno del tirano Fidel Castro, éste mandó al
Comandante
Camilo Cienfuegos a controlar la situación, lo que Camilo logró y, como
premio, lo asesinaron los hermanos Fidel y Raúl Castro. El tirano se
robó la
gloria de Camilo apareciendo en escena cuando toda estaba bajo control.
Otra
cobardía y otro cobijarse para que lo salvaran y una bajeza y traición
descomunal al mandar a matar a Camilo Cienfuegos.
--
WINSTON CHURCHILL DIJO:
El socialismo es la filosofía del fracaso, el credo a la ignorancia,
y la prédica a la envidia.
Su virtud inherente es la distribución igualitaria de la miseria.
El ejemplo mas convincente: La Cuba del 2006
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TOPIC: Después de la huída del dictador Fulgencio Batista y la toma del poder
en Cuba por las tropas de Fidel Castro. hubo un capitán o comandante ....
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 1:02 am
From: "PM"
Después de la huída del dictador Fulgencio Batista y la toma del poder
en Cuba por las tropas de Fidel Castro. hubo un capitán o comandante (no
recuerdo su nombre) el cual fué designado Presidente del Tribunal
Supremo quien relató, en un artículo en la revista Verde Olivo (si mal no
recuerdo) , órgano oficial de las fuerzas armadas castristas, como se llevó
a
cabo la toma del Cuartel militar El Uvero en la Sierra Maestra de la
Provincia
de Oriente (la primera que hacían los rebeldes). En primera línea, cerca
de la entrada del Cuartel estaba Camilo Cienfuegos al frente de un grupo de
atacantes. A un kilómetro se encontraba Raúl Castro con otros atacantes
y,
¡a dos (2) kilómetros! de la puerta de entrada al Cuartel Uvero Vds. no
se
imaginan quien se encontraba? Pues, nada más y nada menos, que el Sr.
Fidel
Castro quien luego aparecía como el héroe de la toma del Cuartel. Bien
resguardado y protegido estaba el "valiente comandante."!
--
www.therealcuba.com
http://www.cubafotos.net/cubafotos1.htm
Noticuba Internacional
www.noticubainternacional.com
http://www.cubafotos.net/cubafotos1.htm
http://www.wisc.edu/arth/ah349/20c_01.html
http://www.chileblog.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=listarticles&secid=15
http://argentina.indymedia.org/news/2005/12/361336.php
http://www.juanperez.com/comerciales/tv.html
http://www.amigospais-guaracabuya.org
Sobre el ASESINO che:
http://members.aol.com/Guanabacoa/che.html
http://www.therealcuba.com/MurderedbyChe.htm
http://ernesto-el-che-guevara.piranho.de/
http://www.martinoticias.com/media/audio/M-001_051004.wma
http://www.martinoticias.com/MMtv.asp
Corrupcion_en_Cuba
http://www.cadal.org/libros/pdf/Corrupcion_en_Cuba.pdf
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TOPIC: Mushroom Cloud over Las Vegas: US Plans Test
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/616491651d306f4c
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Date: Sun, Apr 2 2006 6:21 am
From: "SothernAhia"
"steve gallacci" <bevnsag@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:442E162E.29F8C78F@comcast.net...
>
>
>
> That's just stupid, considering the hundreds (something like 600+) of
> previous nuclear detonations that didn't create any major earthquakes on
> the west coast. You've been watching too much really bad Sci-Fi on TV.
So you think 600+ nuke tests have not had any geophysical effects in the
proximity of the San Andreas fault?
How man of the tests have been atmospheric?
How many of the tests have been underground?
How many tests have had the subterrainian downforce of the proposed new
technology that they may or may not be testing, according to the originator
of this thread?
When it comes to screwing around with forces that are anti-matter in their
very design, one miscalculation may be one too many.
Its a common fact that the composite blast force of a nuclear explosion has
a predominately multilateral footprint,and that its shockwaves accelerate
much more radiply outward,than upward.A little thing called gravity sees to
that.So if they are going deeper with a blast,it only stands to reason that
seismic shockwaves will travel further in their respective directions as
well.
And,while on the subject of the 600+ blasts,wouldnt you think that being
that close to such an erractic fault line,the government may be pressing
their luck?After all,modern science has a much greater understanding than
Edward Teller and Company did during the atomic age.
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TOPIC: Pakistan, Saudi Arabia in secret nuke pact
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Date: Sat, Apr 1 2006 10:24 pm
From: "fruitella"
Neil Boss wrote:
> <visualseeplus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1143342013.936827.74250@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> However that plan has gone haywire with the arrival of Americans in
> Pakistan. The US is now so deeply embedded in pakistan 'fighting
> terrorism' that any attempt at nuclear cooperation between saudi & pak
> will be easily detected.
>
> Your assumption is that the Americans want to stop this from happening.
> History has shown this not to be the case, they back Pakistan no matter what
> they say.
Prior to 911, they wanted china to proliferate nukes to pakistan so it
could go on promoting terrorism (against India) using nukes as a
sheild. Post 911 however, they have discovered that terrorists know no
boarders.
However its almost a certainty that if and when a nuke/dirty bomb goes
off in the world somewhere, pakistan will in some way be connected to
the perpetrators, directly or indirectly.
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