soc.culture.usa
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa
soc.culture.usa@googlegroups.com
Today's topics:
* there are no jewish terrorists. only zionist terrorists... jews have
scruples. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/edc3b0051a6c40fc
* México: El fraude del siglo - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/28903911ee4e7feb
* Australia - Now Taiwan is buying our uranium - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/716fbd525c17ccb6
* Acusan A Chavez Y Smartmatic De Posible Conspiracion International. Por Andy
SHAW - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/1fb793bb08fd80e2
* WHO BENEFITS FROM ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e9f9979cee9bfd77
* TOP TEN REASONS SENATE WILL FAIL U S - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7fe28fef627e915a
* Some say Iran's weapons come from Russia - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/938d3d0d2a6b5e90
* ISLAM=TERROR - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ee55d71477935207
* AID TO ISRAEL MAY BE CANCELLED! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9126bc5d0bc244ca
==============================================================================
TOPIC: there are no jewish terrorists. only zionist terrorists... jews have
scruples.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/edc3b0051a6c40fc
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 3:53 pm
From: isaac_the_blind
NefeshBarYochai wrote:
>> serwad wrote:
>
>> IN THE PASDT TWO DAYS JEWISH TERRORISTS HAVE MURDERED 16-17 PALESTINIANS IN
>> COLD BLOOD, AND ZIONAZI BASTARDS STILL JUSTIFY THAT BY CALLING PALESTINIANS
>> "TERRORISTS"
>
> Of course the Palestinins launching attacks on Israel are terrorists.
> And your a terrorist too you dirty bastard. You are a fucking serwad
> that should be shit out daily and flushed down the toilet by any decent
> person.
>
And who bomber the King David hotel ? The Simpsons ?
No, Jewish TERRORISTS :-)
Isaac.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: México: El fraude del siglo
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/28903911ee4e7feb
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 10:46 pm
From: "PM"
México: El fraude del siglo
http://www.eldiarioexterior.com/noticia.asp?idarticulo=9433
Alvaro Vargas Llosa
México: El fraude del siglo
Alvaro Vargas Llosa
6 de abril de 2006
Ha causado un gran escándalo la filtración de un informe secreto
encargado por el gobierno mexicano a propósito de la "guerra sucia" ocurrida
bajo el Partido Revolucionario Institucional (PRI) en los años 70. En él se
acusa a las fuerzas armadas de llevar a cabo una política genocida contra
los sospechosos de actos subversivos en el sur del país entre fines de la
década del 60 y comienzos de la del 80.
Aún tomando en consideración una serie de factores atenuantes,
especialmente la circunstancia de que el Presidente Vicente Fox, quien
comisionó el estudio, considera que el informe no concede el peso suficiente
a los muchos abusos cometidos por los guerrilleros durante los años 70, la
información es lo bastante potente como para desenmascarar (una vez más) el
fraude absoluto que fue el PRI.
El ejercicio no es académico, por supuesto: muchos asesinos permanecen
en libertad, quinientas personas están todavía "desaparecidas", numerosas
familias probablemente jamás verán que se hace justicia y el PRI es todavía
una fuerza importante en la sociedad mexicana. Durante mi visita a México la
semana pasada, tuve la oportunidad de conversar con algunos de los
candidatos presidenciales así como también con un amplio espectro de
intelectuales, representantes de empresas, y periodistas. El consenso
generalizado apunta a que el PRI continuará ejerciendo un poder colosal a
través de su estructura gubernativa en los estados y los municipios así como
también en el Congreso, donde contará con un sólido bloque de votos. Aún
cuando Roberto Madrazo, el candidato del partido que gobernó México durante
gran parte del siglo 20, se encuentra en el tercer puesto, no puede ser
descartado del todo.
La verdad más importante que contiene ese informe es la que no formula
de manera directa: casi todo poder político reposa sobre la base del fraude.
Por supuesto, en las democracias más avanzadas los controles y contrapesos
limitan el alcance del fraude y por tanto sus consecuencias practicas. Pero
incluso en países con cierto grado de prosperidad económica y una tradición
democrática esos controles casi nunca son suficientes, por lo que las
lecciones de la era del PRI poseen una significación universal.
Durante décadas, el PRI mantuvo la llamada "Doctrina Estrada", una
política exterior que debió su nombre a un ministro de relaciones exteriores
de los años 20 y estuvo basada en el principio de la "no intervención". En
teoría, esto significaba: no nos importa lo que hagan en sus propios países,
así que déjennos hacer los que nos plazca en el nuestro. En la práctica,
quería decir: haremos la vista gorda y guiñaremos un ojo a cualquier
corriente subversiva o gobierno que adopte la ideología tercermundista,
incluidos los revolucionarios domésticos, cualesquiera sean sus crímenes,
mientras ellos no promuevan una revolución activa contra nosotros en México.
Esto se tradujo en una connivencia con toda clase de revolucionarios: el PRI
otorgó a muchos de ellos un refugio seguro, apoyó sus causas en los foros
internacionales, y proporcionó enormes subsidios a una clase intelectual a
la que le estaba permitido criticar tibiamente al PRI de vez en cuando a
cambio de la promesa de no cuestionar la premisa del partido único. Esta
política ayudó a difundir y dar legitimidad a las ideas que se tradujeron en
violencia y pobreza por toda la región latinoamericana.
Sabíamos, por supuesto, que esta política no vacunó a México, tal como
lo esperaba el PRI, contra la revolución armada. Varios grupos entraron en
acción en el sur del país en las décadas del 60 y del 70. Y justo cuando el
Tratado de Libre Comercio de América del Norte entraba en vigor a mediados
de los años 90, estalló la rebelión de Chiapas bajo el liderazgo de Marcos,
ese emblema del "chic" político postmoderno. Sabíamos también que habían
existido algunos episodios de represión gubernamental contra manifestaciones
estudiantiles. Lo que desconocíamos hasta la aparición de este informe era
que el fervor revolucionario en verdad enmascaraba lo que-según los propios
estándares del PRI-solamente puede ser denominado una política genocida
fascista o de extrema derecha, consistente en aniquilar a poblaciones
enteras y asesinar a numerosas víctimas inocentes.
El PRI entendía bien los tiempos que corrían. Mientras mantuviese su
ayuda corrupta a los revolucionarios dentro y fuera de México y una
inflamada retórica antiimperialista, tenía carta blanca por parte de toda
clase de intelectuales, movimientos de la sociedad civil y grupos de
derechos humanos para practicar una negación sistemática de todo lo que el
PRI, supuesto animal progresista, representaba. Por su puesto, resulta
difícil recordar esto hoy en día, ya que la izquierda rompió con el PRI en
la década del 90, cuando, en uno de sus muchos giros oportunistas, ese
partido adoptó la globalización y comenzó a abrir (a medias) la economía.
Pero la historia del PRI hasta ese momento es la de un fraude ideológico y
político a escala colosal por razones de poder.
Los mexicanos harían bien en recordar esto cuando acudan a las urnas
en julio y quienes no son mexicanos deberían prestar atención a este nuevo
recordatorio de que, aún en manos de gobiernos que nos sentimos inclinados a
apoyar, el estado puede ser, en palabras de Nietzsche, el más frío de todos
los monstruos fríos.
Alvaro Vargas Llosa es Académico Asociado Senior y Director del Centro
Para la Prosperidad Global en The Independent Institute. Su libro Liberty
for Latin America ha sido publicado por Farrar, Straus & Giroux y, en
castellano, por Planeta (Rumbo a la libertad).
--
CALLES DE LA HABANA: (ESTE WEBSITE ES UNA JOYA)
Calle http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/calle23/index.htm 23
Quinta http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/quinta/index.htm
Avenida
Línea <http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/linea/index.htm
Almendares
http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/almendares/index.htm
Calle http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/calle26/index.htm 26
Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/ave26/index.htm 26
Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/ave11/index.htm 11
Avenida
http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/presidentes/index.htm
de los Presidentes
Rancho http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/rancho/index.htm
Boyeros
Monserrate
http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/monserrate/index.htm
Empedrado http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/empedrado/index.htm
Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/puerto/index.htm del
Puerto
Calle Cuba http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/cuba/ind
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Australia - Now Taiwan is buying our uranium
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/716fbd525c17ccb6
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 6:04 am
From: RodneyK <"(RodneyK)RodneyKShanley"@hotmail.com>
Neil Boss wrote:
> So CUNTER see your CUNTRY loves to sell uranium to anyone they can.
>
> Neil Boss <neilboss_boss@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:e12qet$b0u$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>> Neil Boss <neilboss_boss@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:...
>>> Taiwan a country that has not signed the NPT is being sold uranium
> through
>>> the back door. While Australian go around saying they will never sell
>>> uranium to any nation that has not signed the NPT they in fact make
> deals.
>>> Australia can't be trusted.
>>>
>>>
> http://smh.com.au/news/national/now-taiwan-buys-our-uranium/2006/04/03/11439
>>> 16466699.html
>>>
>>> Now Taiwan is buying our uranium
>>> Email Print Normal font Large font By Craig Skehan
>>> April 4, 2006
>>>
>>> TWO Australian mining companies have quietly signed contracts for the
>> supply
>>> of uranium to China's arch-rival, Taiwan, raising fears that it could
>>> undermine efforts to stop the spread of nuclear weapons.
>>>
>>> Taiwan is not a signatory to the non-proliferation treaty on nuclear
> arms,
>>> but it has confirmed the uranium deals to the Herald yesterday - on the
>> same
>>> day that China's Premier signed a uranium deal with Australia in
> Canberra.
>>> Although Taiwan does not have nuclear weapons, the CIA revealed in the
>> '70s
>>> that it had established a program to acquire them.
>>>
>>> In the past Australia rebuffed pressure from Taiwan to sell it uranium,
>>> fearing a hostile reaction from China.
>>>
>>> Taiwanese officials said the deal had been signed by the electricity
>>> producer Taipower with BHP Billiton and ERA during the past 12 months.
>>>
>>> Osman Chia, from the Taipei economic and cultural office in Canberra -
>>> Taiwan's de facto embassy - said yesterday the arrangement provided for
>>> indirect trade through the US.
>>>
>>> "We don't have official relations with Australia, so we go through the
>>> United States," Mr Chia said.
>>>
>>> An ERA spokeswoman said last night that as yet no uranium had been
> shipped
>>> to Taiwan because all available production had already been pre-sold to
>>> other customers.
>>>
>>> Late last year Taiwan warned that China's build-up of missiles -
> including
>>> with nuclear warheads - posed a threat to Australia and all other
> nations
>> in
>>> the region.
>>>
>>> There has been debate about the strategic wisdom of selling the ore to
>> China
>>> as well as over John Howard recent floating of the idea of uranium sales
>> to
>>> India.
>>>
>>> India already has nuclear weapons and, like Taiwan, is not a signatory
> to
>>> the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty.
>>>
>>> The Taiwanese uranium deals with Australia have escaped public attention
>>> even though they constitute a potential precedent for any supply of
>>> Australian uranium to India.
>>>
>>> "We do not make the signing of individual contracts public," an ERA
>>> spokeswoman told the Herald yesterday.
>>>
>>> The Hawke Labor government announced in 1986 that it would not allow any
>>> export of Australian uranium to Taiwan, noting a lack of diplomatic
>>> relations or bilateral safeguards agreement.
>>>
>>> In 1996 the Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer, said Australia was
>>> "exploring conditions" for a reversal of the ban. But negotiations
> stalled
>>> amid diplomatic sensitivity over cross-straits relations and Canberra's
>>> alliance with the US.
>>>
>>> Australia is also a party to the South Pacific Nuclear Free Zone Treaty,
>>> which bans uranium sales to any countries which have not signed the
>> Nuclear
>>> Non-proliferation Treaty.
>>>
>>> BHP Billiton refused to say when the first shipments to Taiwan would
> take
>>> place, but confirmed there was no public announcement in Australia when
> it
>>> signed the supply contract.
>>>
>>> "It is not company policy to comment on the implementation of
> contracts,"
>>> the BHP Billiton spokesman said.
>>>
>>> The federal Resources Minister, Ian Macfarlane, told the Herald that
>> Taiwan
>>> was a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency and subjected
>> itself
>>> to inspections by the organisation. "However, Australia does not, and
> has
>> no
>>> avenues, to sell uranium directly to Taiwan," he said.
>>>
>>> "There is a strong global uranium market - Canada has already signed
>>> multi-billion contracts with China for the supply of nuclear reactors,
> at
>>> the same time as having an arrangement to sell uranium to Taiwan.
>>>
>>> "As the largest holders of uranium, we can deal ourselves into the
> process
>>> of closely monitoring how the product is used around the world or we can
>>> just look on as others set rules we may not think are tough enough."
>>>
>>> In 2002 little attention was paid to an "exchange of notes" between
>>> Australia and the US allowing "re-transfer" of Australian uranium.
>>>
>>> The US recently agreed to provide nuclear technologies to India despite
> it
>>> not having signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty.
>>>
Very close cooperation between US and Aussie would divide the uranium
ore market between them.
Selling uranium to Rep of China guarantees that Australia could sell
uranium to Taiwan under US and international law. (2 Chinas policy).
Do not discount the strength of the friendship between US and Australia.
RodneyK
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Acusan A Chavez Y Smartmatic De Posible Conspiracion International. Por
Andy SHAW
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/1fb793bb08fd80e2
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 10 2006 1:49 am
From: "PM"
Acusan A Chavez Y Smartmatic De Posible Conspiracion International.
Por Andy Shaw
CARACAS. Domingo, 09 de abril de 2006. ABC News.Chicago-
Irregularidades identificadas en los procesos electorales en Venezuela se
repiten en Chicago.
¿Será casualidad? En Chicago contrataron la misma compañía responsable por
los impunes fraudes electores en Venezuela. La compañía en cuestión:
Smartmatic-Sequoia propiedad del gobierno de Venezuela. El Concejal Ed Burke
del Comité de Finanzas de la ciudad de Chicago denuncio:"Hemos tropezado con
una posible conspiración internacional para socavar las bases del proceso
electoral de los Estados Unidos".El Concejal Beaver aseguro que esta
elección ha sido la peor en 32 años. Agrego que hoy en el periódico de
Pensilvania la empresa Sequoia-Smartmatic también esta siendo investigada y
que el condado decidió cancelar el contrato con la misma. Agrego que la
empresa sostiene vínculo con la política corrupta del gobierno de Venezuela.
Para leer noticia en ingles y ver video click aqui:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=4065162
Alderman: Election Day troubles could be part of 'international conspiracy'
By Andy Shaw
April 7, 2006 - One of Chicago's most powerful aldermen has a conspiracy
theory for the voting problems experienced during the March primary.
Alderman Ed Burke wants to know why the Chicago board of elections would
pick a Venezuelan company to supply the city's new voting machines, a
company Burke believes has the ability to rig an election for political
gain.
Related Links
a.. Watch the Video
Both the voting machine company and the board of elections are calling
alderman Burke's suggestion of a conspiracy absurd. This happened during a
city council hearing Friday on problems during last month's primary.
Alderman Ed Burke, whose wife just got appointed to the Illinois Supreme
Court, took back the spotlight Friday at a wild city council hearing where
Burke said the vote counting problems on primary election night may be part
of an international conspiracy led by the president of Venezuela, who is
engaged in a war of words with the Bush administration.
"We've stumbled across what could be the international conspiracy to subvert
the electoral process in the United States of America ," said Ald. Ed Burke,
finance committee chairman.
Alderman Burke says at least 15 Venezuelans, who may not have been in the
country legally, worked side-by-side with Chicago election officials on
primary night March 21, which turned out to be a vote-counting nightmare.
Burke says the fiasco may have been politically motivated, because the
president of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, is considered an enemy of the United
States and may be connected to a Venezuelan company that owns a US firm that
provided Chicago and Cook County with the new voting machines that
contributed to the election night problems.
"I don't know how anybody could hire a company that's ownership is hidden,
and traces its roots to Venezuela, where they've been involved with the
dictator of Venezuela who Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld says is an enemy of
the United States," said Burke.
The Venezualans were providing technical assistance, not tabulating votes,
and the conspiracy theory is over the top, according to election officials
and the company that provided the new equipment.
"The ability of Chavez to be manipulating the vote in Chicago is impossible"
said Jack Blaine, Sequoia Voting Systems president.
"We have enough redundant security measures in place to protect the accuracy
of the vote," said Langdon Neal, Chicago election board.
The suggestion that loose screws on new machines contributed to election
night problems is a perfect metaphor to describe a city council hearing
featuring more questions than answers.
"I think that you belong to the secret brotherhood of I don't know, and I
found your testimony so far to be not credible," said Ald. Leslie Hairston,
5th Ward.
Despite all of the criticism, the president of the voting machine company
said a post-election inspection of 1,000 machines uncovered only three
mechanical problems, so most of the tabulating delays were human error. But
he is promising a new set of more user-friendly machines by November, and
city election officials are promising a better job of training election
judges and checking out machines in advance.
It is, however, probably too late to change companies, and the machine
makers, Sequoia and its Venezuelan parent, Smartmatic, will eventually get
paid the last $16 million from its contract with the city and the county.
You can see the ABC7 report by clicking on the video icon above. You will
need Windows Media Player 9 or higher to view this video. You can get it
FREE by clicking here. NOTE: Video clips will only be available for 5-days
from the date they were created. ALSO: Video clips will play in a separate
window on Mac OS X machines, you may also see a video help screen.
ABC7 News Team
Andy Shaw, Political Reporter, ABC 7 News
--
CALLES DE LA HABANA: (ESTE WEBSITE ES UNA JOYA)
Calle http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/calle23/index.htm 23
Quinta http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/quinta/index.htm
Avenida
Línea <http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/linea/index.htm
Almendares
http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/almendares/index.htm
Calle http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/calle26/index.htm 26
Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/ave26/index.htm 26
Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/ave11/index.htm 11
Avenida
http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/presidentes/index.htm
de los Presidentes
Rancho http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/rancho/index.htm
Boyeros
Monserrate
http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/monserrate/index.htm
Empedrado http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/empedrado/index.htm
Avenida http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/puerto/index.htm del
Puerto
Calle Cuba http://www.guije.com/pueblo/habana/calles/cuba/ind
==============================================================================
TOPIC: WHO BENEFITS FROM ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/e9f9979cee9bfd77
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 11:07 pm
From: txmxking@yahoo.com
1) MEXICO - Millions of U. S. dollars stream into Mexico every month
from illegal immigrants that send their paychecks home to their
families. The Mexican government is the ultimate benefactor as they
control the lives of their citizens.
2) ORGANIZED DRUG DEALERS - In the 1960's you could drive down to
the border and pick up a pound of weed for about 30 U. S. dollars. The
weed came from a peasant farmer that was not involved in an
'international drug trade'. Now the stakes are much different. Drug
dealing is a multi-billion dollar industry. Not only do Americans spend
millions of dollars on legal pharmaceutical drugs in Mexico, but they
also prop the Mexican economy through billions of dollars of supposedly
'illegal' Mexican drugs. Tons of cocaine are transported easily
from South America and into the U. S across our Southern border. The
weed (marijuana) trade supports thousands along the borders and in the
pot growing regions of Mexico. The Mexican governments futile attempts
at cleaning up border towns like Nuevo Laredo and others is only
because it benefits them to keep them lawless. The drug trade along the
Mexican border has created thousands of instant millionaires along the
border, in Mexico and in the U. S. A.. Illegal immigrants that enter
the U. S. are couriers and drug pushers for most of the illegal drugs
entering the U. S.. Mexicans nationals and Mexican-Americans living in
the Southwestern border-states control the illegal drug trade in
Marijuana, Cocaine and Heroin as well as the thriving drug trade in
pharmaceutical drugs manufactured in Mexico. Another residual effect of
the drug trade is the prevalence of gangs in the U. S.. Gangs are
simply disposable retail drug operations for the organized drug
dealers. And gang members carry out the dirty work for the drug dealers
so they never get their hands dirty. Mexican organized crime is no
different than Italian crime families and the Mafia. They expect
loyalty or the price is death. Where there is drug dealing there is
prostitution. Hundreds perhaps thousands of women have wound up dead
and discarded into the desert. Many of these were the result of
organized criminals running drugs and prostitutes. The more illegal
immigrants that are entering and living in the U. S., the more the
organized drug lords have to spread their goods and earn them a
lucrative living. Tighten the borders and you tighten the noose on the
criminals. It won't stop them completely. As long as weed is a highly
desired illegally commodity in the U. S., the drug lords will continue
to make a killing on this easily grown, cheap agricultural product
worth increasingly more on this side of the border only because it is
illegal.
3) CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS IN THE U. S. - Illegal immigration has
been a windfall for developers and contractors in the building trades
as well as for contractors in the industrial trades. In Southwestern
states where Unions are not a requirement for contractors, contractors
have taken full advantage of illegal immigrant workers. Unions have
always been the favorite child of Italian crime families and other
organized crime. Illegal immigrants are the favorite child of organized
crime now. Contractors can hire disposable illegal immigrants that no
one will miss if they disappear. Contractors can also pay minimal
wages, pocket employee taxes like FICA and Social Security and threaten
the workers with exposure or deportation if they do not do exactly what
they are told to do or if they don't keep their mouths shut. They are
basically slaves to their employers. Illegal immigrants are the slave
trade of the twenty first century.
4) HOTEL AND RESTAURANT INDUSTRIES - Hotels and restaurants hire
millions of illegal immigrants. It saves them money and they have an
endless supply of cheap labor.
5) LANDSCAPERS - How do so many landscapers make so much money so
fast? Illegal immigrants.
6) JANITORIAL SERVICES - Again cheap labor, and an endless supply of
workers.
7) CORPORATIONS AND BUSINESSES - By hiring contractors, landscapers
and janitorial services that employs illegal immigrants they save money
because generally they can provide the same service for less.
8) OTHERS - Domestic services like maids, mechanic shops, illegal
chop shops. Most of the cars stolen in the United States end up in
Mexico or are sold and traded through Mexico as parts.
9) POLITICIANS - Most politicians are investors too. If the companies
they invest in make more money because they hire illegals, they're
happy.
WHO LOSES FROM ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION?
1) TAXPAYERS - More welfare benefits, more roads, more schools, more
free health care, more strain on utilities and limited resources, less
legal citizens that pay their fair share of taxes.
2) SCHOOLS - More students that don't speak the language slow down
those that do. It costs more to educate. Teachers become frustrated
because they are judged and evaluated based on standards that are set
for English speaking students and they know they can't possibly
expect the non-English speaking students to score on the same level as
English speaking students. Schools with lower performing non-English
speaking students or students who have difficulty with the language end
up getting LESS money for education at their schools.
3) HEALTH CARE - Health care costs rise because of an increase in
indigent care.
4) STATE GOVERNMENTS - States are required to provide more services
and utilities for a larger population that is not exponentially
increasing the tax base.
5) LOCAL GOVERNMENTS - Same issue as the state governments.
6) MEXICAN NATIONALS - As long as the Mexican government knows that
it can export their citizens and receive a double benefit they will
continue to promote illegal immigration to the U. S. Less Mexican
citizens in Mexico means less that the government has to pay for its
citizens. More illegal immigrants in the U. S. means more money coming
to Mexico from the U. S. And as long as they can make money by
exporting their citizens to another country, they are less likely to
improve conditions in their own country for their own citizens.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: TOP TEN REASONS SENATE WILL FAIL U S
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/7fe28fef627e915a
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 11:15 pm
From: "Tx Max King"
There are ten main reasons the Senate will screw us
and pass a watered down immigration bill.
REASON NUMBER ONE:
MONEY - The good Senators have too many investments
in companies that are now addicted to cheap immigrant
labor for their profits.
REASON NUMBER TWO:
MONEY - They don't want to rattle Wall Streets cage by
admitting that millions of illegal workers are criminals
under our current laws. And that millions of employers
are also criminals for hiring illegal workers.
REASON NUMBER THREE:
VOTES - They're afraid of a backlash from Hispanic
voters in the next election. What they don't understand
is that many, if not most of the American Hispanic voters
that actually vote, all agree that tougher immigration
laws are neccessary to retain our way of life and
to guarantee those same opportunities to future
Americans and legal immigrants.
REASON NUMBER FOUR:
VOTES - They're afraid of the Catholic church and
other religious entities out there, that believe we
should turn the other cheek and let all
immigrants enter this country whenever they want to.
my favorite . . .
REASON NUMBER FIVE:
STUPIDITY - They just don't comprehend the irreversible
damage that ignoring millions of illegal
immigrants in this country and the millions more on their
way is creating in our society and in our economy.
REASON NUMBER SIX:
SELFISH GREED - They're all ready to get back to bickering,
name calling and grand standing on issues they can actually
insult each other on and look good for their personal
special interest groups that they all seem to represent
more often than not.
REASON NUMBER SEVEN:
LIES - Most of them would have to admit that they
employ illegal immigrants as servants, maids,
cooks, landscapers and general go-for slaves.
REASON NUMBER EIGHT:
COWARDS - Most of them are afraid to stand up
for what is right rather than be seen as traitors
to extremist organizations they diligently pacify.
REASON NUMBER NINE:
FEAR - Most of them are afraid of the leaders
in their political parties that follow the other
eight reasons.
REASON NUMBER TEN:
IGNORANCE - Most of them are clueless to how
Americans really feel about issues because they
only listen to the press and the special interest lobbies,
lawyers and extremist organizations camped out
in Washington DC.
Add your own reason here________________
I'm sure there are many more.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Some say Iran's weapons come from Russia
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/938d3d0d2a6b5e90
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 11:20 pm
From: "James H. Hood"
captain. <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
news:qgh_f.45659$Ph4.40049@edtnps90...
>
> "James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
> news:44396a1a$0$1008$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net...
> >
> > captain. <spammersmustdie@now.net> wrote in message
> > news:lc8_f.45580$Ph4.6131@edtnps90...
> >>
> >> "James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4438c81e$0$1018$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net...
> >> >
> >> > Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@priv.onet.pl> wrote in message
> >> > news:87acaw6xfx.fsf@anfi.homeunix.net...
> >>
> >> >> Of course we all belive that these (potentially) "multipurpose
> > cultures"
> >> >> will never ever be used for other purposes that the one *currently*
> >> >> *officially* stated.
> >> >
> >> > So show us where the production facilities are located.
> >> >
> >>
> >> of course. if we can't easily find where they are located then they
must
> > not
> >> exist.
> >
> > Prove they exist.
> >
>
> are you a communist? you're acting like one.
You ARE a dolt, and are acting like one.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: ISLAM=TERROR
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/ee55d71477935207
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 11:20 pm
From: "The Pragmatist"
Good--I hope that this trend becomes a TIDAL WAVE. Islam is trying to
stifle freedom of speech to gain its ends.
Muslims prefer denial of the reality of the barbarity of their
ideology/culture to truth--the west will not be so misled.
It is in the air now--there is no sympathy whatsoever for the state of
Muslims--they have brought EVERYTHING upon themselves, and until they
acknowledge this fact of reality, nothing will change and their Koranic
terror campaigns will continue.
"Richard Dell" <rfdell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144185231.132758.282790@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
... and outstripping books on that endangered species - "nice" Islam.
Efraim Karsh's new book "Islamic Imperialism - a History" is just the
latest to puncture the absurd Muslim position of victimhood.
http://tinyurl.com/z6yf4
Muslims point to Britain and the USA and shout "Imperialists" (why not
the Russians?), but the truth is they yearn for the return of their own
Empire. Unlike Western Empires which were based on commerce, the Muslim
Empire was based on pillage and slavery, imposed by the sword and ruled
- to this day - by terror. But they don't want you to know that. What a
pity.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110008181
When satirical depictions of the prophet Muhammad in a Danish newspaper
sparked a worldwide wave of Muslim violence early this year, observers
naturally focused on the wanton destruction of Western embassies,
businesses, and other institutions. Less attention was paid to the
words that often accompanied the riots--words with ominous historical
echoes. "Hurry up and apologize to our nation, because if you do not,
you will regret it," declared Khaled Mash'al, the leader of Hamas,
fresh from the Islamist group's sweeping victory in the Palestinian
elections:
This is because our nation is progressing and is victorious. . . .
By Allah, you will be defeated. . . . Tomorrow, our nation will sit on
the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination but a
fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing. Apologize today,
before remorse will do you no good.
[reminds one of the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail
...]
Among Islamic radicals, such gloating about the prowess and imminent
triumph of their "nation" is as commonplace as recitals of the long and
bitter catalog of grievances related to the loss of historical Muslim
dominion. Osama bin Laden has repeatedly alluded to the collapse of
Ottoman power at the end of World War I and, with it, the abolition of
the Ottoman caliphate. "What America is tasting now," he declared in
the immediate wake of 9/11, "is only a copy of what we have tasted. Our
Islamic nation has been tasting the same for more than 80 years, of
humiliation and disgrace, its sons killed and their blood spilled, its
sanctities desecrated." Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's top deputy, has
pointed still farther into the past, lamenting "the tragedy of
al-Andalus"--that is, the end of Islamic rule in Spain in 1492.
These historical claims are in turn frequently dismissed by Westerners
as delusional, a species of mere self-aggrandizement or propaganda. But
the Islamists are perfectly serious, and know what they are doing.
Their rhetoric has a millennial warrant, both in doctrine and in fact,
and taps into a deep undercurrent that has characterized the political
culture of Islam from the beginning. Though tempered and qualified in
different places and at different times, the Islamic longing for
unfettered suzerainty has never disappeared, and has resurfaced in our
own day with a vengeance. It goes by the name of empire.
"I was ordered to fight all men until they say, 'There is no god but
Allah.' " With these farewell words, the prophet Muhammad summed up the
international vision of the faith he brought to the world. As a
universal religion, Islam envisages a global political order in which
all humankind will live under Muslim rule as either believers or
subject communities. In order to achieve this goal, it is incumbent on
all free, male, adult Muslims to carry out an uncompromising "struggle
in the path of Allah," or jihad. As the 14th-century historian and
philosopher Abdel Rahman ibn Khaldun wrote, "In the Muslim community,
the jihad is a religious duty because of the universalism of the
Islamic mission and the obligation [to convert] everybody to Islam
either by persuasion or by force."
As a historical matter, the birth of Islam was inextricably linked with
empire. Unlike Christianity and the Christian kingdoms that once
existed under or alongside it, Islam has never distinguished between
temporal and religious powers, which were combined in the person of
Muhammad. Having fled from his hometown of Mecca to Medina in 622 c.e.
to become a political and military leader rather than a private
preacher, Muhammad spent the last ten years of his life fighting to
unify Arabia under his rule. Indeed, he devised the concept of jihad
shortly after his migration to Medina as a means of enticing his local
followers to raid Meccan caravans. Had it not been for his sudden
death, he probably would have expanded his reign well beyond the
peninsula.
The Qur'anic revelations during Muhammad's Medina years abound with
verses extolling the virtues of jihad, as do the countless sayings and
traditions (hadith) attributed to the prophet. Those who participate in
this holy pursuit are to be generously rewarded, both in this life and
in the afterworld, where they will reside in shaded and ever-green
gardens, indulged by pure women. Accordingly, those killed while waging
jihad should not be mourned: "Allah has bought from the believers their
soul and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in
the path of Allah; they kill and are killed. . . . So rejoice in the
bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph."
But the doctrine's appeal was not just otherworldly. By forbidding
fighting and raiding within the community of believers (the umma),
Muhammad had deprived the Arabian tribes of a traditional source of
livelihood. For a time, the prophet could rely on booty from
non-Muslims as a substitute for the lost war spoils, which is why he
never went out of his way to convert all of the tribes seeking a place
in his Pax Islamica. Yet given his belief in the supremacy of Islam and
his relentless commitment to its widest possible dissemination, he
could hardly deny conversion to those wishing to undertake it. Once the
whole of Arabia had become Muslim, a new source of wealth and an
alternative outlet would have to be found for the aggressive energies
of the Arabian tribes, and it was, in the Fertile Crescent and the
Levant.
Within twelve years of Muhammad's death, a Middle Eastern empire,
stretching from Iran to Egypt and from Yemen to northern Syria, had
come into being under the banner of Islam. By the early 8th century,
the Muslims had hugely extended their grip to Central Asia and much of
the Indian subcontinent, had laid siege to the Byzantine capital of
Constantinople, and had overrun North Africa and Spain. Had they not
been contained in 732 at the famous battle of Poitiers in west central
France, they might well have swept deep into northern Europe.
Though sectarianism and civil war divided the Muslim world in the
generations after Muhammad, the basic dynamic of Islam remained
expansionist. The short-lived Umayyad dynasty (661-750) gave way to the
ostensibly more pious Abbasid caliphs, whose readiness to accept
non-Arabs solidified Islam's hold on its far-flung possessions. From
their imperial capital of Baghdad, the Abbasids ruled, with waning
authority, until the Mongol invasion of 1258. The most powerful of
their successors would emerge in Anatolia, among the Ottoman Turks who
invaded Europe in the mid-14th century and would conquer Constantinople
in 1453, destroying the Byzantine empire and laying claim to virtually
all of the Balkan peninsula and the eastern Mediterranean.
Like their Arab predecessors, the Ottomans were energetic
empire-builders in the name of jihad. By the early 16th century, they
had conquered Syria and Egypt from the Mamluks, the formidable slave
soldiers who had contained the Mongols and destroyed the Crusader
kingdoms. Under Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent, they soon turned
northward. By the middle of the 17th century they seemed poised to
overrun Christian Europe, only to be turned back in fierce fighting at
the gates of Vienna in 1683--on September 11, of all dates. Though
already on the defensive by the early 18th century, the Ottoman
empire--the proverbial "sick man of Europe"--would endure another 200
years. Its demise at the hands of the victorious European powers of
World War I, to say nothing of the work of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the
father of modern Turkish nationalism, finally brought an end both to
the Ottoman caliphate itself and to Islam's centuries-long imperial
reach.
To Islamic historians, the chronicles of Muslim empire represent a
model of shining religious zeal and selfless exertion in the cause of
Allah. Many Western historians, for their part, have been inclined to
marvel at the perceived sophistication and tolerance of Islamic rule,
praising the caliphs' cultivation of the arts and sciences and their
apparent willingness to accommodate ethnic and religious minorities.
There is some truth in both views, but neither captures the deeper and
often more callous impulses at work in the expanding umma set in motion
by Muhammad. For successive generations of Islamic rulers, imperial
dominion was dictated not by universalistic religious principles but by
their prophet's vision of conquest and his summons to fight and
subjugate unbelievers.
That the worldly aims of Islam might conflict with its moral and
spiritual demands was evident from the start of the caliphate. Though
the Umayyad monarchs portrayed their constant wars of expansion as
"jihad in the path of Allah," this was largely a façade, concealing an
increasingly secular and absolutist rule. Lax in their attitude toward
Islamic practices and mores, they were said to have set aside special
days for drinking alcohol--specifically forbidden by the prophet--and
showed little inhibition about appearing nude before their boon
companions and female singers.
The coup staged by the Abbasids in 747-49 was intended to restore
Islam's true ways and undo the godless practices of their predecessors;
but they too, like the Umayyads, were first and foremost imperial
monarchs. For the Abbasids, Islam was a means to consolidating their
jurisdiction and enjoying the fruits of conquest. They complied with
the stipulations of the nascent religious law (shari'a) only to the
extent that it served their needs, and indulged in the same
vices--wine, singing girls, and sexual license--that had ruined the
reputation of the Umayyads.
Of particular importance to the Abbasids was material splendor. On the
occasion of his nephew's coronation as the first Abbasid caliph, Dawud
ibn Ali had proclaimed, "We did not rebel in order to grow rich in
silver and in gold." Yet it was precisely the ever-increasing pomp of
the royal court that would underpin Abbasid prestige. The gem-studded
dishes of the caliph's table, the gilded curtains of the palace, the
golden tree and ruby-eyed golden elephant that adorned the royal
courtyard were a few of the opulent possessions that bore witness to
this extravagance.
The riches of the empire, moreover, were concentrated in the hands of
the few at the expense of the many. While the caliph might bestow
thousands of dirhams on a favorite poet for reciting a few lines,
ordinary laborers in Baghdad carried home a dirham or two a month. As
for the empire's more distant subjects, the caliphs showed little
interest in their conversion to the faith, preferring instead to
colonize their lands and expropriate their wealth and labor. Not until
the third Islamic century did the bulk of these populations embrace the
religion of their imperial masters, and this was a process emanating
from below--an effort by non-Arabs to escape paying tribute and to
remove social barriers to their advancement. To make matters worse, the
metropolis plundered the resources of the provinces, a practice
inaugurated at the time of Muhammad and reaching its apogee under the
Abbasids. Combined with the government's weakening control of the
periphery, this shameless exploitation triggered numerous rebellions
throughout the empire.
Tension between the center and the periphery was, indeed, to become the
hallmark of Islam's imperial experience. Even in its early days, under
the Umayyads, the empire was hopelessly overextended, largely because
of inadequate means of communication and control. Under the Abbasids, a
growing number of provinces fell under the sway of local dynasties.
With no effective metropolis, the empire was reduced to an
agglomeration of entities united only by the overarching factors of
language and religion. Though the Ottomans temporarily reversed the
trend, their own imperial ambitions were likewise eventually thwarted
by internal fragmentation.
In the long history of Islamic empire, the wide gap between delusions
of grandeur and the centrifugal forces of localism would be bridged
time and again by force of arms, making violence a key element of
Islamic political culture. No sooner had Muhammad died than his
successor, Abu Bakr, had to suppress a widespread revolt among the
Arabian tribes. Twenty-three years later, the head of the umma, the
caliph Uthman ibn Affan, was murdered by disgruntled rebels; his
successor, Ali ibn Abi Talib, was confronted for most of his reign with
armed insurrections, most notably by the governor of Syria, Mu'awiya
ibn Abi Sufian, who went on to establish the Umayyad dynasty after
Ali's assassination. Mu'awiya's successors managed to hang on to power
mainly by relying on physical force, and were consumed for most of
their reign with preventing or quelling revolts in the diverse corners
of their empire. The same was true for the Abbasids during the long
centuries of their sovereignty.
Western academics often hold up the Ottoman empire as an exception to
this earlier pattern. In fact the caliphate did deal relatively gently
with its vast non-Muslim subject populations--provided that they
acquiesced in their legal and institutional inferiority in the Islamic
order of things. When these groups dared to question their subordinate
status, however, let alone attempt to break free from the Ottoman yoke,
they were viciously put down. In the century or so between Napoleon's
conquests in the Middle East and World War I, the Ottomans embarked on
an orgy of bloodletting in response to the nationalist aspirations of
their European subjects. The Greek war of independence of the 1820's,
the Danubian uprisings of 1848 and the attendant Crimean war, the
Balkan explosion of the 1870's, the Greco-Ottoman war of 1897--all were
painful reminders of the costs of resisting Islamic imperial rule.
Nor was such violence confined to Ottoman Europe. Turkey's Afro-Asiatic
provinces, though far less infected with the nationalist virus, were
also scenes of mayhem and destruction. The Ottoman army or its
surrogates brought force to bear against Wahhabi uprisings in
Mesopotamia and the Levant in the early 19th century, against civil
strife in Lebanon in the 1840's (culminating in the 1860 massacres in
Mount Lebanon and Damascus), and against a string of Kurdish
rebellions. In response to the national awakening of the Armenians in
the 1890's, Constantinople killed tens of thousands--a taste of the
horrors that lay ahead for the Armenians during World War I.
The legacy of this imperial experience is not difficult to discern in
today's Islamic world. Physical force has remained the main if not the
sole instrument of political discourse in the Middle East. Throughout
the region, absolute leaders still supersede political institutions,
and citizenship is largely synonymous with submission; power is often
concentrated in the hands of small, oppressive minorities; religious,
ethnic, and tribal conflicts abound; and the overriding preoccupation
of sovereigns is with their own survival.
At the domestic level, these circumstances have resulted in the world's
most illiberal polities. Political dissent is dealt with by repression,
and ethnic and religious differences are settled by internecine strife
and murder. One need only mention, among many instances, Syria's
massacre of 20,000 of its Muslim activists in the early 1980's, or the
brutal treatment of Iraq's Shiite and Kurdish communities until the
2003 war, or the genocidal campaign now being conducted in Darfur by
the government of Sudan and its allied militias. As for foreign policy
in the Middle East, it too has been pursued by means of crude force,
ranging from terrorism and subversion to outright aggression, with
examples too numerous and familiar to cite.
Reinforcing these habits is the fact that, to this day, Islam has
retained its imperial ambitions. The last great Muslim empire may have
been destroyed and the caliphate left vacant, but the dream of regional
and world domination has remained very much alive. Even the ostensibly
secular doctrine of pan-Arabism has been effectively Islamic in its
ethos, worldview, and imperialist vision. In the words of Nuri Said,
longtime prime minister of Iraq and a prominent early champion of this
doctrine: "Although Arabs are naturally attached to their native land,
their nationalism is not confined by boundaries. It is an aspiration to
restore the great tolerant civilization of the early caliphate."
That this "great tolerant civilization" reached well beyond today's
Middle East is not lost on those who hope for its restoration. Like the
leaders of al Qaeda, many Muslims and Arabs unabashedly pine for the
reconquest of Spain and consider their 1492 expulsion from the country
a grave historical injustice waiting to be undone. Indeed, as
immigration and higher rates of childbirth have greatly increased the
number of Muslims within Europe itself over the past several decades,
countries that were never ruled by the caliphate have become targets of
Muslim imperial ambition. Since the late 1980's, Islamists have looked
upon the growing population of French Muslims as proof that France,
too, has become a part of the House of Islam. In Britain, even the more
moderate elements of the Muslim community are candid in setting out
their aims. As the late Zaki Badawi, a doyen of interfaith dialogue in
the UK, put it, "Islam is a universal religion. It aims to bring its
message to all corners of the earth. It hopes that one day the whole of
humanity will be one Muslim community."
Whether in its militant or its more benign version, this
world-conquering agenda continues to meet with condescension and denial
on the part of many educated Westerners. To intellectuals,
foreign-policy experts, and politicians alike, "empire" and
"imperialism" are categories that apply exclusively to the European
powers and, more recently, to the United States. In this view of
things, Muslims, whether in the Middle East or elsewhere, are merely
objects--the long-suffering victims of the aggressive encroachments of
others. Lacking an internal, autonomous dynamic of its own, their
history is rather a function of their unhappy interaction with the
West, whose obligation it is to make amends. This perspective dominated
the widespread explanation of the 9/11 attacks as only a response to
America's (allegedly) arrogant and self-serving foreign policy,
particularly with respect to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
As we have seen, however, Islamic history has been anything but
reactive. From Muhammad to the Ottomans, the story of Islam has been
the story of the rise and fall of an often astonishing imperial
aggressiveness and, no less important, of never quiescent imperial
dreams. Even as these dreams have repeatedly frustrated any possibility
for the peaceful social and political development of the Arab-Muslim
world, they have given rise to no less repeated fantasies of revenge
and restoration and to murderous efforts to transform fantasy into
fact. If, today, America is reviled in the Muslim world, it is not
because of its specific policies but because, as the preeminent world
power, it blocks the final realization of this same age-old dream of
regaining, in Zawahiri's words, the "lost glory" of the caliphate.
Nor is the vision confined to a tiny extremist fringe. This we saw in
the overwhelming support for the 9/11 attacks throughout the Arab and
Islamic worlds, in the admiring evocations of bin Laden's murderous
acts during the crisis over the Danish cartoons, and in such recent
findings as the poll indicating significant reservoirs of sympathy
among Muslims in Britain for the "feelings and motives" of the suicide
bombers who attacked London last July. In the historical imagination of
many Muslims and Arabs, bin Laden represents nothing short of the new
incarnation of Saladin, defeater of the Crusaders and conqueror of
Jerusalem. In this sense, the House of Islam's war for world mastery is
a traditional, indeed venerable, quest that is far from over.
To the contrary, now that this war has itself met with a so far
determined counterattack by the United States and others, and with a
Western intervention in the heart of the House of Islam, it has
escalated to a new stage of virulence. In many Middle Eastern
countries, Islamist movements, and movements appealing to
traditionalist Muslims, are now jockeying fiercely for positions of
power, both against the Americans and against secular parties. For the
Islamists, the stakes are very high indeed, for if the political elites
of the Middle East and elsewhere were ever to reconcile themselves to
the reality that there is no Arab or Islamic "nation," but only modern
Muslim states with destinies and domestic responsibilities of their
own, the imperialist dream would die.
It is in recognition of this state of affairs that Zawahiri wrote his
now famous letter to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the head of al Qaeda in
Iraq, in July 2005. If, Zawahiri instructed his lieutenant, al Qaeda's
strategy for Iraq and elsewhere were to succeed, it would have to take
into account the growing thirst among many Arabs for democracy and a
normal life, and strive not to alienate popular opinion through such
polarizing deeds as suicide attacks on fellow Muslims. Only by
harnessing popular support, Zawahiri concluded, would it be possible to
come to power by means of democracy itself, thereby to establish
jihadist rule in Iraq, and then to move onward to conquer still larger
and more distant realms and impose the writ of Islam far and wide.
Something of the same logic clearly underlies the carefully plotted
rise of Hamas in the Palestinian Authority, the (temporarily thwarted)
attempt by the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to exploit the demand for
free elections there, and the accession of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran.
Indeed, as reported by Mark MacKinnon in the Toronto Globe & Mail, some
analysts now see a new "axis of Islam" arising in the Middle East,
uniting Hizballah, Hamas, Iran, Syria, the Muslim Brotherhood, elements
of Iraq's Shiites, and others in an anti-American, anti-Israel alliance
backed by Russia.
Whether or not any such structure exists or can be forged, the fact is
that the fuel of Islamic imperialism remains as volatile as ever, and
is very far from having burned itself out. To deny its force is the
height of folly, and to imagine that it can be appeased or deflected is
to play into its hands. Only when it is defeated, and when the faith of
Islam is no longer a tool of Islamic political ambition, will the
inhabitants of Muslim lands, and the rest of the world, be able to look
forward to a future less burdened by Saladins and their gory dreams.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: AID TO ISRAEL MAY BE CANCELLED!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/9126bc5d0bc244ca
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 9 2006 11:21 pm
From: flaviaR@verizon.net
Wow, Mimi must really be getting this loser's goat.
Must be his substitute for sex.
Susan
On 10-Apr-2006, NOT Miriam Cohen but the pathetic coward
liar who is generally known as the phony rev wrote:
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:31:06 +0100
> Organization: West Coast jew flakes
> Message-ID: <earj32thlcshit5itma6iivlbonc1bqoec@4ax.com>
> References: <87ae325t9msv0fbnfs6llleubnliqqn138@4ax.com>
> <fuYZf.4557$Q92.2440@trnddc04>
> <e04h3293uga4p7e5igthg965e9oche6i6b@4ax.com>
> <eR4_f.2593$XI6.1487@trnddc05>
> <72di32p63orrjejv99gl0ddnf17fhf1un8@4ax.com> <eRd_f.7827$WL4.651@trnddc07>
> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Lines: 38
> X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.47.138.198
> NNTP-Posting-Host: mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com
> X-Trace: 10 Apr 2006 06:29:45 +0100, mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com
> Path:
> nwrddc02.gnilink.net!cyclone2.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!tiscali!newsfeed2.ip.tiscali.net!mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com!mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com
> Xref: news.verizon.net soc.culture.israel:1226688 alt.games.diablo:243789
> alt.gossip.royalty:230357
> X-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 01:29:48 EDT (nwrddc02.gnilink.net)
==============================================================================
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "soc.culture.usa"
group.
To post to this group, send email to soc.culture.usa@googlegroups.com or visit
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to soc.culture.usa-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
To change the way you get mail from this group, visit:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/subscribe
To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse@googlegroups.com
==============================================================================
Google Groups: http://groups.google.com